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@op - kindly give me evidence of igbo atrocities during the war. I'm waiting

Soyinka is the last real nigerian alive. The rest are sad husks of what might have been

Chai! See honour. RIP Odogwu!

dayokanu:
http://www.dawodu.net/midwest.htm

@ dayokanu - I checked the site hoping to see something that would engage me intellectually but all i saw was an article by omoigui where he refers to a tribunal of inquiry into the alleged atrocities but fails to quote the actual report or even quote one line. I emailed the writer asking for a copy of the tribunal's report. Wartime propaganda was easy those days but now in the internet age? its difficult to lie and not get caught

Quote from DUDU NEGRO

There were two events in Asaba.  

1.  The invasion by Biafra when it planted a newly designed flag and declared Republic of Benin as its domain. Biafra tortured and massacred the people of Mid Western State beginning at Asaba and moving westward into Bini.  
2. The second event was the entry of Ist and 2nd Division command of the Nigerian Army in a flank formation to bombard the Biafrans into submission and retreat and liberate Asaba.  

Coins have two sides, don't they?


@DUDU NEGRO - At the bolded portion. That my friend is an iron-clad, blatant, despicable LIE! I Challenge YOU to show me evidence of Biafran atrocities in the mid-west.

@ op- I am a xtian and I can die for my faith, however I cannot kill for my faith because I am not given such orders in my bible. This country can be a secular state if proponents of islam separate politics from their faith.

Thank you mr. scholes and mr. giggs. Show these newbies how its done!

alj harem:
Tell me 1 valuable lesson someone like my kid or your kid can learn from Ojukwu ? Just one

Why do you think South-south did not attend this lecture ? Na by mistake ? Certainly not

The lecture was convened by the Rivers State government , attended by the Governor and you are bending over backwards to prove a no-point that "south-south did not attend".
A change in the minds of people has already taken place so all this half baked motor park mantra - "he invaded our land ! bla bla bla " is soon going to be the opium of the backward and devilish. Like i said time has passed u by

alj harem:
I wonder what they would be collecting lectures for ? How to lead 3 million people and get them killed and abandon them midway only for you to comeback and you would be treated like a hero.

Or maybe invade other people's land and try to annex it to biafra calling it libration when they never asked to be librated.

What a load of horseshit. time has left you behind

Its very easy to find but it depends on where u are. Its available on dvd. in lagos there are loads of places you can get it. I am pretty sure u can get it at cms\obalende area where there are lots of guys peddling them or selling in shops. the movie tells a very accurate story, I must say. It doesn't go too heavy on details but you get the central message of who amin was

By the time I got to the last line of this interview, one question hung in the air - who really is henry okah and when\how did he become an authority on urban guerilla warfare?

Whether or not Tinubu was playing strategy, politics or whatever, the man said the truth, the motive is secondary if you ask me. Truth is key

@ cooldudeng - you are a very well brought up, intelligent chap. You will go very far in this life

@igbaodun - bianca was the reigning silverbird "most beautiful girl in nigeria" when ikemba as an old buckingham schooled player stepped in and swept her away. No be new thing for men of power and influence

Shuo! You dey beef ikemba because bianca fine or wetin. You know how many big men don marry beauty queens for this life. Abeg cool down.

@ igbaodun - do you hold anything sacred in this life at all?

Very interesting thread. Noticed its about 3 years old. Nairaland seems to have been more fun before. Now there's beef in every thread

Daaamn! No wonder mimiko always looks like just finished smoking a joint

^^ I have never seen such focused idiocy! Una sabi una selves before? Anyway una be babes so its not too strange

russellino:
I know not too many ppl know that an african-american mercenary was hired to take part in the kiriji (though I can't recall which side imported him) he was a veteran of the american civil war and was brought in to operate the then new Gatlin gun that the ppl didn't know how to operate. I heard he took a yoruba woman back as his wife. Can any scholars in d house shed more light on this? I heard this story from one old baba

Interesting stuff.Didnt know folks back in the day had the wisdom to import veterans from overseas. I'll google it

Why are we taunting yorubas over this issue? Soyinka is everybody's son as far as i am concerned not only yorubas o!. Lets not forget his sacrifices, role and sufferings as a friend of the igbos during the war.

