₦airaland Forum

and of course no one reads previous replies before posting. . .


it is already possible for states to own their own distribution and indeed generation apparatus. . . there's a process that has to be followed that's all, and i can promise you, jonathan is not going to change the process, the statement he made was an appeal to emotions, when he asks the minister of state how far, they'll explain what's on ground to him and he'll hold his tongue. . .c'est fini

omo. . .i don begin dey find out if it is possible for me too watch the thing live on the internet o. . .i no fit wait make boys come paste link here. . .i've got it bad. . .

Why do you want to change your ip address?


It isn't hard and telling you wont cost me anything but on the off-chance you want to do something dodgy or constitute a nuisance, i'm not telling you straight up, if you dont feel like answering, no worries. . . Someone else might decide to help you. Like i said it's pretty easy sha!

You should use a deep cycle battery, i'm guessing the one you used wasn't a deep cycle battery, one costs about 55grand, dont know any brand names, if you're near onipanu you can check 'dandy o' they're battery specialists so they just might have deep cycle batteries and they have a good reputation, If the charger on your inverter is not properly designed it could also cause battery probs in future, but since it's just 3 months i'm sure u're using a 'normal' battery

7-point agenda for Goodluck Jonathan

By Tolu Ogunlesi

May 16, 2010 01:20AMT

Let me be candid. As much as I admire you, Mr. President, for your good fortune, and statesmanlike mien, and as much as I am intrigued by the remarkable nature of your rise to the Presidency, I am sometimes tempted to think the worst – that you don’t have much to offer Nigeria. That nagging voice of doubt tells me that you are only more of the same.

Struggling to be heard amidst the din of that negative voice is another; a smaller, but more reasonable voice, insisting that you can make a huge difference; that you can be to Nigerians what Barack Obama was (and I daresay still is) to millions of Americans: one more reason to believe in our country, at a time when cynicism is the new enthusiasm.

I have made a decision to listen to the smaller voice, and am therefore more than willing to give you the benefit of doubt.

Tied to that ‘benefit’, however, are words of advice, obviously unsolicited, but wholeheartedly and genuinely offered - a ‘7-point agenda’ for you to aspire to live by:

1. Vacancy: Radical reformers! – One thing former President Obasanjo will always be credited for is the vibrancy of government agencies under his watch – NAFDAC, EFCC, NCC, BPE, CBN, etc. Baba sought the finest talent, wherever they existed, employed them, empowered them, and allowed them to shine. That’s how we came to know of Dora Akunyili and Ngozi Okonjo-Iweala and Oby Ezekwesili and Nuhu Ribadu.

Stick to that winning formula. It paid off handsomely for Obasanjo; sadly,Yar’Adua somehow never quite managed to pull it off.

2. Surprise, surprise. The greatest failing of our leaders is that they have lost the capacity to surprise us. They are so damn predictable – throwing sirens and pot-bellies around, closing down airports because they are VIPs, generally acting like they are doing the electorate a favour, spending all their time fighting real and imagined opponents, Surprise us Mr. Prez. Don’t take yourself too seriously. Life is short. Power is transient. Transparency and accessibility are key. How about a weekly unscripted 30-minute television and radio address to Nigerians,to establish a visceral connection between the governer and the governed. Every week tell us in unambiguous, cliché-free English what concrete steps you have taken over previous week to make Nigeria a better place. For our self-esteem and our morale Nigerians need a President who’s not only performing, but also seen to be performing.

3. Tame the Dame. Let your wife know that it’ll no longer be business as usual. We don’t need another Turai or Maryam (or ‘Mariam’,for that matter!) in this country. Tell Patience not to bother calling any meetings of Nigerian, or African, first ladies. Tell her to jettison any plans to launch a pet project. We’ve had enough. Let her use her clout to support already existing projects, especially private sector ones. There are orphanages and women shelters and cancer foundations all over the country. Let the first lady support them wholeheartedly, not compete with them for attention!

