Jobs/Vacancies › Re: How Being Educated Brought The Biggest Shame Of My Life by naturalwaves: 9:50pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
oweniwe: What about... You have the knowledge & skill... Business ideas too... But no capital or corporate structure to launch it?
Like me.. . I once developed a school results processing portal ... With one big man promising he'll set up the required data processing center. ... But after the portal went live, the big man chickened out and everything crashed.
Or being able to write good books/ scripts... But no capital to produce them? It's useless trying to sell scripts in Nigeria cos even if you manage to sell it, they'll pay you half peanut.
So it is a two way situation... Work first, save ... And start an Enterprise with your savings (If one can't get work to earn and save, one would feel stranded like the o.p...)
.... Not continue to work till you grow grey hairs.
Those casual labor guys who are making money now already had the tools & structures inherited/leased from other folks ... While fresh graduates have nothing to start with Yeah, you are right. Even the likes of Larry Page and his friend( google owners) had to seek for investors Same thing with most IT related stuffs. We can only keep on trying. |
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: How Being Educated Brought The Biggest Shame Of My Life by naturalwaves: 9:05pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
oweniwe: Guy... Principles & knowledge are nothing outside school.
I have a friend with 2.1 in computer science, Masters degree... Knows virtually everything about computers... Lost his job last yr ... Till now has not been able to get another job.
Another friend works with those optic fibre laying companies.... Since January, no contract, no work.
You'll be thinking with all the skills , technical know how & connections, jobs should be pursuing you... But in most cases, it's exactly the opposite.
Even me, if you see my CV, you'll shake. 5 years now, no stable work. I get miffed when I see slow cashier's or dumb customer care officers in banks cos I know I can do the job better.
But who will give me the job?
How will I get the job?
I have applied & done bank trsts many times.... I wonder whether those who pass the tests have two heads.
It is not by knowledge or principles.... Not in Nigeria... Maybe abroad... Everything in this country defies simple logic I feel your pain bro. The first step is merely to seek specific knowledge. There are more things attached, one cannot just stop at that, one must also be able to think outside the box. I have friends who are excellent programmers and companies use them to make millions and pay them peanuts. Most of them can write whatever you want them to code but they lack that ingenuity to think of an idea themselves and create it. Seeking specific knowledge as I stated goes beyond just knowing a scope. But, like you rightly said, everything in Nigeria seems to defy simple logic. It is well! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lizzy Johnson Suleman And Her Children In UK For Vacation (Photos) by naturalwaves: 8:34pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Empress2014: oh sorry, your own education that reflect on you made you think they had those kids through eating in the same plate, Cowbell professor park well abeg. By your logic, those with two children only had sex twice all things being equal. Right? You better come off your high horse and learn. Logic is very important when you communicate with people. Don't you even know that it is possible that a couple with just a child may be having more sex than a couple with 7 children? If your reasoning was not beclouded with your hate for the man, you would have known that the right thing to utter was " oh, this man really love children " . That would have been more appropriate and logical. Read through what you wrote again and think! |
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 8:20pm On Jun 05, 2017*. Modified: 8:47pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Icon79: Bro, like I said, what's killing Cristiano along with all Real Madrid is inferiority complex. Anytime Real wins something, the next thing you'd see is for them to start trolling Messi. But unfortunately for them, Messi doesn't even know that they exist. Leo is playing for history, Cristiano is playing for Messi.
Cristiano today is not even the best player at Real Madrid talkless of being the best player in the world. His game is based on speed and positioning, but today he has lost the speed leaving him only with getting himself in position. The only thing he does on the field these days is to position himself for easy tap ins. gosh, even Sergio Ramos confirmed that Cristiano is not expected to provide any defensive cover!
Yet some folks wanna compare him with Messi, because he score goals. Think about it, Messi is actually an AM now but he still scored more goals than Cristiano. And in addition, all goals are not created equal either. For instance, you can't compare the goals scored by Mandzukic and Casemiro with the two tap ins by Cristiano. Hence, goal for goal, Messi has scored more creative and more enticing goals than Ronaldo. But over and above that, Messi's game is not even dependent on goals ... Leo is complete footballer.
