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abulbanaat:
Now take this Noetic. It may your last chance for salvation. O Allaah open Noetic's heart, let her see the truth:

"Say (O Muhammad ): 'Do you verily disbelieve in Him[b] Who created the earth in two Days [/b]and you set up rivals (in worship) with Him? That is the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists)." [Q41: 9].

Noetic, the ball is now in your court. may Allaah guide you.

1. did allah create the earth in 2 days?

read surat Fussilat: 9-12 . . . . .it says allah created the earth in 8 days
also read: Surah 7, verse 54. . , .it says allah created the earth in 6 days

why is allah so confused? . . .if allah created the earth, why cant he just state consistently how many days it took him to do it?

2. I am a HE and not a SHE.
I dont want allah to ever touch me. . . . .if it is allah that opened olabs, abuzola, mukina, jarus, muhsin et all's heart, then tell allah not to come near me. . .else?

uplawal:
@MANTRIM, am sorry i cant type much,its just the reasons i gave before, cos i really made research well about both xtianity and ISLAM and the latter is infact 100% complete,judas death is unexplainable, how can they go and rub the dead body of jesus with balm,when its never the tradition of the jew to do so,its a living you try to help not the dead,jesus birth in two places mattew and luke in different account,paul is an enemy of christ,he changed jesus teachings and put grace,why did paul perform ofering when the says the LAWS are no longer required?even Jesus never came to abolish he laws of GOD but fulfilled them,and GOD made me know that jesus dnt die,he saved him from the shamefull death,i came to realise theres nothing like original sin by ADAM cos they were forgiven by GOD so JESUS initials plan was not to come and die for the sins of mankind.its so much that i cant begin writing now cos am so tired

why dont u just tell him the truth. , . .u left xtianity because of ur muslim boyfriend. . .simple

abulbanaat:
Noetic, if you know what will that do for you? Will you beleive He is your Creator so that you will worship Him as Islam prescribed?

the creator is the One who created the earth. . . .did allah create the earth?

[quote author=TOPE2000! link=topic=334241.msg4688812#msg4688812 date=1254955360]your hypothetical scenario has got nothing to do with the post right now cuz your scenario is the complete opposite of wat the thread is abt [/quote]do u normally think upside down?

posakosa:


How are you ? long time!

I am cool. . . .whats up with u? how is the states doing to u?

Abuzola:
It is Quran mr man, i only wrote a footnote, don't u know what a footnote is. Spare me and your jangulation

what am I jangulating?

uplawal:
@noetic,keep fooling yourself,the better u accept ISLAM for your salvation

where in the koran did allah offer salvation to his slaves?

posakosa:
Yea they don't. It was a very innocent/work-related convo. Thats why she's shocked at the "ignoring."

He willingly and voluntarily gave up his cell, work phone/address, now if she showed up at his work/or called him at work, NOW THATS CRAZY, LOL.

The dude is busy, . .he will get in touch in due course.

Abuzola:
Jesus ? Simple as Abc


Quran 5:72 ',,, the messiah, jesus son of mary said,'O Children of Israel ! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'



Quran 3:50 'and i (jesus) have come confirming that which was revealed before me of the torah (see mathew 5:17-18), and to make lawful to you part of what was forbidden to you ([b]see mathew 5:21-48)[/b], and i have come to you with a proof from your Lord, so fear Allah and obey me'


Quran 19:30-35

'He (jesus) said,'verily i am a slave of Allah, He has given me the scripture and made me a prophet.

And He has made me Blessed wheresoever i be, and He enjoined on me salat (prayer) and zakat as long as i live.

And dutiful to my mother and made me not arrogant, unblest.

And peace be the day i was born and the day i die and the day i shall be raised alive'

such is jesus son of mary, a statement of truth about which they used to doubt.

It befits not the majesty of Allah that He should beget a son. Glorified is He above all that they associate with Him. When He decrees a thing, He says to it 'Be' and it is''

are u so dumb? must u use the corrupt bible to support ur claims?

abulbanaat:
"O man! What has made you careless concerning your Lord, the Most Generous?

Who created you, fashioned you perfectly, and gave you due proportion;

In whatever form He willed, He put you together." [Q82: 6-8]

Noetic still for you.

allah could not have created me since he did not create the earth . . , . how long did it take for allah to create the earth?

where are the muslims? . . .come and educate our ignorance?

abulbanaat:
You again! calm down lest you suffer the like of what the wife of Abu Jahl suffered;

"And his wife too, who carries wood (thorns of Sadan which she used to put on the way of the Prophet () , or use to slander him).
In her neck is a twisted rope of Masad (palm fibre)." [Q111: 2-3] [That is, she preshied alonside her husband]

is it fair that I suffer for expressing my opinion? did I tell LIES on mohammed?
dont u think that allah would be ridiculously unfair to punish me (if he can) for simply expressing my opinion on mohammed?. . . .or what do u think?

abulbanaat:
What a creature of Allaah!

