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PoliticsRe: The Yorubas Wrote to The British To Colonize Them. Were they scared? by NigerMan1: 10:35am On Aug 16, 2015
FFKfuckedBIANCA - Bro are you an INDIGENE of Lagos? Which state of origin are you? Would you be proud of your REAL ancestral lineage?

And WHY each time Nigeria states and regions are mentioned, the only place you guys bring up for defense is LAGOS?

I hope you know that most Yorubas are also MIGRANTS to Lagos? I hope you know that Lagos was DEVELOPED (and still being sustained) with Niger Delta OIL, as the main business capital for Nigeria?

Again, I ask you: "Are You An INDIGENE of Lagos?"

Just this morning, one of the most prominent true Lagosians gave this interview: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/08/open-letter-to-buhari-on-behalf-of-lagos-state-indigenes-1/

PS: Read it; learn something critical from it



FFKfuckedBIANCA:
when Governor Fashola deported destitute ibos back to iboland, werent you fools crying like sore loosers that you really are?

Deport the Yorubas in iboland and let the Yorubas deport the ibos in Yorubaland. Lets see who will first bat an eyelid
PoliticsRe: Photo Of The Soldier Killed At Nembe, Bayelsa State By Pirates by NigerMan1: 9:29pm On Aug 09, 2015
I wanted you to broaden your submission because it was clear you're NOT referring to the Robbers alone. You asked how did I know if they were Armed Robbers? Alas, the report said they were PIRATES.

My dear, pirates is the fancy name for Armed Robbers who ply their evil trade on the sea and waters. So why should you indirectly be calling out to a larger group? When crime is committed, the work of the Govt is to apply relevant agencies such as Police, Intelligence network, courts to fish them out out and get them prosecuted.

About ODI Massacre: The ODI incidence wasn't by Pirates. It was carried out by the militants when the Niger Delta militancy was at it's infancy. But going after innocent people never solve the problem anyway.

And I disagree with you about Soldiers going for 'revenge' as you suppose. We must not permit our mind to sub-consciously accept such heinous actions by the State is normal: Police or Soldiers go on killing spree to avenge lost colleagues



omojoshy:
Why is your conscience disturbing you? When I say "Some people" did I mention your name or do you think I'm NOT from South South too? And how did you know it was Armed Rubbers that carried out the killings? Were you an Eye-witness or spoke-person?

Did you know the implications of what took place? Have you forgotten the ODI massacre? When I say "Some people" it could be your so called Armed rubbers, militants or Crude Oil thieves. Be objective before you attack people innocently. I just pray the Solders don't come back for a revenge.....the outcome could lead to nothing but a War.
PoliticsRe: Photo Of The Soldier Killed At Nembe, Bayelsa State By Pirates by NigerMan1: 3:33pm On Aug 09, 2015
Omojoshy - What exactly do you mean by your statement? Who are the "some people beating the Drum of War" you are referring to? I wonder why many of you youths find it difficult to reason beyond the TRIBAL level politicians and sectional leaders want you to?

First Nembe is a town just like any other town in Nigeria. Sea robbers (PIRATES) operating in Nembe sea just as we have land robbers (ARMED ROBBERS) operating in other towns and YOURS inclusive. So my friend, what informed your slanging about 'some people beating drums of war...?'

Or are you telling us that whenever thieves and Armed Robbers strike and killed people (security officials inclusive) where you come from in Nigeria, then we the rest of us should conclude that YOU and YOUR Entire Clan, Tribe and Culture should be referred as people beating the Drum of War?


[ quote author=omojoshy post=36773343]Now that some people are beating the Drums of War, I hope they will remember their dancing steps when the time comes huh sad sad[/quote]
FashionRe: Nigerian Arts And Crafts On Display At The British Museum by NigerMan1: 2:41pm On Jun 01, 2015
macof:
As at 1893 Ekiti had become a powerful independent united nation who fought the ruthless and daring Ibadan to a stand still to secure that. Bini never held the "whole" of Ekiti... wat like 3 kingdoms out of 16 has turned into "whole"
cheesy
anyway no reason to take an Esan (who's history is unknown) anti-yoruba Bini slave seriously
macof - why challenging only a SMALL part of my post and facts? Why don't you tell me that the Benin Kings never rule over any part of present Ondo/Ekiti state?

