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DerideGull: What truth are you on about? When did population density of a particular restate factor into overall war strategy? It is true cowards die many times before their actual death. The fear associated with impending disintegration of Nigeria has reduced most Nigerians to the tender of imbecility.

Stop pretending to be a dummy, we know better and understand your antics and sole raison d'etre, i.e. the destruction and disintegration of Nigeria. I was only pointing out a major potential security risk and sure repercusion of actions of people like you, if we allow you to have your way. I'm not going to waste my time instructing you about warfare and strategy - you should have paid attention in Zaria.

solomon111: The rice policy is still in its early stages.
It has not yet achieved its full desired results by a long shot, as it's still too premature to yield very significant progress.
You mentioned something about cooperations and not Nigerians benefiting.
That is absolutely wrong.
Are the coperations not employing Nigerians?
Are those cooperations not improving the GDP of the country?
Are those cooperations not retaining the funds in Nigeria that should have been wasted on foreign imports?
What stops you from starting your cooperation and benefit from this policy instead of wasting monies on foreign visas?
Many of these policies are created by to reduce unemployment which is what the cooperations are doing.

The above is a buch of balderdash. The masses do not need to bear the burden of 100% increase in the price of a staple product such as rice within a year of a policy supposedly designed to favour the masses. So far only corporations owned by the cronies of the policy makers are benefiting from the policy. The government should have put appropriate measures in place to avoid this kind of drastic increase in price.

These policy makers are repeating the same mistake with this Auto policy. Mark my words, they will reverse the tariff increase within a year.

Ngwakwe: See this Alhaji embarrassing himself.

Let me help you with my substantive choice pending confirmation from the outcome of what offers SE receives from Presidential Candidates by Dec 2014

GEJ - President

Nuhu Ribadu - Vice President (hoping he accepts)

How do you expect to recruit Ribadu who has been travelling all over the country with APC? If you expect GEJ/PDP to dump Sambo, then you do not understand your party or Nigerian politics at all. I do like your admission that the GEJ/Sambo team is a failure and that a change is necessary, unfortunately, you are too understandably ashamed to admit that GEJ in addition to Sambo, needs replacement. Ndo o.

solomon111: The ban on rice has led to an increase in the local production,creation of more rice mills around the country(which i'm sure you must have been aware of), and more money for both the farmers and mills.
We're already on the path to self-sufficiency in rice.
The huge amount spent on rice imports should be used on other things.

In my opinion, these policies should primarily benefit the Nigerian people rather than corporations. I'd consider a policy failed, if the beneficiaries are corporations owned by cronies of the usual suspects. In case you do not know as at last year, a bag of good rice sold at N6,500 and N7,500. But because of the policy, a bag of rice now sells between N10,000 and N12,000. You cannot argue that the masses are benefiting from such a policy.

Don't get me wrong, I am in full support of any policy which will give significant incentives to automobile manufacturers - what is senseless is the abrupt increase in tariffs by 250%. It appears that government officials have learnt nothing from the rice policy.

solomon111: Don't be naive.
If it were another country,i would agree with you.
Unfortunately,this's Nigeria with all its inferiority complexes,unpatriotism and an utter disdain and disregard for locally made products.
I can assure you that as long as there's a readily available foreign alternative, Nigerians would never patronize the local manufacturers.
So,just giving the local manufacturers incentives alone will not do much for them as long as their targeted markets has been completly taken over by toyota and co.
The only way we can truely grow indigenous autoindustry in NIGERIA is to go the hard way.

Would you kindly explain to us the effect of last year's ban on importation of rice, so far? If you admit that the results we are seeing now is not what was expected, what would you have changed in the manner of the implementation of that policy.

Ngwakwe: None of the above



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Mallam Nuhu. R. (EFCC pioneer Chairman)

Are you claiminh here that 2] Goodluck Jonathan/Sambo is not your choice? You could have fooled me, buddy.

Oga, this is a Nigerian web site and most of us do not care about the stories you listed. You should have started with the OBJ letter...the growth in the Non Oil sector...on down to defection of PDP members to APC etc etc

solomon111: You sell tokunbo cars,so it's obvious why your views are jaundiced.

