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Did you say comparison between BH and MEND is a farce? If so, you may want to show some responsibility by rewriting your first post and remove MEND from every 'major' point you are supposedly making. Ngwuanu, leave MEND out of and the real reason why you reject amnesty for BH. |
[quote author=Sam_Ikenna](1)Let me ask you ndu_chuks, do you agree we should pay members of Boko haram as part of the amnesty package? (2)Do you agree we should pardon Okah, Rev King? (3)Do you agree we should give amnesty to all Nigerian prisoners? Be waiting for your response.[/quote]Answers: (1)If monetary compensation is deemed necessary as an incentive, in a comprehensive rehabilitation program, by the committee of experts looking into the issue, I will not have any problem with it. I oppose to blanket payment for amnestying anyone. (2)What kind of question is this, Okah was pardoned along with MEND we do not have the authority or power to pardon him f or being convicted in South Africa. As far as Rev. King is concerned, the President can pardon him if he wishes, sebi he pardoned Alams. (3)This is a dumb question. |
naptu2: 1) This is ancient news (Kashim Shettima, governor electThank you for noticing the error as well. The story is deceptive and is actually 2 years old. I'm sure it was placed on the homepage in error. The same story was reported in May 2011 in Allafrica.com It should be removed from the Homepage immediately because of the appearance that NL is helping to spread falsehood. |
This is an appeal to the powers that be to remove this Vanguard story: Boko Haram Rejects Amnesty Offer from the NL Homepage. The story is deceptive and actually 2 years old. I'm sure it was placed on the homepage in error. The same story was reported in May 2011 in Allafrica.com Thanks |
Can't you minority Igbo people find someone/any group you can get along with? I say minority Igbo people because Igbos with your mind set are in the minority. You have no love for our offe mmanu brothers from the SW, lead by the snake himself, the great Ojuyobo(I'm beginning to like that guy), no love for Ijaws, you are now wishing that the middlebelters had been annihilated, you have no love for Hausa/Fulani people, you even hate progressives who are full blooded Igbos!! Why don't you all just move out of Nigeria and those of you who are already out, stay the heck out of our business. Nonsense!! P.S. All nicknames in my posts taken in context, are 100% terms of endearment, so let nobody get it twisted. |
@OP,sir, your epistle is a few years too late. Why did you not ask this question before the amnesty given to MEND and the youths of SS region? The truth of the matter is that the amnesty program which was implemented in the SS, in favour of MEND, is a great success, by any measure. It significantly reduced the killings, kidnappings, and negative economic impacts. It is time to support the President in his latest effort at resolving the Boko Haram issue. I fully expect your support. |
nagoma: So Igbos have now convinced people that BH are after them? They Igbos have been trying to draw attention to themselves when we know that BH are terrorists are murderers but have not made Igbo a specific target. Shekau in his various addresses through U Tube doest seem to be aware that Igbos exist -he has never mentioned them as enemies.Thank you for this post! These people are perpetual victims and until they stop wearing that shoe, they will continue to wallow in self destructive behaviour and utterances. They are so delusional that they are unable to see that the talked-about amnesty will cause the reduction in killings of Nigerians, including their own people. The amnesty, if implemented appropriately will isolate the real BH and the JTF can concentrate on defeating them promptly. These indiscriminate killing of Nigerians by lawless elements of JTF and their commanders must stop now. |
Onlytruth: Nwanne this thread is really unnecessary.You are a bigger fool than I thought. There are true Igbos, then there bigoted ones. Rear Admiral Dele Joseph Ezeoba who like Zik and possibly Okorocha, was born in Jos, Plateau State although he hails from Ibusa in Oshimili- North Local Government Area of Delta State, is absolutely NOT one of your delusional biafra obsessed South Southerner, not to talk of Igbo. He is the most detribalized Chief who believes in one Nigeria and will defend the concept to death. Look for biafra champions elsewhere, mumu |
[quote author=Sam_Ikenna]We all know the root of the matter is that North East and North West have a different way of life. They prefer a religious/sharia system that, I also agree, will work well for them. We need to back off and let them have their system and autonomy and, if necessary, their own republic. Someone should tell me how amnesty or payment to Boko haram would stop this legal human yearning. The only thing I see is - bunch of 16 - 35 yr olds marrying multiple wives and passing the kids off to the rest of us. Need I add that in the next 16 years those kids will rise up and kill us more and then boom! we pay them - they marry more wives - make more babies - pass them off to our children - and in the next 16 yrs our children's children will get killed. GIVE THE NORTH WHAT THEY WANT AND DRAW THE LINE LIKE INDIA AND PAKISTAN! Lets stop this cyclical foolishness![/quote]Oga, objectivity is always superior to emotionalism in these matters. Find another way to promote your biafra and stop hiding under the skirt of the notion that the North should be allowed to secede. I know that most of you guys are lawless so I remind you that things don't quite work out that way in a constitutional democracy. |