If someone wants to argue that Cristiano is the best goal scorer in the world then we can talk about that but being the best footballer in the world takes a lot more than goal scoring to achieve that honor. Or else, there's no way that Zinadin Zidane would've won the best player in the world because Zidane didn't score a lot of goals.
Again, let me repeat myself, anybody who really want to compare Messi and Cristiano should compare the stats: # of assists; # of dribbles, # of completed passes, # of tackles won, etc. etc. It's only when it comes to Messi vs Cristiano that these morons only think in terms of goals. If football is only judged in terms of goals, how then did Kante win the EPL player of the year? How many goals did he score??
Bizarre people!!!
O pari Sentimental analysis. You are the most delusional Messi fan I have come across in recent times. Ronaldo is playing for Messi but Messi is playing for history yet he beat Messi to credible records this season and even supassed his champions league goals with 7 goals in 3 matches. He is not the best player at Real Madrid talkless of being the best player in the world you said. It is so simple! When he is about to be offered his 5th Balom D'or, go and Orubebe the process.  If you have ever played standard football like some of us, you will know that positioning is one of the greatest football skills and that was what made Ruud Van Niateroy and Alan Crespo really dangerous in their time. You think tapping in the ball is just about placing boots on the ball? What a delusional guy you are. Let me quickly give you an example. You see Ronaldo's second goal or tap in like fools call it against Juve was from a very tight angle. It took Ronaldo less than 2 seconds to run into that space and connect with the ball. Not only did he connect with the ball, he hit it with his boot curved and bent to place it far away from Buffon's reach such that the ball went to the far side of the net and entered through the inner part of the second side of the net. That's superb technique! Even his first goal, you saw the way he positioned his waist to take that shot and spinned it? You think he just fired the shots anyhow? Smh. Please, stop watching football with the back of your head. I am sure you would have preferred Messi do tap ins and Barca win the cup than passing allover without purpose. Whether you like it or not, Ronaldo is more purposeful with the ball and why should he run around when Bale can do that and he is already 32? In the past 7 years, Ronaldo has not scored less than 40 goals a season. Bad belleism is written allover you and I wonder how long it will take you to get over the defeat and the fact that Ronaldo is gonna take his 5th Balon D'or. You have never even given him a clap nor commend him for scoring a goal or for settling nerves in the final game. You are not a true fan of the game. You are an hater and you lot cannot even hide it. You so bittered. Your analysis are tainted with ingratitude for a wonderful player. Well, like Ronaldo said for haters like you........I wonder what the critics will say this time but numbers don't lie. They should check out the numbers. ......and in case you forgot, let me reiterate this into your skull. When the beautiful game of football was invented, it was clearly stated that the aim of the game shall be to put the ball in the opponent's net. Definitions were not given for pass around, tap ins, beautiful football or what have you. Recite this aim every morning when you wake as a regular pill peharps it will help to water down your delusional, sentimental , lopsided arguments and lack of respect for one of the best players that haa ever graced the beautiful game of football and the most complete footballer in history. |
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 7:51pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
tocdee: I follow the Spanish League and I can't understand the comparison. Messi is a class above Ronaldo in terms of all round play. I can say that he's by far the best passer of the ball I've ever seen. He offers more to the game and I'd pay to watch him play over and over again.
