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EducationOAU DSA Suspends All Religious Activities In Halls Of Residence (PICS) by Newnas(op): 11:47pm On Jun 04, 2017
The Obafemi Awolowo University Department of Student Affairs (OAU DSA) today 4th of June 2017 made a special release stating that all religious activities should be suspended in the halls of residence.
The release also commanded all students to either pray in their rooms or go to the religious ground.

The "Special Release" which was all in upper case read thus:

"This is to bring to the attention of all students that all religious activities is hereby suspended in halls of residence until further notice.

Any student that fails to comply will face immediate disciplinary action which may include revocation of studentship and expulsion.
Students are advised to pray in their individual rooms or move to the religious centre"


The DSA has wasted no time in executing this new order. There are reports that some members of the DSA and school security went to the two major hall mosques (Awolowo hall mosque and Fajuyi hall mosque) and destroyed all the temporary structures in it after sending the Students out of them.

The religious centre is fifteen to twenty minutes walk from the 'Awo' hall which is the most populated hall of residence on campus. Taking such a walk five times daily might be more of difficulty than ease for most Muslim students and many Muslim students have seen it as an attempt to stop them from observing their daily prayers.

However, there have been no reports of similar demolitions in any of the several 'hall' secretariats allocated the Christian fellowships.

It should be remembered that G.O Akinola, the Dean of the DSA has not been the best friend of the Muslim students since her arrival in office.
She once called the hall mosques a brothel.Could this be a 'diplomatic' step she is taking to eliminate those "brothels" from the school.

There have been claims and accusations of a 'christianization' agenda going on in the school, with the faculty of pharmacy not having any Muslim lecturer and many departments having just one or two Muslim lecturers.


Pics attached for further details.

IslamRe: Do Not Call A Believer Munafiq Except With Clear Proof by Newnas(op): 11:03am On Jun 03, 2017
You should be going from street to street shouting:

"e wa ra ignoransi ooo... iginoransi gbigbona wa ooo"

Your ignorance is beyond par.

As for those who died before this pledge, let me tell you what Allah says regarding them:


Among the believers are men who have been true to their covenant with Allah [i.e. they have gone out for Jihad (holy fighting), and showed not their backs to the disbelievers], of them some have fulfilled their obligations (i.e. have been martyred), and some of them are still waiting, but they have never changed [i.e. they never proved treacherous to their covenant which they concluded with Allah] in the least.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

The way you flaunt your ignorance is very laughable.
IslamRe: Do Not Call A Believer Munafiq Except With Clear Proof by Newnas(op): 10:55am On Jun 03, 2017
AlBaqir:
Oh that was a big mistake and mixed up on my part, obviously "Mina" is different from "min" which my mind was always clearly at. Thanks a lot for that correction.

However, you are not save at all from that ayah. Tafsir Ibn Kathir clearly pointed out the verse was only referencing, "(The foremost Muhajirin and Ansar) are those who conducted the pledge of Ar-Ridwan in the year of Hudaybiyyah"

www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1596&Itemid=64

# Many have died before this pledge, many came after it who were Sahabah. And this ayah uniquely stressed a condition of righteousness. The moment you deviate from that righteous deeds and assumed Bid'ah (as many Sahabah later did), then automatically, you are no longer being pleased with by Allah.

# Furthermore, many Sahabah who participated in this pledge violated their pledge after the demise of Nabi by running into Bid'ah and invented series of it. I have schooled you severally on this. In Sahih Bukhari, one of them, Bara'a Ibn Azib was praised to have been among those who pledged at the tree whereupon with heavy heart respond: "you (people) do not know what we have invented after him (the prophet)".

# Verse 101, then destroy you totally. It talks about the same people of Madina and its environ that there were hardened criminals (Munafiqun) whom even Nabi did not know they were Munafiqun. Yet you are shamelessly telling us those were not counted among the Sahabah?!

Again thanks for that correction. I appreciate it.
AlBaqir, you have now stamped your ignorance and laminated it.

min is the same thing as Mina, the only difference is that min is changed to Mina when it is followed by sukoon (silent vowel) to avoid meeting of two sukoon. Min and Mina have absolutely no difference as far as meaning is concerned, they are the same word.
SubhanaLLaah, your ignorance and arrogance is rib cracking.

Secondly, most of those who witnessed the pledge of hudaybiyyah were still alive after the death of the messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam hudaybiyah is just a few years before the demise of the Prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam.

Abu Bakr, Omar, Uthman, Ali and many multitudes that you hate and insult were members of that pledge.

Allah knows what has been, will be and what would have been if what had been hadn't been.

If they would really return to apostasy after the Prophet's death as you claim, Allah wouldn't have left that verse for us to read till the day of qiyamah.

Allah knew that Abu Lahab would never accept Islam and would die on disbelief so he revealed a chapter to curse him and that chapter will remain till the hour.

So, this your claim is evil rather it means that you are accusing Allah of ignorance. Of course it's part of shia creed to accuse Allah of not knowing the implications of his actions, exalted be Allah above your evil tongues. This aqeedah of 'badaa'ah' is well documented in your books.

As for the verse about munafiq in Madina and it's environs.

That was before the personalities of the hypocrites were revealed to the Messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam, but before his death he mentioned the names of each hypocrite to his companions rodiyaLLaahu anhum. So, the name of all hypocrites were known to his companions and household Alyhimussalam.

Also, If the companions rodiyaLLaahu anhum that Allah praised in the Quran could return to apostasy, the household members that you claim to love have more right to be doubted because the same reason you are doubting those also apply to these.

