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TronMaster:
lol... praying in tongue indeed.

Nigga need real help. There are reasons for prophets. It's not every battle you can take on. Even Micheal needs another archangel to set him free in the book of Daniel.

@Op, visit any Celestial church. May God help you.

It has happened to me before and that is how I stopped it. See the thread below.


https://www.nairaland.com/5388417/how-learned-how-tackle-demons

Acrofab:
This has lasted for over 15years. It started after I ate in the dream. Have gone for tests and nothing was found out except malaria and typhoid.

Have prayed and fasted but when it seems the movements is subsiding, I found myself eating in the dream again and the movements will increase.

It is really making life unbearable to me cos the only time I don't feel the movement is when i am sleeping.
Please if you know what I can do to free kindly let me know.
please your help is needed.

This has happened to me before.

The solution is simple. Get filled with the holy spirit with the evidence of speaking in tongues.

Pray in tongues about it for about an hour.

Next destroy it from it's very root in English. Forget about it after the prayer. Believe it has been destroyed


Pray in tongues for at least one-hour every day for the rest of your life. If for any reason you are unable to pray in tongue in a particular day, don't let it boarder you, pray the next day.




Read the following thread



https://www.nairaland.com/5388417/how-learned-how-tackle-demons

See this thread for appropriate response

https://www.nairaland.com/5909518/why-god-justified-sending-people


Summary, people go to hell because of what they are and not because of what they did.

Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ threw "shade" at MOGs( back then they were the Teachers of the law, Scribes and Priests of His day) older than His father.

Do not confuse your cultural ideas and rules with the New Covenant that is Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ never commanded respect for elders. He called us to speak out against the doctrines and traditions of men.

God's word commands us to respect our elders.

1 Timothy 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;



Jesus was way way older than the scribes and Pharisees. He is the pre-existing word of God that became a human being.

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.



John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he saw it, and was glad.

John 8:57 Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham?

John 8:58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.


Besides that, Jesus was the rightful heir to the throne of David; he was their king. 3 wise men from the East had announced at his birth that a child was born who is the king of the Jews


Also, he was the Son of their (the Hebrew's) God.


So, he had the right to rebuke the scribes and the Pharisees on many levels.

new2012:
If you deduce all that from the statement, then bro, You need help.

Hatred and malice has completely sealed your brain.
Bless your heart!

Pastor Adeboye was only obeying the following scripture.




Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God.

13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation.

13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same:

13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake.

13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing.

13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

alBHAGDADI:
He didn't react well to the crisis but cower to government tyranny like a lazy dog with tail between legs.

What did he do when he finally had the opportunity to display the miracles he's boasted of for decades? E decided to wear face shield against COVID-19 which shows that the healing power he claims to have is fraud.

Don't you know that the Apostles of Jesus were killed for not obeying government policies which were against the church? Adeboye doesn't want to die nor lose his empire, that's why he complied.

I'm not surprised because I know he's fake. His type deserve the blackest of darkness in the lake of fire for receiving millions.

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. 13:2 Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. 13:3 For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: 13:4 For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. 13:5 Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. 13:6 For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. 13:7 Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour.

Kobojunkie:
The only one who can define what sin is is God Himself as His commandments and there are no commandments that suggest intoxication a sin.

Paul may have an opinion about it and may be a follower of Jesus Christ but Paul is not God and Paul does not have power to define sin.

Hear Paul as he declare his words as the words of God.



1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

What sort of Christian believes that the words of Paul are not the words of God.

So all those epistles of Paul, peter, James , Jude and John are not God's word?

Kobojunkie:
since the definition is subjective, how do you prove that He was or was not?

Since it is possible for one man to drink a jug of beer without getting drunk while another is able to take a sip and loose his balance, how do in fact know without seeing the situation for yourself?

Since it is in fact possible for one man to eat huge meals without gaining a since pound while another man may consume what a baby does and pack on loads of pounds, how do you tell which of the two is a glutton unless you see it for yourself?

So, if Jesus said He came eating and drinking, I believe He meant it

Eating beyond one's fill is glutony.Drinking to the point of intoxication is drunkenness

Kobojunkie:
did you see Him eating and drinking for you to tell?

Did you see him eating and drinking for you to tell he was drunk?

Kobojunkie:
He was never drunk? Now you are lying!

Show me a scripture that says he was drunk.

