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Can my Igbo brothers say the following: "If indeed these summary killings took place, then we apologize for it" Shikena.

Its time to let bygones be bygones, the civil war was not an o.rgy, attended by the most beautiful African women who were volumptuous and were ready to roll. It was a doggone war, for crying out loudly! During wars, people get killed, either summarily as alleged by Beaf or in other ways.

I will remind those who are sensible, to note that the next civil war in Nigeria will render the Rwandan condition child's play. Lets bury the hatchet and move this country forward.

BTW where is Sam Ikenna, I'd like to hear from that pastor in a thread like this?

Beaf: For the avoidance of doubt. Let me repeat that you and your type are hate filled scum, id!ots, bullies, liars and cowards who feel it is easy to revise history and tell lies about minorities, because we make an "easy" target.


http://www.dawodu.net/midwest.htm

Beaf, please note that many of us lost relatives on both sides, so we have an interest in knowing the truth about events of the civil war. It is not sufficient to use the contents of 1 website and no other source to support your claims and thereby call people with differing views liars and cowards.

It would be helpful to some of the younger kids who are reading these posts and others if you can find more than a single source to support your claims. For all we know, the authors of the article on dawodu.net could be the ones who are hate filled and are liars.

It behooves you to do the intellectual exercise of providing additional corroboration for your story.

Beaf: Dude, we are having a family quarell, strangers are unwelcome. Thanks.

Biko, do not use my presence as an excuse to stop the interesting discussion. Dede1 will answer my question shortly. I will also checkout the link posted by Physics.

@Physics, Can you envision any scenario wherein your people can share a new country with Igbos, in Biafra or some other country? You don't have to answer and I am not here to bait.

[Chorus]

You be thief (I no be thief)
You be rogue (I no be rogue)
You dey steal (I no dey steal)
You be robber (I no be robber)
You be armed robber (No be armed robber)
I no be thief (You be thief)
I no be rogue (You be rogue)
I no dey steal (You dey steal)
I no be robber (You be robber)
I no be armed robber (You be armed robber)
[Chorus]
Argument, argument!
Argument, argument, argue
Them argue
Everbody dem argue
Them dem dem argue
Up and down them argue
Everbody dem argue
Them dem dem dem argue
Yes yes, them argue
Everbody dem argue
Argument about stealing
Somebody don take something
Wey belong to another person
Then you go hear:
You be thief (I no be thief)...
On top of the road, on the side
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Ati be be lo

Respects - Fela omo iya aje.

Dede1, I do not admire your foolish antics of calling our dear country cesspit, but I know that you try your best to provide historical facts regardless of whose ox is gored (though you embellish once in a while). Now, what really happened? Why did you, Eziachi (the respected NL biafran warrior) and others do what Beaf alleges? I ask you because I know you do not shy away from difficult questions.

@Beaf, Why are you unable to discuss the specific issues raised by the OP without first joining it to an unrelated allowance levels of NASS? I should know the answer to my own question - the executive (aka GEJ) is being criticized. SMH

Onlytruth: I believe that the Orient Petroleum is partly owned by Anambra state. I read it somewhere when they were doing private placement sometime ago. I will look for a more credible information on that. I don't know about the refinery, but if Orient owns it, then Anambra state owns part of it.

Your belief does not make it a fact. It is irresponsible of you to believe such a story without verification. Orient Petroleum is 100% privately owned. olodo

Dede1: I do not know which Nigerians should be classified as inherent disappointment, the European-styled educated or the African-styled educated ones. When did buying or acquiring crude oil container or platform become an achievement that needs to be celebrated? Nigerians should equally celebrate the acquiring of water containers by the pure water sellers. Anything pertaining to crude oil seems to intoxicate Nigerians to the level of drunken stupor. The Pipelaying/Derrick Barge in discussion was not even structurally wielded together in Nigeria. Ordinary old refurbished and repainted Barge is driving some Nigerians crazy. What will happen when an indigenous crude oil company acquires refurbished ocean- going crude oil tanker?

^^^^^ Ezeokwu.

sylve11: Since it's a government stuff i don't see it doing well.

This is one of the the kokos of the matter.

PHIPEX: The economy of Awka city revolves primarily around government since many state and federal institutions are located there. Awka hosts the State Governor's Lodge, State Assembly and State Ministries for Health, Education, Lands, Water.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Awka

Wikipedia is now the authoritative source for the confirmation of part ownership of Orient Petroleum Refinery, by Anambra state. SMH

BodyKiss: What a crap? After people will wonder why we're still where we are.