Then, this your creed will implies calling all the companions and household disbelievers, hypocrites and 'Slys' because if indeed those companions rodiyaLLaahu anhum reverted to disbelief and were hypocrites the rightly guided ones should have been led by Ali (whom you claim to be the heir to caliphate) to fight them even with his last drop of blood and sweat.
Can you not see how Abu Bakr fought those who refused to give zakah, that's uprightness and sincerity.
AgricultureRe: Pictures: My Snail Farm by Newnas(m): 7:04am On Jun 03, 2017
please who has Achatina Achatina for sale?
How much is a kg and how much will ship it to Osun State.
IslamRe: Do Not Call A Believer Munafiq Except With Clear Proof by Newnas(op): 6:42am On Jun 03, 2017
^^Allahu Akbar!!!

This is a very splendid display of ignorance from AlBaqir,

'mina' in that verse is bayaaniyyah, meaning that it is for explanation.

so the words muhaajiroon (migrants from makkah) and ansaar (helpers of madinah) explain what is intended by assaabiqoon alawwaloon (first forerunners).

As Allah says:

Surah Al-Isra, Verse 82:
وَنُنَزِّلُ مِنَ الْقُرْآنِ مَا هُوَ شِفَاءٌ وَرَحْمَةٌ لِّلْمُؤْمِنِينَ وَلَا يَزِيدُ الظَّالِمِينَ إِلَّا خَسَارًا

And We send down from the Quran that which is a healing and a mercy to those who believe (in Islamic Monotheism and act on it), and it increases the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers) nothing but loss.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

going by your deviant interpretation of the verse, not all of the Quran is healing and cure because Allah says mina alQuran.

Rather it is explaining what is a healing and cure amongst what Allah has sent down because Allah sends many things down such as the rain of Nuh etc.

First you displayed ignorance of sarf (Arabic morphology), now you are displaying ignorance of nahw (Arabic syntax) and before that you displayed ignorance of hadith (by misusing terms).

The earlier you shut up your mouth and repent the better for you.
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Newnas(m): 6:17am On Jun 03, 2017
obviously you have made no point. But you just like to talk last.
IslamRe: Do Not Call A Believer Munafiq Except With Clear Proof by Newnas(op): 5:15am On Jun 03, 2017
I told you that your words are too foul, instead of repenting, you tried to justify your wronging.

I am not a foul person, you have a rich record of foul language. "dotard", "troglodyte", you remember those words? I never heard of them till I met you. If I use them on nairaland it's only for you because the one who kindled the fire of evil should be burnt by it.

Surah Fatir, Verse 43:


(They took to flight because of their) arrogance in the land and their plotting of evil. But the evil plot encompasses only him who makes it. Then, can they expect anything (else), but the Sunnah (way of dealing) of the peoples of old? So no change will you find in Allah's Sunnah (way of dealing), and no turning off will you find in Allah's Sunnah (way of dealing).
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran
IslamRe: Do Not Call A Believer Munafiq Except With Clear Proof by Newnas(op): 5:06am On Jun 03, 2017
Well, according to the Noble Book of Allah this your definition has no deserving abode than the latrine.

Allah says:

Surah At-Taubah, Verse 100:

And the first to embrace Islam of the Muhajirun (those who migrated from Makkah to Al-Madinah) and the Ansar (the citizens of Al-Madinah who helped and gave aid to the Muhajirun) and also those who followed them exactly (in Faith). Allah is well-pleased with them as they are well-pleased with Him. He has prepared for them Gardens under which rivers flow (Paradise), to dwell therein forever. That is the supreme success.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Sahabah rodiyaLLaahu anhum are all pious believers.

There's nothing beneficial in all you have written talk less of being ''jaw breaking", you are deluded, arrogant and adamant.
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Newnas(m): 4:31am On Jun 03, 2017
Demmzy15:
It was narrated that Abu Abdullah said: No infant is born but a certain Satan is in his presence. If Allah knew that he would be of our Shiia, He protects him from that Satan, if he wouldn't be of our Shiia, Satan sticks his finger in his anus, thus becomes a catamite, If it was [ the infant ] a female, he sticks his finger in her vagina, thus becomes a LovePeddler. Allah then afterwards clear what He desire or affirm, for with Him is the book of Knowledge." [Tafseer al-Ayyashi, p. 218 , Bihaar al-Anwaar, vol.2 p. 1319 ,Tafseer al-Burhaan, vol. 2, p. 300 ]
JazaakaLLaahu khayraa my brother. Shia sheikhs are very shameless fabricators.

@AlBaqir, it's not a matter of what you believe, it's a matter of what your shia sheikhs fabricated. When you opened the discussion, you based it on Sunni hadith vs shia hadith fabrications. We all know you are a liar, in fact lying is a major sign of taqwa in your misguided and misguiding religion.

As for the hadith in bukharee, there are verses of the Quran that prove that Shaitan disturbs even the prophets Alyhimussalam in worldly matters but Allah protects them against being attacked in matters of religion, hereafter and prophethood.

Surah Al-Qasas, Verse 15:

And he entered the city at a time of unawareness of its people, and he found there two men fighting, - one of his party (his religion - from the Children of Israel), and the other of his foes. The man of his (own) party asked him for help against his foe, so Musa (Moses) struck him with his fist and killed him. He said: "This is of Shaitan's (Satan) doing, verily, he is a plain misleading enemy."
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Surah Sad, Verse 41:

And remember Our slave Ayub (Job), when he invoked his Lord (saying): "Verily! Shaitan (Satan) has touched me with distress (by losing my health) and torment (by losing my wealth)!
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

So, the magic that struck Prophet Muhammad alyhissolaat wassalaam only affected his body not the message of prophethood. Being harmed by evil people is a test for the believers.