It is wrong to say that the OP's views are jaundiced simply because he sells Tokunbo cars. Frankly there is no reason whatsoever to abruptly increase custom duties on import vehicles by 250% because we want to assist an automobile manufacturing industry which is in its infancy. The government can certainly support the industry with various incentives without putting thousands of people out of work abruptly - car dealers, dock workers, customs agents, and various hard working Nigerians.

We were told that customs services lost N700billion due to waivers on imports in 2013 alone, one would think that some of that money could be used to incentivize these automoble manufacturing companies to produce.

The result of this policy would be that, Tokunbo automobiles will continue to in through the republic of Benin, and the customs tariffs will be revised downwards once customs revenues start to fall dramatically.

berem: maybe you should modify your post to avoid more attacks from me. There's nothing interesting in the trash you wrote. Not at all!

Please get lost before the moderators ban you again. I am not responsible for your lack of English comprehension and recognize your freedom of expression, but I suggest you respect yourself. You can have the last word as usual if it turns you on, goodbye.

[quote author=Omo_Tier1]Whilst I agree with the reasoning behind your comments, however, you also recognize that it is also a legitimate expectation that as a citizen you are here to help fill this void by sponsoring a citizens bill in the state house if assembly so that this FOI can be domesticated.

Fashola has always being known to have some concerns on the manner, and nature of the FOI not because He is against accountability, rather in my own opinion, I think He sees it from the prism of law as a bill not thoroughly thought out and several weaknesses that could cause the nation much problems security wise.[/quote]I acknowledge the responsibility of citizens to sponsor bills and some of us have actually worked with our legislators to do just that.

Do you mind shedding some light to the concerns Fashola has on the manner, and nature of the FOI? Are you aware of any bills in the pipeline, whether sponsored by citizens, legislators, of Fashola? There doesn't seem to be any such bill in existence, but i stand corrected.

berem: silly talk from a confirmed aboki! So you desire another civil war targeting Igbo land? Carry your stoopid ONE NIGERIAN shyte and preach it somewhere else. Yeye!

Calm down, go and reread my post, but this time do it without prejudice. I'd assume that your 'confrimed aboki' phrase was not meant to be an insult for now. I don't have the energy to have cat fights with a girl.

The main problem I have with Fashola is his political naivety, inexperience. and apparent lack of understanding of the dynamics of public relations. While it may be technically and legally correct to state that FOI is not binding on states, that should not be the main focus of Fashola's pronouncements because it may appears to the public and even some of his supporters, as if he is against the FOI act.

The declaration that FOI is not binding on states, should have been a reason given for why he, Fashola, has sent a FOI bill to lagos state legislature.

It is quite shameful that on the verge of entering the year 2014, Nigerians are celebrating the upgrade of an Aerodrome as a major Presidential accomplishment. it is equally shameful for so-called enlightened Nigerians to continue to do the same with Highway construction.

You people want to remain in the dark ages, apparently, else you'd demand more than these petty accomplisments from your President. I hope the President will come up with big and great ideas in 2014 and truly give us genuine wins, and things to truly celebrate.

Tony Spike: Bros, please edit your thread. Let us make this thread as educative as possible. I've wanted to start up a thread like this too on google earth images on Nigerian cities. OP, can you please edit your topic to reflect Nigerian cities in order not to allow this thread end up as a junk? Thanks...

Sometimes, the bitter truth must be told to jolt people into their senses. I know truth is bitter, but there it is - post edited nonetheless.

If the purported population density is accurate, then it poses a major security threat to the inhabitants of Nigerian cities. This should be an incentive for the separatists among us to look for a better alternative i.e. ONE NIGERIA. The possiblility of another war should cause great worry to folks because maximum damage is typically the result of droping a single bomb is such a densly populated area. Nuff said.

naijaking1: Easy mallam, easy now.
Because you were unable to stop armed robbers in your area last night doesn't mean you aided them. Very simple logic. Needs no debate.

I don tire for ya case. happy New Year in advance all the same.

naijaking1: Common on Alhaji fraudulent Speaker, not doing enough to stop a crime doesn't equal to sponsoring a crime. Too bad you didn't learn that in law school.