Kobojunkie:
The only one who can define what sin is is God Himself as His commandments and there are no commandments that suggest intoxication a sin.

Paul may have an opinion about it and may be a follower of Jesus Christ but Paul is not God and Paul does not have power to define sin.

So, the words of Paul are not the words of God. Why are they in the Bible? Bible says "holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the holy spirit."


2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


Paul spoke those words under the inspiration or moving of the holy Spirit and so it is the word of God.

Minjim:
Lol!
You deliberately interpreted the Bible literally to foster your sinister motives.

I know people like you.

Jesus doesn't speak literally, He speaks in parables. As such, there is always a story behind His words

Jesus never spoke in parable hundred percent percent of the time. In the above case he was definitely not speaking in parable. It will be obvious to you if you read the scripture in context. The contrast he struck with John was a valid contrast. John lived on wild locust and honey.

Matthew 3:4 And the same John had his raiment of camel's hair, and a leathern girdle about his loins; and his meat was locusts and wild honey. Mark 1:6 And John was clothed with camel's hair, and with a girdle of a skin about his loins; and he did eat locusts and wild honey;





Luke 7:31 And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation? and to what are they like?

7:32 They are like unto children sitting in the marketplace, and calling one to another, and saying, We have piped unto you, and ye have not danced; we have mourned to you, and ye have not wept.

7:33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.

7:34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

7:35 But wisdom is justified of all her children.

Kobojunkie:
absurdity ke? Luke 7 vs 34

Luke 7:34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!


That Jesus ate and drank does not mean he was a glutton nor wine biber.

Kobojunkie:
absurdity ke? Luke 7 vs 34

That Jesus ate and drank does not mean he was a glutton nor wine biber.

Kobojunkie:
Not according to the Bible.

Even those who did not like Jesus Christ noted that He was a glutton and a drunk... And no, they were not lying that He liked His alcohol

Let's not try now to lie or put a spin on what is written as if it is our job to fight for God in even these things.

Jesus Christ was never drunk

Matthew 11:19 The Son of man came eating and drinking, and they say, Behold a man gluttonous, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners. But wisdom is justified of her children. Luke 7:34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!


That he was called a glutton and a winebibber doesnt mean he was one.

The same people also once said he was demon possessed. Does that mean he was demon possessed?



Luke 11:15 But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils. 11:17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth. 11:18 If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub. 11:19 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges. 11:20 But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.

Terryishere:
Ok.

Intoxication is definitely a sin.



1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.

Kobojunkie:
Intoxication is not a sin at all.

Intoxication is definitely a sin.



1 Corinthians 5:11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.


The holy spirit inspired Paul to say the above.

SmartyPants:
Bail is a right.

Sorry not all offences are bailable.

I am not a lawyer but I believe murder is one of them

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This thread has been updated

The summary of the whole matter is this: you are rich. You own vast and limitless inheritance.

Never, ever, call yourself poor. Bill gates, and Dangote do not come anywhere close to where you are in wealth and affluence.


Your wealth and riches are reserved safely in heaven for you. All you need to do is to transfer them from heaven to earth in order to enjoy them. All the good things of life belongs to you by right of inhertance.

Don't ever try to be rich. You will woefully fail at it. You cant't become what you already are.

Declare by faith that you are enjoying them now and your fauthd confession will be transformed to reality.

THE INHERITANCE

Bible tells us that in Christ we have obtained an inheritance.


Ephesians 1:11 In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:


Bible further tells us that we are joint-heirs with christ.That is we jointly own all that Christ inherited from God.

Romans 8:17 And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together.


Bible tells us what Christ inherited from God his father.

John 16:15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.

The above scripture tells us that Christ has inherited all that God has. That means we have inherited all that God has.

The question then is this: "What does God have?"
Without making any recourse to scriptures the answer to that question is: " All things, both visible and invisible, because God is the creator of all things"


1 Corinthians 3:21[b] Therefore let no man glory in men. For all things are yours;[/b]


So, now we know we have inherited ALL THINGS. BOTH VISIBLE AND INVISIBLE.

Bible says we are able to enjoy our share of the inhertance of the saints in light.See the following scriptures.


Colossians 1:12 Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:


Colossians 1:12
[12]and giving joyful thanks to the Father, who has qualified you to share in the inheritance of his holy people in the kingdom of light.

Colossians 1:12
[12]always thanking the Father. He has enabled you to share in the inheritance that belongs to his people, who live in the light.