Even Shaitan had a portion in the prophet's heart, that portion was removed in the night of israa and miraaj as reported by Anas bn Malik and compiled by Imam Muslim in his soheeh.
IslamRe: Do Not Call A Believer Munafiq Except With Clear Proof by Newnas(op): 9:58pm On Jun 02, 2017
O Allah please guide this deviant to the right path.

This is a very unscholarly statement. AlBaqir, you need ruqyah!

The word Muslim will refer to a lesser level of believe if used in together with Eeman in a sentence. But if it's used alone, it refers to all believers.
to show your error, Allah commanded us not to die except as Muslims, does this mean that we should not improve our Eeman to the level of mumin and Muhsin?!

obviously no. Rather the words Muslim, mumin and Muhsin are synonymous when used separately but are not when used together, even small boys in i'daadiyah know this.

Notes: see how you are jumping from one flimsy point of argument to another line of defense, it only shows that you acknowledge the weakness of all your claims that you refuse to buttress.

Also, Avoid boringly long copy and paste, it doesn't freak the learned.
IslamRe: Do Not Call A Believer Munafiq Except With Clear Proof by Newnas(op): 9:44pm On Jun 02, 2017
That shia hadith you mentioned above is the most laughable and ridiculous part of the whole crap you wrote.
Anyone who has knowledge and taqwa will never base his religion on such chainless narration.

But since you are a shia, I wouldn't expect much bashfulness from you, after all your ancestors shamelessly fabricated narrations to support their misguidances.
IslamRe: Do Not Call A Believer Munafiq Except With Clear Proof by Newnas(op): 9:39pm On Jun 02, 2017
^^ So "Olodo Oshi" was also used by the Messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam.

It's a fact that people resort to insult when they run out of proof(s).

Yes, the messenger was using a collective noun alyhissolaat wassalaam. Since you are ignorant, I'll educate you. collective noun is called ismul jins (aljami) in arabic. Please try to start a sarf class before advertising your ignorance.

As for your claim regarding, Hudhayfah knowing eight people who will never enter Paradise. The prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam that said this to Hudhayfah is also the person who said that "Allah and the believers refuse to defer regarding you"(Soheehul Jami 23) and "if I would take a khaleel (close friend), it would be Abu Bakr" (Bukharee)

The hadiths on the virtues of Abu Bakr are mutawatir, why don't you accept them.


The messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam did many things to show his love and respect for Abu Bakr, Omar and Uthman and Ali rodiyaLLaahu anhum. Even the dumbest of dumbers know this.


Then you did some arithmetic gymnastics by saying you love some poor people of makkah and madinah and blah blah blah. These poor people of makkah and madinah are they nameless, please mention just twenty companions that you love. Twenty out of thousands should not be a task for SHeIK AlBaqir!!!

It's obvious that you will never be able to do it because you are a liar and bloody liar and liars deserve nothing but he'll! All your life on this forum, you have never said anything positive about the sahabah.

Lastly, see how you contradict yourself, firstly you used the word sahabah to refer to believers hypocrites, then you use it in a latter comment to refer to believers only. which one should we choose out of the two.

Deviants are always self contradictory!
IslamRe: Do Not Call A Believer Munafiq Except With Clear Proof by Newnas(op): 8:27pm On Jun 02, 2017
AlBaqir:
^^^
I really want to see your ignorant pig-head wrestling with Nabi that Munafiqun vis-à-vis Innovators were not amongst his Sahabah.

The rest of your fantasical submission are of no probative value.
Firstly, vulgar language, a typical trait of deviants.

Secondly, the hadith of "my sahabah, my sahabah" is not mutawatir. Yes, it's authentic but it's not mutawatir!

I've always warned you against misuse of terms. I don't know why you remain heedless, maybe it's your ignorance or just sheer stubbornness.

Thirdly, it is known that in Arabic language, one may give a collective noun to a person a who is not a member of the collection but because of his closeness and similarity to the members of the collection.

Allah says:

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 34:
وَإِذْ قُلْنَا لِلْمَلَائِكَةِ اسْجُدُوا لِآدَمَ فَسَجَدُوا إِلَّا إِبْلِيسَ أَبَىٰ وَاسْتَكْبَرَ وَكَانَ مِنَ الْكَافِرِينَ

And (remember) when We said to the angels: "Prostrate yourselves before Adam.". And they prostrated except Iblis (Satan), he refused and was proud and was one of the disbelievers (disobedient to Allah).
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Please tell me: was Iblees also an angel?! because, going by your deviant interpretation of the hadith, this verse shows that not all angels are true worshippers of Allah, rather some of them are devils. I seek refuge with Allah from this evil creed!!!
AgricultureArchatina Archatina Snails Needed. by Newnas(op): 8:11pm On Jun 02, 2017
Good evening,

please anyone knows a reputable farm to get Archatina Archatina snails in Osun state?

I'll be very grateful for positive replies.
IslamDo Not Call A Believer Munafiq Except With Clear Proof by Newnas(op): 5:38am On Jun 01, 2017
BismiLLaahir Rahmanir Raheem.