4. And those gallivanting Governors. Politely but very firmly put them in their place. It’s very annoying to see a bunch of governors – emblems of unadulterated mediocrity – strutting the land in the name of a ‘Governors’ Forum’ and portraying themselves as ‘power brokers’. Let them know that their constitutional and moral responsibility is to provide good governance in their states, not run a purposeless Governors Forum or turn Abuja into a holiday resort. And while you’re at it kindly put an end to those jamborees a.k.a ‘state visits’ on which those same governors squander public funds to take you on painstakingly packaged ‘sightseeing’ trips around their capitals, and make you commission white elephant projects. Step away from the sanitised, festooned paths. Pay unscheduled visits. Allow yourself to come face to face with the poverty and want that have blighted the land.

5. Click ‘n flip. Obasanjo boasted that he never did it (which is probably why he had not the slightest idea how much his 3rd term agenda riled Nigerians). Yar’Adua may have had no energy to do it (and Turai evidently didn’t). But you must. It is imperative that you pay attention to what Nigerians are saying – online and in the newspapers. We are a garrulous lot, in love with the sound of our own voices, but you can’t afford to not listen to us. Never depend on aides to feed you second-hand. (Need I ask you to make www.234next.com the default homepage on the presidential Blackberry’s browser?)

6. Show us your friends, : the legacies of Obasanjo and Yar’Adua will forever be tainted by the transparently shady characters they surrounded themselves with – the Andy Ubas and James Iboris and Michael Aondoakaas to name a few. Keeping those kind of people around you is the fastest and surest way to self-destruct.

7. Tune the talk. I listened to your inaugural address as President, and was disappointed by the surfeit of platitudes therein.

I desperately hoped to see you break free from the prepared speech and speak to Nigerians, ‘man to man and woman’. I want you to look us in the face as a nation and tell us something inspiring. True, you are no Obama,and will never be, but I think you can learn a lot from paying attention to the American. Tired speeches are a hallmark of tired thinking. Hire new speechwriters, try out a teleprompter; and endeavour to speak more from the heart.

ziyaun:
thx a lot for the info.very informative thread here u guys,kudos.

ajanlekoko's right o, even with the work experience, make sure you're talking to people here before you think of coming back. . .the sector is not making sense at all. . .

[quote author=paddy_lo link=topic=445923.msg6042245#msg6042245 date=1273946337]Isnt this a kind of chicken and egg situation?[/quote]i was discussing with a very very senior colleague and he used the exact same phrase. . .lol

We dont pay enough for electricity. . so foriegn companies are not incentivized to come in

and if they are incentivized to come in. . Then the cost of electricity will be too much to afford

that's the problem, what the senior colleague said was, do nigerians start paying sensible prices before or after the electricity problem is solved? that's why MYTO was put in place, the tariff is being increased little by little and eventually we'll get to the stage where we'll be paying enough, but now, what we paying isn't even up to what it costs to generate the electricity!

I believe that the Govt can deregulate the price of power.  .
but it can also help the companies by giving them tax breaks.  .or cheap funding(1%) to build power plants

the same guy was like what government is trying to avoid is acquiring sovereign debt, the government simply does not have enough money to fund power in nigeria and of course we both know why we cant access private money

I know its not the same,but Foreign telecomms companies have spent close to $18billion since 2000 to roll out services in nigeria
If we can get something like that in the power sector,it should be a win win

Perhaps they can use prepaid meters,and people can buy what they can afford upfront

the foreign companies spent that much cos they know they'd be able to recoup their costs, they were able to set the tariffs(to an extent), but in the electricity sector, it's essentially government that sets the tariffs(through the NERC) and all the crooks that we have as leaders are more interested in re-election than solving the problems

the same day i was talking with the guy that told me all this stuff(yep he had something to do with MYTO) another senior colleague said and i quote 'until we have a president that's not interested in re-election we're not going to have light in nigeria'.

