khalids: Messi is a team player and goes extra mile to add bite to the team.....we simultaneously plays central midfield, striker, supporting striker and winger......He is always trieving to push the team forward. .......And Ronaldo is always trying to push the team backwards. Right? Smh
Ronaldo is a team player too....but he is only interested in scoring goals.....he plays as a sticker and hangs around the final half. What is the primary duty of a forward? To try and concede goals I guess . Do you guys watch football with the back of your head? Cos what you said is not even true
In summary On a day when Madrid is not functional, Ronald will most likely be no where to be found When Ronaldo is not functional, madrid will still play well
On a day when Barca is not functional, Messi will still play well and probably win it for them When Messi is not functional, Barca may not play well.
My question, what do you think will be the result if Ronaldo and Messi swap teams
As for the rest of the jargons you put in your paragraph, it is filled with sentiments. Non functional Ko, non directional ni.
branham890: messi is gifted not talented ronaldo is talented
messi plays without stress!!!
He plays without stress yet he breathes so hard during games. You need a refund from your logic teacher. Idiota! Football itself is stress. You guys just chun out rubbish points all in the name of trying to score cheap points.
Ronaldo is the most complete footballer to ever grace the round leather game..... Dual footing Shot power Aerial ball specialist Mad velocity Technical awareness Great height and so on. Haters can take that to the bank.
LordAdam16: You are a LM10 fan, don't make absurd claims.
Messi is not better than Ronaldo. And I'm sick of the talent card or that he is more fun to watch.
All Messi does is glue the ball to his feet and run past players. That's all he does.
And if you want to talk about if that is the most entertaining thing in football. Then you didn't watch Ronaldinho play.
What Ronaldinho, Zizinho, Garrincha did with the ball, Pele, Maradona, and Messi can't fathom. Those people made football an art form.
Messi went to Barca at age 13 and trained at La Masia for at least 7 hours per day for 5 years before his debut. The only thing he has above Xavi and Iniesta is dribbling and goal scoring. In creativity, vision, passing, he is not at the same level as those two unsung heroes.
And that brings me to my main point, the game of football rewards goal scorers and achievers. That's how we measure the best players. Add a bit of skill, dribbling, or flair, and there's a straight ticket to the hall of fame.
If Messi wasn't scoring goals he wouldn't win a Ballon D'or. Ditto for Ronaldo.
Look at Barcelona's squad of 2009-2013? Replace Messi with any world class player from Neymar to Hazard to Dybala and they'd win the exact same number of trophies and Ballon D'ors that Messi won. If that same world class player played for Barcelona from 13 years of age, it'd be just as easy for the player.
In fact, this is the first time you'd be hearing this, but Barcelona didn't need Messi in that time period to win trophies. The proof is in the fact that between 2008 and 2013, the Spanish National Team was without doubt the best team in the world and won every tournament they participated in. Messi was not in that team, but the core of the team was Barcelona.
On the flip side, look at Ronaldo. When he was younger he was great at showboating but wasn't as clinical as he is now. Ronaldo started winning Ballon D'ors when he started achieving and he played in teams (sporting lisbon, manchester united, and real madrid) that were about critical, ruthless finishing than beautiful possession football and he adapted his game appropriately. Messi on the other hand played in a team that is about entertaining, possession football and that became his identity.
Ronaldo does not have to dribble 5 players to score a goal, because that is unnecessary in Madrid's team. In fact from Man U, Sir Alex had already weaned him of less flair and made him concentrate more on his clinical ability. Messi does not even have to dribble 5 players to score a goal, because the entire Barcelona team can pass a ball into the net. Spain won games and tournaments without a player running past multiple players to score or lay a pass.
But when you talk about Ronaldo's clinical ability, there is no word to describe it. The timing of his runs, positioning, goal scoring technique is all down to intelligence and being a smarter player overall. He knows he doesn't have to showboat, he has passed that stage. All his showboating won him 1 Ballon D'or and 1 champions league. His clinical ability and goal scoring got him 3 Ballon D'or's, 3 champions league, 1 Euro cup, and 5 consecutive UEFA golden boots. If you are Ronaldo, what would you do then, more showboating, or just honing your clinical ability and becoming the best finisher in the history of the sport?
