₦airaland Forum

okunoba:
@ndu_chucks, I am impressed by your comments, but am afraid u are just talking to a brick wall. The people u are trying to reason with are too angry and bitter beyond reason. I bow to your perseverance. May the souls of all the people that died during the Biafran War rest in peace.

okunoba, thanks for your commemts, your observations are spot on. 

You'll notice that these people would rather argue about the interpretation of an igbo proverb than to provide the hausa lyrics to the war song which they claimed, falsely, calls for the raping of their women.

I actually feel sorry for these people because, they too are casualties of the war.  The fact that they are casualties of war does not mean that we should allow them to spread hate and untruths about historical events.

wirinet:
Naijaking1, you really have an axe to grind with Sanusi. I do not understand how you relate the sponsoring of an event that had been going on for years with the removal, arrest and prosecution of certain MDs for corruption and unethical banking practices. I need someone to help me understand the link between the two.

naijaking no go admit wrongdoing at all at all, especially if de ting be sanusi related matter. i don tackle am many times, him too stubborn. naijaking na de kind person wey my Yoruba copatriots de call "aj'okuta ma mu'min" meaning, person wey dey eat stone without drinking water to wash am down. dan iska ne naijaking.

Dede1:
@ndu_chucks

I hope your disjointed and proverbial phrase has nothing to do with much maligned apology to Biafrans as being floated around by deceitful Nigerians such as you. Pal, the Biafrans will neither seek apology nor tender one as the colonial contraption called Nigeria spines to half life.

who be dis dede1 of a guy wey no sabi read? did you read my response to sapeleguy, where I provided him with context?

you call ya self ogbonje scientist and you no sabi comprehend simple english. how you take conclude say my statement relate to apology wey people dey float around? i don tell you once say na akamu dey ya brain and your posts dey continue to confirm this fact.

in ya usual manner, i expect you to return with abuses and curses, bushman.

go join ya superiors like ojukwu, soludo, kalu and co, if you get the guts to contribute positively. war ended 40years ago!! dan daudu olodo.

SapeleGuy:
A creditor is being told he won't be paid, and he is saying he won't accept a black goat.

Ndu_chucks please explain the relevance of this parable to this matter.

na de literal translation of the igbo phrase wey you provide. i want make eziachi wey claim to be real igbo make him go find elders for village to tell am how de phrase apply. i no go help de boy at all. eziachi na onye ocha.

@sapeleguy, for context, i post de phrase after onye ocha eziachi continued to ask me to prove say dem be liars, despite de fact say i tell am over and over again, say na dem wey need to supply proof.

Eziachi:
You make me laugh. I don't know where you copied the Igbo phrase you just posted as it has no relation to what is been discussed at all. probabaly you want to impress but sadly, you knew little about Igbo language or just an Efulefu. You are asking for lyrics but the burden of proof in on your head not mine. You are the one disputing the fact that what was pubilsh is not true, so if it's not true it's up to you to disprove it. You can write radio kADUNA for help, I am sure they will be willing to help you.

see eziachi wey start thread titled history lesson, eziachi wey dig up quotes from 1960s, and even find hate promoting points from 1900s oyibo documents - de same eziachi no fit produce de lyrics wey him and his fellow haters claim to contain a call to rape their people!!

on top of dat, eziachi wey claim to be igbo, no fit decipher de igbo proverb wey i gi am. him talk say de quote dey irrelevant his fellow igbo, onlytruth, wey sabi de meaning of de quote, reacted differently.

de only ting wey i fit conclude be say eziachi no be real igbo; eziachi na onye ocha (oyibo boy)! he is possibly one of de people wey enemies of nigeria dey plant for nigerian forums to spread hate.

try find way to contact onlytruth, make him help you interprete de igbo wey i post before. ewu onye ocha!

@naijaking, we all know say your animousity towards sanusi na because him fascilitate de arrest your hero, cecilia ibru, wey help to ruin oceanic bank and wey dey on her way to prison.

dis new misinformation crusade wey you dey use to attack sanusi dey beneath even you.  make you remember say, informed people go point out your lies as soon as you post them for here.

Jarus:
Having read over 30 of SLS's articles, I'm not surprised. This is vintage Sanusi. This is all he has lived for, and he hasn't dropped it, even now that he's part of government. One thing I infer from his write-ups is that he doesn't care whose ox is gored, he says his mind.