P.S.
yes i like to listen to people discuss power in nigeria

first and foremost i would like to state that i understand the president of any country is a busy man and will have to contend with a wide variety of topics most of which he has never had any formal trainiing in eg. agric, econs, etc

that said, GJ sold you all a pup, he was just being a politician and playing to the gallery, i wouldn't go as far as calling him a liar though, misguided and misinformed is more like it. He obviously doesn't know much about the power sector.

what he referred to is called captive generation, and is beyond the scope of the minister of power(not to mention the minister of state) it falls within the purview of the NERC, there are already conditions that must be met conditions which are designed to deter unserious individuals from rushing into the distribution business, the governors would know this if they had employed people that actually know what's going on,for crying out loud. Oh and all this was sorted out before yar adua came in.

some of the conditions the states that want to indulge in captive generation will have to meet

1. They will have to fund the detaching of their states from the national grid: as some of you will know, we have various distribution zones, for instance, niger abuja and some parts of nasarawa all belong to the same zone(dont know if there are other members), so if niger wants to employ captive generation(i'll get to niger's case later) it would have to ensure that it is seperated from the national grid, so that the power it generates isn't fed to abuja and nasarawa, and for a system that wasn't designed with captive generation in mind that'll cost a lot of money.

2.there'll have to be a referendum in the state; the residents of the state have to vote that they want to be of grid so the FG wont be blamed for any future happenings

3. the state house passes a resolution etc

these are the ones i can remember now sha.

Like i pasted on the thread about states coming together to buy the distribution companies, if we get what we want(in this case, each state supplying it's own power) the politics will become something else, state house of reps will now be deciding which areas should get light or not(woe betide whichever areas their ex-girlfriends and political foes reside in. . .lol)

now on to sundry issues
@edoyad
even if there was captive generation, niger state wouldn't get any captive power because they dont won any power plants (shiroro, jebba and kainji were all built with FG money), and the problem in niger state is that it's distribution network is crap, most of the distribution transformers there are seriously overloaded, trust me i know. . .



@gbawe

Regardless of corruption , most States would probably secure minimally acceptable power supply for citizens if they are allowed to generate and distribute their own power. States like Lagos are already very adept at deploying PPP (private-public-partnership) effectively . If allowed to distribute their own power I would bet that Fashola would not inaugurate an unwieldy and uneccesarily bureaucratic State-owned distribution entity that would waste more time and money while achieving nothing .  He would simply deploy experienced International power sector giants to design and implement a cohesive , integrated and modular power plan that allows for future tweaks and expansion. Jonathan's initiative is a step in the right direction because we have to understand that some States have Generation and distribution challenges . States can already generate power but they cannot distribute it. Allowing them to distribute power means that serious States move closer to controlling the pace of their own development.

Remember also that Jonathan does not have much time for grandiose schemes that will have little impact in the next few months and may be abrogated if a new man takes charge . He must impress in a short while. Jonathan is no fool. He will be aware that some IPP's currently exist that are not in use because of distribution issues. He will reason that if States are allowed to distribute we may see some of these IPP's add appreciable power to the grid before the end of the year . Who will then be looking Good(luck) ?

i like the way you see issues, we need pple like you in the power sector, where i have a problem is how you generalise, there is no IPP that is not in use.

A state like lagos would be hard pressed to build enough power stations to supply it's load, lagos will require well over 2500MW(i'm being very careful in naming numbers here so) at roughly 1$(that's optimistic) per kwh how much would that cost? the present cost of electricity would more than quadruple. part of what's killing nigeria is how much we pay for electricity, we dont pay enough(that's why foreign companies aren't coming to build power stations now)

@vigasimple

Very well overdue.

Let me break it down. Nigeria requires about 50,000mw of electricity. we have 36 states/787 local govt.

50,000mw divided by 36 =  1400mw approx, if they build 60mw per month, each state will complete it in 24months

50,000mw divided by 787 = 64mw per each local govt, again if they build about 3mw every month , they will do it in 24 months.

check out  www.nigeriansforsuperenergy.com   to see what is possible if we put our minds to it.