Sahabah means anyone who met the prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam as a believer and died upon that. This basic ruling on anyone who believed during the time of the Prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam is that he is a rightly guided believer and a sahabah.

Allah praised the sahabah in many parts of the Quran and described their qualities.
However, there are some disbelievers who claimed to believe but we're indeed nothing but disbeliever and they knew it. These people are called munafiq.
Allah described them in the Quran and mentioned some of their qualities, however it is very wrong to call a person a munafiq without concrete proof.

It is a very horrible accusation to call a believer munafiq without clear proofs and evidence. Not to talk of the best generation of this ummah. The basic ruling regarding the people who claimed to be believers during the time of the Prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam is that they are believers, anyone who wants to say otherwise will have to provide evidence for it.

But, in the shia religion, the opposite is the case, to them, it is not right to praise any believer or companion, all of the companions rodiyaLLaahu anhum to the shia are basically munafiq except a few (less than 10). This is great misguidance.
The implication of this erroneous belief is that the Quran cannot be reported by tawaatur because the companions were all disbelievers except for ten or so among them. So it means that the Quran is not authentic and reliable.
Once they nullify the Quran, it the sunnah will be just a walkover for them. AlhamduliLlah who has preserved His Deen.

This last point is the major goal of the shia religion, they want to distort the religion of Prophet Muhammad alyhissolaat wassalaam by claiming that the transmitters were all infidels, and after that there would be nothing else except whims and desires, and to follow fabrications of shia sheikhs that have no chain.

But to get to this ugly goal, they hide under the guise of honouring and loving the prophets household and descendants his as the Sufi hide under the guise of asceticism.

This is nothing but a mere deception and shenanigan. As believers we should honour them but not go extreme in this love and honour as the Christians did with Eesa.

This is exactly what the shia, preach, write and practice!!! Only Allah we seek refuge with.
IslamRe: Islam For Muslims: Side Talk Station by Newnas(m): 5:34am On Jun 01, 2017
BismiLLaahir Rahmanir Raheem.

This filthy twelver rafidi will stop at nothing to propagate his falsehood.

Unfortunately for him, he just shot himself in the foot (as every deviant like him always does).

He uses the word sahabah and munafiq interchangeably but when later confronted will say there are good sahabah and bad sahabah.
This is a very horrible and misguiding use of terms. Sahabah means anyone who met the prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam as a believer and died upon that. This basic ruling on anyone who believed during the time of the Prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam is that he is a rightly guided believer and a sahabah.

Allah praised the sahabah in many parts of the Quran and described their qualities.

However, there are some disbelievers who claimed to believe but we're indeed nothing but disbeliever and they knew it. These people are called munafiq.
Allah described them in the Quran and mentioned some of their qualities, however it is very wrong to call a person a munafiq without concrete proof.

It is a very horrible accusation to call a believer munafiq without clear proofs and evidence. Not to talk of the best generation of this ummah. The basic ruling regarding the people who claimed to be believers during the time of the Prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam is that they are believers, anyone who wants to say otherwise will have to provide evidence for it.

But, in the shia religion, the opposite is the case, to them, it is not right to praise any believer or companion, all of the companions rodiyaLLaahu anhum to the shia are basically munafiq except a few (less than 10). This is great misguidance.

The implication of this erroneous belief is that the Quran cannot be reported by tawaatur because the companions were all disbelievers except for ten or so among them. So it means that the Quran is not authentic and reliable.

Once they nullify the Quran, it the sunnah will be just a walkover for them. AlhamduliLlah who has preserved His Deen.

This last point is the major goal of the shia religion, they want to distort the religion of Prophet Muhammad alyhissolaat wassalaam by claiming that the transmitters were all infidels, and after that there would be nothing else except whims and desires, and to follow fabrications of shia sheikhs that have no chain.

But to get to this ugly goal, they hide under the guise of honouring and loving the prophets household and descendants his as the Sufi hide under the guise of asceticism.
This is nothing but a mere deception and shenanigan. As believers we should honour them but not go extreme in this love and honour as the Christians did with Eesa.
This is exactly what the shia, preach, write and practice!!! Only Allah we seek refuge with.
IslamRe: La Ilaha Illa Allah: It's Meaning And Implication by Newnas(op): 8:11am On May 27, 2017
pinkguy:
All the so called 99 names of Allah are not name but titles. Example of titles are father, mother. Anyone can be called father or mother , one of the so called 99 names of Allah is Ar-Raheem which means" the merciful"you can see it's title not name anyone can be merciful does that make the person to become Allah(the God) another one is AL-Hafiz which means"the guarding one" so if I guard someone to safety does that make me Allah (the God)
Unfortunately for you, you are ignorant of the fact that there are two types of names;
names that have no meanings or at least the meaning is not intended like most western names.
Second are names that have meanings and the meanings of the names are intended.

they later is more common and it's the better of the two. The beauty of a name lies not only in how sweet it is on the tongue and to the ears rather it also includes the beauty of its meaning to the intellectuals.
This is a reason why the names of Allah are the most beautiful.

What even increases them in beauty is that the meanings in the names match the attributes of the named.

The names of Allah fall in that category.
IslamRe: Sufiyyah: A Quick Overview by Newnas(op): 8:02am On May 27, 2017
Empiree:
Op,

The ONLY WAY you can successfully refute sufi "lack of knowledge" according to your copy paste is to SINCERELY answer this question. Just ONE question. If you answer it sincerely, your op is crumbled and refuted. That's, you refute yourself.