Imagine criticizing an author right there in his presence, openly stating his opinion at an avenue where many people 'lick ass'(to use nairalanders' favourite word), openly disgreeing with other panelists.

I also share the view that it is wrong to blame Hausa/Fulani for all the woes of this country. Nigeria's problem knows no tribe.

This man has guts.  The following statement by Sanusi should be very instructive to those accusing him of some northern agenda:

We talk ethnicity when it pleases us. It is hypocrisy. You said elections were rigged in 1959, Obasanjo and Maurice Iwu rigged election in 2007. Was it a Southern thing? It was not.

@eziachi, post de lyrics in hausa if you get am, otherwise go find elders for village wey go translate dis one for you.  diaspora no qualify as village.

A na-asi onye e ji ugwo na agaghi akwu ya ugwo e ji ya, onye e ji ugwo na-asi na e nye ya ewu ojii na ya agaghi ewe

Source: The Sun News On-line |

The Central Bank Governor, Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, surprised guests present at the Musom Centre for the launching of the book of Sir Lanihun Ajayi at the MusoN Centre in Lagos.

The book titled: “Nigeria, Africa’s failed asset?” attracted many important dignitaries, intellectuals and some governors.

The argument by discussants centered on whether or not the colonial masters laid the foundation for the problems Nigeria is currently facing. Many argued that the British loved the North and that was why it gave more than 5o percent of the National Assembly seats to the North at independence.
Sanusi, however, stole the show when he spoke. His speech was anchored on the plank that the British and Nigerian rulers are responsible for the state of the situation Nigeria finds itself today.
Below is his unedited speech.

“Let me start by saying that I am Fulani (laughter). My grandfather was an Emir and therefore I represent all that has been talked about this afternoon. Sir Ajayi has written a book. And like all Nigerians of his generation, he has written in the language of his generation.
“My grandfather was a Northerner, I am a Nigerian. The problem with this country is that in 2009, we speak in the language of 1953. Sir Olaniwun can be forgiven for the way he spoke, but I can not forgive people of my generation speaking in that language.

“Let us go into this issue because there are so many myths that are being bandied around.
Before colonialism, there was nothing like Northern Nigeria. Before the Sokoto Jihad, there was nothing like the Sokoto caliphate. The man from Kano regard himself as Abakani. The man from Zaria was Abazasage. The man from Katsina was Abakani. The kingdoms were at war with each other. They were Hausas, they were Muslims, they were killing each other.

“The Yoruba were Ijebu, Owo, Ijesha, Akoko, Egba. When did they become one? When did the North become one? You have the Sokoto Caliphate that brought every person from Adamawa to Sokoto and said it is one kingdom. They now said it was a Muslim North.
“The Colonialists came, put that together and said it is now called the Northern Nigeria. Do you know what happened? Our grand fathers were able to transform to being Northerners. We have not been able to transform to being Nigerians. The fault is ours.

Tell me, how many governors has South West produced after Awolowo that are role models of leadership? How many governors has the East produced like Nnamdi Azikiwe that can be role models of leadership? How Many governors in the Niger Delta are role models of leadership? Tell me. There is no evidence statistically that any past of this country has produced good leaders.
You talk about Babangida and the economy. Who were the people in charge of the economy during Babangida era? Olu Falae, Kalu Idika Kalu. What state are they from in the North?
“We started the banking reform; the first thing I heard was that in Urobo land, that there will be a course of the ancestors. I said they (ancestors) would not answer. They said why? I said how many factories did Ibru build in Urobo land? So, why will the ancestors of the Urobo people support her?

“We talk ethnicity when it pleases us. It is hypocrisy. You said elections were rigged in 1959, Obasanjo and Maurice Iwu rigged election in 2007. Was it a Southern thing? It was not.
“The problem is: everywhere in this country, there is one Hausa, Ibo, Yoruba and Itshekiri man whose concern is how to get his hands on the pile and how much he can steal. Whether it is in the military or in the civilian government, they seat down, they eat together. In fact, the constitution says there must be a minister from every state.