Would you dispute the fact that the "The Deji of Akure" originally known as UDEZI was not a vassal king to the Oba of Benin till 1897? Please if this sound strange to you, before you start abusing me, go and found out about this truth.
FashionRe: Nigerian Arts And Crafts On Display At The British Museum by NigerMan1: 2:36pm On Jun 01, 2015
twosquare:
Nigerman1 don dey spew ignorance since....even till 1897? Oookay....perhaps I should know whom the Ekitis were fighting their domination in Kiriji war then....Like Shymm3x said, Ife birth those two great Empires and that's the bedrock of the two civilizations and that's also why the heads of benin kings where buried there in ancient times. It is
symbolic.
twosquare - Oh I see. So Nigerman1 is ignorance while you choose to believe a tribal narrative created by your Yoruba leaders and writers in the 1950s about Benin origin?

As for what Shymm3x said, he merely REGURGITATED the spurious Yoruba folklores without evidence. So is an old UNFOUNDED story among you modern Yorubas to CONSOLE yourself. And this inform the reason you hate to be challenged to prove, rather you resort to insults and abuse.

If you can get off the lies you'd been told from the cradle, dust up your mindset and do more research and INVESTIGATE "If the present day Yorubaland was the same 200, 400, 500, 700, 950 years ago..." you will blown away by the truth.

Oh and you spewed that Yoruba created lies again - "Benin kings were buried..."
Can you back it up with facts and figures?

The Ekiti parapo war was MORE present than ancient. Long before the Ekiti war, the entire land of present day Ekiti/Ondo was 100% vassal to the Oba of Benin.
FashionRe: Nigerian Arts And Crafts On Display At The British Museum by NigerMan1: 2:07pm On Jun 01, 2015
scholes0:
Shebi the Binis said they have nothing to do with Yoruba people ancestrally, yet they worship well known Yoruba Gods like Olokun, Osun, Sango, Oduduwa and Ogun, while Yoruba do not worship any Edo/Bini gods/goddesses
But not doubt, the Yorubas and the Edos were by far the best art makers in all of Sub Saharan Africa. (Especially when it had to do with sculptures and carvings)
If you'd done enough research you won't type this vain conclusion. I will continue to remind you guys about the real "Yoruba" origin itself, so you can stop supplanting the olden days/ancient events with the modern.

You Wrote: "known Yoruba Gods like Olokun, Osun, Sango, Oduduwa and Ogun, while Yoruba do not worship any Edo/Bini gods/goddesses"

You have no business discussing history, if you think and conclude that those gods were/are today's Yoruba origin. They're NOT. For example, ONOKUN (Olokun) is 100% Benin god and still exist today.

However then Benin introduced ONOKUN (Sea Goddess) worship among other gods and tradition to Lagos. The word "OKUN" is also Benin etymological but being used by modern day Yoruba lexicon.

In the same vein, many parts of present day Yorubaland such as Ekiti and Ondo were once ruled by Benin and those gods were also introduced.

About Ancestry: That's a different ball game altogether, why quick to mix two unrelated issues? This is the problem about you Yorubas when you deliberately throw FACTS to the wind to grandstand.

Today, you Yorubas worship the IGUNUKO Masquerade which originated from Nupe about 175-220 years. Now do we conclude that NUPE is Yoruba ancestry? Maybe...

The word/title "OBA" is also 100% Benin origin but being used in many parts of present day yorubaland. Now do we conclude that all Yorubas have Benin ancestry? Maybe...


You Wrote: "But not doubt, the Yorubas and the Edos were by far the best art makers in all of Sub Saharan Africa..."

This is not true at all. Again it shows you should not be contributing to historical discourse of this nature at all. And I say this with due respect sir/ma.