Good luck to Nigeria if Goodluck Jonathan has seen the light

i'm sorry, i need to ask you where(in heaven, on earth or even hell sef) you saw a 60MW station built in a month? and you didn't put any prices in your post, please could you tell me how much your plan would cost?

This is the second interview i'm reading and i must say my respect for him(the boy is good) has increased, these are the kind of leaders we need in nigeria, not the one's that stoke the fires of hatred

how're you now?. . .anything for the boys?

i'm not looking for kunbee. . .

i hope they dont pull that prison break stunt sha. . .where scofield died in the last episode and they used the feature movie to tell us how he died.

there's a post missing, i didn't know even mod's posts could get junked by the almighty spambot. . .lol

@chiogo
happy birthday

This is a simple case of people saying stuff and not realising that it(the stuff said) could have more than one meaning. . .

@theamaka
if you were joking, you could and should have gone about it a different way.

@ujujoan
u weren't the other loudmouth she was refering to, even though you tried to pour oil on the fire. . .lol

@spikey
she's young, she hasn't got to the stage of experiencing life at several wtf's per second, now that all this is over how about you and i kiss and make-up?

@eldee
they are in new york

@nearest
remember the president was evacuated from the UN and it was on the way to join her that hassan was attacked and eventually killed, killed, there hasn't been anything to indicate they left the base now apart from when the president went to see jack, plus the rescue op to retrieve hassan was run from the base not so?. . .

oyb:
DC for voltage distribuition? dude dc as a means of power distribution is more or less dead

tesla and edison fought that battle long ago

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Currents

i think what might have brought that idea to his(pharyn) mind was the fact that most electronic devices use dc rather than ac. . .let me read the wikipedia article sha, it wasn't until you pasted it i realised what he meant


@ajanlekoko
that's true sha, it would seem a b.sc is the only option if he wants formal qualifications

Kai, bauer has gone mad, i pity logan and anyone else that gets in his way,

Chloe has the scent, i just hope nothing happens to her o

@nearest
for jack to get to logan, he might have to let himself be taken o, btw it's logan's reputation you're wondering about, if jack gets him outside the UN, his reputation will be the least of his worries

by the way logan is not at the UN, i think they are still at the army(or is it airforce) base

AjanleKoko:
^^
Maybe you should consider the poster getting another Bsc in electrical engineering.

i thought about the same thing, but knowing that he already spent 6+(?) years in school, i just didn't want to be the one to suggest that idea

but sebi they say the unit measure of desire is sacrifice. . . but personally, i wouldn't consider starting again o, na so love dey do person?

@pharyn
could you talk a bit more about your interests in EE? cos there are some fields in EE like electronics(esp using microcontrollers and ish) that you could get into as a hobby and still make money from

Foreign Lenders Shun Independent Power Projects
By Ejiofor Alike, 05.11.2010

Inability of some private entities granted licences for Independent Power Plants (IPPs) to obtain loans from international lending institutions has stalled the take-off of the power projects.
THISDAY investigations revealed that foreign lenders are scared of supporting the IPPs owing to the absence of constitutionally recognised leadership, as provided for in the Electric Power Sector Reform Act of 2005 that established the regulatory agency.


The former Chairman of the Nigerian Electricity Regulatory Commission (NERC), Dr. Ransome Owan, and his six commissioners were in 2009 removed from office over alleged fraudulent acts. They are currently facing trial before an Abuja Federal High Court and have also challenged their alleged removal in another court.
Thirteen out of the 34 registered IPPs are said to have been stalled owing to financial constraints, non-availability of gas and other issues.
But worried by the delay in their take-off, NERC has given a marching order to the entities that were granted the IPP licences to live up to their expectations or risk sanctions.
Assistant General Manager in Charge of Media and Public Relations at NERC, Mr. Patrick Ayendi, confirmed to THISDAY that the agency had written to the IPPs on the need to meet their milestones or face sanction.