Here is my question


In a sufi populated Nigeria, with bunch of sufi scholars, and especially growing up in the 80s and 90s, could you please tell us who taught you (newnas) Islam up until you adopted outlandish ideology?

Thank You
This is a flimsy argument.

I also attended a Christian school and I think my Christian background is stronger than my Muslim background.

Tell me, should I also avoid being sincere with Christians by telling them that their religion is a joke and misguidance because they trained me and brought me up and most of the civilization I enjoy today is through them?!

Surah An-Najm, Verse 22:
تِلْكَ إِذًا قِسْمَةٌ ضِيزَىٰ

That indeed is a division most unfair!
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran
IslamRe: Lets Analyze This Hadeeth by Newnas(m): 7:50am On May 27, 2017
One hour?!

time is too precious!!!

I've explained myself with clear verses from the Quran. I have no power to force guidance over anyone and I will not be accountable for anyone's misguidance. the obligation upon me is to explain which I have done.

AlhamduliLlah.
IslamRe: Salafism Is A Precise And Divinely Revealed Methodology – Haneef James Olivier by Newnas(m): 7:47am On May 27, 2017
ShiaMuslim:
Takfiri, that is not the answer to my questions. I asked legitimate questions and you're replying me with a prayer. grin
Because the only thing left is for us to pray for you and your fellow deviant shia members who curse the friends and wives of the Prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam and rodiyaLLaahu anhum.

After extensive explanations, you all decided to remain unrepentant. What else is there to be done than pray for you instead of repeating the same cycle and wasting ones time in a talk that you can predict it's outcome.
IslamRe: Ramadan Check: Tarawih Is Bid'ah (innovation) by Newnas(m): 7:40am On May 27, 2017
nurshah:
Subhanallah! Who are you reffering to as infidel ? Please , let's be mindful on pur choice of words...
A person insults Abu Bakr, Omar and Uthman and curses Muawiyah and Aishah the wife of the Prophet and calls some of them infidel. rodiyaLLaahu anhum. You keep mute from that and instead attack the one who calls this nonentity an infidel.

Surah An-Najm, Verse 22:
تِلْكَ إِذًا قِسْمَةٌ ضِيزَىٰ

That indeed is a division most unfair!
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran
IslamRe: Lets Analyze This Hadeeth by Newnas(m): 11:08pm On May 09, 2017
Empiree:
I think I should quote this in case you decide to erase it

This is your bida. shocked shocked

Not bida actually, rather a lie against Quran. I'm waiting for your evidence. And also kindly provide revealed Holy Book to khidr. I want to see that.
Since you don't ponder on the Quran, let me guide you to it by Allah's permit.

Surah Al-Kahf, Verse 82:
وَأَمَّا الْجِدَارُ فَكَانَ لِغُلَامَيْنِ يَتِيمَيْنِ فِي الْمَدِينَةِ وَكَانَ تَحْتَهُ كَنزٌ لَّهُمَا وَكَانَ أَبُوهُمَا صَالِحًا فَأَرَادَ رَبُّكَ أَن يَبْلُغَا أَشُدَّهُمَا وَيَسْتَخْرِجَا كَنزَهُمَا رَحْمَةً مِّن رَّبِّكَ وَمَا فَعَلْتُهُ عَنْ أَمْرِي ذَٰلِكَ تَأْوِيلُ مَا لَمْ تَسْطِع عَّلَيْهِ صَبْرًا

"And as for the wall, it belonged to two orphan boys in the town; and there was under it a treasure belonging to them; and their father was a righteous man, and your Lord intended that they should attain their age of full strength and take out their treasure as a mercy from your Lord. And I did it not of my own accord. That is the interpretation of those (things) over which you could not hold patience."
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

meaning that khadir received revelation from Allah and it was based on the revelation that he acted not some ilm batin.


What clarifies this further is that khadir's actions proved that he was given some knowledge of the unseen (ghaib) and Allah said:

Surah Al-Jinn, Verse 26-27:
عَالِمُ الْغَيْبِ فَلَا يُظْهِرُ عَلَىٰ غَيْبِهِ أَحَدًا

إِلَّا مَنِ ارْتَضَىٰ مِن رَّسُولٍ فَإِنَّهُ يَسْلُكُ مِن بَيْنِ يَدَيْهِ وَمِنْ خَلْفِهِ رَصَدًا


"(He Alone) the All-Knower of the Gha'ib (unseen), and He reveals to none His Gha'ib (unseen)
Except to a Messenger (from mankind) whom He has chosen (He informs him of unseen as much as He likes), and then He makes a band of watching guards (angels) to march before him and behind him.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

So, the fact that khadir Alyhissalam possessed knowledge of the unseen (ghaib) shows that he is a prophet because non is given knowledge of the unseen except a prophet.
IslamRe: Sufiyyah: A Quick Overview by Newnas(op): 10:54pm On May 09, 2017
As for your claim that the Sufi people taught me Islam and so on.

This is not a proof for you rather it's a proof against you.

Firstly, I lived a life of almost no religion before I began practicing the sunnah. No Islam except Eids and maybe jumuah.

Secondly, even those Sufi sheikhs, who taught them the little Islam that they have erroneously diluted with innovations, isn't it the pious predecessors i.e the sahabah rodiyaLLaahu anhum and those who followed them.