Many of you rush to conclusion of our collective history based on your present political and tribal leanings; thereby ERODING possibilities of having only the TRUTH as our standard record.

What is Yoruba Arts? There was nothing known in recorded ancient history as "Yoruba arts". What are recorded are: Benin arts, Ife arts, Igbo Ukwu arts etc.
FashionRe: Nigerian Arts And Crafts On Display At The British Museum by NigerMan1: 2:07pm On Jun 01, 2015
Jobneeded12:
The superior race has always been yoruba/Edo see arts
Jobneeded12 - Superior race? Jesus! And this is coming from a graduate? First they're NOT race but sub-tribes of the larger BLACK RACE.

My dear I bleed in my heart so much the damage modern politicians and tribal leader have injected into this country via-a-viz the youth. In history and even in the affairs of men, races, tribe, tradition and culture are not superior to the other. Everyone bring something tangible to the table, at one time or the other, to make the whole.

However this salient virtue has been LOST in Nigeria chiefly because political and tribal leaders in their quest for supremacy and CONTROL over the citizen's mindset and conscience, enacted this mantra of "we are better than you.....bal bla bla"

And if you say Edo/Yoruba were superior. what would you said about the Kanuris, the Nupes, Igalas, Fulanis etc? Again my dear, there're nothing known or recorded as "Yoruba arts" in the ancient culture.
FashionRe: Nigerian Arts And Crafts On Display At The British Museum by NigerMan1: 4:53pm On May 31, 2015
Rotimi47:
Owo & Bini are like siblings.
Owo and Benin were NOT siblings. I love when a great CLAIM is made, you back it up with more facts and summary.

As early as the reign of Oba Ovonramwen, before he was overthrown by the British in 1897, the whole of the present day Ekiti/Ondo was a vassal of the Benin King. They paid tribute and many of their language (word) and tradition were Benin which still exist today.
FashionRe: Nigerian Arts And Crafts On Display At The British Museum by NigerMan1: 4:45pm On May 31, 2015
Shymm3x:
Yes, it's epic. I'm a big fan of the finesse of Bini arts and crafts. The Binis definitely had the best arts and crafts from present day Nigeria, due to the supreme finesse involved in the works of those practitioners. Then I'd go for Owo after Bini. Though Ife birthed the two places - Ife arts were more realism than finesse, apart from the supremely marvellous Ife head (ori olokun), which is over 700 years old, and definitely the greatest masterpiece out of present day Nigeria. But the Binis killed the game - props to them.

Err, I'm sure you're conversant with Yoruba religion - what do you think about the elaborate representation of Yoruba gods (Osun, Olokun, Ogun, and Oduduwa) in Bini arts?

Lmao @ returning them to Nigeria. That would be disastrous. Most Nigerians are too sucked into Abrahamic religions and they won't appreciate the greatness of these artworks. Then you have got educated illiterates who still think the white man brought civilisation to Africa, due to the fact that they don't understand what civilisation entails. Also, even if they were to return them, where would they keep them and maximise the utilisation of these great works, in a country where nothing works and all the infrastructures are dilapidated with zero maintenance culture? Nigeria isn't Egypt and the people don't understand anything - apart from white Jesus and Allah. Anything else is of the notorious devil/satan/lucifer. grin
Shymm3x - You did well by bringing these artwork to the fore, but at the same time, subtly trying to 'kill' the truth of the advanced Benin history which is glearing in thesee SAME artswork, with an age-long Yoruba lies.

Hear You: "... Though Ife birthed the two places..."

That line was a big LIE, or at best you're only spewing the Yoruba version of Oduduwa while denying the Benin version. Sorry, Ife did NOT birth Benin. In fact, Benin was already great, glorious and EPOCHAL before Ife in the ancient days. These arts you shown here even proved this facts, yet you decided to SMUGGLE in a less-fancied history to perpetuate an age-long tribal attack on the Benin history.


You Wrote: "... Ife arts were more realism than finesse, apart from the supremely marvellous Ife head (ori olokun), which is over 700 years old, and definitely the greatest masterpiece out of present day Nigeria. But the Binis killed the game - props to them.