There's Isco, Modric, Kroos, Casemiro to do all the passing, all he has to do is be part of the ruthless attack and finish where necessary or make an assist. Even when Barcelona was at their top form, he was outscoring Messi consistently scoring 50 goals per year since 2010, getting Real Madrid to the Semi Finals of the UEFA Champions league, and trailing Barcelona in the league. This was in a time of inconsistency in the Bernabeu (Perez sold Ozil and Di Maria in their prime) and this was without the Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets midfield (the best midfield post-2000) that Messi had.
Just look at the difference. Messi is out there running past Alavez players in a Copa Del Rey final, while Ronaldo is making himself available to make clinical finishes against the best defense of the season. Allegri said that even if they gave Barcelona an extra hour, they still wouldn't have found the back of the net. Ronaldo found it in 20 minutes. Found a second 40 minutes later. Look at his second goal yesterday. Modric did not even look before crossing the ball into the area, but Ronaldo anticipated the run and positioned himself to rattle the mighty BBC defense and slot past the goalkeeper legend, something the entire MSN couldn't do in 120 minutes.
Give me that versus Messi's run and I'll choose Ronaldo's clinical ability everyday.
As at 2012 in the peak of Messi's career on the back of an unbelievable Barcelona team, he had 4 Ballon D'ors to Ronaldo's 1. 3 Champions league to Ronaldo's 1. In 2012, the jury was out already that Messi was miles ahead because despite Ronaldo becoming an accomplished goal scorer and skillful player, he just wasn't getting the results that Messi got.
Fast forward 5 years and Ronaldo has won 3 of the last 4 champion's leagues, and is set to win 4 of the last 5 Ballon D'Ors, and is the top UEFA goal scorer for each of the last 5 years. This is at a time of his career when he should be declining.
The difference between Messi and Ronaldo is evident in this year's UEFA goal tally. Messi had 11 versus Ronaldo's 2 before the knockout stages. Yet Ronaldo outscored Messi. Give me that versus running past players, and I'd choose the former everyday. That's what makes Ronaldo the better player. He doesn't have a peak. He keeps outdoing himself because he doesn't have a competition.
Without Suarez and Xavi, Messi wouldn't have had the treble in '15. And since then it has been downhill for him and his team. And the future is even more bleak for him going forward as Iniesta withers off. I wouldn't write him off, but as long as Ronaldo keeps breaking records and redefining what it means to be the greatest player to have ever played the game, the accolades would keep coming his way.
Messi plays amazing football, but in modern football love goes to the top achievers and goal scorers. After all, goals earn points. Most of the love Messi gets right now is because of what he achieved in 2009-2013. All of the love Ronaldo gets right now is because of what he keeps achieving since 2007.
Notice how I did not even talk about international duty? Or about Ronaldo adapting and achieving phenomenal results in two different leagues?
So, as I said, you are an LM10 fan. Every CR7 fan knows why CR7 is better than Messi. That's the passage of rites to becoming a CR7 fan.
-Lord
Nice schooling. People just generally dislike Ronaldo for no reason. Most people that wanted Juve to win want that all because of Ronaldo but the more the hate, the more his shine. He was interviewed yesterday and he said he wonders what else his critics have to say this time around and asked them to look at the numbers he has stacked up because NUMBERS DON'T LIE. He is just too awesome! Ronaldo has delivered more than *100 of the amount he was bought.
humilitypays: No, Ronaldo is just too lucky, no special talent in his footballing skill...he can't dribble, can't do leg-over, can't skip, etc but can run....he is just lucky that after his teammates finishes the job, he will be at the right place at the right time to kick the ball into the net.
Messi is skillful, talented but not as lucky as Cristiano Ronaldo...Arjen Robben is even more gifted than Cristiano, but luck has never been on his side just like Garreth B.....no wonder the Bible said, the race is not for the swift nor the wise, but of God who showeth mercy....grace is all we need to succeed in life not even talent cos so many talented people are hungry and wasting while some fortunate people are making it big like my uncle Goodluck Jonathan who operates under the power of grace and divine favor!