“So, anybody that is still preaching that the problem of Nigeria is Yoruba or Hausa or Fulani, he does not love Nigeria. The problem with Nigeria is that a group of people from each and every ethnic tribe is very selfish. The poverty that is found in Maiduguri is even worse than any poverty that you find in any part of the South. The British came for 60 years and Sir Ajayi talked about few numbers of graduates in the North (two at independence). What he did not say was that there was a documented policy of the British when they came that the Northerner should not be educated. It was documented. It was British colonial policy. I have the document. I have published articles on it. That if you educate the Northerner you will produce progressive Muslim intellectuals of the type we have in Egypt and India. So, do not educate them. It was documented. And you say they love us (North).

“I have spent the better part of my life to fight and Dr. (Reuben) Abati knows me. Yes, my grandfather was an Emir. Why was I in the pro-democracy movement fighting for June 12? Is (Moshood) Abiola from Kano? Why am I a founding director of the Kudirat Initiative for Nigerian Development (KIND)?
“There are good Yoruba people, good Igbo people, good Fulani people, good Nigerians and there are bad people everywhere. That is the truth.
“Stop talking about dividing Nigeria because we are not the most populous country in the world. We have all the resources that make it easy to make one united great Nigeria. It is better if we are united than to divide it.
“Every time you talk about division, when you restructure, do you know what will happen? In Delta, Area, the people in Warri will say Agbor, you don’t have oil. When was the Niger Delta constructed as a political enlity? Ten years ago, the Itshekiris were fighting the Urobos. Isn’t that what was happening? Now they have become Niger Delta because they have found oil. After, it will be, if you do not have oil in your village then you can not share our resources.

“There is no country in the world where resources are found in everybody’s hamlet. But people have leaders and they said if you have this geography and if we are one state, then we have a responsibility for making sure that the people who belong to this country have a good nature.
“So, why don’t you talk about; we don’t have infrastructure, we don’t have education, we don’t have health. We are still talking about Fulani. Is it the Fulani cattle rearer or is anybody saying there is no poverty among the Fulani?”, he said

naijaking1:
The principle of equity and fair play dictates that all the above write-up are simply rumors until proven by the court. So, you can continue your rumor mongering with Sanusi, it should have no influence on the outcome of justice.

i expected dis ya response and i generally agree with it. some of us don read court papers and believe you me, de ting no look good for cecilia.

naijaking, promise me say, when dem present evidence of de tings wey i post, you go call for cecilia to rot for jail. de request dey simple enough, ko?

hehehehehe! madam ibru don begin play de role of tarot card reader    she dey accuse sanusi of attempting to sell oceanic to his friends. wow, what a lady!!

i go appreciate when naijaking and cecilia help us clarify these issues. make una try only 2 issues out of the 72 charges wey dey for court.

Issue involving the building of Oceanic Bank's corporate headquarters on Victoria Island in Lagos in active collaboration with the operators of Waves Nig Ltd, a company formerly owned by one of the sons of Ibru 

Oceanic bank gave Waves Nigeria Ltd a loan facility of $110million and N6billion to construct the corporate headquarters of the bank.
Waves Nig Ltd allegedly paid the sum of $10million into the personal account of the former Managing Director (ie cecilia) from the supposed facility of $110million

The bank also paid a ten year rent of $22million to Waves Nig Ltd while the corporate headquarters construction was on-going


Cecilia's housemaid got a N14billion loan from Oceanic bank without collateral!!


All these activities happen because sanusi wants to sell oceanic bank to friends!   i don laugh tire.  e be like say bode george go soon get girl friend for jail. 

Beaf:
The translated version of the Radio Kaduna theme song is everywhere on the web. Does anyone have the the original Hausa version?
This is a very controversial issue, I would like to know the unambiguous truth.

i find the translated version for many hate websites and even for wikipedia. i don delete de erroneous information wey dem put for wikipedia.  these haters just dey hell bent on re-writing history.  na dat kind attitude dey make things harder for well meaning nigerians.

since these people post the translation everywhere, make dem produce de hausa lyrics.  i guarantee you say, no reference to raping people dey there.  truth be say, dem no dey check their facts,  once somebody tell dem anyting wey go feed their hate mongering, na so dem go begin act like mumu dey follow spread de lies.

nothing dey controversial for this issue, na blatant lie, designed to spread hate. simple as that.

make dem prove me wrong, the onus is on the rumour/hate mongers.