Who says Ife art were truly 700 years old? Who detected or determined their ages? Who are the historians, archaeologists and international curators and critics who adjudged the IFE Arts as "...greatest masterpiece out of present day Nigeria"?

There's no where in any academic archives or records about Ife arts being 700yerar - except in some Yoruba journals. Those backyard dates were inputted to sell an 'older' artworks which were in fact COPIED from Benin.

Who taught you that artworks are judged this way? What are the criteria? My friend, old artworks only depicted arts... cultures, tradition, history etc of the people. We know what the Benin arts symboliz[/b]e both in the culture and spirituality, [b]so tell us what does the Ife arts symbolizes? And why do you have to make UNFOUNDED claims to patch up?

And do you know Benin posses artworks and monuments such as the Benin Moat (known as the great Benin wall) dated since since 8-9AD? There is none like this anywhere in the whole Africa except the old Egypt. Please note this is NOT a personal claim - you can find this FACT in any International archaeological and historical records and repertoire about African/Black.


You Wrote: "... Err, I'm sure you're conversant with Yoruba religion - what do you think about the elaborate representation of Yoruba gods (Osun, Olokun, Ogun, and Oduduwa) in Bini arts?

And you veered from REALITY into Ignorant claims and assertions. And you clearly open up your vast IGNORANT of the origin of those gods.

First I want you to realize that Benin established the Lagos Monarchy and its palace culture and tradition, many of which are still there up till today. As far back as 14th Century, Benin was already firmly in charge of a large portion of present Southern Nigeria - which spread along the coast that covers present day Ekiti/Ondo, the whole of Edo, most parts of Niger Delta, parts of present day Igboland, down to Lagos and bordered Togo.

In the space of Benin dominance, influence, partnership and indirect rulership which lasted till late 19 Century (though waned before then), it spread its cultural and traditional worships, names, deities which include ONOKUN (olokun) and others.

Sorry my bro - go find out from the archives the ORIGIN of those gods. They're not YORUBA origin but were either left behind towns/cities under old Benin... or carried along by others (Yorubas, Igalas) who were once under the Benin rule. Some of the those gods you have in present day Yoruba were from other tribes such as Nupe, Igala, Togoe and Benin Republic etc.

The Word/Title "OBA"

Also I hope you won't make the mistake to claim the word/title OBA is Yoruba origin? I hope you know OBA (meaning the supreme King) is 100% Benin origin, which came to present day Yorubaland when a Benin Prince was installed as the Oba of Lagos.

Also in history, it's important to spell out origin/etymology/association/influence to enable OPEN clarify. Do you know why I said this? Because the world "Yoruba" came into existence in the late 19th Century.
CareerRe: HND Holders Have More Opportunities Than A B.sc 2.2. See Why.. by NigerMan1: 4:10pm On May 14, 2015
literarymathy:
Do not be deceived! There's nowhere in the world where HND and B.Sc compete. HND is a middle man technical degree whereas B.Sc is a managerial theoretical based degree. They both have their uses but a they can never be called equals. Even a 3rd class B.Sc holder stands a better chance of employability into certain firms than HND. Besides HND holders will find it extremely hard to enter into the lecturing profession unlike B.Sc holders. There's no way anyone can say these two certificates are equal. Saying so would yield to delusive thinking.
However, I do agree that HND holders have a better technical know how and stand a much higher chance of employability in practical, on-the-field jobs. However, B.Sc holders will end up being their supervisors. That's the sad truth of this bifurcation.
As for the 2.2 stuff; second class lower division is an average result. Granted, many of them may not stand as much chance as do 2.1 or 1.1 graduates or even given the opportunity to prove themselves, they are still much better than HND lower credit holders.
literarymathy - your assertion is a testimony that you younger generation were bred under an intense DISCRIMINATORY society and unfortunately this culture has become massively ingrained in most Nigerians like you. Yes I agree with the points you raised but suffice to say that they're 100% a Nigerian culture that first reared ts ugly head in the 70s under the Gowon Administration by those who felt THREATENED by the new breed of HND holders who're out-performing them in the workplaces.