"And indeed We have put forth every kind of example in this Qur'ân, for mankind. But, man is ever more quarrelsome than anything." [Q18: 54]

religion aside. . .I know that I am a far better person than ALL of allah's slaves

FYI: allah did not create me.

@ OP

I know mohammed. . . .hez an unintelligent fraud, war monger and paedophile who unintelligently attempted to rebrand the arabian moon-god called allah.
I know mohammed. . . . .hez a debauched guy.

abuzola, are u mad? why are u spamming?

michelin89:
So she is what?

shez just an unfortunate and unintelligent fellow

mazaje:
You have come again. . . . . . Actually the rabbi's know more about their torah than you no?. . . .your rejoinder makes me laugh in hebrew. . . .


NO such thing exist in that verse. . . .

The seventh chapter of the Book of Isaiah begins by describing the military crisis that was confronting King Ahaz of the Kingdom of Judah.  In about the year 732 B.C.E. the House of David was facing imminent destruction at the hands of two warring kingdoms: the northern Kingdom of Israel and the Kingdom of Syria.  These two armies had laid siege to Jerusalem.  The Bible relates that the House of David and King Ahaz were gripped with fear.  Chapter seven relates how God sent the prophet Isaiah to reassure King Ahaz that divine protection was at hand. The Almighty would protect him, their deliverance was assured, and these two hostile armies would fail in their attempt to subjugate Jerusalem.  In Isaiah 7 we read,

, : "Let us go up against Judah and provoke it, and annex it to us; and let us crown a king in its midst, one who is good for us."  So said the Lord God, "Neither shall it succeed, nor shall it come to pass . . . ." ' "  The Lord continued to speak to Ahaz, saying, "Ask for yourself a sign from the Lord, your God; ask it either in the depths, or in the heights above."  Ahaz said, "I will not ask, and I will not test the Lord."  Then he said, "Listen now, O House of David, is it little for you to weary men, that you weary my God as well?  Therefore the Lord, of His own, shall give you a sign: Behold the young woman is with child, and she shall bear a son, and she shall call his name Immanuel.  Cream and honey he shall eat when he knows to reject bad and choose good; for, when the lad does not yet know to reject bad and choose good, the land whose two kings you dread, shall be abandoned."

It is clear from this chapter that Isaiah's declaration was a prophecy of the unsuccessful siege of Jerusalem by the two armies of the Kingdoms of Israel and Syria, not a virgin birth more than 700 years later.  If we interpret this chapter as referring to Jesus' birth, what possible comfort and assurance would Ahaz, who was surrounded by to overwhelming military enemies, have found in the birth of a child seven centuries later?  Both he and his people would have been long dead and buried.  Such a sign would make no sense.

False. . . . .We see, in II Kings 15-16, that this prophecy was fulfilled when these two kings were suddenly assassinated.  With an understanding of the context of Isaiah 7:14 alone, it is evident that the child born in Isaiah 7:14 is not referring to Jesus or to any future virgin birth.  Rather, it is referring to the divine protection that Ahaz and his people would enjoy from their impending destruction at the hands of these two enemies, the northern Kingdom of Israel and Syria.


This ıs false jesus was called the son of man or son of god not immanuel. . . . can you show me any passage in the NT where jesus was addressed as immanuel?



You only ended up embarassing yourself by spewing more lies. . . .

it is amazing that mazaje will spun more lies and even attempt to use the "mythical" bible and torah to prove his lies , . . , can u in one sentence just state why Isaiah 7:14 was not refering to JEsus?

and if I may ask. . .what is the basis of this principle?

These are some of the LIES people are easily brainwashed with. . .africa is a terrible place.
You dont have to give up something good to get something better. . . . .

muhsin:
AlhamduliLlah.

Are u celebrating the RACISM of allah?

what happened to him? was he caught doing it?

last time I checked polygamy is not a crime and the bible does not condemn it either. . . . .

kaytues:
I cant believe that Nigeria is nw 49yrs old n still there no changes made yet.Imagine a 49yrs old man with no positive changes in his life,isn't means a fool? Like a says, A fool at 40, is a fool forever.