naptu2: So, do you see why I said we are getting ahead of ourselves? If you check my first post, you'll see that I stated that one of the conditions for amnesty should be that people who have been involved in murder should not get amnesty. On this thread I've read about "paying public funds to terrorists", "pardoning mass murderers", where do you guys get these things from? A committee has just been formed to consider the possibility of granting an amnesty and the modalities for granting such amnesty. Have you guys been to the future to see what the conditions will be?You are doing a great job of showing these people how to be objective and disallow bigotry from beclouding their judgement. People like Eze Onlytruth live in a constant delusional state. I have been trying for years to help him through this problem but his ailment appears to be pathological, hence I have not been very successful to date. pcnwamadi: 1. A ministry of Northern affairs must be established like the Niger Delta Ministry.Most of the thoughts above are well reasoned, |
[quote author=Sam_Ikenna]I feel pained to state that Nigeria is a waste of God's green earth. We have money to pay murderers yet we dont educate the almajiris, neither do we arrest their fathers for creating the monumental trouble for responsible fathers. We dont even discuss closing almajiri Point of correction ,there are millions of decent and peace loving people who are fathers to the marginalized and abused people you referenced above, but these fathers do not deserve any blame whatsoever. It is narrow minded to paint the fathers of the region with such a broad brush. The "fathers" you referenced above are a very few people who have had the opportunity to rule but were so selfish that self enrichment became more important than developing the region and its resources including human resources. Those few fathers belong in jail and some should face the firing squad under saner conditions. I submit to you however that for each "father" in your post above, there exists or existed, hundreds of thousands of co conspirators from the South,including your own region. So for all practical purposes, you people are actually more responsible for the demise of the victims up North. Lets hope you all repent soon enough, no one hurts Gods children and gets away scott free perpetually. I will read the rest of your post later. |
@Op, have you considered giving your wife and yourself the best gift of all and effectively suspending your problem for at least 9 months? get her pregnant Olodo. That will actually turn you into a man as well. You appear still be a little boy. ![]() |
Onlytruth: Short of an IMMEDIATE serious denial from the presidency over this ill-advised move, the president may have sealed his name in history.Wow Eze Gburugburu, you must be a prophet. Here's is a 7-page denial. Hope you are happy now and please don't be lazy, read every page. dolo |
Continued Speaking further, he said the challenge is to make a "conditional offer to those who are ready to step forward to renounce terrorism and embrace peace. If they have a reasonable number of persons to come forward, they can use that to reach out to other persons who are engaged in this act of terrorism that threatens our corporate existence as a nation. I think it is belated but I also think it is a good development because we are trying to find solution to these problems and to stop the daily loss of lives going on in the country." |
naptu2: These kinds of amnesty deals, although they are difficult, are not strange or unique to Nigeria.Please educate these people, jare. |
It is very disappointing that our people from the SE who bear the brunt of the BH bombings are not in support of GEJ on this amnesty affair. The senior members of nairaland from the SE have mainly expressed outrage despite the fact that a well implemented amnesty program will reduce violence against their very own brothers and sisters who live up North. All of una don fall my hand - a bunch of selfish and bigoted buffoons, starting from Eze Onlytruth to PointB who has since gone into hiding. Dan daudu kawai. |
Reacting to the planned amnesty for Boko Haram, youths in the North said that President Jonathan had finally come out boldly as a Nigerian President and not an Ijaw leader by heeding strident calls to grant amnesty to the sect members. |
Meanwhile, President Jonathan's new resolve to grant amnesty to Boko Haram members has elicited mixed reactions across the country. |
Very Good Lagos — After several months of buck passing between the Presidency and stakeholders in the north on the emergence of Boko Haram Islamic sect and desirability of granting amnesty to its members, the Federal government, yesterday, took a major step towards granting them amnesty as it set up a committee to look at the feasibility or otherwise of the programme. |