Not everything is about how much you spend, and not everybody like compromising their self-belief. I would be happier spending 50k in fighting this kind of act and be victorious, than giving them the 5k and compromise my self-belief.

Calm down, I'm on your side. If the OP has the resources to fight these thieves, he should. I can assure you that people with such resources would never fall as victims to the thieving LG. A single phone call would have caused whoever delivered the letter, punished severely. If they delivered such a letter to me, I'd go to the LG office and personally slap the guy who orchestrated the theft. Abi you people no dey live for naija ni?

edoyad: Nigeria's Industrial Carbon Footprint is just a dot compared to any average Industrial country, not to mention Super Powers. Don't let these people deceive you, even if we quadrupled our emission levels we would not be remotely near Western levels. Yes the Ideal situation would be to focus on gas but Coal is cheap and available for now. It would create Jobs and help states like kogi generate much needed revenue. The Countries telling you to Shun Coal Still have massive Coal mines and Coal power Stations

When the small emission level gives one of your relatives cancer, you'll have a rethink. Why can't this government invest in natural gas which we have in abundance and transport them by rail/pipeline, and use storage facilities in key locations thereby making them readily available to gas fired plants?

There are other ways to create jobs than coal mining. A small refinery in Kogi state would be a better investment in my opinion. (costs less than $1billion like the one being built in Anambra)

@OP, go and pay these officials the N5,000. You will spend much more than that and suffer in many other ways, otherwise. If you can find a lawyer relative of yours who can represent you for free, then pursue the case but note that you will be blacklisted by your LGA - trust me, you don't need the headache.

Yoruba people talks say, eni ale mu ni an le idi mo (na woman wey weak, corrupt boy dey take prick rob her yansh inside packed bus - mean woman go slap am ) N5,000 no reach money wey you fit blow at a sitting for bukka.

Onlytruth: @Topic

This project is a test of the Obi government. If the refinery is commissioned THIS YEAR, then he has succeeded.
ndu_chucks, your sanctimonious opinion rant is not needed or solicited. Go and help quell Boko Haram first.
Anu mpama.

Eze, please do not allow sentiments to becloud your better judgement. Obi does not deserve any credit for bringing this refinery online. Any dullard of a governor will support such a project with good roads, tax breaks and other facilities because of the obvious potential economic benefits to Anambra state, if the refinery is successful.

The credit belongs to Chief Anyaoku, Ekwueme, and other officers of Orient Petroleum Resources, the owners of the refinery. This company has been working on bringing this refinery online since 2002! You people should be asking Obi what he spent N4billion on!

This refinery is actually quite small, it is capable of refining 55,000 bpsd when it is operating at full capacity. The refinery was financed (90%) by Exim bank of China ($550 - $600million).

The refinery should have very positive economic impact in the region. The refinery is to get most of its crude oil from onshore rigs owned by Orient Petroleum - lets hope Obi and others have plans in place to deal with pollution, spills, and rig accidents which are sure to occur sooner or later.

Coal ko? We have enough natural gas, a substantial quantity which is burning away as waste, yet they want to start using coal fired electric generation plants. I suppose the CO, SO₂, and other resulting air pollutants which are by products of such plants will be cleaned up instead of allowing them to substantially increase health risks and depletion of the ozone layer risks.

@NRI_PRIEST and others are advised to educate themselves further by going over this presentation. This should convince you that the Governor of Anambra owes you an explanation on what he spent the said N4billion on.

Read This For Further Enlightenment, Ignorance is Bad

Ask yourself why Anambra State was not mentioned as part owners.

Beaf: This is Nigeria's first full cycle effort in the oil industry. It is a pride and a great leap forward indeed!
Respect.

Beaf, for once I agree with you here.

@NRI_PRIEST, I'm still waiting for your evidence that Anambra state owns any part of the refinery which is licensed to a private company.

@Debosky, your questions are very pertinent and beg for answers.

chino11: I don't have the economic time to argue with you tonight, because you have a funny way of twisting already established facts wrongly. The fact is that, it is not healthy and sustainable for state to own and run an investment effectively. So its pertinent that Anambra does not own it 100% for the investment to grow and develop. The 4B Anambra invested in the project is the share of Anambrans in the project. The cost of the project itself runs into millions of dallars, I think the actually cost of the project maybe around 15-20B.