The case of your Sufi sheikhs is as Allah described the people of the book in the Quran

Surah Maryam, Verse 59:
فَخَلَفَ مِن بَعْدِهِمْ خَلْفٌ أَضَاعُوا الصَّلَاةَ وَاتَّبَعُوا الشَّهَوَاتِ فَسَوْفَ يَلْقَوْنَ غَيًّا

Then, there has succeeded them a posterity who have given up As-Salat (the prayers) [i.e. made their Salat (prayers) to be lost, either by not offering them or by not offering them perfectly or by not offering them in their proper fixed times, etc.] and have followed lusts. So they will be thrown in Hell.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

So the people of sunnah are the ones who are the basis, every other path is a fabrication.

So, I have done nothing but return to the pristine Islam and not dumbly follow people's desire.
IslamRe: Sufiyyah: A Quick Overview by Newnas(op): 10:41pm On May 09, 2017
Empiree:
Op,

The ONLY WAY you can successfully refute sufi "lack of knowledge" according to your copy paste is to SINCERELY answer this question. Just ONE question. If you answer it sincerely, your op is crumbled and refuted. That's, you refute yourself.

Here is my question


In a sufi populated Nigeria, with bunch of sufi scholars, and especially growing up in the 80s and 90s, could you please tell us who taught you (newnas) Islam up until you adopted outlandish ideology?

Thank You
Firstly, you should seek Allah's forgiveness for saying what you have no knowledge of.
I wrote this post myself and it's a very brief summary of my knowledge of sufiyyah.

Allah says:

Surah Al-Isra, Verse 36:
وَلَا تَقْفُ مَا لَيْسَ لَكَ بِهِ عِلْمٌ إِنَّ السَّمْعَ وَالْبَصَرَ وَالْفُؤَادَ كُلُّ أُولَٰئِكَ كَانَ عَنْهُ مَسْئُولًا

And follow not (O man i.e., say not, or do not or witness not, etc.) that of which you have no knowledge (e.g. one's saying: "I have seen," while in fact he has not seen, or "I have heard," while he has not heard). Verily! The hearing, and the sight, and the heart, of each of those you will be questioned (by Allah).
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

Surah An-Najm, Verse 28:
وَمَا لَهُم بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِن يَتَّبِعُونَ إِلَّا الظَّنَّ وَإِنَّ الظَّنَّ لَا يُغْنِي مِنَ الْحَقِّ شَيْئًا

While they have no knowledge thereof. They follow but a guess, and verily, guess is no substitute for the truth.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran

If you want to insist that what you claimed about the post being copy and paste is truly correct then present the source I copied from!

If not then I recite this verse unto you:

Surah Al-Baqara, Verse 24:
فَإِن لَّمْ تَفْعَلُوا وَلَن تَفْعَلُوا فَاتَّقُوا النَّارَ الَّتِي وَقُودُهَا النَّاسُ وَالْحِجَارَةُ أُعِدَّتْ لِلْكَافِرِينَ

But if you do it not, and you can never do it, then fear the Fire (Hell) whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the disbelievers.
(English - Mohsin Khan)

via iQuran
Nairaland GeneralRe: Shorter Day, Longer Night? by Newnas(m): 10:31pm On May 09, 2017
AMZYMAYO:
When I was in secondary school, I use to here the notion, "Shorter day, longer night," and the vice versal. My question is: has it been scientifically proven, or it's just another rumor common in secondary school.
like diceman1 said, you won't observe the phenomenon well because you are close to the equator (centre of the earth).

Lemme try to break down the technical explanation behind it. I hope it will be easy for me to explain and easy for you to comprehend.

Firstly, the earth -just like every other planet- revolves round the sun on a "route" called orbit.

thirdly, the earth is slightly tilted on its orbit (at an angle of 23.5 I guess) such that not all parts of it is equally exposed to the sun and gets equal sunshine at every point in time.

Secondly, the earth can be divided into two equal halves called (the North South hemispheres)
This tilting is the reason for the difference in sunshine (daylight) and shade (night). the area tilted towards the sun gets greater sunshine and thus longer days. The area tilted away from the sun gets lesser sunlight and thus more night.

But because we are close to the centre of the earth, the effect of the tilting will affect us less. but as you move towards any of the two poles (north or south) you will experience it more.

So, it will be more pronounced in the US or Russia than Nigeria because they are closer to one of the two poles than Nigeria.

Once you understand this a little it will be easy to understand two dates or events or phenomena related to this tilting. The two occur every year.

They are the solstices, equinoxes.

The equinox is the time when all parts of the earth receive equal sunshine. This implies equal day and equal night all around the earth.
It occurs twice a year, around 21st March and 23rd September.

The solstice is when one of the two "tips or ends" of the earth called north and south poles of the earth receive complete sunshine and no shade meaning 24hrs of daylight.
Interesting enough, when the North Pole is having it's complete daylight, the South Pole will be having it's complete night time or darkness and vice versa.

The days are 21st of December (winter solstice) and 21st of June (summer solstice).

The South Pole experiences complete daylight and no sunset during the winter solstice, by implication the North Pole enjoys complete night and no sunset at the same time.
The opposite occurs during the summer solstice.

Because Nigeria is below the equator i.e In the southern hemisphere, it will experience longer day December when the South Pole will be having it's complete day and no night.
So also we will have our shortest days during the June period.
IslamRe: Sufiyyah: A Quick Overview by Newnas(op): 1:12pm On May 08, 2017
Aameen wa iyyaak
IslamSufiyyah: A Quick Overview by Newnas(op): 9:17am On May 08, 2017
BismiLLaahir Rahmanir Raheem

The Sufis from the inception were a set of people with very good intentions but they were equally extremely ignorant people. They were a people who had great zeal for worship but they were not interested in seeking knowledge of the Deen before trying to practice it.