The 21 IPPs that are either operational, close to inauguration or have just been licensed, according to the list made available to THISDAY include three Rivers State Government-owned IPPs, which operate as First Independent Power Company at Eleme, Omoku and Trans-Amadi; Shell Petroleum Development Company Limited at Port Harcourt; Nigerian Agip Oil Company Ltd at Okpai in Delta State; Minaj Holding Ltd, a coal-fired plant at Enugu; Ibom Power Limited and Notore Power Limited.
Others include DIL Power; Ewekoro Power Limited; two IPPs by Ikorodu Industrial Power Limited; two IPPs by GET Power Projects Limited at Tinapa in Calabar and Iganmu in Lagos; Tower Power Utility Limited; Coronation Power & Gas Limited; Wedotebary Nigeria Limited, AES Nigeria Barge Limited; NESCO Limited; Geometric Power Limited and Aba Power Limited.


Following the sack of the seven NERC officers, the late President Umaru Musa Yar’Adua had approved the appointment of the Secretary to NERC, Mr Imamudeen Talba, as administrator to oversee the affairs of the commission pending the resolution of the court cases.
THISDAY gathered that acting on the advice of their local consultants, foreign lenders have refused to support IPP projects that require international funding on the grounds that the position of administrator is alien to NERC Act and that any future administration might not honour agreement entered into by the current NERC leadership and the independent power operators.
“The funding of our project is structured in two ways – local funding from the Nigerian banks and international funding from foreign lenders. We have received the support of the local banks. But when we approached the foreign lenders, they contacted their local consultants here in Nigeria for advice.


"These consultants told them that the NERC leadership that is supposed to approve certain things for us is not recognised by the Nigerian law and that any government that comes in the future might cancel such approvals, thereby putting their investment at risk. This made these people to be scared and that is why some of these projects have been stalled,” said a NERC official who craved anonymity.
Section 40 (9) of the Electric Power Sector Act of 2005 stipulates that “whenever the office of chairman or vice-chairman falls vacant, or on the death of the chairman or vice-chairman, the President shall, within three weeks, select another commissioner to fill the vacancy under section 39.”
Based on this provision, THISDAY gathered that the foreign investors are concerned that project agreements endorsed by the administrator might not be legally binding since his position is “alien” to NERC Act.


Section 39 of the Act provides: “Subject to section 40 (6), on the death of, or vacation of office by a commissioner, the President shall nominate a candidate to fill the vacancy and submit that nomination to the senate, within one month, in accordance with section 34.”
However, Senior Manager in Charge of Public Affairs at Geometric Power Limited, operators of Aba Power Plant, Mr. Oseloka Zikora, who spoke on the issue was confident that with the intervention of President Goodluck Jonathan and the Governor of the Central Bank of Nigeria (CBN), Mallam Sanusi Lamido Sanusi, the issue of funding power projects would soon be resolved.


“If we can get real sector funding internally as CBN and the President are planning to do, at good rate, it is as good as getting international lending. That is not to say that foreign lenders are not needed because the kind of money required in the power sector is beyond what the local banks can afford to provide,” he said.
THISDAY had exclusively reported that NERC was likely to revoke the IPPs licences granted between August 24, 2006 and November 2007 to generate between 12.5mw and 2,800mw of electricity to the national grid owing to the delay in their take-off.
It was also learnt that only a few projects had reached advanced stages, while some licensees are yet to even secure site for the project. Others have not put physical structure on ground, indicating that they are not likely to meet the delivery target.


To ensure the success of the project, NERC was said to have set up a committee that monitors the extent of work done by licensees. Most of the licensees had attributed the lack of progress on the project to funding problems, low tariff structure and the fears that they might be unable to recoup their funds.
However, NERC was said to have been dissatisfied with the pace of work and might have resolved to withdraw licences of entities that have not made meaningful commitments since they obtained the IPP licences.


source

[quote author=tosinaded@ link=topic=444282.msg6026113#msg6026113 date=1273696569]wetin happen na, i almost died of boredom o

thank God we re back [/quote]lol, i'm guessing there was a problem(site was attacked, server crashed etc) and the site had to be restored from a backup, that explains the disappearance of everything posted after a certain time. . .sorta like a fresh start. . .lol

all na scam jo . . .it's the same way we have been begging for a development board since, first it was 20topics, then 50. . .next thing you know someone will tell you to go and find 100 topics, if you want one, go and raise 25billion to buy NL in IMHO

Kobojunkie:
That is NOT TRUE . . . .  Read the article

Governor Babatunde Fashola is shopping for N73.3 billion to build the proposed Lagos International Airport and the proposed Lekki-Ikoyi bridge.