Katsumoto:
While this may (education) may not solve all the problems in Nigeria, it would at least lead to a reduction in the number of riots and massacres of innocent southerners.

ezeokwu!! i agree with you here, if you add de money wey dem budget for ministry of education at de federal level, and all the ministries of education for every state for de past 10 years; de money go don pass $10 billion!!

@katsumoto, de northern elite wey you mention, indeed let down these people.

but no be only de heads of states wey me i go hold accountable. de leadership wey fail us include heads of state, governors wey no develop their states, ministers wey no implement federal programs and prefer to pocket budget money, member o de house/senate for federal and local levels.

you see, all these failed leaders come from just about every tribe. de issue of failed leadership goes beyond tribe or tribalism for me.

de almanjiris, along with de ordinary people wey dey live for niger delta, are the most marginalized people in nigeria.

every well meaning nigerian should be ashamed of the plight of dis people.

Eziachi:
A typical mentally blind argument. If you think something is not correct or authentic , wouldn’t the right thing to be that you post the what you think is the correct one.
If you disagree with the quote, why not post the one you said is the Hausa version and lets hear it. You are what you are: GENOCIDE DENIAL/MASS RAPE APOLOGIST/GLORIFIER

by now, you supposed to don know say name calling no dey bother me. i know say when you people are confronted with superior argument, na name calling be de only response wey una dey get.

onlytruth, in his continued attempt to spread hate, talk say radio kaduna theme song include "rape their womenfolk".  since na hausa dem take sing de song, i challenge onlytruth make him provide the lyrics wey him translate. till now we never hear response.

now you dey use my remark to call me names.  people wey dey read these posts no be brainless people like you, dem sabi make sensible deductions.

if you get superior argument, make we here am, otherwise continue to wallow in ya self hate. olodo, dan tselewa.

naijaking1:
@Abagworo
I agree with you. The only beneficiary of Igbo/Yoruba disunity is the north.

gaskiya ta fi kwabo.     



@ezeagu; gowon na christian in case you no know.

ochukoccna:
I'm sure U R a militant. I can just picture you holding your AK47 with your right hand and a blunt in your left [seeing any militant with a brain cant do what was done yesterday against their own people if not under the influence], smoking coming out your nostrils with a UNIPORT chick under you screaming for mercy. What a gory sick scene!
I never heard Mandela's ANC members accused of raping  fellow blacks they were fighting to liberate. Such a dirty shame your heroes no get moral restrain not to go against their own. Hiding under the guise of having been a victim of oppression to mete it back upon those whom  you claim to fight for don't make you strong, it makes you a monster. Am not appalled seeing you act like your Taliban brethren in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia and Iraq.

ochukoccna,  so you read my post and reach de conclusion say i be millitant? Allah seriki!  sooner or later, you go discover say i be detribalized forumite wey get zero tollerance for name calling, intellectual laziness, or tribalism.

na one heck of a leap to reach all ya conclusions from de tings wey i post. that says a lot about your intellectual capabilities. what a brilliant guy!

ochukoccna:
From your post, you seem to be condoning the actions of these militants. If we all had this 'the end justifies the means' ideology which you are preaching 9ja for don cease to exist because no be only 9ja Delta govt neglect, na all Nigerians. is it now you see clearly that it's only 9ja Delta youths that lack jobs or opportunities. Let's not be tribalistic in our replies [although I know that one go hard for some of us]. What birthed Yahoo boys? Agberos? And election thugs? Is it not neglect?  Yet because Bode George stole billions and got only 2 years of time in Kirikiri, Obasanjo and co [IBB, Abdulsalam, Abacha etal] stole and are still free men don't give me the right to go steal my own billions too.

ochukoccna,

oh boy, ya conclusion say i condone the actions of the militants dey completely wrong. i no know where you read inside my post wey i talk say de end justifies de means. abeg go re-read my post again, but dis time carefully, so dat you no go reach erroneous conclusion.

no doubt, we get incompetent leadership for nigeria wey neglect their duties in many cases, nobody dey argue dat fact.

de topic at hand, na niger delta ex-millitants, and my statements dey focused on related issues. if you wan discuss de travails of other nigerian groups, such as de almanjiris that are similarly marginalized, go open another thread.

any nigerian wey get brain, know say gross injustice has been pepetrated against de people of niger delta.

one must condemn de actions of de millitants wholeheartedly. but dat no mean say, we no go point out and address de root cause of the problem.

before you begin call these youths wey be victims, criminals or terrorists, make you remember say, dem call mandela terrorist once upon a time.

de people don put down weapons, dey ready for peaceful solutions - the least wey government for do, na to carry out their promises.