My fellow Nairalander, what are you going to say to Nigeria been exactly 49 yrs old in Oct. 1st, 2009 with no positive changes or achievements since Nigeria were colonilized by British? Are we not going to say Nigeria is a fool or what?

Na play i dey play o

u need to define what u mean by a FOOL.

IMO Nigeria is not a fool, either as a nation or as a people. . . . .Nigeria has only made foolish choices in the past and present.

toba1909:
Alaafin of Oyo is the head of all Yoruba kings.
Being the first child of Oduduwa and also the only,
king that can appoint an Aare Onakakanfo of Yoruba land.

as a matter of fact both of them are a nuisance. of what benefit is their "royalty" to their subjects. these are people who give out titles on a pay as u go basis to treasury looter.
These are people without an ideological basis, who command an influence in the unfortunate country.
If the truth must be said, both of them and their fellow traditional kings must either be abdicated or given the Rawlings treatment before Nigeria can move forward.

mazaje:
It does not even matter to me if jesus fulfılled any prophecies in the OT cos as far as I know the OT is also another book of myths just like the NT. . . .Jews not me have explained why Jesus did not fullfill most of what your fellow christians have said he fulfilled. . . jewish scholars and rabbıs said ıt not me unless ifd you are telling me that christians know the hebrew bible better than the jews themselves. . . . .

OK pls just point out just one of the lies and show me. . .blanket accusations will not do. . . .

1. since u believe that the bible is a myth. . .must u also endorse the uninformed analysis of some quack rabbis to support ur false assertions?

2. ur first post is a big LIE . . . . .have u read Isaiah 7:14. . . .if u have then u would know that apart from the word "virgin", there are other words in that verse that establish that the said verse is talking about Jesus, . . . .the words include

a. Lord . . . . implying that God shall give a son

b. Son . . . the child is a male

c. conceive . . . . , which indicates His divine conception

d. Immanuel . . . . . . Jesus is called and known as Immanuel.

how many times do u want me to illustrate ur LIES?

Abuzola:
@noetic, are u denying jesus being son of god ? And what about the wife ? Thinkz mr manz

what does it mean to be Son of God?

mazaje:
Are you lying for jesus again neotic? how do you know that the OP will educate my ignorance without reading it

lie for Jesus? why would I? . . . . . . . . u dont need rocket science to know that Jesus fulfilled several prophecies in the bible?

Can you show me the lies I googled up. . . .pls show me what the lies are. . . . .it shouldn't be a difficult thing for you to do. . . . .

eveything u googled up is a LIE. . . , . it is based on ur preconceived notion that the prophecies are not true, as such u are LYING

muhsin:
What side did I take? Haba.

I initiated the thread; you guys came posing meaningless questions to me, thereupon "I" appeared and debunked your words. . .why wouldn't I joined? And I whole-heartedly agree now with his input that your assertion is nothing but crap.

BTW, I can't figure-out why you easily get sore at me. You never address me peacefully and in whatever discussion.

Well, I can smell why that is so.

its not this thread alone. . . . .go figure

FYI: I would like to to address u peacefully, but u dont give room for such. . .or do u?

mazaje:
Actually what I copied and pasted is not up to half of the OP. . . .If you read the OP I see no reason why you can not go through my post. . . . .Its a clear jewish refutation of all the allege prophecies that were fullfilled by jesus in the gospels. . . . the unknown gospel writers mostly misıntepreted the jewish scriptures and created convinient prophecies and said that jesus fullfilled them. . . . . some of the alleged prophecies were delibrate mistranslation or outright false hoods. . .read what the rabbis have to say. . . . . . don't be lazy. . . . .

1. I actually did not read the OP . . . . .I was only sure it would educate ur ignorance

2. I knew u dont write very long stories. . . .that was why I was surprised. So can u tell me in ur own words, what ur refutation is? why google up lies?

abulbanaat:
May Allaah open the heart of this Noetic so that she will no become a nonentity in the Hereafter.

if opening people's heart means having the heart like that of olabs, abuzola, jarus and mukina . . . . . . .then I dont want allah to open my heart

Nezan:
you claim the uncorrupted bible is the gospel of barnnabbas, but mohammed didnot plagiarize this book when he was writing the koran, he plagiarised our corrupted bible,

thats because mohammed is not a smart guy

mazaje. . .did u write all that long story for me? when did u become olabowale?

whats the summary of that very very long story?

muhsin:
What a sheer nonsense!

EXACTLY my thoughts . . . . .it is an unintelligent and pathetic contradiction from allah

Abuzola:
Sharap, and how can mary be god's wife. Dunce

does this FOOL not understand that mary is not a "wife" to God?