Policewoman: So you think. But if i may ask, is the north (by the collaboration of d northern heads of states) not already more advantaged financially than the rest of the country? Don't they have more states and lgas? Kano alone has 44 LGAs compared to bayelsa with just 8. What hav their governors done so far with all the money at their disposal? Do u now think pumping more trillions will make any difference since they have already rejected Western Education in its entirety?nwanyi maramma, you need to recognize the distinction between the the Northern elite including past rulers, majority of who belong in jail along with their southern co conspirators, and the ordinary peace loving Northerners. You should agree with me that most governors and PDP governors in particular, are thieves who belong in jail as well. There is so much injustice taking place in Nigeria against people of every major ethnic group. The perpetrators of these crimes will continue to do so, as long as we choose not to oppose them as the Egyptians and Libyans have done. |
Policewoman: Jonathan is not dull enough to remove his only insurance against the northern troublemakers.Our trouble in this country is truly rooted in extreme tribalism. A lot of people think that the Military Chiefs who are not from the SE or SS, are by definition, not pro GEJ or will by default be unsupportive of GEJ. That is not really true. Unless they believe that GEJ is truly clueless and dumb, the Chiefs would have to support his decisions on this most sensitive issue of BH 100%. The Army Chief (we know who) who is expressing the anger in question is not exactly acting like GEJ's insurance at this moment. Policewoman: GEJ by accepting to grant amnesty to the Islamists, is playing to the Northern script which includes making sure he doesn't stay in aso rock beyond 2015. As their plan A of insurgency seemed to be failing, they have switched to plan B which GEJ has bought hook, line and sinker. This plan B includes making him unpopular in the only 2 regions faithful to him, the SS and SE. I'm afraid they have succeeded. Now putting a northerner or a Yoruba stooge in aso rock come 2015 is almost sealed and delivered.If GEJ pours billions into the region and we see real development and the uplifting of the spirits of the youths in the Northern region, improved employment, and stability, because of the amnesty, GEJ will be returned to Aso rock in a landslide victory. |
naptu2: In public, orders are orders. Behind the scenes, orders could lead to reactions. Listen to General Danjuma talk about how he had to calm the troops after Ifeajuna's mutiny and after Gowon announced that he would no longer hand over power in 1975. Even Obasanjo, as civilian president, had to tour formations to speak with junior soldiers. In public, orders are orders. Behind the scenes, orders could lead to reactions.My brother, orders are always orders o. What General Danjuma did was nothing special, he did his job! That's why he is a General. A General who cannot foresee reactions to upcoming orders and take steps to manage the situation, should be relieved of his position immediately. The Chiefs need to show restraints and stop leaking their disagreements with GEJ to journalists, so that they do not fuel the fire of mutiny. |
Tusky44: You are a foolish mallam. Come and sack him nau. Dirty mallamEgbe ndi Bornu piafuka gi isi. |
naptu2: The problem is not with the military chiefs, neither is it about "security budget". These guys will have to go to the barracks and explain the amnesty deal to the troops. Historically, making these kinds of announcements have never been easy. You are telling a soldier, who has lost his best friend and encountered hardship during operations, to forget about all that and protect former boko haram members, because they are now innocent citizens of Nigeria. It could lead to a mutiny if it's not handled properly.I don't fully agree that the Chiefs have to go to the barrack and explain the amnesty deal. The only explanation necessay is that, the Commander-In-Chief has ordered us to ........end of story. People who have never been in the army or any other service do not appreciate what Orders mean. When you are ordered, you follow those orders, period. It is the responsibility of the Chiefs to make sure that they know potential mutineers and control them effectively. BTW: It is not easy to carry out mutiny in Nigeria today, thanks to OBJ. |
[quote author=Sam_Ikenna]We're not the ones killing other people to be in Aso rock, or are we? What are we paying exactly - dude North East and North West literacy rate is probably the worst in the world, dont you think u should worry about that? Aburi or no Aburi, we've made it, and I might add, way better than the winners of the so-called Biafran/Nigerian war. ndu_chuks, you should be ashamed of making careless comments. What are we paying for?