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atlwireles: why your insults

You think its an insult to be born in Kaduna or Zungeru? Who has been insulted and how? If you seek to derail the thread with a fight, you will not be obliged.

It is a well known secret that any Igbo leader of repute in the past 50 years, from Ikemba Ojukwu, Zik, Okorocha, to Pat Utomi, have deep roots in the North, and would be Northerners under normal circumstances. Pat Utomi himself was born in Kaduna, just as Ojukwu was born in Zungeru.

Pat Utomi has proven that he indeed learnt about leadership from the right environment. He had his primary education at St. Thomas, Kano 1960-62; Our Lady of Fatima, Gusau 1962-1966; where his character was well formed.

We need leaders like this to take over governance all over the country, regardless of which party they belong to. I believe the people of Delta state are not as unsophisticated as those who allowed Soludo to be denied the right to contest in the last Anambra election.

OAM4J: ^Who else knows the rules of Havard students better than a havard student himself. You can afford to break the rules anonymously online na, who go arrest you?

I would have used my scooby doo gif to laugh at the above; but I believe what you are saying can be succinctly sumarized by the animated
graphic below:



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Thanks for the laughs.

OAM4J: ^Now am also becoming inclined to believe you are Aminu Gamawa/Zangiwa the lawyer and the harvard PhD student

That was a good one.

Please note however, that Harvard students do not do copy copy from wikipedia, my jurisprudence bit up there was lifted from here ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest . Lets hope you wouldn't then accuse me of making that entry in wiki.

In the USA, a citizen's arrest is an arrest made by a person who is not acting as a sworn law-enforcement official. In common law jurisdictions, the practice dates back to medieval England and the English common law, in which sheriffs encouraged ordinary citizens to help apprehend law breakers.

By virtue of my position as a Politics section regular forumite, though without the authority to ban or hide posts, I hereby issue a citizen's 1 day ban to OAM4J and Oga at the top, for going arround a locked thread and having a conversation while excluding the rest of us! As a matter of fact, I make that a 3-day ban, that will fix them.

If you people ban me for issuing my own ban, I have reserved 1 or 2 choice phrases in Igbo for an appropriate response. One phrase begins with with Mgbo piaf......

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El-Rufai no go kill person with laughter.


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The OP's definition of internally displaced persons (IDP) is fraudulent and smacks of hateful racism. The correct definition is "Persons who have fled their homes and villages because of persecution, civil strife, food insecurity or other emergency but remain within their country of origin". The keyword here is emergency! The Igbo people who live outside of the SE like their Yoruba counterparts who do not live in the SW, did not move due to any emergency as a matter of course.

The OP reminds me of some people from Osun or Oyo state who claim to be Lagosians and cannot accept the fact that most of Lagos is probably owned by non Lagosians and by primarily Igbos. Lets face facts here.

Clown.


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Here is the guy's article on the same subject Copied Expose

Aminu Gamawa is supposedly a lawyer and a harvard PhD student.

Here's a potentential profile of the guy, at the bottom of this page: Source

na wa o, breeze don dey blow.

jmaine: Ndu,you don't need vague posts to play the ostrich.

The OP presented an email with the sender email clearly bloated out, yet he claimed it was his which was a lie.

You don't need to feign stubbornness in the face of simple factual truth.

Do well to prove to me the screen shot i presented is a lie

Bingo!!!! You finally got it. I cannot prove that your screen shot is a lie or whether it is truthful, just as you cannot prove that the OP's screen shot is a lie or is truthful. While you chose to believe that the Op's screen shot is a lie, I am willing to give the OP, the benefit of the doubt.

No one here, including you, has proved with 100% certainty that the OP's claim is false. I know it is difficult to admit error of judgement, so I'll let you have the last word and use the post to satisfy yourself.

Happy New Year to you.

jmaine: Mr Ndu, see a Gmail screen shot revealing a mail from IrokoTV and tell us why we shouldn't insist the OP lied due to his inconsistencies.

Please note the Iroko mail address before "me" which is the OP.

You may be chasing your tail here. The graphic you posted does not prove anything. You are yet to convince me that the OP made a fraudulent claim. Besides, please use the OP's graphics to prove your point.

You need to do better than this to convince me. So far, you have raised doubts based on assumptions, but the doubts do not rise to rendering the OP's claims false or fraudulent. Your assumptions must first be proved to be 100% accurate, but I'm sorry to say that I cannot honestly claim 100% accuracy of your assumptions neither can I claim 100% that the OP is being truthful. As I stated, I'm willing to err on the side of caution.

jmaine: The "me" is simply the OP, while the sender ID is missing. How do i break my point further again .

Even more so when the OP in a trance confession stated he deleted his email which happened to be the senders email.

