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@afam my response is based on this account of the events of 1966 coup, hence i would do my best not to respond to any attempt to disgress into other unrelated issues.

Below are your quoted statements and my responses to them.

Apologies for making such a long post (considering that even i myself hate reading long posts), i just had to make an exhaustive but yet polite rebuttal of the points raised by Afam.

I am an Igbo man to the core, I don't believe in tribal wars or ethnic superiority complex neither do I spread any hate towards any tribe or ethnic group in Nigeria.

However, as an Igbo man whenever I see lies or misinformation being bandied around about my people I do my best to comment on the issues raised.

Stick to whatever issues you have with the Igbos and I will respond to them if need be, no need personalizing anything as you would have noticed that my post did not address anyone in particular.

When a tribe or ethnic group is being maligned based on lies and misinformation with the intention to sow hatred I don't see any need to inject humour because we are talking about serious issues that have led to the death of many innocent people in the past.

- Your statements are a typical example of what is called straw man arguments.

- It is clear as daylight that i have not personalised anything infact i have gone a great deal to avoid personal attacks even though most of the Igbos that were responding to me have intentionally made personal attacks.

- Point of correction, my humour was directed at specific individuals of which you were one. Hence this is not an attempt to poke fun at a race of people. That you choose not to respond to the friendly humour is your choice and loss. I am not here to make enemies hence if u choose to take a battling stance in the whole issue is ur choice.

- Igbos are not being maligned based on lies as far as the 1966 coup is concerned, even an Igbo diplomat (Bernard Odogwu) - who is supposed to be very good at dancing around a sensitive topic cus of his job as a diplomat ended up giving an account showing that even he himself could not reconcile what the Igbos did during 1966. So please stop the misinformation method of saying people are lying against Igbos in terms of the events of 1966.

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When educated people begin to debate rather in an unintelligent manner I worry way to much and wonder if the so called younger generation would not be far worse if given the opportunity to lead this nation.

1. The Nigerian 5 Majors responsible for the coup had a yoruba man in it so calling the coup an Igbo coup is both wong and shameless.

2. What some military men did without consulting the Igbos cannot be held against the Igbos to the extent of having innocent Igbos massacred in the Northern part of the country.

- By which i would take that you are saying i am one of the educated but unintelligent individuals engaging in a discussion. Do you not think that is quite a low blow to throw within an intellectual discussion, considering u have claimed not to take things personal and yet here u are making it not only personal but outright insulting.

- Please stop trying to whitewash history, i really find it disgusting and an attempt at igbo propaganda.

- The historical records were obtained from all sources from all ethnic groups, hence this is not an attempt to lie against the Igbo, history of 1966 coup shows clearly that Igbos set out solely to take over and dominate Nigeria by eliminating Yorubas/Hausas from government while leaving and protecting their Igbo brethren within the same government. It does not take a rocket scientist to see that, hence how you do not see it is beyond me.

- It was not a mistake by a few military men, it was a calculate and well planned action by significant and influential Igbos of that time both in politics and in the military. So please stop trying to whitewash what is glaring for all to see.

- History did not say some Igbo men did something. History said Igbo Military men in connection with Igbo politicians participated and excuted the 1966 coup. It is not a matter of some rogue elements it was a calculated attempt. Your highest ranking Politician at that time "Nnamdi Azikwe" knew about the coming slaugther of Yorubas and Hausa that he specifically planned his get away from Nigeria in advance of the coup. Ifeajuna killed his own mentor. Igbo coup plotters where specifically protected from punishment by other Igbos in government. There was a celebrated sense of job welldone within some quarters amongst the Igbos. So please don't even try to bullshit me with false rage. For example, Nnamdi Azikwe knew well in advance that his Yoruba and Hausa counterparts in government where going to experience effects of a coup, yet he specifically choose to asbcound and thus ultimately protect Igbo interest. So please stop this attempt at whitewashing the history of 1966 coup, it was not a mistake by a few military men, it was a calculated attempt by well placed Igbos in position of power.