By the way, Ronaldo is an awesome footballer but come on guys...he only scores goals, mainly tap ins. When the game of football was invented, it was clearly stated that the aim of the game shall be to put the ball into the opponent's net. You guys should stop all these better passer rubbish. Teams and players have different styles of playing and Ronaldo and Messi do not play the same pattern. Simple! |
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: Common Interview Mistakes That Can Cost You A Job by naturalwaves: 7:33pm On Jun 05, 2017*. Modified: 8:28pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
I have failed aptitute tests before but never an interview. Well, for interviews, I think the key is just to be yourself. Answer questions normally and objectively, do not get afraid of what the next question will look like nor get tensed. Just listen carefully and answer as smartly as you can. No ehm.....ehm...ehm....if you do not know the answer to a question, state it and do not beat about the bush. If you need clarifications, ask! What has worked for me most is the way I look at interviewers/ interviewer into the eyes. A lady interviewer once asked me to please stop looking at her because I made her feel shy rather than make me feel shy. While looking straight into her eyeballs and paying attention as she asked her questions, she could not gather her thoughts together anymore and had to restart the questions  . I got the job! Show confidence , never look down, smile if something amuses you and laugh if a question is funny. Just be yourself. After all, they are not going to flog you. Above all, value yourself, never show desperation, go with the mentality that the company needs you more than you need them and it is theirs to lose if they do not hire you and remember to take a long, slow, deep breathe before you go face the panel.  |
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: How Being Educated Brought The Biggest Shame Of My Life by naturalwaves: 6:59pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Beosten: Thanks, bro. I can't open this NL mail. Please use janetyler84@mail.com Okay. Sent you a mail.already. |
Romance › Re: 25 Vs 45 - Woman Shares Before/after Photos And She Hasn't Aged A Day by naturalwaves: 6:45pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Ginaz: No not in lagos, and most of the offers were from lagos. I get. Lagos is the main thing. There are many opportunities in Lagos due to the population and diversity. Move down now  |
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: How Being Educated Brought The Biggest Shame Of My Life by naturalwaves: 6:38pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
FromZeroToHero: You nailed it. It's not of he that willeth nor of he that runneth but it's God that showeth mercy. You guys keep on repeating that same line over and over again. Success has principles. If you follow the principles, you will be successful and the number one principle of success is to seek specific knowledge. Nigerians are so gullible. You take everything you are given hook line and sinker and quote verses to show that someone lazying around can have an edge over someone that is hardworking. While I am not denying the fact that this is possible, do not attach such successes to someone randomly showing people mercy irrespective of what you do. A not too brilliant student may have a better networking skill or communicate with people more. Nigeria is large, there are a lot of sound guys outside, one needs to come out of one's shell. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Lizzy Johnson Suleman And Her Children In UK For Vacation (Photos) by naturalwaves: 6:01pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Empress2014: Five children , this man like sex truly What you wrote is senseless. How does 5 children equate to liking sex? Does it mean that those with 1 , 2 or less children have them because they do not have as much sex or was it not just a decision? When we comment on public fora, let our education reflect. Let us not reason like illiterates. |
Romance › Re: 25 Vs 45 - Woman Shares Before/after Photos And She Hasn't Aged A Day by naturalwaves: 5:54pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Ginaz: Clients I got were very far off, couldn't go cos of security reasons. Thanks very much for the concern.  I see... Better luck next time. Ain't you in Lagos? |
Romance › Re: 25 Vs 45 - Woman Shares Before/after Photos And She Hasn't Aged A Day by naturalwaves: 5:36pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Ginaz: Oh my God, I feel motivated. I haven't aged much too, still look like my old self. When I get married all I want is more fat on my bum bum, nothing else. Love my small stature biko.  Have you started the nanny job thing? |
Jobs/Vacancies › Re: How Being Educated Brought The Biggest Shame Of My Life by naturalwaves: 5:01pm On Jun 05, 2017*. Modified: 7:41pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Beosten: I grew up in a town where there were four government primary schools. Note that there was nothing like private schools there in those days. I was a popular pupil then, because I was winning inter-school competitions for my school. I was a class captain throughout, and senior prefect.
I repeated this feat in my secondary school, and became almost a household name in a town of over 50 thousands dwellers. My type should have worked harder to earn good grades in the university, and probably get retained. But I was hustling to fund the education, and consequently shared my time between earning money and lectures. So, handouts and photocopies were my learning aids. I graduated with second class lower.