Hope you get it ?.

(1)Both the sender's email and the OP's email addresses are not visible.
(2)Op stated that he deleted his email, but you still see "me" in lieu of his email.
(3)The OP provided an IP address which was traced to a server located in the USA

Based on the above items, you concluded that the OP's claim is 100% fraudulent and that he never received a threat via email.

I don't believe I can reach the same conclusion you did, if I am to be intellectually honest with myself, but to each his own.

jmaine: The OP confidently told us he deleted his email from the screenshot which turned out to be the sender's mail address.
So the OP actually confessed.

From the screen shot I saw, both the sender's email address and the recepient's email address are not visible, unless "me" after the "To" field is what you are saying is the OP's email address.

If this is what you based your conclusions that the email is fraudulent on, then I'd say it is not sufficient to reach the conclusion you reached. Can you post the screen shot showing the OP's visible email address? i am yet to see that, but will acknowledge that the OP is full of it, if you show me any evidence of the visibility of the Op's email address.

Lets try not to be petty here: the fact that the OP said he deleted his email and you see "me" instead of his email address, does not rise to the level of confessing to any lies. If instead of one's email address, you see "me", then one's email address is as good as being deleted. You need to do better than this to convince me that the OP did not receive the threat via email.

collynzo2: I know more about IP addresses and network systems in general than you or anyone in your generation will ever know.
I ask again, what about the screen shots?

The screen shot I saw does not prove conclusively that an email was not sent to the OP. As you know screen shots can be manipulated to protect the people involved. I'd rather give the guy the benefit of the doubt, just in case he was actually threatened.

If we assume that the email was sent, what I am saying is that the IP address provided does not prove that the email was not sent from Lagos. Nothing more.

None of you guys have proved with 100% certainty that the email threat was not sent. The screenshot which I have seen, does not show that. You can post the screen shot which proves with 100% certainty that the said email is fraudulent - I must have missed it.

jmaine: The OP has abandoned his thread cos he couldn't synthesize more lies, while his e-Muppets are running from pillar to post defending the filth the OP left behind.

Impeccable fools . . . .

Just suppose that the OP is correct and truthful, in that he was threatened.................Everyone has to live with his conscience. I don't believe that you are 100% certain that he was not threatened. In a case like this, it is prudent to err on the side of caution.

collynzo2: What about the email screen shot?
You guys are pathetic in your attempt to defend a blatant fraud.

Oga, this IP discussion is over your pay grade. Screen shots can be edited and we'll never be 100% certain on that, but I'd rather err on the side of caution. As Musiwa would say: Go school.

You people seem to be uninformed. The only thing you can deduce from the IP address is that the email was sent via a server which is located in the USA. It takes another layer of investigation to narrow its source to a country.

Pray tell, when you are in Lagos, are you not able to connect remotely to a computer which is located in the USA and send an email from that computer? mumus.

Honestly, GEJ needs to fire all the people involved in putting this strategic document together, immediately, and truly shake up his inner circle. This good man and decent individual, GEJ, is surrounded by the most incompetent handlers one can imagine.

GEJ needs to show some very visible strengths now. He cannot afford to keep projecting a lilly livered image to the whole world. SMH

tokunboh: Do you think publishing a lie even in heaven will make it become the truth? The era of silence is gone, none of these lies shall be allowed to fly without being rebutted

Lets hope GEJ and PDP does not take it seriously. It will only fascilitate their exit form Aso rock. BTW here's another article by Aminu, read for your pleasure.

Note that most of the items listed were spot on.

Speculation on possible post-merger scenarios by Dr. Aminu Gamawa

1.PDP will start describing APC as party of tribal and religious bigots.
2.PDP will try to present APC as Muslim party and PDP as the true national party (PDP will target Northern Christians for votes, CAN may be used again)
3.PDP will use the EFCC and Security to harass and blackmail the G7 & potential APC candidates.
4.PDP will use huge amount of money to infiltrate APC and to buy support from the North.
5.Traditional and religious leaders will receive large amount of money to support PDP or to keep quite.
6.APC will takeover control of the National Assembly.
7.APC will use the media to expose corruption & incompetence in the PDP government.
8.APC will make an attempt to impeach president Jonathan or frustrate his government
9.The unrest in the Niger Delta may resurface. Groups will emerge demanding for Nigeria to be divided.
10.APC will shock many people by their choice of presidential & vice presidential candidates. Some dissatisfied members will leave the party.
11.PDM will become strong and many disgruntled APC & PDP members will move to join PDM.
12.PDP & APC will try to form an alliance with PDM.
13.2015 elections will be massively rigged by all the parties.