- Your mention of the fact that you classify what is there for everyone to read as lies is quite baffling, even when the report shows that wat happened in 1966 was not just about Igbo Soldiers but Igbo politicians in general. Hence it was not an issue of lies but rather a calculated murder on Yoruba/Hausa politicians in 1966.
Your attempt to whitewash history of 1966 and then still try to play neutral is disgusting to say the least.

- History shows that the Yoruba men involved where intentionally and strategically prevented from holding any position that might have jeaopardised the coup. Hence the coup was plotted and executed solely to further Igbo interest.

- Saying the truth as it is (which is there for everyone to read and see from the historical records) is not wrong and shameless, instead that is what a truthful bible person would actually do.

- Those who know me on this thread know that i bash Hausas and Yorubas and Igbos when they are in the wrong. However your attempt at whitewashing what happened in 1966 in favour of the Igbos only goes to show what i said when i said that in general and in comparison to other ethnic groups, Igbos generally have the mentality of thinking that the end justifies the means. Hence partly why most Igbos seem not to realise that they threw the first stone that started the retaliation of other nigerians against.

- One astonishing fact that i also find disgusting is that despite that Yorubas have attacked alongside Hausas by the Igbos, still Yorubas have been honourable enough not to retaliate (like the Hausas have done) , infact history shows that in all that has happened a few Yorubas have gone as far as even given their lives to protect Igbos. Talk about an ungrateful students of history shior,

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5. The Igbos can and will prosper with natural resources found even only in the 5 core Igbo states.

6. Love the Igbos or hate them, you can never ignore them anytime you see them.

7. In terms of academics it is also clear where the Igbos stand in this country thanks to objective statistics from examination bodies being run mostly by non Igbos.

8. Let people continue to mask their envy and jealousy with claims of arrogance and pride.

9. El-Rufai made a report some years ago that over 63% of the lands in Abuja are owned by the Igbos yet I am sure the original master plan did not apportion 63% of the land to the Igbos. Igbos through their businesses have made money and wown considerable number of lands in places like Lagos and Rivers and yet tribalists and ethnic bigots are busy looking for ways to say nonsense about the Igbos.

- its sad that all u said and quoted above is the same mentality of Igbos that i am talking about. What does your irrelevant melodrama and use of eulogical sentences have to do with the issue of 1966 Coup. This topic is based on 1966 coup and i would advise you stay on topic.

- your mention of 63% land ownership in abuja is irrelevant to this topic cus this topic is about 1966 coup and what the Igbo did then. Moreover landownership in a corrupt Nigerian city such as Abuka is not a measure of success but rather a measure of how much the Igbos have benefitted from the slicing and dicing of the national cake by engaging themselves in corrupt dealings. Considering that the common man knows that it is next to impossible for an honest and non-corrupt nigerian to have access to land ownership in Abuja. The frequent revocation of CofO and destruction of illegal structures in Abuja attests to this. Hence it baffles me why and how u think the issue of land ownership relates to the topic at hand.

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It is sad that before going through your post, i actually though you were objective and neutral as you claim, however going through your post and seeing the reasoning behind it, only goes to prove my point that:

- You are trying to whitewash what happened in 1966.

- Igbos are still not remorseful about what they did in the 1966 coup

- Igbos do not realise that they started and created the military mess in Nigeria by engaging in a tribalistic military coup that caused other ethnic groups to react violently.

- Igbos do not realise that they were the ones that first threw the first punch in a fight with the other ethnic groups, hence why i find it disgusting when Igbos always seem to want to play the victim card.

- Nigerians reacted to Igbo treachery of 1966 coup and instead of remorse, Biafra was the reaction.

- If Igbos had not tried to take over Nigeria through a military coup favouring Igbos in the first place, there would not have been cause for Igbos to want to create a Biafra, considering that Biafra was just another attempt of Igbos to dominate and control a country of their own all by themselves.



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@nuzo

Please i am time constrained hence i would still try to respond to your own posting later, when i can.


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CHEERS EVERYONE.

No2Atheism:
@afam
you people no even get shame na triple team (asha, afam, nuzo) u dey do me,  .