The scholars always tried to call them to order but they always refused claiming that the people of knowledge are only finding excuses for their laziness. Just like many deviants today regard the people of knowledge to be weaklings who forbid terrorism because of their laziness and cowardice.

When the fitnah (killings and unrest) in the ummah became very hot, some people out of the fear of falling into it secluded themselves from the people and went into asylum, they decided to wear nothing but "soof" a kind of woolen non flamboyant material.

They decided to continue worship in seclusion till they reached the peak of piety.
But Shaitan laid ambush for them, he made them disregard the people of knowledge and forget that any worship that is not in line with the sunnah of the Prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam is misguidance because he alyhissolaat wassalaam is the one who perfected worship in every aspect of it and non can ever be more guided than him. The more you follow him alyhissolaat wassalaam the more guided you are and vice versa.

So they fell for this trap and strived in worship without knowledge or guidance until they started innovating several misguidances like claiming that they attained a rank of merging with Allah (al-hulool) -may Allah forbid- after worshipping him for some time. And they established some steps and procedures to follow on this their journey of "merging" which neither the prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam nor Abu Bakr,Umar, Uthman or Ali rodiyaLLaahu anhum embarked on.
They named these procedures and steps of rituals "tariqah" meaning path (to Allah or salvation or whatever).

Then they started innovating other terminologies like mureed (disciple) for the trainee willing to attain hulool and they came up with their innovated principle that:
the mureed in the hand of his sheikh is like a corpse in the hand of the one cleaning him. This principle implies that one doesn't ask for evidence or proof for whatever your sheikh does.

They based this principle on the fact that Khadir asked Musa not to ask him any questions. But they are ignorant of the fact that Khadir is a prophet and thus received revelations. But their sheikhs were not.

Then Shaitan used baseless principle to put them into the mess of extremism in loving, praising and obeying their sheikhs till they were bold enough to raise many of their sheikhs to the level of prophethood.

Some of their extreme sects raise their sheikhs to the level of divinity thereby making them associates with Allah. We ask Allah for safety.

This extremism caused arrogance and pride to grow in the hearts of their sheikhs till many of them claimed several types of nonsense such as some of them saying that they are higher in rank than the prophets because the prophets Alyhimussalam receive revelation from Allah through angels, but the waliyy (in Sufi term means sheikh who has merged) communicates directly with Allah. Till many of them claimed that they have knowledge of the unseen and are capable of giving and taking life, giving and holding rain, rewriting the Qadar (Devine predestination) of a person.

Then from this arrogance and pride was born recklessness in following lusts, this made them claim that the Sheikhs are not under any legislation and are free to contradict any law of the shariah as much they wished.

Their proof for this is that once lover meets his beloved, whatever wrong he does is overlooked by his lover. But the messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam was the most beloved to Allah, and he observed Solah, fast and hajj till his death alyhissolaat wassalaam.

So whatever they do Allah -as they claim- will pardon them because they have merged with him. This made them legalize adultery, alcohol, incest, abandoning Solah, music and many other atrocities for themselves.

But, it is the sunnah of Allah that whoever abandons knowledge will not achieve what he seeks. So the Sufi people faced worship and cut themselves off from the people of knowledge. This dragged them into a maze of mess and misguidances and they are unable to retrace their footsteps to guidance.

So, the matter is as Imam Barbahaariyy said in Sharh Sunnah:

And beware of the (seemingly) small bidah (innovations), Because the small innovation continues until it becomes big. So also is every innovation (that was) innovated into this ummah, it's beginning was small resembling the truth, so the one who fell into it was deceived by that and was never able to break loose from it. Then it became big and turned into a religion that is practiced then it contradicted the right path and went out of Islam.

We ask Allah for safety
IslamRe: Lets Analyze This Hadeeth by Newnas(m): 9:09am On May 08, 2017
Empiree:
I was confused at first trying to figure out what you tried to derive from the his quote. Well, largely, including yourself before you adopted salafism, you did not hear of the most likely. We never used it in my family. The least i heard from dad back then was "wiridi". He would say "awon oni wiridi" to indicate turban alfas. But i didnt even know what he meant by wiridi back then. It seems to be Yoruba name for tasawwuf. Well what i meant is the word "sufi" was that it was not really used as it is used today by every Tom, Dick and Harry. Those 20th century sufis were sincere. They put Allah first and were very patient contrary to many today
Firstly, the fact that you were ignorant of the term is of little or no significance. The term had been in use for years, even Imam Jalaludin suyootee gave it a chapter in his "nuqooyah* and his explanation of his nuqooyah called "itmaam diraayah".


Secondly, the Sufis from the inception were aware and conscious of the fact that they practiced a type of Islam and they were a sect. The scholars always tried to call them to order but they always refused claiming that the people of knowledge are only finding excuses for their laziness. Just like many deviants today regard the people of knowledge to be weaklings who forbid terrorism because of their laziness and cowardice.

When the fitnah (killings and unrest) in the ummah became very hot, some people out of the fear of falling into it secluded themselves from the people and went into asylum, they decided to wear nothing but "soof" a kind of woolen non flamboyant material.

They decided to continue worship in seclusion till they reached the peak of piety.
But Shaitan laid ambush for them, he made them disregard the people of knowledge and forget that any worship that is not in line with the sunnah of the Prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam is misguidance because he alyhissolaat wassalaam is the one who perfected worship in every aspect of it and non can ever be more guided than him. The more you follow him alyhissolaat wassalaam the more guided you are and vice versa.