My fame soared when, during my university days, my school principal invited me to teach finalists Mathematics due to dearth of teachers.
Fast forward to 2017, no job is forthcoming. A brother of mine from a different mother now owns a car and an auto-mechanic shop. He was known as a very poor student because people wondered at such discrepancy in IQ of related brothers.
To keep body and soul together, I'm doing a job that requires me rendering a service from door to door everyday. I make at least 25k in this job monthly compared to 13k these proprietors are offering me--their argument is that B.Tech degree is not suitable for teaching. It's a common knowledge that only the uneducated and street urchins do this kind of job I do now.
Now I rendered the service to a couple who happened to know me back in the days. I couldn't recognize them at first. The wife was a classmate of mine with four children while the husband was a senior student in our high school then. The husband recalled how the then English teacher used me to ridicule the SS3 students to which he belonged. They couldn't pronounce 'colonel' correctly. So, he shopped for me in JS1 and I got it right. Living in a city now, I didn't think of it that I could easily run into my contemporaries.
"Is this not Yemi?" he asked rhetorically. "Didn't you proceed to the higher institution? How come you are doing this kind of job?" he continued.
The wife reminded me of her name, and I recognized her.
If 17k is used for feeding, 2k for consumables monthly, how much will I be able to save to start a decent business? Note that responsibilities like parents and siblings in needs make it difficult to have savings.
Venting one's frustrations on keyboard these days is soothing, so I'll advice you be like me. I can relate perfectly well to your story. A university environment does not provide a level playing field for students as everyone have different things bothering them and different sources and types of funding. Lack of fund is one thing that can mar one's performance in the university. Students of this age are even so lucky as they can now use Internet to their full disposal. Having said that , I do not think you need to think so much about grades and all. The only thing a 2.1 or 1st does for you is that it gives you the chance to write more Job tests particularly if you are still less than 26. One thing I will advise is that whatever you know now, make sure you can hold your own anywhere such that if given the slightest opportunity, you will deliver. Moreover, make good friends and network more and keep in touch with people. This is my 3rd job. 2 out of the places I have worked was gotten cos I stay in touch with a couple of friends and whenever anything pops up, they will notify me. My first bank job was not even announced on the pages of newspapers. My second job was gotten by myself. My third was as a result of information from an old friend( unannounced too). At least, better to slug it out with 20 guys for 1 slot than hundreds of thousands. Cheer up! Be happy with your friends, get their contacts, stay in touch , call them from time to time to ask if anything has popped up. Move with people of similar goals and like minds so you get to apply and do other things together. Create a LinkedIn profile and follow people. You should be able to squeeze yourself somewhere tangible. Even here on Nairaland, do not take people for granted cos you never can tell. You can send a PM if you do not mind so we can talk better. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Juventus Vs Real Madrid: UCL Final (1 - 4) On 3rd June 2017 by naturalwaves: 4:03pm On Jun 05, 2017 |
Sambaby7640: am sure you know we humans aren't perfect and that one of the reasons we aren't God.you can't always be on top of form everytime.Moreover,juve defence were in great form against barca,assuming they produced the kind of performance they perform against barca you think madrid would have won or they played barca the way they had played madrid you think barca wouldn't have won. It was not an issue about the form or anything. They were outclassed. I said it before the match that the Juve team cannot handle Madrid because of the way Madrid play. Check page 48 of this thread where I made a fereference to an old post of mine and it ended just as predicted . I will go and copy you in that post so you can read through the analysis way way before the match was even played. When a team plays a better opposition , it always seem like they lost form or not good enough. Check page 48. |