Onlytruth:
"Let us go and crush them. We will pillage their property, rape their womenfolk, kill off their menfolk and leave them uselessly weeping. We will complete the pogrom of 1966"

(The theme song of Radio Kaduna, government-controlled, 1967-1970).

you still dey carry on with ya crusade of hate, ko?  stop telling lies, na hausa language dem take sing the war song wey you try to interprete erroneously here.

if you indeed get the lyrics of de song, post am here in hausa, make we interprete am for you correctly. dis one wey you go cut and paste from some propaganda website, so dat you fit use am spread hate, no go work.

dat song no mention any ting about rape. i dey here dey watch una, and i go point out una lies as soon as i catch una. dan tselewa!

yar'adua do well, when him negotiate de amnesty deal. but if him tink say government go continue to neglect thousands of youths without providing jobs or opportunities to make decent living, then make dem expect worse tragedies than the one wey happen for uniport.

wey de billions wey federal government say dem go spend to take rehabilitate these people? dem don rape these kids by polluting their land, neglecting their region e.t.c, and dem wan rape them again by not helping dem to re-enter society as promised! shame on de thieving officials wey supposed to carry out the retraining and resettlement.

dis naija delta problem na complete disgrace, de ting dey ungodly whichever way you look at it.

Today for Abuja:

Mallam go buy dollar: N153
Mallam go sell you dollar: N154

Beaf:
ndu_chucks, thanks for your numerous questions.

I think as SapeleGuy has said, it might be better to reffer this matter to the International Court. The reason being that we don't seem to be ready to acknowledge the fact that there is grieving by the Igbo (whether the war was their fault or not), because of the excessive violence and sardistic methods employed. For example, the excecution of all males above the age of ten in Eastern Delta state made no difference to the outcome of the war, so why was it done? There will no doubt be criminals found on both sides, but if we arent man enough to sort this out, let an impartial foreign court do it.
These things cannot be brushed under the carpet, it takes only a little to salve hearts. Nigeria's way of doing things without any depth of thought is the reason we are so under-developed and in a hurry backwards, we can't even gather own people in a single tent. The day before yesterday, it was the Igbo, yesterday it was Plateau state, today it is the Niger Delta, tomorrow what?

A little common sense goes a long way.

beaf, well done.  I completely agree that there were war crimes commited by both sides and as suggested, the agrieved should gather evidence and take their case to the International Court.  What I find objectionable is the hate mongering exhibited by many posters as if they are the only group negatively affected by the war.  

Spreading hatred on nairaland and calling people with opposing views derrogative names will not help the cause of the agrieved.  It is time to handle legitimate grievances in a more civilized manner.  If the agrieved cannot provide adequate evidence of genocide or any other crime to the International Court, then they should stop complaining.

It is instructive to note that the Ibgo leaders including Ojukwu, current and ex Governors, the Ubas, Ngige, and others prefer not to pursue any legal claims against Nigeria and will probably not support any court action.  I don't believe the federal government is interested in such a court action either -  amnesty was provided to Biafra troops.

That is the unfortunate or fortunate state of affairs.  

It is now up to the OP and his cohorts to take whatever evidence they have to the appropriate arena instead of coming to this forum to stir the pot of hatred and tribalism.

I repost the following questions, because their answers could help the healing process and result to looking inwards. So far only 1 poster has attempted to answer them, and the answers were provided along with insults that typify the characteristics of people whose primary motivator is not fact, history lesson, or education, but hate mongering.

If my guess is correct, not a single one of those posters who are quick to call people with differing views, Idiots, Fools, Stupid, e.t.c.,  will attempt to answer the questions. I believe they have not seriously examined their own history and are primarily filled with hate. They are toothless seccessionists that still think they will secede, and Biafra will be actualized.

I know there are other fine intellectuals of the Igbo extraction that can provide some answers to these questions:


(1)Could  Biafra have survived to this day?

(2)Where did the Biafran war of  survival go wrong?

(3)Did Ojukwu fight for Biafrans or for his personal interests?