Go and spread your lies elsewhere, if you cannot show us a single evidence that Anambra owns any piece of the refinery. This refinery was financed by the Chinese who are part owners. The state of Anambra owns 0% of the refinery. Prove me wrong if you can.

chino11: The refinery is not wholly own by Anambra state. There are other interests of which Anambra state, some indivdual investors and 21 council areas of Anambra state are stakeholders. Anambra state has made the project private sector driven for economic sustainability of the refinery. It is of note that for any investment to survive government must allow private investor to run and manage it.

hehehe, the story has now changed to "Refinery is not wholly owned by Anambra state". Please provide us with evidence that Anambra state owns any part of this private refinery. I submit that you will find no such evidence. This is a completely privately owned refinery licenced to Orient Petroleum. Her's additional information for you here

The benefit of the refinery to Anambra cannot be overstated, but there is no need for you people to claim that the refinery is state owned. You people cannot be daft enough not to know how to search for publicly available information, can you?

OAM4J: Did you read this part ndu_chucks?

Sooner or later, they will blame the reporter for the falsity of the information. The refinery is not state owned.

Please see conflicting information here:

The company, according to Anyaoku, had equally finalized the detailed engineering and sourced the modules of its 55,000 bpd refinery. It had also completed the geo-technical, geological and hydro-geological surveys and civil engineering works for installation of refinery equipment.

From Vanguard Feb 12 2012

From the company's public documents:

Orient Petroleum Resources Plc (OPR), the holding company of OPR-Refining & Petrochemicals Plc, has an integrated business model that spans the upstream and downstream of the petroleum industry. After the Federal Government of Nigeria (FGN) had granted to the company the Licence to Establish and the Approval to Construct its 55,000 bpsd refinery in 2002 and 2004, respectively, the company had gone ahead to obtain from the FGN in 2005 the Environmental Impact Assessment (EIA) Certificate for its refinery, the first refinery in Nigeria to obtain such an EIA Certificate. OPR has since completed the detailed engineering, sourced the modules of its refinery and completed the following project components....

From 2011 Annual General Meeting - Chairman's Address

This was not a joint venture, Anambra state spent money on roads e.t.c but does not own the refinery. Where is the proof that Anambra owns this refinery? The author of the article being quoted is misinformed. The real question is, what did Anambra state spend the N4billion on?

Why did Anambra state spend N4billion on Orient Refinery which is not owned by the state of Anambra?

The Federal Government of Nigeria (FGN) had granted Orient Petroleum Resources Plc (OPR), the holding company of OPR-Refining & Petrochemicals Plc, the Licence to Establish and the Approval to Construct its 55,000 bpsd refinery in 2002 and 2004.

The chairman of this company is Chief Emeka Anyaoku. You people need to ask your Governor and his cohorts what they spent N4billion for, if not to line their own pockets. SMH

^^^^ This is quite simplistic and naive.

Frankly, anyone who does not understand that only a President from the Northern part of Nigeria can succeed GEJ is naive and completely out of touch with the realities on ground.

Some of the analysis on this thread, primarily by voluntary exiles, are so very absurd that I don’t even know where to begin deconstructing their gibberish. Some of you people need to come and spend a minimum of 1 year at home to appreciate the Nigerian condition.

Eziachi, nwanne m maramma. Respects sir. It takes a special person to make your last 2 posts. We cannot thank you enough for your sacrifices.

Every sensible Nigerian should put all efforts towards unseating PDP in 2015. Sentiments should be set aside in furtherance of this goal.

Beaf: What makes you think they do not realise we are at war?

When you are at war, you arrest, lock up, and/or execute all enemies within your reach. How many of the BH sponsors which the President told us are part of his administration have been arrested and locked up? Whatever happened to the names of BH sponsors which the administration promised to release to the public? Abeg make we hear word.

Folks are conveniently positing that this was a staged event because the assumption enables them to continue to bury their heads in denial. The culprit does not fit their profile of a Northerner or Almajiri looking terrorist.

I tend to believe that the drugged up terrorist was caught red handed by security operatives. What should concern GEJ and his administration is that the terrorist got as close to the dignitaries as he did. Its only a matter of time before one of these terrorists succeeds in blowing up members of the cabinet, NASS, and other officials.

When that happens, it will finally dawn on these people that we are at war.

robinhoodd2: the suspect is neither an hausa man nor a muslim,who is fooling who?his name is JOHN AKPABU

www.nairaland.com/attachments/648223_rak_jpg3be10a689dcae3eda0158a90666e866e

Onlytruth: Eh @OP

Would you accept Ojukwu's face in the new N5000 note?
I de wait your ansa o.