However your belief about certificate is not practiced in advanced countries where VALUE and MERITS are the twin pillars their foundations are laid. If those countries were run like Nigeria today, China, US, France, Japan, Singapore, will be poorer and lagging behind like us today!

Finally literarymathy I think it smack of inferiority complex and reaping where one did not sow to describe another college graduate as "middle man" when you did not COMPETE with hm to determine who is BETTER? To determine who can be the BETTER leader say in 10 - 20 years?

Please remember that you're avidly supporting this satanic "Certificate Discrimination" because it favors you and/or it rubs your inner ego that you're 'better' than your fellow youth who you did not compete with to gain position.

My dear do not complain when you get discriminated against via other "Black Man" policies or reason such as tribe, quota system, state of origin, gender, height, 'man now man,' sexuality etc.

Many of you are crying for greater and successful NIGERIA - but you lack the wisdom and global knowledge that such society are solidly built upon an EGALITARIAN foundation which you hate so much.
PoliticsRe: Murray-bruce Proves He Doesn't Fly First Class by NigerMan1: 7:35pm On May 13, 2015
simpleseyi:
Please tell him to post previous years pictures he took in the different planes like a typical first timer, then I will believe him. Also, let him continue talking before thinking until the people's general put him (Murray Bruce) in Kirikiri prison where he (Murray Bruce) actually belongs for misappropriating NTA's money when he (Murray Bruce) was NTA's DG and Chairman of FRCN.
simpleseyi - yes you are right in your assertion. But the same WAY "the people's general" will also be put in prison for squandering TENs of Billions during his mismanagement of PTF. And there are other financial issues hanging on his neck as well
CultureRe: Facts About The Yoruba Enclave In The Heart Of Aniocha In Delta State by NigerMan1: 10:01am On May 12, 2015
MrPresident1:
Isaiah 14:1
14 For the Lord will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.


Bro, History (and truth) is couched in arcane language to deter the unworthy.

The House of Jacob aka the kingdom of God that will be established very soon will be made up of all people, irrespective of background. The Yoruba tribal agglomeration is the best example of this, Yoruba is the Church of God, made up of all people.

To tell you the truth, Yoruba, Edo, Igbo etc etc, non of them is wholly homogenous, they are all heterogeneous groups of people who have found a common banner to associate themselves. They are all superior, non is inferior to the other.

Isaiah 56:6
6 Also the sons of the stranger, that join themselves to the Lord, to serve him, and to love the name of the Lord, to be his servants, every one that keepeth the sabbath from polluting it, and taketh hold of my covenant;
7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices shall be accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.


Bro., Oduduwa is all about being Omoluabi, an omoluabi is a just person, a peaceful person, a righteous person, a person of virtue. And all Yoruba have accepted that banner.

Jesus Christ is the chief Omoluabi, the head cornerstone of the Yoruba church.
[size=16pt]Blasphemy[/size]
CultureRe: Facts About The Yoruba Enclave In The Heart Of Aniocha In Delta State by NigerMan1: 9:59am On May 12, 2015
absoluteSuccess:
I am from Isolo compound at Ado, and I'm happy to discover the place of my patriarch in Yoruba history. It is you that need to learn my history from me www.en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ota,_Nigeria.
Wikipedia? The 'HIDDEN' truth about HISTORY of this nature are found in long held ARCHIVES.

Not a Wikipedia that any damn editor go to fumble with.

And remember your kinsmen here did described links from the internet as fake
CultureRe: Facts About The Yoruba Enclave In The Heart Of Aniocha In Delta State by NigerMan1: 9:53am On May 12, 2015
tonychristopher:
This isnt a dickk measuring contest, I have been reading NigerMan1: and his approach to issue is matured and accademic so why use Yoruba is superior, in what aspect


Thank you..i know you will call me names
tonychristopher - Remember I advised you earlier don't bother about an average Yoruba person mentality. They must abuse and insult to feel good and cultured. It's ingrained in their soco-cultural upbringing. So the fellow MrPresident1 - is only living to that
CultureRe: Facts About The Yoruba Enclave In The Heart Of Aniocha In Delta State by NigerMan1: 9:48am On May 12, 2015
9jacrip:
I also had to withdraw from engaging those guys further.