Afam:
I am an Igbo man to the core, I don't believe in tribal wars or ethnic superiority complex neither do I spread any hate towards any tribe or ethnic group in Nigeria.

However, as an Igbo man whenever I see lies or misinformation being bandied around about my people I do my best to comment on the issues raised.

Stick to whatever issues you have with the Igbos and I will respond to them if need be, no need personalizing anything as you would have noticed that my post did not address anyone in particular.

My statement which u quote and which i am also quoting was not meant as a personal reference but as a joke and an attempt to inject humour into the discussion towards you three.

The little you have experienced of me should have already given u the idea that i do not do personal attacks, no matter how much people try to prod me to do it (although i am still not 100% perfect sha)

@afam
you people no even get shame na triple team (asha, afam, nuzo) u dey do me,  .

@nuzo
i would endeavour to get to your post later, cus sincerely speaking i do not want to respond again for now.

chineke, bia wayo wayo o hope say no be only me go do reply to that your micro-thesis above. I think i would pass for now and come back to it later as i go to do something else on nairaland .

Onlytruth:
@ No2Atheism

Keep deceiving yourself. The Igbos messed up in 1966 just like the MEND is "messing" you up today.
For a craven (cowardly) nation like the yoruba, the worst crime you can commit is to dare; to brave a situation. That's why they will never understand the patriotic Nzeogwu coup. That is why Abiola could not be president. That is why they are busy killing themselves in the west instead of daring to face Hausa to change the system from the center. That is why that coward Obasanjo effectively did all he could to die in office. He was too scared of life without power. To the yoruba, Nigeria can become the worst nation in the world; just don't do anything! Pls shhhhh, tip toe, tip toe, don't try anything e jo!

"The future does not belong to the faint hearted, it belongs to the brave" - Ronald Reagan (after the Challenger tragedy)

keep up with the melodrama and the academic jingoism of quoting statments, moreso that your quote is from a white man who clear had racism in him.

All that you have done still does not wish away what the Igbos did in 1966.

asha 2:
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And if i say that with my experience of yoruba culture having spent sometime in Omu in Ekiti state that yorubas are backstabbers and treacherous what will you say also using Awolowo action for reneging his agrement with Ojukwu?

1. Then Awolowo is wrong to have renegaded on an agreement, nevertheless that still does not wish away what happened in 1966.

2. Then you would be justified in making your statment assuming off course your were actually backstab in Omu Ekiti and u did not only add such statements for the melodramatic effects of it.

I have not come here telling you Yorubas are saint, all i have mentioned to you is the following:

- Igbos bleeped up big time in 1966 and Biafra.
- Igbos brought their predicament on themselves.
- Igbos are about to repeat the same mistakes all over again if igbo comments on nairaland are anything to go by.

asha 2:
You made this statement before and i ignored it.You are repeating it again.If it is a case "means justifying the end' with igbos i wonder why the racket tha was bursted in new york recently has a dispropotionate no of yorubas in it to th extent that a title "yoruba gang busted?" exists in nigeriavillagesquare .com.
I am also sure people behind "my pikin" epsisode that killed children where igbos.

Yes Yorubas have criminals amongst them.
Yes Hausas have criminals amongst them.
Yes Igbos have criminals amongst them.

However i am sorry to say this but its an open secret that in terms of proportionality both within and outside Nigeria and based on my own experience of Igbo culture, it is easy for you and I to understand that Igbos more susceptible to have the character of the end justifying the means and are thus more easily found in cases that are either fraudulent or criminal in nature.

Also in as much as it pains me to say it, Hausas tend to have the least number of criminals amongst the ethinic groups in nigeria, hence why u hardly find them on the news as a result of such cases of criminality.

You need to understand my point that this is not a case of Igbo bashing on my part, this is more of interpreting and revealing the data as provided by 1966 coup.

[quote author=Aloy.Emeka link=topic=298478.msg4212859#msg4212859 date=1247994770]1. Do you know there were Yorubas in that 1966 coup?. should we blame the Yoruba nation for what happened in 1966?