This is a dumb question. Frankly I don't give a dog-gone whose face is on any currency, what matters is that I have enough of the currency for my edification. If dem like make dem put Ojukwu face or even Ebele own sef.

[quote author=9ja_I_hail]Ndu chucks nama, why is it that each and everyday your level of mumu continue to rise? Some times i help u feel ashamed for displaying your mumu PHD in public forum such as nairaland.[/quote]Your reaction is understandable. The truth is usually very bitter and I am sure you are very disappointed that your hero does not subscribe to your bigotry and extreme tribalism. Chief Uche Ezechukwu was Ojukwu's personal aide for 3 years and his account is quite believable. Why are you all bent out of shape by the truth? Calling me names does not change the facts as laid out by Chief Ezechukwu, a man with unblemished character and a pillar of the Ndigbo community.

Ikemba was born in Zungeru, lived most of his life in the North and Lagos. These are facts which cannot be disputed and according Chief Ezechukwu, he was more of a Nigerian from the other groups than his native Igbo.

Sun columnist, Chief Uche Ezechukwu, who was a personal aide to the late Igbo leader, has revealed some of the most closely guarded secrets of the late Ikemba in a book.

Those who claim to adore Ojukwu should also espouse his belief in ONE NIGERIA and drop their foolish idea of the biafra nation.

Ezechukwu who worked with Ojukwu as personal aide between 1986 and 1988 said the late Ikemba told him several intimate secrets about his life during their working relationship.

And one of such secrets as he told Daily Sun in an interview, is that Ojukwu's joining of the National Party of Nigeria (NPN), the ruling party as at the time he came back to the nation was not because it was the condition for his pardon as speculated by many.

'I revealed in the book - Ojukwu: The 'Rebel' I served, meant for launch today, that the late Ikemba told me in confidence why he joined the NPN instead of the Nigeria Peoples Party (NPP) every other outstanding Igbo was a member.'There was this particular day he told me that, if he had got such condition of joining NPN on return, he would have turned down the offer and noted that as a matter of fact, his reason for snubbing the NPP in preference for NPN was to disabuse people's minds that he came back to reactivate his ethnic struggles.

'Remember that NPP championed by the Great Zik was viewed as a party for the Igbo, and Ojukwu knew this. So he reasoned that if he join the same party, many Nigerians would still see him as the old Biafra leader coming back to continue with the agenda on a different platform. So he teamed up with the party that was seen as a national platform quite unlike the UPN and NPP, to demonstrate that he was really ready to reintegrate into the mainstream of nationalism.

'Ojukwu was a man that was Igbo and knew Igbo only during a war situation and warfare frame of mentality. We know very well he was born in the North and had his early childhood and later military career there. He grew up in Lagos and schooled there. So, in more ways than the ordinary, he was more of a Nigerian from the other groups than his native Igbo. That was his major reason for joining the NPN,' Ezechukwu noted.

The author also explained that he wrote the book in a hurry after Ojukwu's demise was announced. 'The book was not actually planned. But when Ojukwu died, I was in Enugu and I kept getting calls from media houses to comment on the death to a point that I decided it wasn't reasonable speaking about the Ojukwu I knew intimately in piecemeal.

'Thereafter, I posted a comment on facebook and got responses that made me act immediately to start writing. After 17 days of work, the book was ready for the press, and I had planned to roll it out on his burial day. But after some reasonable arguments, including that from my wife, on the impression that might be read into it, I decided to defer its outing to a later date after his burial.' Ezechukwu noted that the book launch is just one and first of the activities planned to keep the memory of Ojukwu alive by a group known as the Ikemba Immortality Group (IIG).

He promised that the book would afford a great insight into the Ojukwu, many people never knew and bring to light those ways of the great mind that he reserved only for private audience, including the great respect he had for late Chief Obafemi Awolowo. The book also promised to x-ray Ojukwu's zeal for the Nigerian nation, including how the nagging to be part of the leadership of the nation as a unified entity initially informed his resolve to join the Nigerian Army, as the first university graduate enrolled in the service.

Source

[quote author=ekt_bear]Why would Niger State indigenes in general or this particular LGA have a problem with him?

Just because he was bad for most Nigerians doesn't mean that he was bad for say his home LGA or those near it..[/quote]What a narrow minded opinion/question! Quite disappointing

He was more than an ordinary leader of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, he was past President-General