They are not in anyway Yoruba yet attempt to dictate what Yoruba history should be and what it shoud entail.

I've put them on ignore list.
9jacrip - If you insist your Yoruba history must be told by you alone – then it's a tribal folklores and tales – not HISTORY!
CultureRe: Facts About The Yoruba Enclave In The Heart Of Aniocha In Delta State by NigerMan1:
macof:
I've decided to ignore the buffoon as I realized he was Esan
Imagine an Esan man who's history is largely unknown trying to teach Yorubas our language and history, teach Binis their history and yet declare that only Awori should talk about Awori grin
Imagine Awori are 100% uniquegrin
When next we need to learn about Aworis we either seek an Awori or an Esan man grin grin

The man is so pathetic and hypocritical

Best you ignore him brother, an Esan can never know the bonds of we Yorubas

Jst watch how he would quote me saying Yorubas are divided
What is the IMPORT of your latest slanting this DISCOURSE? Slanting to "Esan Man" bla bla bla.

What do you hope to achieve by this?

Look keep to the topic; diversion to personal attack or subtle tribal pointer won't help at all
Also you guys can't separate historical analyses from tribal folklores and tales. Sorry they are DIFFERENT; folklore are tribally based while history is globally based.

For example when some Europeans tells you about "Yoruba History" do you ask them to keep quiet?
PoliticsRe: Throwback Pictures Of Awolowo With His Helicopter by NigerMan1: 5:13am On May 11, 2015
hadizasaf:
See memories
I think I was a kid when he visited out state and landed in our police barrack in one of the norther states
I can't describe how I felt that day

I WISH OUR LEADERS REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT THE YOUNG ONES ARE VERY IMPRESSIONABLE

I BELIVE THAT SOMEDAY SOMEHOW NIGERIA WILL GET IT RIGHT AGAIN
Bro that was a BIG lie the old generation told the nation via the media. Nigeria NEVER got it right from inception. The evil you say today was actually PLANTED shortly before 1960 and firmly rooted in the 1960s and beyond.

Nigeria was built upon a BAD foundation.
PoliticsRe: Throwback Pictures Of Awolowo With His Helicopter by NigerMan1: 5:09am On May 11, 2015
Mccullum:
Great Awo, eithers the haters like him or not he still remain the best among his contemporaries from other regions during their period,? the only man in the world that managed the economy of his nation as minister of finance for 3 years war without borrowing kobo from any nation or int'l organisation, he's best president Nigeria never had. RIP
My bro please can you tell the did the rating that CONFIRMED Awo as "the best among his contemporaries from other regions..."

As for financing the war, that was NOT Awo's ingenuity, but OIL was flowing from the Niger Delta. The war was executed from the BILLIONS flowing from the Niger Delta, the reserves home and abroad.

PLUS - huge support were pouring in from powerful countries such as Britain in terms of weapons, trainings and plenty deals for the Fed Govt.
PoliticsRe: Throwback Pictures Of Awolowo With His Helicopter by NigerMan1: 6:25pm On May 10, 2015
Makapounse:
i don't know why igbo people hate this great man, if ojukwu and effiong didn't call for war , there wil no war in our great country. All blame is on those who thought they greater than Nigeria which resulted in to 30 months civil war, Nigeria must be 1 and Nigeria must great
My dear Ojukwu NEVER called for war. He announced SECESSION of his Region from Nigeria after his people were massacred in the North.

It was the Fed Govt that attacked Ojukwu. However the Fed Govt had no option then because the Old Eastern Region also comprises most of the present day South South where the OIL WELLS were based - the gold that fed (and still feeding) the nation.