Fashion › Re: What Is Your Best Perfume? by naturalwaves: 10:18pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
MrJames007: Please can you buy the two and send it to me if I send the money. I can't find them in the supermarkets I've checked. My supermarket had to buy a carton of CASABLANCA because of me. I can get it. The English Blazer spray is so scarce too but my sister manages to get it, will ask her. I can get the CASABLANCA. What part of lagos are you? |
Family › Re: Would You Marry A Man Like Your Dad? See Replies Girls Gave by naturalwaves: 9:34pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
Lily4star: Hell No
My mom died when I was 10, after a short while he remarried against the wish of his 5 kids, his focus has been on his new wife , he isn't responsible for my education, I paid for my own waec, and a loving man took care of my schooling till the level I have gotten, Infact I don't want to talk about it. God forbid I end up with such a man, I and my rest siblings contribute to take care and send the last child of the family to school who's only just 15, meanwhile he still works, I pray my enemy doesn't end up with such man, I grew up not understanding a mother's love, and he didn't help for the fatherly love to patch that up either. So sorry dear. What are we going to do about this mail thing now? Are you done with school? |
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 2:33pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
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Celebrities › Re: Huddah Monroe: "Nigerian Men Are Only Good For Enjoyment, Not Marriage" by naturalwaves: 2:25pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
fastgyal: lol. This girl is a LovePeddler. Nigerian men are the best! I'd love my future man and support him. That's good. |
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 2:15pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
branham890: keep insult aside you are a football fan ryt? from what year? I don't know!! YOU MEAN YOU HAVE NOT HEARD the statement "he plays without stress"?? Lol Don't take the insults too seriously though. I know people say" play without stress" but it is wrong. You cannot play football without stress. No one plays football without stress. You can come up with another way of expressing how he plays but saying he plays without stress is a No No. |
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 2:08pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
LordAdam16: LM10 fans are the worst.
Between 2009 and 2012, Messi was touted as the best. Hard to argue against the numbers.
Ronaldo was skillful and getting more goals, but LM10 fans were like Messi was getting results.
Now that the table has changed, LM10 fans no longer care about who is getting results.
When Messi scores a one-touch shot, it is called a magical touch. When CR7 scores same type of shot, it is called a tap-in.
It is annoying.
Messi scores in the el-Clasico despite not scoring in the last five el-Clasicos, LM10 fans say he is better than CR7. CR7 scores two goals in 70 minutes against the best defensive side that MSN couldn't score against in 120 minutes, and to them he is just a poacher.
The double standard is sickening.
Then when they can't keep up, they say Messi is more talented than Ronaldo. When the comparison is like saying Mozart is more talented than Micheal Jackson. Both of them use their talent in different ways. Messi to run past players with a dribble. Ronaldo to skillfully beat and outrun players. Their goal scoring techniques are different, but the end result is the same, the ball hits the back of the net.
The confederations cup is starting later this month. I'm waiting for the excuses to roll in when Ronaldo likely becomes the highest goal scorer in the tournament or if Portugal goes the extra mile and win the tournament.
They can keep the hate coming, CR7 would keep blowing holes into their numerous silly arguments.