The first phase of the airport, to be built in Lekki will cost N43.3 billion while the Lekki-Ikoyi bridge will gulp N30 billion. The two projects, P.M.NEWS gathered, will be undertaken under the Public-Private Partnership (PPP) initiative of the Lagos State Government.


According to the article, N43.3 billion is for the FIRST PHASE of the airport. Do you really expect a WHOLE AIRPORT to be built with just N43.3 billion? That amount is not even half of the federal budget for electricity( generator and generator maintainance cost) this year. Compare the amount to how much the recent addition to Heathrow was. Or are we saying this is a small cargo airport or something? See, more questions

Take a look at old samplings of costs

http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060122/news_1m22airport.html

http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/cheklapkok_new/

http://www.airport-int.com/article/the-designbuild-project-delivery-approach-for-airports.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuala_Lumpur_International_Airport

http://www.airport-technology.com/projects/doha/

Does it really matter how much the FG spent on that? I mean come on. We all know the FG has been incompetent for decades, but is that any reason why people should excuse what they see, or percieve as incompetence at the state level, especially when at the state level the money is likely coming directly from people's pockets now and not from the usual source(oil) that most people really have given up on?

I wish you would be more understanding of the fact that there is a difference between incompetence at the state level and at the federal level, especially when it comes to Lagos state. You can not longer compare the two. I believe a woman, featured in the "Welcome to Lagos" series aptly put it when she said since it is now a crime not to pay taxes, it makes sense that she demand answers as to how her tax money is being spent.

To be honest with you, I don't believe MMA is being used to capacity. I mean it is easy to say it is but I think until we consider Facts, we cannot be sure of that yet. According to the Federal Ministry of Aviation, MMA is in need of private investors, so I am not sure about that translating to it being  at capacity or over-utilized.

I am not pissed that someone has an opinion or sees things different from the way I do. So, again, why are you pissed that they do not see things YOUR WAY? I agree, and I think insults only make to ruin whatever points a person has to make as majority of the times, once I read the first insult, I am done considering that person's say. The person might as well not post anything at all as it will not be considered intelligent or rational once insults are included, in my book.

i've started and stopped this reply so many times that i think it'd actually be wiser for me to go to bed instead of posting and making a mistake. . .thanks for pointing the phase1 bit out, there's a link to a site for the airport somewhere on this thread i'll look for it and see if i can get any estimates from there. . .

Kunbee:
lol me and my friend went to a beer parlour, den a guy walked in and said now dat i don reach hia


Obo ma wa stranded
Obo ma ji
Obo ma sukun etc like 20 sentences and he didnt stutter


So since den it has been a slang between me and friend

obirin yi. . .o ti'n spoil abi?

Kobojunkie:
But most of the questions are valid questions . . . Come on, you may not want to see it, but they are.  I see a lot of insults and trying to SHOUT PEOPLE down for asking questions, and copying and posting stuff from online articles that many of us have already perused and still have questions of.

There was an old thread on this issue, that was debating a while back. I posted so many sources that indicated the government was actually investing BILLIONS of state money into thos but the 'troops' tried to insult me and so many others into believing that no penny of tax payer money is going into this same project. Turns out that is not true, because over and over, the state has revealed that it is funded parts of this same project.