2. What about the massive looting by subsequent leaders like Obasanjo, abacha etc. should igbos cross their legs, do nothing  and cry ebewu because Yorubas and hausas looted the national treasury?. You sound like black americans that cry the effect of slavery is holding them from success in todays America. Few igbos planned a coup, then it's the whole igbos and Yorubas should now hate all igbos because of a queue planned by a select few. Do you know that igbos are the most independent minded tribe in Nigeria?. If you believe that, why blame all because of the few that planned a queue?. Also, blame every igbo man for one igbo armed robber that robbed you in Okitipupa. Kitikpa gbakpoo anya ebe anwa.[/quote]I would ignore the melodramatic part of  your post.

Go back and read your history books again, Igbos specifically spear headed the coup and specifically made sure Yorubas did not get involved in any strategic area of the coup, obviously because the coup mainly targetted Yorubas and Hausas, hence its understandable that the Yorubas that participated had little bearing on the execution of Yorubas and Hausas and the sparing of the Igbos.

jookco:
Onye Ana eku nwere Ihe ona eme, The Igbo level is rising everyday, I'm very proud of my self to have come from the tribe of Judah, This is the only tribe in Nigeria that have the highest % of Christians, 99% of Igbo choose Christian as their religion and that's why God blessed them with everything, Igbos alone contribute 40% to the Nigerian economy, we have the lowest poverty rate in Nigeria , despite hausas and yerubas being in Government still Igbos rule Nigeria in every area of life, we own properties in every conner of Nigeria, so tell me why you won't be jealous?

Please focus on the topic of this thread and stop the melodrama, u can do your propaganda another time but not now, lets have a reasonable and non melodramatic discussion here.

Why are you people trying to divert this thread, can't u for once admit a wrong doing, I really dislike this kind of attitude amongst Igbos. Why is it that the end always justifies the means as far as igbos are concerned.

I tut people of Niger Delta were responsible for 90%.

Christianity is not a numbers game, even though i would admit and come Igbos for having little or no islamic terrorist amongst their midst.

asha 2:
For no1 are you aware that clashes between igbo and hausa started way before 1966?Do you know about 1953 riots in kano?

For no2 distrust between the igbo ad yoruba started way back in 1948 when there whare clashes between the youths from the 2 groups.

For no3 which tribe actually trusts each other?

Yep i know and i agree with your views about the fact that problem runs deeper. The point i am trying to make is that Igbos started the blood letting amongst the tribes. Before that times it was more or less just socio-political clashes and inter-regional rivalry that sometimes resulted in loss of live.

What happened in 1966 completely changed the face of the game, to pure outright bloodletting on a national scale via the use of the military.

nuzo:
Now that we've all known that the whole of nigeria and her tribes hate and distrust the Igbo of which I and most Igbos can never lose sleep over, why shout "one nigeria" when you and other nigeians have come out clear to state that there's nothing like that?
Why not let these hated set of people go? Why was the Biafran war sabotaged?
Why keep somebody you hate and distrust this much around your house?
Why?

As I await your honest answers, I want to thank you for making public your long secret hatred public instead of using the Biafran issue to indirectly insult the Igbos.
Bravo to you.

From today onwards, you have my respect.

You are confusing me with some other people.

I do not hate the igbos otherwise i would not have joked that i could marry one. Remember i willing choose to live amongst Igbos even when i had the choice not to.

I am not against Biafra, what i am against is the victim card the igbos tend to play (which has now been shown to be unfounded cus they started the blood letting themselves in 1966).

I have said countless number of times that Yorubas (including me) do not care if Igbos secede or not, its the corrupt leaders that are against that of which Igbos are also part of the corrupt leaders so stop deceiving urself into thinking that Yorubas are the ones stopping ur considering that Igbos have participating and benefitting from the sharing of the national cake with little or nothing to show for it either in terms of Biafra or in terms of development in Igbo land.