Why are you shamelessly trying to change the subject from Oil theft to Tambuwal? I've never understood this type of lame attempts by some of you highly educated Nigerians to cover up the obvious. Your arguement is essentially a redd herring and also an example of what can only be termed argumentum ad ignorantiam.

Who we have here in naijaking1, in case you don't know, is a whole Harvard Educated Doctor, attempting to sweep some of the most attrocious thefts in the history of Nigeria under the carpet. SMH

taharqa: There was actuali errors with Obamacare. That's exactly why there was problems in its implementation recently, website related errors even. OLODO...

abeg tell them o. This budget of a thing is highly complex and even after several reviews it is still possible to include the millions of naira for non existent boats. Infact the complexity can cause a chair to be mistaken for a hand bag as shown below.


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When the so-called "Christian Northerners", who I don't believe make up a one directional voting block, by the way, ask themselves the political question: "Are we better of today than we were 5 years ago when GEJ became President?" , the answer will be a resounding "No". The answer to this question may guide the way they vote rather than their religion.

solomon111: The last time i checked,LASU is by far the most expensive govt-owned uni in Nigeria.
Don't you think APC should start from there,or are they waiting to get to the centre before doing anything?

Well Lagos state is not the only APC controlled state in Nigeria. Many of the APC state governors have already pledged to implement free, quality education.Take a look at [url=http://saharareporters.com/news-page/apc-governors-implement-free-education-okorocha-confirms-%E2%80%98real-apga%E2%80%99-part-merger]this photograph[/url] taken when the pledge was made last year and note that the Lagos state governor was one of those who made the pledge.

The ball of change is already rolling and I don't believe it can be stopped by negativity this time around.

ImperialYoruba: I agree. However, would it not make more sense to have a model that aids the scaling of enrollment and subsidy by urban classification? In other words, a 100% free education offer in rural area will appeal to parents and government can bundle a "hands on" land management training for future graduates not only trained to be doctors and lawyers but also equipped on soil cultivation, landscaping, forestry, horticulture, fisheries, pasture and other skills abundantly available in the rural towns.

I don’t think we disagree on very much but when we start joining unrelated issues, it would appear so. The purpose of free education, as far as tertiary institutions go is to provide relief for families who have children in our Universities. As you know, the children of our multi-millionaires and billionaires go abroad or to very high priced private universities.

No one is saying that free education should be the only program which the education ministry should focus on. Some of the good points you made above must also be looked into by the education ministry. The details of education programs are not typically found in political platforms. The point of this thread is to put folks on notice that high quality free education is very possible and will be a goal of APC.

Having said that, I agree with you that the issue of population, subsidized education, skills, unemployment, industry and productivity are very important. The current administration has obviously failed when it comes to comprehensive programs to address these issues.

It is very important to stay focused when discussing the free education issue; else we run the risk of introducing logical fallacies which may include changing of the subject. I’d recommend that you open a thread to discuss the issue of population, skills acquisition, unemployment, industry and productivity to hash them out. Great ideas are needed to tackle these issues. Thanks for your contribution to the thread.

^^^^ + 100%

taharqa: I didn't 'dodge' yr questns on that thread. I hvn't been feeling well for days now, so I hvn't been a fan of penning long comments or even opening new threads fos sm days now.... Merry Xmas, guy

My brother, sanu. Hope you get well soon. Merry Xmas and Happy New Year to you too.

ImperialYoruba: Ndu_chuks, I like your opening post and subsequent followups. Deridegull pointed out the risk of higher unemployment, you gave a political response and left the social implications hanging. Let me clarify. Currently we are turning out more people trained and disposed for professional careers than we are for artisans. An unemployed law school graduate is not going to enroll for apprenticeship in a bakery or printing shop. This is not his/her fault, academic indoctrination has produced such social dilemmas.

After mass layoff in investment banking and brokerage post 2008 financial turmoil across America, career workers used to earning six figures adjusted expectations and took whatever they could find earning meagre incomes as attendants in ski resorts, waiting tables in restaurants, baby sitting, cabbie and so on. This is self sufficiency. Nigerians are not indoctrinated socially for self sufficiency, we look forward to a fountain well of subsidy to get us along day by day.