God is also favoring Cristiano because he is so kind and generous; all his childhood friends are feeding and balling with his wealth...he takes care of them and many more unlike Messi and other stingy people who don't know that God blessed them to bless people around them....God loves kind and generous people but hates prideful, pompous and wicked people, even if they prosper, their success doesn't last like kind/generous people, be kind to your friends and family from today if God has blessed u
This is what you get when idiots are allowed access to the internet.
Sambaby7640: I think it looks foolish to compare ronaldo to messi,d difference is fvcking clear!!,messi is clearly the world best player is soccer history!!,d guy is jxt too good!.The two goal ronaldo scored are just normal goals,first a deflected shot,second a pass and shoot any striker or player can score those goals,but watch my messi against madrid that last goal was superb!! those are the kind of goals that any player to be called world best should be scoring!,wonder goals!! not some cheap stupid goals.I still rate james,neymar,pedro,hazard,mertens,madzukic,ibra even dybala higher than him!!.ronaldo should go and hang his boot!!. Shikena!!
Dem don come again o. I don't think I have the time to school you this morning but just one question for you....Why didn't your Messi score the superb goal(s) you stated when it mattered most? Why could he not just find a way to do a simple tap in? It seems you watch football with the back of your head with this rubbish you typed up there. You people just like foolish and sentimental arguments. A lot of you wanted Madrid to lose all because of Ronaldo but he gave you a permanent shut up! Like he said, numbers don't lie. Just check out his numbers.
So, the match is finally over. What an elderly man sees while sitting, a child cannot see while standing. Some of us are just great analysts and I am going to make reference to some of my past predictions concerning the final based on my analysis and good game reading.
naturalwaves: I don't think Juventus will be able to curtail Madrid in the finals if Madrid makes it to the finals. Madrid will come with full force from the blast of the whistle to the very end. I]n the first leg, I was so surprised when I saw the way Monaco was able to split open Juve's defence only that the players lack adequate experience. If Monaco can do that, then madrid will do even more with the quality of players they have and the experience at that stage. The only person I pity is Buffon because he won't be able to escape at least a goal and he wil most likely cry again. He has said it that the fear of failure has reduced the way he celebrates until he lays his hands on the ultimate trophy. Like someone earlier said, Juve looks like tom tom and Madrid is gonna lick Juve in the finals
naturalwaves: What Monaco has is a group of young , vibrant young men that can run at defences and that does not necessarily imply that they have the best attack. Being able to do all these does not translate to being able to kill off games. The fact that they met their waterloo against Juventus is not enough reasons to state that all teams will. Saying that Italian football is about tactics and logic begs the question because football itself is basically about tactics and logic plus having a standard team that can execute such logic or tactics.
This is where you missed the points. Barcelonia has one of the best attacks in the world in the MSN trio combo but the difference between Barcelonia and Real Madrid is that, Real Madrid does not need a deadly trio to do the damage and the ball does not necessarily need to get to them. The whole Madrid squad is deadly from defence to attack. The midfield is mad and Barcelonia midfield cannot stand such.
The same BBC that were opened so badly in the first leg by Monaco at least 7 times and had to be saved by Buffon? I repeat! If Monaco can do that, then Madrid can do better.
Juventus has the best defence in the league no doubt but I doubt if it will be able to handle Madrid. They were able to handle Barcelonia because of Barceloni's style of play and that is the same reason Chelsea handled them well in those days such that Messi is usually unable to get into the box for a pass talk less of shooting at goal. Madrid plays in a totally different way. Madrid does not have a specific way of attacking. The goals come in random manners in different styles. One thing I am sure Madrid is going to use to frustrate Juve is aerial balls. If you observe the way Madrid plays, the wingers and even Marcelo have mastered this way of floating in perfect balls into the box and all that is needed is just a connection to it by one of the forwards. That is really going to be a handful for Juve.
Not staking a bet but you can refer to this quote after the game.