The issue here is that Igbos have started to repeat the same mistakes Biafra war, and 1966 whereby they are seeking to achieve their aim by any means possible without regards to the fact that its not possible to do so considering that no Ethnic group would sit down and watch their own interests trampled upon by Igbos.

I do not seek your respect, hence it is of no consequence to me, people that know me on the religious threads no that i am not one that shies away from saying the truth even if its not in my own personal interest to do so. The truth in this case is that Igbos bleeped up in 1966 end of story. Does that mean Hausa did not mess up later on also , nope. Does that also mean Yorubas did not mess up later on also, nope.

The point of discussion in this case is the event of 1966 how it has come to shape Nigerian history till then.

[quote author=Aloy.Emeka link=topic=298478.msg4212788#msg4212788 date=1247992961]I can see how igbos that reason like you love Yorubas and hausas so much. stop lumping people together my fren, I thought you claim a complete knowledge of the bible and you are God's vicar. Tribalism and haterd no dey the bible wey you dey read?. Yorubas don't trust igbos, igbos don't trust yorbas and so on and so forth. It's not a one way lane and I expect you, being a child of the most high God to find a way to put an end to the madness and not fueling it.[/quote]@Aloy.Emeka why are u wasting ur time with melodrama, i am not into melodrama.

The topic here is about the truth of what happened in 1966 and how it has shaped and affected Nigerian history. That singular event bleeped up Nigeria so bad we are still yet to recover from it 43 yrs after.

What worries me is that the same attitude the culiminated in 1966 and disastrouse Biafra war is also starting to take root once again amongst Igbos.

nuzo:
What do you mean by downfall? Does it mean not having a shot at the presidency in order to loot the economy? Or, are you mistaking a struggle for a justice, better life and rejection of corruption as "downfall"?
I am asking because I dont see how the Igbos appear to have fallen more than other tribes.

I do not support any corrupt Igbo, Yoruba or Hausa man hence i am not a supporter of the sharing of the so called national cake.

What i mean by downfall is that:

- They caused Hausas to hate them based on what they did to the Hausas during the first coup
- They caused most of the other tribes to completely distrust them based on the past and present antecdents.
- They cause Yorubas not to trust them based on how they have treated Yorubas in the past.

nsibidi101:
it's funny how yorubas just love to pass themselves off as pure and holy, the ones who never put a foot wrong.I dont support uprisings but with or without volumes of history it is clear to any unbiased umpire why nzeogwu of blessed memory carried out a coup and what he hoped to achieve with it.it clearly was not an igbo agenda. unfortunately some officers in a miscalculated move spared their igbo targets.anybody can twist it any which way they like though.
anyhow the yorubas are clever, I give that to them.
1.they recognise igbos as competitors and so are welcome to any tactics that is hatched to exclude them from the helm of affairs.
2.they turn a blind eye when igbos are killed up north.isn't it better for them when the igbo population is drastically reduced?
3.they always like to appear as the 'good people' and dont waste time when it comes to bash igbos at every opportunity.

Please spare me the jauxtaposing bullshit about miscalculation , if it were a miscalculation then Nnamdi Azikwe would not have been spared and warned in advance.

Even an Igbo man gave an account that he could not reconcile the fact that only Yorubas and Hausas were killed, so please spare me the few bad eggs bullshit.

amarilo:
I never believed yorubas are this stupid or is it just you? Are by any means related to becomerich and okokomije?

You neeed to ask around about me on nairaland, i do not do insults. I deal with referenced facts and discussion. So please stop the melodrama.

[quote author=Aloy.Emeka link=topic=298478.msg4212708#msg4212708 date=1247990223]Oyinda, you probably think BecomeRich is igbo. He creates an average of 5 hate topics against igbos everyday. Others are tpiah/Arnold/texcee[3 tribalists in one woman], No2atheism[another tribalist hypocrite claiming to hold the keys to heaven through his correct practice of the bible], etc.

I guess u know me enough to know that such melodrama does not work on me,


There are igbo tribalists here too but should they attack Yorubas because of the few bad eggs in their midst and vice versa?. I bet you, come here tomorrow and you must see another Biafra this and that as a new thread.[/quote]@Aloy.Emeka i certainly hope u are not without conscience enough to try to justify wat happened in 1966.