[/quote]nwanne m, you are exhibiting the effeminate emotionalism your Eze alluded to in one of his posts. If you want to bury your head in the sand and continue to believe that Igbos are NOT still paying for the civil war, that's your wahala. Please watch how you interpret what I write before you do yourself and others a disservice. I'd prefer that you ask for clarifications if you need one. For the record, I OPPOSE the negative treatment of Igbos, by Nigerian authorities and institutions, which may be designed to continue to punish them for the war. What I stated in my write-up is fact, but do not assume that I support the misdeed. - when your region is filled with beggars with all manner of diseases and all strains of polio yet you still think we're paying. If we decide to stoke this boko haram thing -dude your finished. If we decide to help boko with bomb making and delivery, then its over for u.Oga, Thank you for pointing out the gross neglect and marginalization of the people of the Northern region. It is this very act of injustice that breeds foot soldiers for Boko Haram. Heads of states from the North along with their co conspirators from the South, neglected and continue to neglect these ordinary people in the North. Intellectuals such as you turn a blind eye of the gross injustice making you enablers. You are therefore equally guilty. Lets hope GEJ can invest at least N200 billion out of the security budget into rectifying the said misdeed across the North in the first phase of the Amnesty program, then spend another N100 billion on drones to checkmate the remaining MEND terrorists in the SS and remnant Ansaru operatives wherever they are located. That will still leave N500 billion for the rogues in power to steal under the guise of security. It should not take a Bill Clinton to point out the real cause of BH violence. |
careytommy: That !diot, ndu chucks, probably never knew they are political appointees. In essence they are politicians.I don't have time to educate dolts like you this morning so I will only provide you the following information: Army chief: Lieutenant-General O.A. Ihejirika Chief of defense staff: Vice Admiral O.S. Ibrahim Navy Chief: Rear Admiral D.J. Ezeoba Air Force Chief: Air Vice Marshal A.S. Badeh Reach your own conclusion in shame, olodo. I am quite sure that Badeh(from Adamawa state) and Vice Admiral Ibrahim are too bright to express any outrage and/or criticism about their Commander-In-Chief on this matter. That leaves Ihejirika and Rear Admiral D. J. Ezeoba. Now, Rear Admiral Dele Joseph Ezeoba was born in Jos, Plateau State although he hails from Ibusa in Oshimili- North Local Government Area of Delta State. So for obvious reasons, he will not show any public outrage or opposition to GEJ on this issue. That leaves Ihejirika. Ihejirika should be retired immediately if not sacked outright. He has done enough. |
Onlytruth: Let me tell you something I suspect you don't know about. I've been ignoring your usual insults on those of us who abhor mass murder, those who condemn killing of innocent Nigerians with impunity. You call us "effeminate" and "emotional". I call you WEAK and FOOLISH.shatap dia!! Do you think Nigerians from certain regions are better than those from other regions in the eyes of God? For your information, the Northerners have suffered more casualties than you people from BH bombs, in addition to being victims of indiscriminate killings by JTF. You should be outraged by the killing of any innocent Nigerian regardless of his/her state or region of origin. Your problem is that you still look at Northerners as inferior to you and you believe that your people are more special. I say shame on you for that! olodo As for the army officers, well, they can do whatever, but they must never forget that they swore an oath to defend the rest of Nigerians against all enemies killing them wantonly in their own country. That is their only job -to keep the citizens safe.Wrong sir!! The President swore an oath to defend Nigerians against all enemies. The army officers take orders from their civilian commander-in-chief. Don't get it twisted. mens dept: This shows that you are a fool.Intellectual Midget ka obu. Ewu can beer |
Onlytruth: I would listen to the military service chiefs if I were Jonathan. It is an indirect insult on them that the same murderous gang that killed many of their own is allowed to walked away, probably with payments sef.The faceless and supposedly outraged military chiefs are cowards and unfit to be military chiefs. You don't go around acting like politicians when you are supposed to be professional soldiers. As soon as they are identified, they should be relieved of their offices and possibly court marshaled. Their wings must be cut before they start believing that they can fly. If you are in the military, you are trained not to be emotional like Dan Daudus,or offended by the actions of your superiors. You take orders and say Yes Sir and shut up!! That is what you are trained to do. |
Some of these military chiefs should remember that they take orders from the commander in chief and that military rule is over. GEJ needs to make an example of a few of them by retiring them instantly. |
Sebi April fool period don finish. Bloody jokers www.nairaland.com/attachments/180447_ROTFLMAO_gif3d0c775232c7f27cf80592785b9635b6 |
My people (aka MEND) will never bomb Abuja. (GEJ on national TV after Okhar and co bombed Abuja). We now know better. The Igbos made the mistake of attempting to secede and carry all the oil territories with them, all under the pretext that the Feds reneged on some Aburi non binding agreement, and they are still paying for their crimes today. This time around the fishermen from the SS and their co conspirators, Insha Allah, will permanently reside with fishes when all is said and done. |
There is nothing unexpected from this move by the federal government. Only the narrow minded bigots are shell-shocked. ![]() |
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