BH are small fry for where Kongi dey. abacha and all his goons couldnt catch him how much more these drug addicted almajiris and their perverted leadership. Its just a shame that its an old man that has too be in the firing line, well what would his life be without adventure.

Na wa o! See cockroach trying to drive bugatti. Who knows this woodlice sef.

If i meet him anywhere i owe him a dirty slap for this statement. Small fry trying to feel important because he serves a politically frustrated sodomist called Atiku

Speechless

Kongi no dey fail. The man says it like is and demystifies every problem this country has faced with razor sharp wit and powerful words. The million dollar question is will GEJ ever listen to sages and like him and act. Its a pity this man is the evening of his life and he has to continue fighting for us, he should be lecturing in some university somewhere and enjoying his life without worrying about Nigeria's future.

Negro_Ntns:
@topic. . . . .technically, after years of terror, isnt that the same treatment that MEND got with its amnesty and training package?

^^^^

i totally disagree with the notion that MEND and BH are anywhere near similar.

1. Mend specialised in attacking infrastructure vital to the oil and gas industry, BH are firmly focused on claiming as many lives as they can to prove their point (which we know is not clear)

2. Mend were known for hostage taking with minimal loss of life compared to these BH animals, they even warn the authorities before they attack

3. They had a set and defined struggle which though was pursued by violent means, enjoyed grassroot support.  Does anybody remember the british hostage oil worker who identified with the militants struggle and refused to leave the camp even after his ransom had been paid.

4. BH are funded by desperate and fading oligarchs and are motivated by poverty, fanaticism, narcotics and demons to take as many innocent lives as they can by attacking people in their places of worship and in their offices. What do they want? today its non-xtians in the north, tomorrow they want southerners out, later they fighting to revenge against the govt. etc

The attack on kano was the last straw with over 200 dead in one day, dialogue with these beasts cannot happen unless GEJ wants his authority eroded and another somalia type power sharing system created. if he does so history will not forgive him

Illiteracy is a devastating weapon and the northern elite are exploiting it to the max.

Tambuwal just exposed himself here. When GEJ said ''they are in the executive and legislature, '' I guess he was referring to punks like this tambuwal creature.

imagine this cretin saying the ''Federal Government should forgive BH''.After all the mindless slaughter? What do these people take the legal system for? The only negotiations with these animals should be from the firing end of heavy artillery. God punish everyone of these a.s.s hole pokers.

We need to study how Czechs and Slovaks got separate states and work towards it fast!

Litmus:
Lebanese were in my backyard for years in warri. They lived in fear. No Lebanese could look down on me as a Nigerian. Nigerians are not Ghanians we're a proud people who value respect, let me tell you.  However If some poor Nigerian smiles and is hospitable to foreigners, as is our way, or fears for his job and some take advantage of this because they foreigners come from lands were people are exploitative of kindness then that is unfortunate for both parties. The Lebanese in Nigeria, in your part of the country, make a big mistake if they underestimate Nigerians.  

the Lebanese and Indians played significant roles in the horror that befell Sierra Leone and they should be kicked out of Nigeria or watched very carefully.

@bolded - really?

This is just terrible. When people were jubilating over the war against ghadaffi i was really worried over who would be in charge after he was removed and most important - the effects of the conflict on the rest of west africa, especially libya's neighbours. The conflicts in liberia and sierra leone brought the first major wave of arms (mainly small arms) into nigeria. We need to work on our borders o!

Thought provoking is putting it mildly. i dont know why most africans are like this.

Education is vital to the growth of any nation from the grassroots up. I was watching a documentary on a robot employed to carry out repairs in Southampton. That robot was designed and built by university students for crying out loud. What is the budget for education in nigeria? Its a pity

namfav:
the general consensus is, lets deal these through negotiations, dont let foreigners get involved in the first place america is broke, nigeria is not there concern, there are more dangerous people than shekau that america have to deal with, inside america and outside america. what we have here, that is what the elders say, that is what the  leaders say, lets respect that (no name calling and insults because it makes you sound like a uneducated illiterate) and find means for peace. anyone that thinks otherwise, does not know what is good for nigeria's long term

The leaders in the north are supposed to have influence over the youth and boko haram inclusive. Why did they not negotiate before they slaughtered innocent people in their places of worship on xmas day or murder 200 ppl including children playing at bompai barracks, kano,people who were running for their lives were shot under their beds and toilets. If the elders know what boko haram want it tells a lot about what everybody has been saying about boko haram and their backers. Is it now they want to negotiate because they have heard that US troops are coming