Yes their are bad eggs in Yorubas
Yes their are bad eggs in Hausas
Yes their bad eggs in Igbos.

Nevertheless wat happened in 1966 was not a matter of bad eggs, instead it was a calculated and intentional action by Igbos and not just a few bad eggs. It was calculated enough that Nnamdi Azikwe knew about it in advance and intentionally left Nigeria and did not even bother to inform people marked for death but which he also claim to be their friends.

One thing is for sure in all of these Yorubas have suffered a lot from both sides , and yet we have endeavoured to play the neutral party despite that Igbos and Hausas killed Yorubas alongside during their coups.


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@others

I would really advise people to please read the material on that link, it is quite revealing up on till now i used to think the 1966 coup was patriotic, however now i know it was not but that it was basically an calculated and executed Igbo action against Yorubas and Hausas.

No wonder Nigeria has been so bleeped up since and no wonder Hausas have made sure they dominated the military since then (since the were seriously wounded during the 1966 coup).

[quote author=oyinda. link=topic=298478.msg4212696#msg4212696 date=1247989932]i will read the article but i'm just wondering how objective it is.
i know igbos create lots of hate topics but i won't support hate topics from yorubas either.
but then, i haven't read the article. . . yet lol[/quote]Please read, you would be suprised to realise that Igbos caused their own downfall, which makes me all the more miffed as to how they have the audacity to claim the victim card.

I have never understood this end justifies the means mentality from Igbos even while i was living amongst u , i still did not understand why you sometimes sacrifise your conscience for your success.

The issue here is not whether anyone wants to hold u done, as far as i keep saying. Yorubas do not care if u go or leave.

What bothers me is that I used to also think the 1966 coup was a nationalistic coup until i now realise that it was actually a tribal massacre of Hausas and Yorubas by Igbos, hence basically the Igbos were not victims in any way. It was inevitable that there was going to be a counter coup from either the Hausas or Yorubas considering what the Igbos did by killing Yorubas and Hausas.

Despite all these, Yorubas never did a counter coup, instead it was the Hausas that decided to retaliate. Yet despite all that Igbos still have the audacity to accusse Yorubas of treachery, you people really do not have any shame. Despite all wat the Igbos did in 1966, a Yoruba man (Adekunle Fajuyi) decided to give his own life for an Igbo man (Aguyi Ironsi) out of loyalty and honour, yet you Igbos still have the audacity to claim the victim card.

What a pity.
What a pity.

Nnamdi Azikwe knew about the coup and did not even bother to warn his friends about their impending deaths. I used to think Zik was honourable, at least now i know better.

Ifeajuna killed his own mentor for goodness sake, how can someone be so heartless.

[quote author=Aloy.Emeka link=topic=298478.msg4212649#msg4212649 date=1247988975]Same question baffles me. If Igbos are treacherous, despicable, daunting etc. Why make efforts to hold them back in Nigeria. Shouldn't they be a very big liability to lay off?. Igbos on the other hand will agree to lay off the north in a jiffy[I mean today today and not tomorrow] even if it means losing all their properties there.[/quote] but dat is d same mentality dat made an Igbo man kill his own mentor, haba do you not have a conscience and sense of shame, do you realise that Nigerian might have been different if such a coup had not existed. Do you realise that Nigerian might have been different if Igbos did not kill only Yorubas and Hausas.

I once said on this forum that i can marry an Igbo, now i am beginning to reconsider, considering that I have experienced the same kind of end justifies the means mentality in from Igbos.

i think i just lost respect for Nnamdi Azikwe after briefly reading the opening pages of the link. No wonder the Igbos have been having problems. They started the whole mess in the first place. Funny enough the Yorubas still did not retaliate against them despite that Yoruba and Hausas were not spared.

It can only take a non-repentant mind not to realise that Igbos brought the mess upon themselves.