(4)Is there any way that the Biafran secession could have been  avoided?

(5)What role did the eastern minorities play in the Biafran struggle?

(6)Who actually killed Nzeogwu, Nigerian federal forces or a group of envious Biafrans?

(7)Did Biafran and Nigerian federal forces swap foods, women, and ammunition?

(What should be done to the living Biafran war criminals?  (war criminals exist in every war)

(9)Where did the Biafran war leave the people of Eastern Nigeria? Is there any way out of it?

(10)To what extent did the Biafran army use chemical weapons in strategic battles?

(11)How effective were the Biafran-made weapons of mass destruction (Ogbunigwe and Flying Ogbunigwe) and self-guided  surface-to-air missiles?

(12)What deal did Cameroon and Nigeria make to facilitate Biafra's defeat

(13)What deal did China and Biafra make and why did it fail to materialize?

(14)Did Biafrans destroy the Nigerian 2nd Div. by sheer chance or by some form of advanced warheads developed in secrecy?

(15)How and why did Biafran soldiers kill fellow Biafran  soldiers?

(16)The lost children of Biafra (who are they and where are they now?

(17)What do you think were the effects of cold-war and pre-colonial policies on the state of Biafra

(18)Biafran women of war: what was their role in the execution of the war and other activities?

(19)What was the alliance between Biafra and Israel: the big deal between them?

(20)What were Biafra's internal sociopoli- tical problems and their effects?

(21)The Biafran "Boys Company", were Ojukwu and his commanders justified in using them for intelligence gathering and other war engagements? Did the Boys Company help the cause of the war?

If the hate mongers answer these questions honestly, they will see that their hate filled  posts are self defeating.  I don't expect the haters to respond because many of them are cowards - so reading the questions and answering them in their minds is actually good enough.

These hate mongers keep talking about Genocide, but they continue to conveniently ignore the genocide the Igbos perpetrated against minority groups in the old Eastern region. This is the kind of intellectual dishonesty and superiority complex that you find in white racists. Even the dumbest white racist assumes that he is smarter than all black folks, unaware that there are black folks with superior intelligence. But just because he is white, he assumes that he is more intelligent than all blacks.

This is what many Igbos posters on this thread are doing; it is called prejudice, bias and bigotry.  These people will hide behind the internet and yap that they are brain surgeons, professors, and the like. Who gives a rats ass?

SapeleGuy:
The truth is not one sided

Questions for 2009 and beyond

How can we prevent this from happenning again?

What can be done to honour the memory of the dead and war victims still alive today?

Formenting hatred is not an option.

i been talk say i no go enter dis thread again, but ya voice of reason don pull me back.  ya questions na de important questions wey well meaning nigerians  should be addressing.

de sad ting be say, many seccessionists still tink say de civil war has not ended, and dem still dey fight inside their heads, dem dey call for war indirectly with threads like dis,  and dem even believe say both warri and sapele are all part of biafra.  

most of those seccessionists na internet warriors wey dey live for diaspora. their superiors including ojukwu, soludo, ngige, the ubas, kalu, and others have no interest whatsoever in another war. hence na only toothless rants wey dem dey spew.

i believe say allah go heal dis people in due course.

@df2006, so what if my name be shehu? how you take sure say my primary residence no dey for enugu? be that as it may, dat no matter, but i challenge you, make you use ya head small, and answer de questions wey i itemize before.

i sure say you no fit answer. you no go answer because it requires intellectual exercise and self examination wey you dey incapable of doing. de easy ting for you na to dey call me shehu and ignore serious questions. dan iska.

Thank God it is not dummies like Afam that will have to decide for Biafra, otherwise many more millions of lives of Ndigbo would be lost.
People like Afam are nothing but a disgrace to the Biafran cause.

Here's a piece of information for those who still believe that  Ndigbos can break away from Nigeria. The Ndigbos cannot break away from Nigeria without the support of the Yorubas. You can take that to the bank. The elites and the enlightened Igbos know this.

The earlier you seccessionists  accept that fact and start making nice with the yorubas,  the "better" off you may be.  Additionally, the ndigbo leaders in Nigeria believe in one Nigeria.  

make una just pray say we no find oil for adamawa, kano, or sakwato anytime soon. because if dem find oil, and we allow una to secceed, na una go take una hands kill una selves finish. i hope una dey observe the politics of anambra as we speak. na my own assessment be dis. shikena. qed.

make una stop all dis direct and indirect war cries. war no good.  i go leave dis thread for una. make una wallow in self hate as una see fit.