Well, if you have access to the Juve team, just warn them not to put on the TOM TOM uniform because if they do, Real Madrid is going to lick them
naturalwaves: Yeah, a lack of Pepe in that defence has wrecked havoc but Juventus does not run much at defences randomly, they only wait for a calculated time to hit and that is why I have not really been talking about Madrid's defence. The only way Juventus can defeat Madrid is to make the game extremely slow and pass the ball around but due to the speed of the Madrid team, they are going to rush back at them to retrieve the ball. It is going to be a cracker if Real Madrid makes it to the finals.
naturalwaves: Let me quickly diffuse this point. From 1992 till date which makes a total of 25 years, Italian clubs have won the UEFA Champions league a mere total of 5 times. If your so called logic and tactics is quite superior to other styles, then they would have done better. In fact, out of those 5 occasions, your darling Juventus has managed just 1 in the 1995/1996 season against Ajax . Of what use is the "tactics" that cannot translate to silverware and dominate Europe??
You are contradicting yourself bro. I thought that you said other teams did the playing and Juventus did the scoring against Monaco and Barcelonia in your previous arguments? What that means is that the holding of the ball is not the most important thing. The most important thing is what was done with the ball while being held. Barcelonia lost the game because they were so predictable. Real Madrid is not as predictable as Barcelonia. For example, if I did not see a Barcelonia match and I was told the name of the scorer(s) of a goal, I can state three ways the goal(s) must have be scored. If you tell me Messi scored a goal 35m out from the box, my most likely guess is a " freekick". If you tell me Messi scored from around 25m, then he must have shielded the ball to the left while defenders are following up before curling the ball in to the right hand side of the goal keeper. If you tell me he scored between the 18 to 22m mark, then, he must have exchanged 1-2 with someone and fire a fast shot. If you tell me Ronaldo scored in all these same situations, it is not as predictable as Messi's type of goal in such situations.
They at least showed that the defence was penetratable but lacked the experience to put the ball away. I told you that because the way you described the Juve defence was like nothing ever goes through in it
Historical fallacy. If the results is already known from history, why go through the process then?
seems you do not still get how Madrid plays. Madrid plays purposefully and are direct at play. Madrid can have a short hold of the ball at very high frequencies. They do not leave the ball with the oppoosition for too many minutes. They get the ball for a short time, attack, lose the ball, get it back, attack, lose the ball etc. So, it is not something like the way Chelsea played against Barcelonia in those days while gifting the opposition several minutes of the ball with just few touches in each half. In fact, ball possession is going to be slightly balanced when Juve meets Real.
This is not the first time Ronaldo and co will be winning aerial duels with good and tall defenders. The height is not enough. The question is....what is their jump power? None of those ones you mentioned have a jump power that is close to Ronaldo. Moreover, the likes of Ramos are going to join in corner kicks and that increases the confusion in the box. I see a lot of pushings going down. In fact, Chiellini will most likely be red carded if care is not taken and remmeber to warn your darling Juve not to play the offside trap because it will be detrimental and the referee may miss one or two calls and the next thing you guys do will be to abuse Ronaldo for scoring an offside goal.
. Funny you. They have the speed to pursue if such happens
There is nothing like a knack for losing. No one has that. I just hope this will not be the excuse you will give when Real Madrid licks them like TOM TOM
But baba, what do you think about this Creed Aventus? Have you perceived it before, and would you recommend it? I've bookmarked one at Jumia. I like perfumes that smell sweet and linger... I don't mind wearing the feminine type.
Lol.I have never used it nor see someone use it. All I know is that it will cost you around 145,000 naira.Expensive! I think it will be a very good one.
Are you so daft that you cannot create your own concept apart from trying to copy Emmanuella's style by trying to look for a younger child? Moreover, your cut and join comedy is the most useles comedy I have ever come across.......This is not how to blow. If you want to make it through comedy, you need to sit and use your head and not just throw gabbage at people.
technicallyrich: She has successful packaged her fat,she is looking good for a girlfriend Atleast to taste big hips but if you wife her she will become too fat and lazy. Finally I hope she is not dirty! Considering her tribe no offense
See epistle! Women and insecurities. Who asked you for all these stories?
leofab: you must have a very dark and blank brain.