To cut the story short, people want concrete answers to questions and conjectures and copy and paste ain't gonna cut it. If you do not have solid answers to the questions asked, it is ok to say so or just not say anything. But ramblings and twisters aren't answers. If anything, they produce more questions.

my problem in particular is the people that keep mouthing the airport is strictly for passenger purposes, did one of them address the point that it wasn't?

not to mention the retards that refuse to realise that the 73.3bn isn't for the airport alone, it's for the airport plus FTZ

or the retards screaming theft that refuse to realise that the airport costs less than the FG almost spent to construct a runway, and are now advising that LASG should upgrade MMA

or the ones that say MMA is under-utilised

what's there not to get pissed about? they came to a gunfight with knives, it's pure and simple(by this i'm not condoning insults o!)

Enjoyment1:
In fact, in the governorship debate in Lagos, Jimi Agbaje performed excellently well. What failed Jimi, was the party he joined the wrong party. As for cash for votes, all the parties were guilty of that fact.

that wasn't what i was out to prove but could it just be. . .that dear uncle jimi, is not a saint then?

Enjoyment1:
No where here that I can remember that anyone mentioned that, there was someone  better than Fashola, in these present dispensation. Maybe, Jimi Agbaje could have equalled this fit, but let him not be afraid of being probed. It will help him, for his 2nd term campaigne.

well we'll never know, one thing JA didn't have was the grassroots support though. . .i liked him, he paid uni students to wear his shirts(i think it was 20K or some similar amount sha). . .of course that doesnt speak for his integrity but who cares

Kobojunkie:
Childish much?  

You were not even able to answer decent direct and non-insult laden questions posed you yet you feel OK to come in to make the claims you have above? Come on dude. . . grow up and learn to debate without resorting to such childish attempts at WINNING when it is not about that.

what do you say about the people that keep asking the same questions over and over again, without rebutting the giving answers, or the ones giving chieftaincy titles and lectures on culture?

Enjoyment1:
Then, why is he afraid of being probed?

nowhere in my post did i mention fashola is a saint, or say that he shouldn't get probed, personally, i dont give a rat's arse if he's probed or not. . .i'm just against people that cant reason and instead resort to personal attacks and lousy arguments and then call it a sensible discussion.

Hardtalk:
I just wish so too, because Fashola's hands are not clean.

if you want someone clean, then elect the pope. . .when they elected fashola(i didn't vote o ) who were the other choices? tell me if we elected musiliu obanikoro we'd be having this discussion. . .[size=5pt](it'd be something along the lines of LASG seeking 73bn to build boys quarters for PDP secretariat)[/size]

of course he's not a saint. . .i dont even like the dude that much but i'll tell you this he's head and shoulders above all the closest contenders. . .and that's coming from a non-lagosian(who neither lives nor works in lagos)

chamotex:
^^^^

[quote author=~Sissy~ link=topic=249630.msg6019286#msg6019286 date=1273275287]boo, happy weekend to you [/quote]@sissy
no need to go to the doctors, i can now confirm you are pregnant. . .yes chamo is that potent. . .

Pharyn:
I want to build a career in it. I am highly passionate about the use of DC in house wiring.

How can I enter into the elect/elect engineering profession?
Thanks

that's a hobby, not career stuff. . .you could look into getting a PGD, dont know much about it, apart from the fact that non engineering students have to get one before they can proceed to an Msc, and then there are other things diplomas in electronics and stuff that you could get that'll improve your chances. . .also can you program?

but first i think you need to think really hard before you choose to try and build a career in electrical engineering

just do it. . .if you're thinking he could start to misbehave along the line simply cos you made the first move. . .nahhhh

just make sure you put him on check anytime he does something silly. . .let his arse know you wont stand for crap, even though you like him <----that's the important part, er'thing about you should tell him i like you, but i'm not going to let you treat me however you like

best of luck[size=4pt]i hope i dont regret this in future[/size]

Darthmaul:
I hate jack bauer, does he think he is d smartest man in america, bringin down anoda presido haba. Is dis not d same thing Almeida did in s7. Jack bauer na fool, i second d motion dat his granddaughter be killed dat will serve him rite. naughty person jackkyboy

calm down now, na just TV o. . .