Colossians 1:11
[11](11-12) May you be made strong with all the strength which comes from his glorious power, so that you may be able to endure everything with patience. And with joy give thanks to the Father, who has made you fit to have your share of what God has reserved for his people in the kingdom of light.



Colossians 1:12
[12]and always thankful to the Father who has made us fit to share all the wonderful things that belong to those who live in the Kingdom of light.



Colossians 1:12
[12]Giving thanks to the Father, Who has qualified and made us fit to share the portion which is the inheritance of the saints (God's holy people) in the Light.


The above scriptures says we are meet/qualified/fit to take our share of the inheritance.


One translation renders it as " has given us the ability to enjoy our share of the inheritance.


The next question is: where is our inhertance located?

The answer is found in the scripture below


1 Peter 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 1:4 To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,


So, the inhertance is reserved In heven for us.


Why is it reserved in heaven for us?

Matthew 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:


From the scripture above, it is for people preservation and safe keeping.



So now the BIG question is,"How do we transfer the inheritance from heaven to earth?"

The answer can be found in the scripture below:

Proverbs 12:14 A man shall be satisfied with good by the fruit of his mouth: and the recompence of a man's hands shall be rendered unto him.


So, the answer is this: by the confessions of your lips.
Confess every blessed day and frequently as possible that you have obtained an inhertance in christ and that you are already enjoying it now.That is faith. Faith calleth those things which be not as though they were.


Romans 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

onlyfacts:
Scientist have found the fossil remains of DINOSAURS and not DRAGONS. Dinosaurs and Dragons are two different things. Dinosaur was a real animal that walked the earth, why Dragon is a symbolic/mythical creature/monster/beast( note not an animal).

You can google search the difference between dragon and dinosaur

Here are examples of such a Google search https://msnucleus.org/membership/html/k-6/rc/pastlife/1/rcpl1_1a.html

https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-difference-between-A-Dinosaur-and-A-Dragon#

You are probably right.Dragon was probably the popular name for flying dinosaurs.

Check the link below


https://www.google.com/amp/s/api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/science/2019/09/cryodrakon-new-frozen-dragon-pterosaur-found-hiding-in-plain-sightothw

THE BLESSING OF THE NEW CREATION

Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:


The above scripture says God has blessed us-the new creations- with all spiritual blessings in the heavenly places.


Why are all those blessings spiritual? They are spiritual because the needed to exist in a form that makes them storable in the heavely places( places in heaven).

"Why," you may ask,"were they stored in the heavenly places?"

The answer is found in the scripture below.

Matthew 6:19 Lay not up for yourselves treasures upon earth, where moth and rust doth corrupt, and where thieves break through and steal:

The answer is that they are sored in spiritual form in places in heaven for the purpose of preservation and safe keeping.


The BIG question is,"How do we transfer the blessings from the heaven places to the earthly places?"

The answer can be found in the scripture below:

Proverbs 12:14 A man shall be satisfied with good by the fruit of his mouth: and the recompence of a man's hands shall be rendered unto him.


So, the answer is this: by the confessions of your lips.
Confess every blessed day and frequently as possible that you have been blessed with every spiritual Blessing and that you are already enjoying them.That is faith. Faith calleth those things which be not as though they were.


Romans 4:17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

onlyfacts:
In the symbolic book of Revelation, Satan is described as the “great fiery-colored dragon, with seven heads and ten horns,” having a tail that draws “a third of the stars of heaven” after him.(Re 12:3, 4)

Questions for you, has there ever bean any animal alive or dead with SEVEN HEADS and TEN HORNS on it before? Have there been any animal whose TAIL can reach the STARS in heaven and DRAG down to the earth 33% of the STARS TO EARTH (* A Star is as big as the Sun)? Such animal never existed and will never exist. That dragon simply means satan as the Bible said.

Don't draw direct analogy from the books of Revelation and Genesis. Rev. 1:1-3 clearly shows that it's content were presented in SIGNS and not Literally like in genesis account. The genesis account was a real serpent but unlike the usually serpents this one spoke because it was possessed by Satan.

You still failed to see my point. I wonder why. Dragons existed. Scientist have seen their fossils. Bible uses the animal dragon is a symbolic representation. This is Bible announcing that prehistoric animal exist. There is something called inference in comprehension. Even though the book of Revelation talks of dragon with seven heads, the inference is that a dragon with one head once existed.