As Gen Benjamin Adekunle said, "We fought for OIL not unity"
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 10:29pm On May 07, 2015
absoluteSuccess:
Claiming Yoruba makes Edo great.
absoluteSuccess - that's an unfortunate statement from you. Why should an Edo claim Yoruba? Where in Yorubaland will I claim? And for what reason?

I believe the guy made a mistake for saying YORUBA. The right thing was to specify the part of present day Yorubaland, such as old EKO.

Stating past incidents and events is not same thing as CLAIMING!!!

Please take it, we should not argue or throw jabs over FACTS that happened centuries ago.
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 10:18pm On May 07, 2015
OkeEsibe:
hahaha...i laugh
bt come tu think of it....
isnt it a shame ur slaves r more prosperous than u r..
OkeEsibe - please share some of your prosperity with me name! smileybbb grin
OkeEsibe:
hahaha...i laugh
bt come tu think of it....
isnt it a shame ur slaves r more prosperous than u r..
OkeEsibe - please share some of your prosperity with me nau! grin cheesy
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 10:13pm On May 07, 2015
FrancisTony:
Well, Edo is more closer and related to Yoruba than Igbo.
Most people I know call Edo, Yoruba.
My Uncle's wife is Edo and she said that most of the older men in her village answers Yoruba name.
Only newer generation bears Edo name.
By the way, she's from Ake, Owan Local government.

The only states people refer as Igbo in South-South is Rivers and Delta state(not all of them, anyway) owing to the fact that they have Indigineous Igbo population.
It's mighty difficult to qualify the Ikwerres as Igbo as you would people from Awka. The Ikwerre people of today have mixed ancestry, reason many of them hate being called Igbo.
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 10:10pm On May 07, 2015
FrancisTony:
Well, Edo is more closer and related to Yoruba than Igbo.
Most people I know call Edo, Yoruba.
My Uncle's wife is Edo and she said that most of the older men in her village answers Yoruba name.
Only newer generation bears Edo name.
By the way, she's from Ake, Owan Local government.

The only states people refer as Igbo in South-South is Rivers and Delta state(not all of them, anyway) owing to the fact that they have Indigineous Igbo population.
The Edos from those villages, from part of Owan, were Ancestrally Yoruba, but were enslaved and became part of old Benin Kingdom several Centuries ago. You also find them in Ondo as well, however they're mixed with other tribes and today are whole.

The Benin Kings NEVER enforced direct Benin/Edo language and culture on the people they conquered or ruled. Therefore it afford them to retain their father's names and identity, even when many of them became full blooded Edo.

The major features left behind by Benin were cultural influences, language/vowels, words, dialect, physical attributes, traditions, kingship, bloodlines, etc
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 9:55pm On May 07, 2015
Beface:
No tribe won carry last for Nigeria sha. Igbo want show, Yoruba want show,Hausa want Hausa and now Edo done join.
Beface - you are mixing present political abracadabra with history that dates back thousands of years. Or recorded history since 800 / 900 AD.

The OP simply stated an historical facts, but unfortunately you younger generation are not brought to appreciate history, plus our leaders have used politics cum economic interests to relegate our collective historical past.

No wonder you qualified this as 'showing off'
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 9:51pm On May 07, 2015
OgagaMic:
shuo I don tire omo ,, ,, den 1 enter my state tru Delta Igbos, omo na once we cut chain follow dem, dem feet take delta Igbos if dem want, ..... we re nt Biafra dem nor 1 hear word, na wa oo, Hausa/yoruba can't do without us Igbo want us so na only them go they eat oil money with no Hausa man... a beg e

God bless Nigeria., Proudly Urhobo man
Even almost all the Delta Igbo are EDOIDs - via slavery, resettlement, freedom etc.
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 9:48pm On May 07, 2015
macof:
No doubt Bini was one of Africa's greats but face Bini. Dont bring Yorubaland into ur nonsense
You aren't even Bini or yoruba
Una go dey take panadol for another man headache
Let Yoruba tell it's history
macof - I apologize on their behalf.
But learn to be civil, you easily spew INSULTIVE language without a second thought.