It is a familiar script. God knows better

Source

For those of you who are not taking cramjones serioudly, please note that his exposé has been published in a national newspaper by a named author. Aminu, keep them coming. The fat lady is in the performing her vocal exercise now and will sing very soon.


The Publication

Nwanne m, I believe it is safe to conclude that a new NL Star is born!! His handle is Cramjones.

Unlike his predecessors such as Beaf and the more recent pundits, the Mods will find it very difficult to ban this guy or hide his posts. The guy follows rules and is polished. He does not need to beg or blackmail the Mods to move his threads to the FP for traffic - his threads are simply magnetic by nature. He is almost as efficient as ndu_chucks.

DerideGull: The above tabulated scenario reminds me the deceitful undertakings by Awolowo, Akintola and Rosiji in yesteryears.

Mr. Gull, what exactly are you trying to say here? One would have thought you'd be comparing the tabulated scenarios with similar once employed by past political parties other than individuals.

donphilopus: Look at this certified nitwit calling his masters idiiot.

When dullards are outsmarted, outwitted, outshined, they resort to their familiar tool; name calling. The cat is out of the bag now, desperation has set in already.

ijaw citizen: Hey!
That isn't what I meant, stop quoting me out of context.

I only marvel at the cunning way the OP/writer is trying to create a kinda "solid empire" for the Yorubas with lots of stolen resourceful lands -even from Igbos of Delta, but proposed the creation of the same recipe for disaster which crumbled the Igbo empire quest in 1966.

I also frown at the total disregard for certain ethnic nationalities esp the Ijaws who would be torn apart into two countries all in the name of "Natural" sepation features. I guess he is having such a short sighted definition of "natural" or simply don't know what is "natural".

I really don't care if Nigeria remains one or not, all I care about is the wellbeing and prosperoty of the Ijaw people and all her neighbours and friends.

Let them keep plotting, the Ijaw nation is ready for any eventuality, and if need be-bring this fccking country to a stop.

Egbesu Kuro Emi,
Tamuno Kuro Wo momo Emi.

If you are not for one Nigeria, what would your 'Ijaw Nation' look like and what areas would ou prefer that it includes?

One has to admire the methods of Cramjones in informing his audience as he tries to gain support for his party, APC. His method is an example of how to utilize a forum such as this, to the benefit of your political party.

In another display of cluelessness and incompetence, GEJ and the PDP, employ low IQ jobbers, whiners, cry babies, and others who claim to be sincere, but whose posts are filled with distortions and outright lies. GEJ needs to replace quite a few people if he hopes to return to Aso Rock in 2015.

I dey gbadun this Cramjones of a guy. Cramjones, pray tell, would you happen to be affiliated with one James Carville of the USA or is he one of your advisers?

GEJ can still redeem himself but it will take some very radical steps such as getting rid of the ministers and his advisers who have lost the support and trust of the Nigerian people.

ijaw citizen: The first most humorous joke of the new year!

Indeed. Nigeria shall remain one.

Primate Funkymallam, items 3, 4, 5, 6, and 10 must come to pass if PDP wants to restore its past glory. If another primate predicts that the predictions will not come to pass, and he is indeed correct; then I say bye bye PDP and GEJ. As you know, with life there is hope.

Ngwakwe: And you expect us to conclude the money was paid into GEJ's foreign account?

The discrepancies are between two or three institutions of the government bordering on the reconciliation of their account and they have gone to reconcile it and are expected to report back to the National Assembly and the President within a given timeframe.

What should the President do within this timeframe?

The unremitted $12 billion was not due to any accounting issue or account reconciliation. The money was not remitted and has not yet been remitted as it should have, by law. Accounting reconciliation has never and will never be an acceptable defense of breaking the law.

What should the President do within the timeframe? How about making an example of one or two of the officials who failed to remit $12billion as required by law?

Ngwakwe: Why should it?

Remember, the Amalgamation has expired and we need Peace, Love, Unity and Progress to get One Nigeria back and it's only possible on one condition.

Every Nigerian eligible to vote in any State is an "Indigene by Nigerian definition" to that State.

We must all integrate into one or dissolve into component Protectorates as before Amalgamation.

For once I agree with Ngwakwe. There is no reason why a person born and raised in a state should not enjoy the same rights of every other 'indigene' of the state.

In the USA for example, if you live in a state for 6 months, you become a 'resident' of that state. 6 months residency requirement cannot work for us. We may need to start with

(1)If you are born and raised in a state, then you automatically become an indigene. Being raised in the state is important, else people may start trooping to more successful states to give birth. I'd add living in the state until say, 16years old to the requirement of being born there.

(2)If you reside in a state for 10 years, you would have the option of discarding your original state of origin for your state of residence.

We have to adopt practical solutions to our unique system and culture.