RichyBlacK:
Despite all the millions of Igbos killed in that genocidal war, Igbos maintain a strong presence, not only in Nigeria but also at the world stage!

May the souls of our departed kins remain in the bosom of the Lord.

That war was a Nigerian tragedy. May the souls of ALL nigerians lost in that war, be they Igbos, Hausas, Yorubas, Edos, Ogonis, or from any of the more than 250 different tribes in Nigeria, rest in peace.

Eziachi:
Have you heard the saying that, there is no such thing as a free lunch. Education comes with a price, I am not here to supplement your Nigerian made educatin by answering your endless and sometimes meaningless questions not with a quest to learn especially when you think that I am insecure. Why not ask your father, he might tell you some. If he doesn't then let us know.

you just spoil tory with dat statement. if you no get answers, you for talk so. me i no dey insult people parents or refer to dem in a derrogative manner, so i no go respond to you in kind.

additionally, i no go let you turn dis conversation into another tribal war or war of personalities. that go be the lazy way out for you. my questions require self examination, and i fully understand that, it could be difficult and painful for some people.

biko, enjoy ya weekend.

@meta-gong: go look up de meaning of intellectual midget. na you be dat.


@eziachi, i appreciate ya answers and i know say i learn one or two tings from ya responses.  de only ting wey i no like be de abuses wey you reign on me before you give me ya answers. i suspect say you get some sort of insecurity or latent fear wey cause ya reaction.

i no vex, and i wish say other people go respond to my questions as well.  i go appreciate perspectives from various people. if you get time, abeg answer these other questions. my objective na to learn.

(1)What do you think were the effects of cold-war and pre-colonial policies on the state of Biafra

(2)Biafran women of war: what was their role in the execution of the war and other activities?

(3)What was the alliance between Biafra and Israel: the big deal between them?

(4)What were Biafra's internal sociopoli- tical problems and their effects?

(5)The Biafran "Boys Company", were Ojukwu and his commanders justified in using them for intelligence gathering and other war
engagements? Did the Boys Company help the cause of the war?

the answer to these questions go dey very instructive to many of us here.  i challenge the inhouse historians make dem help us with answers. no abuses, no prejudging, dis na just to add small academic dimension to de topic.

finally, whether person be rocket scientist, brain surgeon, or person wey dey clean old people yansh for retirement home, in diaspora, no concern me. i welcome answers to de question from anyone wey dey informed enough to provide answers, regardless of what they do for a living.

[quote author=metal-gong link=topic=351180.msg4919567#msg4919567 date=1258136052]The war is senseless only for you parasites that have nothing to offer to the dungeon called Nigeria. Atulu Awusa!![/quote]metal-gong, ya statement dey naive and completely false.

beneli wey live through de war agree with me. read de statement wey him make and learn. make i post a portion for you here:

beneli:
They died in a senseless war, yet in the hearts of those that survived, they live on.

War is not a good thing.

na people live beneli be real heros, unlike ignorant people like you.

@beneli, thanks a lot. allah will grant you peace and bless you and your family richly.

my questions na to make people understand, minimally, de evil in warfare and to dissuade many of today's youths, who out of ignorance, continue to romance the idea of war.

may we never experience such a senseless war again.

Afam:
I sincerely hope that people do not bother responding to him because there will be no end in sight as regards questions as this is the usual tactics of people that want to derail threads.

if you no get de intellectual capability to answer great questions wey go help us understand eastern political history, or if you dey nervous about de outcome of dis kind intellectual conversation, den you are indeed an intellectual midget.

na people like you go take cutlass chase anyone wey disagree with una, during village meeting. if you no get de stomach for dis kind of examination, go join forum where everyone share de same view with you.

as for me, i prefer to discuss issues rather than personalities or login names of faceless people.  make you continue to hide your ignorance inside tribalism - it will do you no good.  you don already judge my motives and that says a lot about where you are intellectually.

afam, go find elders wey go interprete dis one for you - Ndi Okenye si kwa na anagi eji oke amu eyi akwuna ujo