How is APC going to address the social issue of productivity?

I understand your point regarding risk of higher unemployment, but I submit to you that such a risk will be non-existent or no more than what obtains today. Free education does not imply that more students will be admitted to tertiary institutions or that existing tertiary institutions will by default, produce more graduates. The tertiary institutions will continue to produce graduates at the same level as they would if the cost of attending the institutions remained the same. This idea that tertiary institutions will suddenly increase enrollment and produce more graduates implies that cost is the only reason for the number of students in our tertiary institutions – a concept which is fundamentally flawed.

So, making tertiary education free will not in any way exacerbate the social issue of productivity you described above. Free tertiary education will make valuable naira available to families who are struggling to send their children to Universities. Additionally, we should see a dramatic reduction in abuse of our female University students who can be seen in high class hotels in Abuja, Lagos, PH, and other University towns, sadly working as prostitutes to make ends meet.

I am sure the APC is working on a robust program to address the issue of social productivity you mentioned and I expect details of their plans will be revealed as time goes on. I am convinced however, that the cost of attending tertiary institutions has nothing to do with that problem.

BTW, I’m glad that no one seems to have serious issues with free primary and secondary education.

DerideGull: Mr. chucks a.k.a mgbo piafuka gi

Contrary to your beliefs of negativity and deceitfulness, one of the major contributors to societal ills and decadents is lack of employment for school leavers. Until Nigeria has put in place solid plans to grant gainful employment to its school leavers, the talk of free education is a hogwash.

Stop being unimaginative, the new education system will give rive to thousands of job opportunities to the new graduates in the education sector. The rest of them will be gainfully employed by the comprehensive jobs programs which will go hand in hand with the education program.

Back in February, APC Governors pledged to implement free Education, as Okorocha Confirms ‘Real APGA’ as part of the APC merger. It is refreshing to note that these governors are working towards their pledges, the latest being Governor of Kano. Kudos to these APC governors.

For those who have a short memory and have forgotten about this pledge, pleae refresh your memory [url=http://saharareporters.com/news-page/apc-governors-implement-free-education-okorocha-confirms-%E2%80%98real-apga%E2%80%99-part-merger]here[/url]

DerideGull: I do not eat sausage talk less muffin but the it is an American adage. Again, we must strive to give qualitative education to our people and equally provide arena for them to practice the educational know-how. American also say "all chiefs but no Indians". For once in your miserable life, I suggest you disassociate your ugly behind from primordial concepts.

Mr. Gull, mgbo piafuka gi .... (choice spots withn your anatomy), for being so negative and intentionally deceitful simply because you want your own Abriba nation.

solomon111: Any political office holder or party that promises free education at all levels is an enemy of Nigeria's advancement.
Education is not and cannever be free at all levels,if you want quality.
Anybody that campaigns with that has already proven himself unsuited for the post.

Once again, it is sad for me to state that most of you are quite ignorant of how blessed Nigeria is, in both natural and human resources. It is this ignorance that makes well meaning people like you to believe that it is not possible to offer quality education, freely to Nigerians.

I challenge you to do a small research on how much money has been stolen by government officials in 2013 alone and limit your research to proven thefts only (news paper accounts or court records could be used). Then add the amount of crude oil stolen in the same year, then add the over N700 billion lost as a result of import waivers issued by the ministry of finance. You'll soon find out that if only 10% of the sum is channeled properly, there will be enough to provide the said quality education freely to Nigerians.

A regime change will make this obvious soon enough. Folks, we are on the verge of the greatest level of development ever experienced in our history and the good news is that providence is on the side of Nigerians.

Our dear Gamji was one of the greatest Nigerians ever! RIP Sir.

DerideGull: It is a mute case to talk about sausage without muffin, pal. After seeing the dilapidated conditions of schools in Nigeria, I can not consciously employ any product from such educational system.

Your reaction is not unexpected. People like you are quite ignorant of the amount of resources we have and the level of squandering of those resources which currently takes place. Your likes will be shown how to manage those resources and take the country to the next level of development once regime change has occured. Stay tuned.

You eat sausage with muffin? Yuk!