Hmm,  has GEJ goofed?

http://www.thisdayonline.com/

Plateau Indigenes Kick over Abubakar
26 Jan 2012
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Human rights lawyer, Mr. Femi Falana


•Falana eulogises FG over Ringim’s removal

From Seriki Adinoyi in Jos

Indigenes of Plateau State last night expressed anger over the appointment of Alhaji Mohammed Dikko Abubakar as acting Inspector General of Police (IG) following the removal of Alhaji Hafiz Ringim from the office by President Goodluck Jonathan.
But a Lagos lawyer, Mr. Femi Falana, has eulogised the Federal Government for its guts in getting Ringim out of office.

Expressing rage over the appointment, the member representing Jos-South/Jos-East constituency in the House of Representatives, Honourable Bitrus Kaze, told THISDAY that: “It is amazing to me that at a time when Nigeria is witnessing a spate of terrorism, a man who has been indicted by the Justice Nikki Tobi Commission of Inquiry into the September 2001 crises in Jos, and recommended for dismissal from the police force by the commission, is the one found fit to lead the Nigerian Police.

“It is disheartening that those who have mentored terrorism in Nigeria are being asked to lead the police against the same terrorism. I cannot imagine it; I am shocked beyond words.”

In another reaction, the Special Assistant to Governor David Jang, Mr. Clinton Garuba, said it was disheartening and alarming that the president could appoint Abubakar as the IG.

He said: “AIG Abubakar is incompetent and lacks the credibility of a leader, and has been recommended for sack for his role in the 2001 crises in Plateau State by the Justice Niki Tobi Commission of Inquiry.”

He added that “…at a time when the president himself has acknowledged that the Boko Haram sect has infiltrated his government, it is only logical that he appoints someone with a proven integrity and track record of performance to head the Nigerian Police, which is in a seeming position of helplessness due to bad leadership. We therefore call on the Senate, in the interest of Nigerians, not to confirm his appointment.”

Also speaking, a legal practitioner in the state, Mr. Harun Audu, said: “…though the prerogative lies with the president on the recommendation of the Police Service Commission to appoint whoever he feels competent, it will be wise for him to avail himself of every piece of information that will guide him in making a right choice.”
He said as a resident of Jos, “I am aware that M D Abubakar has some questions to answer concerning his performance and disposition in the 2001 Jos crisis”.

“I am also aware that he was found wanting by a commission of inquiry headed by no less a person of Justice Nikki Tobi. Perhaps, the president feels that the indictment is not damaging enough to affect his decision.
“I only think that the president stands the risk of being accused of insensitivity, considering that Justice Nikki Tobi report and recommendation is not a secret document, and has made a serious recommendation on the career of the person of M D Abubakar,” Audu said.

Abubakar was alleged to have masterminded the killings of Christians in Jos in 2001.
The Justice Tobi panel constituted in September 2001 by former Governor Joshua Dariye on the Jos crises had recommended his retirement from the Police Force.

The panel had said: “Religious fanatics should not be posted to head state police commands. The commission recommends that for his ignoble role during the September 2001 crises, which resulted in the loss of lives, the former Commissioner of Police, Plateau State Command, Alhaji M.D. Abubakar, be advised to retire from the Nigeria Police Force and in the event of his refusal to do so, he should be dismissed from the service. The government should forward the recommendation to the Police Service Commission for consideration and necessary action.”

Meanwhile, Falana in a statement, said: “In spite of intensive pressure mounted on the presidency to retain Mr. Hafiz Ringim as the IGP, the Federal Government has eventually removed him from office in the national interest.

“The government deserves commendation for plucking up the courage to sack the police boss. The ex-IGP should however be made to account for the two leading Boko Haram suspects who escaped or were released by him and Mr. Zakari Biu.”

Falana further said: “The new IGP should see his appointment as a challenge to redeem the battered image of the police. Check points that have become extortion centres should be dismantled as beggars in police uniform on the highways are prone to compromise national security.

“The Nigeria Police Force should be repositioned to combat the menace of terrorism, armed robbery and other violent crimes. To do this effectively, Abubakar will have to restore the confidence of the Nigerian people in the police.”