This is purely an issue of comprehension.

For the records, I understand the symbolism in the book of Revelation , but it isn't my focus in this thread.

I have you to thank, not withstanding, for pointing out that the word dragon exist in the book of Revelation only. I will remove the scriptural reference in deutoronoy. Apart from that intention of my post remains valid.

onlyfacts:
I was only helping you to see what the Bible teaches about dragon. I like your passion and zeal for the word of God but at the same time let's pass the right information. I can help with that too.

God bless you.

It's sad that you don't get what I am saying.

What John saw in his vision was a dragon or an animal that is not of our time even though in that vision it represents the devil.

The usage of the word dragon in the Bible is am implicit admission that prehistoric animal exist.

John could have seen a serpent( another animal used to represent the devil).

What John saw his vision was as animal not belonging to our time which he called dragon. It is left to the reader to realise that according to that vision's interpretation, the dragon represents the Devil.

onlyfacts:
At the highlighted above, means you are speaking your own thoughts and not exactly what's in the Bible.

And for the other scriptures you quoted for dragons, PLEASE CHANGE YOUR BIBLE TRANSLATION or USE A FREE ONLINE BIBLE, you will see a clear difference. Dragon doesn't appear there, use other standard translations to compare.

Dragon occurs 13 times in the Bible but only in the highly symbolic book of Revelation, and it represents Satan the Devil.

Look the book of Revelation is a book with a lot of symbolism. The use of the word dragon in it is an example of symbolism. True very true. The word dragon was used because it represent an animal that does not belong to our time whether symbolism or not.

onlyfacts:
Where did you ever read God got lonely? He was ALONE before creation had a beginning.​(Ps 90:1, 2; 1Ti 1:17.) Nowhere does it say God got lonely and he got bored, rather God created all things for his honor and pleasure(Re 4:11)

And dragons mentioned in the bible are symbolic creatures, it was never to be understood as a real animal but in its symbolic sense as the Devil. (Re 12:7-9)

I did not read it anywhere. I knew by revelation. If you are not comfortable with that or find it unacceptable it is alright by me.

In it's usage in the bible, the word dragon
refers to an animal not belonging to our time. See below.



Deuteronomy 32:33 Their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps. Nehemiah

2:13 And I went out by night by the gate of the valley, even before the dragon well, and to the dung port, and viewed the walls of Jerusalem, which were broken down, and the gates thereof were consumed with fire.

Job 30:29 I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls.

Psalms 44:19 Though thou hast sore broken us in the place of dragons, and covered us with the shadow of death.

Psalms 74:13 Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters.

Psalms 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

Psalms 148:7 Praise the LORD from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps:

Isaiah 13:22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

Isaiah 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

Isaiah 34:13 And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls.

Isaiah 35:7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.

Isaiah 43:20 The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.

Isaiah 51:9 Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?

Jeremiah 9:11 And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.

Jeremiah 10:22 Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.

Jeremiah 14:6 And the wild asses did stand in the high places, they snuffed up the wind like dragons; their eyes did fail, because there was no grass. Jeremiah

49:33 And Hazor shall be a dwelling for dragons, and a desolation for ever: there shall no man abide there, nor any son of man dwell in it.

Jeremiah 51:34 Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.

Jeremiah 51:37 And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.

Ezekiel 29:3 Speak, and say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, Pharaoh king of Egypt, the great dragon that lieth in the midst of his rivers, which hath said, My river is mine own, and I have made it for myself.

Micah 1:8 Therefore I will wail and howl, I will go stripped and naked: I will make a wailing like the dragons, and mourning as the owls.

Malachi 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

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LordReed:
What's so difficult in understanding that I don't believe? Beats me.

Do you know what we call people who torture others because they were born differently? Evil or demented, or demented evil, take your pick.

You have made your choice. You should live with the consequences. Talk of pot talking back at the Potter. I am done talking with you.

LordReed:
And just like I responded over there, you make your god sound like a lunatic more and more.

If your god who you say created the human race due to loneliness is going to torture people for being born the wrong way then he should take the blame.

Maybe something or someone should torture your god to see how he likes it.

The socks is on the other foot! This is not really about him sending people to hell, but about him frantically trying to save them from it. To create the existing offer of salvation it cost him his only begotten son. If you have kids you will know what that means. It is incredibly easy to accept Jesus as Lord and savior. It beats me why people won't