Diva1:
Let's be real here. It's not even about the beauty, but other things in general. Have you heard the way they speak? It sounds too local in my case, considering this is the first Nigerian reality show, a lot of people world wide would be watching this, i'm sure the average Nigerian doesn't even speak like that. Also what is the plot? I haven't seen D-banj in there not to talk of the activities. Maybe I missed out those parts. It is funny not so bad but they can do better even the editing. Who shows 10minutes of moping the floor lol? I believe they can do better.

Its their first time and from what i see the tried considering that:

1. helps with non-nigerian international audience if they actually have an accent and not pretend not to have one.
2. the moping of the floor part and the using of brooms to sweep the floor part is the one that i find ridiculous.
3. Chk facebook they have an account on facebook with the pictures showing that D-Banj has actually visited at least once,

By the way Diva1 i think its high time u change ur profile picture, its kinda old now, don't u think, even my future great grand daughter has started going to college since u put up that particular picture on ur profile.

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=298440.msg4212490#msg4212490 date=1247984292]lets leave Fawcett out of this. She's dead. _{unless you have some proof her illness was related to anal sex?}

I mean diaper, not sanitary pad.


As per your claim of 10 sex in one day   You do know a man ejaculates and when that happens, something is draining out of him? He loses energy and some other things. There's a lot of physical activity involved and it takes time to refill the vacuum created.

So yes, sex ten times in one day means you should get yourself to a doctor because you may be having prostate problems.

Not to mention I doubt you've ever had sex at all or else you wouldnt be making such a claim. Could also be a tall tale I guess.[/quote]Tpia don't mind him let him keep boasting as if he has a 10liter keg for a scrotum. If have sex 10 times, does that mean u ejaculated 10times a day or does that mean you ejaculated 10times multiplied by at least 2 or something.

assume you at least last for 1hour per sex (assuming u include one round, then pre-intimacy, then freakineess, digging and all other sorts of things that your mind can think of) that means u have sex for at least 10 hours a day out of 24hours for just one round of sex per hour.

Now since u need to at least sleep for 6 hours implies u have only 8 hours left to work, eat, cook and do ur chores.

please give me a break, someone is not telling the truth here .

Even porn stars are not known to spend 10hours a day having sex,

Every ejaculation drains the scrotum and the seminal fluids, and common knowledge says that it takes at least 24hours to get back to the same level of semen and fluids needed for a proper ejaculation.

i have seen the pictures of the ladies and to be sincere its not as bad as you people are claiming it to be. I have not watched it but at least the pictures is not as bad, maybe they are not all goodlooking but i doubt its a complete disaster.

LadyT how did u manage to do the african weave for the white lady considering that i heard its difficult to do for their hair.

na so jare oyinda, how u dey, u see i don leave the two love birds and yes fine thank you my neck is now alright  

[quote author=tpia. link=topic=298440.msg4212452#msg4212452 date=1247983162]show me a man who can have sex 10 times daily and I'll show you he's in urgent need of medical care and a real JOB.


All these guys shouting anal sex- if the woman develops rectum problems, una go still like am? Just wondering. Una fit sex somebody with diaper? [/quote]tpia , nice one, i think some naive people are watching too much pornography not to realise that anal sex is really gross, shior

Diva1:
Lol, anal sex in my case is wayyy tooo freaky but the role playing, dressing as a nurse and such, I personally don't see anything wrong in it, it could be an exciting way to spice up your marriage in the sexual aspect, husband and wife. You know something different for your husband. As for the sex 10x a day, that depends on the individual lol.
Leaving the Bible out of this, to me, it just doesn't feel decent. That's where one defaecates and health wise problems. I just can't pin-point a particular reason.