-Lord Exactly, the sentiments is sickening. Does it not take great intelligence to position oneself to even do the tap in? Why couldn't Messi do a tap in against Juve? Ronaldo is so intelligent such that theoment Bale arrived, he changed his style a little bit by not running helter skelter leaving that to the younger ones to do as age is no longer on his side. His technical awareness is awesome. Never would a ball go acroos the face of goal and Ronaldo won't be there. See the way he followed up Modric's cross. He ran into that space in less than 2 seconds. Not only did he connect with the ball but spinned it and bent his boot while doing so such that the ball was placed on the inside of the other part of the net way way beyond Buffon's reach. Only a world class player like Ronaldo can do that and the moment he scored that goal, nerves were already settled. His opener was another mad goal with great technique. This dude make big things seem ordinary and all these idiots roaming around would not even commend him for once rather, his efforts are not always enough and anytime they have nothing to say, they come with the regular line of Messi is better than Ronaldo. Messi has only few things he does better than Ronaldo like he being able to manouvre tight spaces and dribble through and that is due to his center of gravity. Nature favours short players in this regard talkless of a midget. Messi also has a better acceleration but Ronaldo has a better velocity. Messi has a slightly better shot accuracy than Ronaldo. Aside these, nothing else......Ronaldo is dual footed, Messi is one legged. Ronaldo has a far better shot power. Ronaldo is better in the air and so on. |
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 1:54pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
branham890: you know ball @ all if someone say ronaldinho plays without stress does it mean he don't sweat during games?? cant u think?? or is ur brain not functioning Not only do you need a refund from your logic teacher, you need one from whoever taught you English as well. If you weren't daft, you would have known that I punctured your point in a witty manner.Play without stress ko, play withouth head ni. You could have as well said he does not even think and use his head when he plays because he is gifted already. |
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 1:46pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
khalids: Messi is a team player and goes extra mile to add bite to the team.....we simultaneously plays central midfield, striker, supporting striker and winger......He is always trieving to push the team forward. .......And Ronaldo is always trying to push the team backwards. Right? Smh
Ronaldo is a team player too....but he is only interested in scoring goals.....he plays as a sticker and hangs around the final half. What is the primary duty of a forward? To try and concede goals I guess . Do you guys watch football with the back of your head? Cos what you said is not even true
In summary On a day when Madrid is not functional, Ronald will most likely be no where to be found When Ronaldo is not functional, madrid will still play well
On a day when Barca is not functional, Messi will still play well and probably win it for them When Messi is not functional, Barca may not play well.
My question, what do you think will be the result if Ronaldo and Messi swap teams As for the rest of the jargons you put in your paragraph, it is filled with sentiments. Non functional Ko, non directional ni. |
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 1:34pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
branham890: messi is gifted not talented ronaldo is talented
messi plays without stress!!! He plays without stress yet he breathes so hard during games. You need a refund from your logic teacher. Idiota! Football itself is stress. You guys just chun out rubbish points all in the name of trying to score cheap points. |
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 1:31pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
Ronaldo is the most complete footballer to ever grace the round leather game..... Dual footing Shot power Aerial ball specialist Mad velocity Technical awareness Great height and so on. Haters can take that to the bank. |
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 1:22pm On Jun 04, 2017 |
LordAdam16: You are a LM10 fan, don't make absurd claims.
Messi is not better than Ronaldo. And I'm sick of the talent card or that he is more fun to watch.
All Messi does is glue the ball to his feet and run past players. That's all he does.
And if you want to talk about if that is the most entertaining thing in football. Then you didn't watch Ronaldinho play.
What Ronaldinho, Zizinho, Garrincha did with the ball, Pele, Maradona, and Messi can't fathom. Those people made football an art form.
Messi went to Barca at age 13 and trained at La Masia for at least 7 hours per day for 5 years before his debut. The only thing he has above Xavi and Iniesta is dribbling and goal scoring. In creativity, vision, passing, he is not at the same level as those two unsung heroes.
And that brings me to my main point, the game of football rewards goal scorers and achievers. That's how we measure the best players. Add a bit of skill, dribbling, or flair, and there's a straight ticket to the hall of fame.
If Messi wasn't scoring goals he wouldn't win a Ballon D'or. Ditto for Ronaldo.
Look at Barcelona's squad of 2009-2013? Replace Messi with any world class player from Neymar to Hazard to Dybala and they'd win the exact same number of trophies and Ballon D'ors that Messi won. If that same world class player played for Barcelona from 13 years of age, it'd be just as easy for the player.
In fact, this is the first time you'd be hearing this, but Barcelona didn't need Messi in that time period to win trophies. The proof is in the fact that between 2008 and 2013, the Spanish National Team was without doubt the best team in the world and won every tournament they participated in. Messi was not in that team, but the core of the team was Barcelona.
On the flip side, look at Ronaldo. When he was younger he was great at showboating but wasn't as clinical as he is now. Ronaldo started winning Ballon D'ors when he started achieving and he played in teams (sporting lisbon, manchester united, and real madrid) that were about critical, ruthless finishing than beautiful possession football and he adapted his game appropriately. Messi on the other hand played in a team that is about entertaining, possession football and that became his identity.