So they fell for this trap and strived in worship without knowledge or guidance until they started innovating several misguidances like claiming that they attained a rank of merging with Allah (al-hulool) -may Allah forbid- after worshipping him for some time. And they established some steps and procedures to follow on this their journey of "merging" which neither the prophet alyhissolaat wassalaam nor Abu Bakr,Umar, Uthman or Ali rodiyaLLaahu anhum embarked on.
They named these procedures and steps of rituals "tariqah" meaning path (to Allah or salvation or whatever).

Then they started innovating other terminologies like mureed (disciple) for the trainee willing to attain hulool and they came up with their innovated principle that:
the mureed in the hand of his sheikh is like a corpse in the hand of the one cleaning him. This principle implies that one doesn't ask for evidence or proof for whatever your sheikh does.

They based this principle on the fact that Khadir asked Musa not to ask him any questions. But they are ignorant of the fact that Khadir is a prophet and thus received revelations. But their sheikhs were not.

Then Shaitan used baseless principle to put them into the mess of extremism in loving, praising and obeying their sheikhs till they were bold enough to raise many of their sheikhs to the level of prophethood.

Some of their extreme sects raise their sheikhs to the level of divinity thereby making them associates with Allah. We ask Allah for safety.

This extremism caused arrogance and pride to grow in the hearts of their sheikhs till many of them claimed several types of nonsense such as some of them saying that they are higher in rank than the prophets because the prophets Alyhimussalam receive revelation from Allah through angels, but the waliyy (in Sufi term means sheikh who has merged) communicates directly with Allah. Till many of them claimed that they have knowledge of the unseen and are capable of giving and taking life, giving and holding rain, rewriting the Qadar (Devine predestination) of a person.

Then from this arrogance and pride was born recklessness in following lusts, this made them claim that the Sheikhs are not under any legislation and are free to contradict any law of the shariah as much they wished.

Their proof for this is that once lover meets his beloved, whatever wrong he does is overlooked by his lover. But the messenger alyhissolaat wassalaam was the most beloved to Allah, and he observed Solah, fast and hajj till his death alyhissolaat wassalaam.

So whatever they do Allah -as they claim- will pardon them because they have merged with him. This made them legalize adultery, alcohol, incest, abandoning Solah, music and many other atrocities for themselves.

But, it is the sunnah of Allah that whoever abandons knowledge will not achieve what he seeks. So the Sufi people faced worship and cut themselves off from the people of knowledge. This dragged them into a maze of mess and misguidances and they are unable to retrace their footsteps to guidance.

So, the matter is as Imam Barbahaariyy said in Sharh Sunnah:

And beware of the (seemingly) small bidah (innovations), Because the small innovation continues until it becomes big. So also is every innovation (that was) innovated into this ummah, it's beginning was small resembling the truth, so the one who fell into it was deceived by that and was never able to break loose from it. Then it became big and turned into a religion that is practiced then it contradicted the right path and went out of Islam.

We ask Allah for safety.
IslamRe: Lets Analyze This Hadeeth by Newnas(m): 10:44pm On May 07, 2017
Empiree:
the issue of money stands. Up to toy to tell us which money the Pele that sahaba traded with used. Nabi (saw) clearly said dinar, durham. This is original money. I admmited bringing up issue of women as evidence but I was wrong. So now tell me my bida? .

Your problem is, you all assume too much someone is upon bida if he or she's ideology leans towards certain sect or madhab. Your wrong. Majority in Africa are sufi but they never called themselves by that until recent years. Myself heard of the name first time in 2010. The name is not important but essence.
@bolded
Thia is one of the biggest lies I've read today.

lemme remind you of your statement on this forum in your biography of Sheikh Adam Ilory.

https://www.nairaland.com/2042359/shaykh-adam-abdullah-al-ilory

“My father was a Qaadiriyya Sufi. I started learning the Qur’aan from him. I also started Ilimee (Islamic Sciences) with him, after which I studied under the tutelage of Alfa Esin who was a Tijaaniyah. I learnt with Alfa Umar (Imam of Agbaji, Ilorin) who was a Tijaaniyah.

You see, how Sheikh Adam (an early Sufi scholars in Yorubaland) used the term.

Also, the sheikh wrote a book on sufiyyah: he tried to analyse the history, goals and authenticity of the sect. I can't remember the name of the book but I'm sure he used the word Sufi many times.
IslamRe: Muslim Men So Fashionable While Their Women Wear Medieval Outfits by Newnas(m): 10:21pm On May 07, 2017
basilico:
And yet Islam is a religion that honours women. Just watching TV Muslim men wear the latest labels while their women when leniency applies wear 7th Century garb.

The billionaire playboy who married 170m dollars worth Janet Jackson literally forced her to cover herself, diluted her outings, restricted her freedom until she could take it no more
and moved back here.

What a jock this religion is.
haha, OP, you just came here to publicize your dull-headedness.

The unfortunate part is that your definition of fashionable is nudity and wanton display.

Our women are not for public consumption, as a result they only give their charm and fashion to those who are legally allowed not every Tom, Dick and Harry.

And your definition of civilized dressing is American and European 21st century nudity. Anyone who has an atom of reasoning will see that nudity is a primitive act, even the European women gained nothing from their nudity.

today, in America, the value of a woman is the size of her front and backsides, little wonder they always continue to do surgery to ensure that they remain relevant in the society.

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