Diva1 thank you jare, i still do not understand why i clean ground up man would leave the main duct [/b]and decide to dip his thing inside the [b]sewer through which shit is coming out, so gross,

Abuzola:
The christ[/b]ian are the anti [b]christ from all perspective, they did what jesus never did, they transgress , what happen to thousand of jesus teaching gospel rejected by constantine. A word is enough for the wise

Mallam abuzola even [i]Confus[/i]cious would want to change his name to[b] [i]Smart[/i]icious[/b] because of you.

by the way Toyosi before i go, thanks for being so don't u realise that[b] i almost broke my neck[/b] checking out your profile pic

me flirt i dare not flirt , this that i have seen that she is confessing her love for you in swahili , make i leave you two love birds alone as i go lick my wounds.

hmm this is really love in tokyo btw nokia[b] nguage[/b] and toyosi, me is jealous   you too should not blind us for nairaland oh.

by the way, Toyosi r u really sure u are a full blooded nigerian. I am still trying very hard to convince myself that you are, U have traits that say u are not, unless off course u a space alien masquerading as a nigerian.

@topic

- virginity.
- shit from your ass.
- spoken words.

use honey instead of sugar, by the way please stay away from all forms of artificial sweetners.

Honey is ur best bet if u have a sweet tooth. And off course remember to use the honey with moderation.

[quote author=Tudór link=topic=293187.msg4211746#msg4211746 date=1247962167]"since atheism is inherently based on evolution" - this is embarassing even from you No2Atheism. You claim to be a researcher yet in your years of research you havent found out atheism even existed before the evolution theory - i'm ashamed of you!

Your hypocrisy is stunningly stupid!
You say the US invaded iraq based on lies and here you are a bible-kisser who should probably know from leviticus and numbers that the biblical moses invaded lands and commited genocide and ethnic cleansing claiming an imaginary god promised them the land. Why are you complaining? Afterall bush claimed god told him to invade iraq, if god can speak to moses to commit genocide why can't he send bush to invade and depose the sinner saddam hussein See the double standards you blatantly display here. You accuse me of having inferiority complex yet you swallow the white man's religion, embrace the bible compiled and translated by him. You peddle his god the same god that sanctioned him enslaving our fore fathers. . .Again why are you complaining?? God has simpky sent them to come enslave us again.I'm sure guys here don't know about your stupid and lame attempt to label jesus a black man. Who am i kidding they'll probably accept, infact for these anti westerns, it'll be the best news they've heard all their life albeit false. I laugh at you all [/quote]I do not do personal attacks, it is not my thing, continue with it as much as you want and knock yourself out with it.

Secondly, i would not want to derail this thread since i suspect that this might be your intent, so as to cover up your own failures. Nevertheless let me give a brief rebuttal.

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Yes the word "Evolutionary theory" might recent, the concept of evolution (i.e. an existence of life without a Creator had existed in one form or another even before then, Evolution Theory was basically the bringing together of past ideas)

Let the facts speak for themselves and then kindly tell inform us (on another thread and not this one):

- How life began without evolution.
- The atheist explanation for the non-existence of a Creator, since you want to claim that evolution is not inherent to atheism.

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Any further references to atheism debate on this thread from you would not be responded to cus i do not want you to derail this thread,

I never knew i was this popular so much so that even bindex and tudor are now mentioning me on topic which i have not posted anything and which has nothing to do with me personally. . . . . . . . wonders shall never end on nairaland.

Imagine Tudor and Bindex are so worried about protecting the "White Messiah" based on wat else but  western indoctrination and their past pre-atheism image of who the Messiah looks like.

Tudor ur conversion to Atheism is not yet complete, considering that you are still fighting for and holding on to a white image of the Messiah.

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By the way, @tudor stop lying behind my back, i never condemned everyone apart from myself to hell, even though i am not afraid to tell the truth exactly as it is written in the bible (which u do not believe in by the way, hence should not be so worried about)

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@tudor

u obviously have an ego problem, considering that you are going out on threads that have nothing to do with and then mentioning my name, cus i refuse to be indoctrinated by European lies even when i have shown you from the bible what the Creator Himself said (it was not my interpretation, it was not a translation, i literarily showed you where the Creator Himself said the Isrealites were like the Ethiopians, and funny enough the last time i checked, i am yet to see a white ethiopian)

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@bindex, learn not to join bandwagon mentality, it helps to have an independent thought, even if the whole world is against you.