Ronaldo does not have to dribble 5 players to score a goal, because that is unnecessary in Madrid's team. In fact from Man U, Sir Alex had already weaned him of less flair and made him concentrate more on his clinical ability. Messi does not even have to dribble 5 players to score a goal, because the entire Barcelona team can pass a ball into the net. Spain won games and tournaments without a player running past multiple players to score or lay a pass.
But when you talk about Ronaldo's clinical ability, there is no word to describe it. The timing of his runs, positioning, goal scoring technique is all down to intelligence and being a smarter player overall. He knows he doesn't have to showboat, he has passed that stage. All his showboating won him 1 Ballon D'or and 1 champions league. His clinical ability and goal scoring got him 3 Ballon D'or's, 3 champions league, 1 Euro cup, and 5 consecutive UEFA golden boots. If you are Ronaldo, what would you do then, more showboating, or just honing your clinical ability and becoming the best finisher in the history of the sport?
There's Isco, Modric, Kroos, Casemiro to do all the passing, all he has to do is be part of the ruthless attack and finish where necessary or make an assist. Even when Barcelona was at their top form, he was outscoring Messi consistently scoring 50 goals per year since 2010, getting Real Madrid to the Semi Finals of the UEFA Champions league, and trailing Barcelona in the league. This was in a time of inconsistency in the Bernabeu (Perez sold Ozil and Di Maria in their prime) and this was without the Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets midfield (the best midfield post-2000) that Messi had.
Just look at the difference. Messi is out there running past Alavez players in a Copa Del Rey final, while Ronaldo is making himself available to make clinical finishes against the best defense of the season. Allegri said that even if they gave Barcelona an extra hour, they still wouldn't have found the back of the net. Ronaldo found it in 20 minutes. Found a second 40 minutes later. Look at his second goal yesterday. Modric did not even look before crossing the ball into the area, but Ronaldo anticipated the run and positioned himself to rattle the mighty BBC defense and slot past the goalkeeper legend, something the entire MSN couldn't do in 120 minutes.
Give me that versus Messi's run and I'll choose Ronaldo's clinical ability everyday.
As at 2012 in the peak of Messi's career on the back of an unbelievable Barcelona team, he had 4 Ballon D'ors to Ronaldo's 1. 3 Champions league to Ronaldo's 1. In 2012, the jury was out already that Messi was miles ahead because despite Ronaldo becoming an accomplished goal scorer and skillful player, he just wasn't getting the results that Messi got.
Fast forward 5 years and Ronaldo has won 3 of the last 4 champion's leagues, and is set to win 4 of the last 5 Ballon D'Ors, and is the top UEFA goal scorer for each of the last 5 years. This is at a time of his career when he should be declining.
The difference between Messi and Ronaldo is evident in this year's UEFA goal tally. Messi had 11 versus Ronaldo's 2 before the knockout stages. Yet Ronaldo outscored Messi. Give me that versus running past players, and I'd choose the former everyday. That's what makes Ronaldo the better player. He doesn't have a peak. He keeps outdoing himself because he doesn't have a competition.
Without Suarez and Xavi, Messi wouldn't have had the treble in '15. And since then it has been downhill for him and his team. And the future is even more bleak for him going forward as Iniesta withers off. I wouldn't write him off, but as long as Ronaldo keeps breaking records and redefining what it means to be the greatest player to have ever played the game, the accolades would keep coming his way.
Messi plays amazing football, but in modern football love goes to the top achievers and goal scorers. After all, goals earn points. Most of the love Messi gets right now is because of what he achieved in 2009-2013. All of the love Ronaldo gets right now is because of what he keeps achieving since 2007.
Notice how I did not even talk about international duty? Or about Ronaldo adapting and achieving phenomenal results in two different leagues?