Your stupidityy spans an infinite loop. You need to have your head examined. If you dedicate the same time and attention you give to the outside of your head in making wigs and curls to what is inside, you will be far better off than this. Jealous girl. Amoebic idiota!
Bad reporting! No pictures, nothing! With the way the writer started the report like an Ss2 student trying to impress, I knew it won't be a very good one and I was not disappointed. Half baked journalists everywhere.
Jakumo: Na this last week I commot for inside Kiri-kiri guest house, come begin dey write for Nairaland again like before.
Before dem release me, I been don promise Oga Warden say lai-lai I nogo mistake go shook Oga Police wife again, no how the woman fine reach.
. The return of the dragon. I think the inmates influenced you. You came back naughty. Dem don tish u bad tin . The police officer is nice though. If na me, u no go efa comot.
Jakumo: Haba, Oga OP, are you suggesting that there may be some fish odor associated with the illustrations you have kindly provided here ?
Inquiring minds want to know.
On a serious note, one should now be concerned about the possibility that some of the single horn-dogs frequenting this discussion forum may derive inspiration from the above series of photographs, and wind up buying fish for the specific purpose of slicing them exactly as shown, and then attempting to attain Nirvana in the privacy of their home, as a desperate alternative to locating a willing girlfriend with whom to share carnal knowledge.
If this doomsday scenario plays out as I suspect it may, the OP may be held liable for any and all injuries sustained to throbbing members so deployed, that get lacerated by fish bones which may not have been properly removed before the self-gratification exercise commenced. I would advise that the OP tenure a legal team specifically to counter any such litigation that may ensue in the coming days and weeks.
You are welcome! The more you solve puzzles, the more you get to know how they appear. The answer to most questions are usually in the question itself. The first thing I usually do is to read in between the lines. If nothing comes up, I will then start considering other possibilities.
Can you see the part I bolded? The person that wrote the note put the clue there. There is a question mark before the name Crimson. The question mark is the clue because one of them is named "MARK" Crimson and that was how I was able to say Mark did it.
Slimzjane: English lanuage was the first subject of the day.i hate my enlish teacher,instead of my english teacher to teach and go he wil say this thing he use to say when i was in ss1. He will begin like this Christine; i know you are now in ss3,I know you are now in ss3, i know you will be dating men old enough to be ur father. I know you will know doggy style,wheel barrow style very well.i know that ur breast is already coming out and all those boys at the corner of ur house will have been taking the automatic feeder of life,don't worry when u get pregnant i will know. Till then. When mr tayo has abuse me finish thay is when he will start teaching and there is no chance because is period is always over.How we use to copy is note is through saturday lesson. The day went by we did ict n agric,the long break was on and not yet over when the principak called all the ss3 Student to introduce how new diction teacher...
This is so so horrible. You need to improve on your writing and communication skills. No one is asking you to write in big grammar and all. Write in simple, basic English. The English teacher may be right. I think you are so distracted with a lot of social media frenzy and other vices he mentioned in your write up. There are so many online classes you can take. Step up and improve.Cheers!
Donald3d: Well I may be wrong and not understand English properly,I am human and everyone is prone to mistakes . But there is a difference between
7 Things You Can Do That Might Save Your Life During An Auto Crash
& 7 Things You Can Do During An Auto Crash That Might Save Your Life
Think about it deeply .
I understand the angle you are coming from and I get you perfectly. What is your thought about replacing "can" with " could"? . I think that will resolve the misinterpretation. If that won't work, the whole heading can be rephrased to convey the actual thoughts of the OP.
annnikky: One snowy night, Sherlock Holmes was in his house sitting by the fire. All of a sudden a snowball came crashing through his window, breaking it. Holmes got up and looked out the window just in time to see three neighborhood kids who were brothers run around a corner. Their names were John Crimson, Mark Crimson and Paul Crimson. The next day Holmes got a note on his door that read “? Crimson. He broke your window.”
Which of the three Crimson brothers should Sherlock Holmes question?
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 1:46pm On Jun 04, 2017
. Of what use is the "tactics" that cannot translate to silverware and dominate Europe?? 