Let me add this: Over the years, I've heard worst statement from Yoruba about Edos, but we Edo hardly replied in kind. Anyway "two wrongs does not make a right" make you no vex my brother.
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 9:44pm On May 07, 2015
arazanbal:
Dnt say what u dnt knw.edo pple xpecialy d binis hav already been in existence b4 9ja was born nor to talk of Biafra,follow history well oo
Am disappointed many of you are fast in replying negative comments, than sharing facts. Am almost sure that fellow is NOT Igbo person, so bother about him.
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 9:40pm On May 07, 2015
Mzflexydeeva:
Under threat by? undecided
What do you mean by 'threat'
Do you mean the younger generation don't speak much? If yes, you have a point but not as bad as you think.

Am Esan, born and bred in Lagos. I understand and converse in my language.

The problem is more of Southern Nigeria issue as most core dialects are growing thin.
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 9:35pm On May 07, 2015
martineverest:
U must be dreaming,bro...urhobo is pure edo language
martineverest - this is history so it command utmost RESPECT when is being discussed because it may evokes emotion in some people.

Please do not insult anyone, but table facts so the fellow will learn. And remember History is not chest beating, but cordial exchanges of factual past.

Most people do not understand where their forefathers originated from, or were told half truths or pure lies, or combination, due to cultural EGO and political interest in modern Nigeria.

Without facts and figure and statistics most young people in Southern Nigeria, especially vast majority of present day Niger Delta, will find it difficult to believe they either originated from old Benin, ruled, controlled, influenced, captured as slaves, exposed to Europeans etc, by old Benin Kings.

Many will also disbelief that their Kings were installed by Benin, or given their titles/names, or have deep rooted cultural ties with Benin.

So careful analysis is utmost important; refrain from any iota of boastfulness. Even when you're insulted, don't replied same, just lay unassailable facts to speak to the conscience.

However if you are less knowledgeable, then go start learning the secrets of the age. This will set you apart from the crowd.
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 9:19pm On May 07, 2015
akthedream:
lol...you get am..I just don't know what they gain from trouble..most of them are very hard to please...give themm your house to stay and they will do everything to turn it to theirs in some years time...they are the only tribe in Nigeria that always claim other people's land apart from the fulani herds men.
akthedream - the Igbos don't claim anywhere as theirs. Please tell me where in Nigeria they claim as theirs?

Please don't turn this beautiful thread into Igbo bashing, you have nothing to benefit.
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 9:16pm On May 07, 2015
slapandfall:
W̶̲̥̅̊ђA̶̲̥̅t I mean exactly is that I cud only spot out Okpebho L.G.A cos I'm from edo central.

So I may not know of odas since ♍Ɣ scope doesn't Я̲̅ε̲̣̣̣̥ɑ̤̥̈̊lƔ cover apart from central.
Some of our dialect is even spoken in some areas of far portugal and brazil.. I'm very aware of dat. #welldone bro.
Am also from Esan Central. Do you know the reason Edo language is spoken in Portugal? When the Portuguese first landed, it was the Benin King they met as the most powerful ruler that covered most part of present day Southern Nigeria, down to Lagos.

They opened a diplomatic relations with Benin, which includes scholarship for Benin Princes, who later went with their slaves as well. Most returned with degrees in various discipline.

The relationship continue for many years; trade, commerce, education etc.
CultureRe: A List Of All Edo Dialects And Where Their Speakers Are Found. by NigerMan1: 6:42pm On May 07, 2015
slapandfall:
@OP.. I don't think this is a valid argument..

In No 16, and 20, I can see Okpebho local govt Area and u said it is part of Edo.. That is untrue..

There is no such local government in edo state.

That has long bein changed since God knows when.

I am a pure Ishan boy.. Ewossa from Igueben LGA of Edo State.. AAU Ekpoma Bred..
Yes you are right. But just correct him, his is 100% valid and historically true. In fact the EDOID dialect far extended than he listed

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