So, as I said, you are an LM10 fan. Every CR7 fan knows why CR7 is better than Messi. That's the passage of rites to becoming a CR7 fan.
-Lord Nice schooling. People just generally dislike Ronaldo for no reason. Most people that wanted Juve to win want that all because of Ronaldo but the more the hate, the more his shine. He was interviewed yesterday and he said he wonders what else his critics have to say this time around and asked them to look at the numbers he has stacked up because NUMBERS DON'T LIE. He is just too awesome! Ronaldo has delivered more than *100 of the amount he was bought. |
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 11:22am On Jun 04, 2017 |
humilitypays: No, Ronaldo is just too lucky, no special talent in his footballing skill...he can't dribble, can't do leg-over, can't skip, etc but can run....he is just lucky that after his teammates finishes the job, he will be at the right place at the right time to kick the ball into the net.
Messi is skillful, talented but not as lucky as Cristiano Ronaldo...Arjen Robben is even more gifted than Cristiano, but luck has never been on his side just like Garreth B.....no wonder the Bible said, the race is not for the swift nor the wise, but of God who showeth mercy....grace is all we need to succeed in life not even talent cos so many talented people are hungry and wasting while some fortunate people are making it big like my uncle Goodluck Jonathan who operates under the power of grace and divine favor!
God is also favoring Cristiano because he is so kind and generous; all his childhood friends are feeding and balling with his wealth...he takes care of them and many more unlike Messi and other stingy people who don't know that God blessed them to bless people around them....God loves kind and generous people but hates prideful, pompous and wicked people, even if they prosper, their success doesn't last like kind/generous people, be kind to your friends and family from today if God has blessed u This is what you get when idiots are allowed access to the internet. |
Sports › Re: Messi May Be More Talented But Ronaldo Is Simply A Better Player by naturalwaves: 11:18am On Jun 04, 2017 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Juventus Vs Real Madrid: UCL Final (1 - 4) On 3rd June 2017 by naturalwaves: 11:01am On Jun 04, 2017 |
TrapHedges: respeck !! Lol poor juve
I felt for gigi d most doubt Yeah, felt for him too. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Juventus Vs Real Madrid: UCL Final (1 - 4) On 3rd June 2017 by naturalwaves: 10:27am On Jun 04, 2017 |
Sambaby7640: I think it looks foolish to compare ronaldo to messi,d difference is fvcking clear!!,messi is clearly the world best player is soccer history!!,d guy is jxt too good!.The two goal ronaldo scored are just normal goals,first a deflected shot,second a pass and shoot any striker or player can score those goals,but watch my messi against madrid that last goal was superb!! those are the kind of goals that any player to be called world best should be scoring!,wonder goals!! not some cheap stupid goals.I still rate james,neymar,pedro,hazard,mertens,madzukic,ibra even dybala higher than him!!.ronaldo should go and hang his boot!!. Shikena!! Dem don come again o. I don't think I have the time to school you this morning but just one question for you....Why didn't your Messi score the superb goal(s) you stated when it mattered most? Why could he not just find a way to do a simple tap in? It seems you watch football with the back of your head with this rubbish you typed up there. You people just like foolish and sentimental arguments. A lot of you wanted Madrid to lose all because of Ronaldo but he gave you a permanent shut up! Like he said, numbers don't lie. Just check out his numbers. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Juventus Vs Real Madrid: UCL Final (1 - 4) On 3rd June 2017 by naturalwaves: 10:21am On Jun 04, 2017 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Juventus Vs Real Madrid: UCL Final (1 - 4) On 3rd June 2017 by naturalwaves: 9:53am On Jun 04, 2017 |
deen11: @naturalwaves, I so much love your football analysis. Doff my hat 4u Thanks bro. People read games differently and some great coaches were once mere spectators like us. Who knows tomorrow? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Juventus Vs Real Madrid: UCL Final (1 - 4) On 3rd June 2017 by naturalwaves: 9:51am On Jun 04, 2017 |
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