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muhsin:
Where is Noetic?

I see you are still advertising your ignorance regarding what Allah, the Exalted, say about Blacks.

here I am . . . .have u educated my ignorance?

michelin89:
I moderate Culture and you are a Religion addict.

sounds like u find my suggestion impossible to accept. . . . . .it is understandable.

Ohsisi:
Bless you
The highlighted part is the origin of the koran today.
Muslims lie that the Koran has remained unchanged since allah revealed it to Mohammed but we know there were different Korans circulating all over the place untill the Uthman came up with his revised standard Koran of his liking and burnt up all the others.
There are many stories to also say how he killed off people who opposed his Koran.
He himself was killed by Muslims
go figure
Muslims don't want anyone to know that truth
But too late
History and the internet are not on their side.

when where u banned?

Pastor AIO:
Even Uthman's Koran did not survive, apparently. That too got burnt by someone else, so it isn't the origin of the Koran today.

is it not ironical, that allah could not preserve his own koran from plagiarism?

olabowale:
How do you arrive at this, especially when Islam allows me to marry an Igbo woman, a thing I would never have done if it was not for Islam? Yet my blood sister married an Igbo man based on Islam, too! Are your for real Mr. Noetic15, your itd your youth that will not you settle down?

This is your friend, "Olabs!!" Lol. Oh boy or girl!

blah blah blah. , . .but yorubas and igbo are of the BLACK RACE. ,  . .but allah hates all blacks. . .why?  

olabowale:
@Ohsisi: « #332 on: October 04, 2009, 03:20 AM » If Christianity does not permit brother to sister sexual relationship (and we in america and Christian Europe, even fathers sleeping with their own daughters, and mothers sleeping with their own sons), how do you expect a Yoruba woman who is also a Muslim have relationship with her own "BROTHER?" I remember when you and her were at it that she said she is a VIRGIN, how can she then basing my argument at the lesser quality of the two, her being yoruba to make her choose for husband her own brother, where as Quran openly forbids such a possible incest?

Are you alright woman, with the "Oh" thing in your name?

I hope u know allah is a damn racist

Abuzola:
Omo obo ? This thief of fish need some home training, she lacks good moral

olabowale:
@Noetic15: « #34 on: Today at 01:59:47 PM » Slave of Allah will help you undersatand the Bible, ignorantly delutional or not!

how can a slave of allah, who has no knowledge of the historical analogy of allah teach an xtian what the bible entails?. . . . . . . does it make any sense?. . . .how many muslims know the history of allah? how many muslims know that allah i a moon-god?

Listen to this stubborn pseudo-englishman! You as christian should make up your mind, concerning the OT which you now relegated to a single line; thou shall love your God with all your heart, and your neighbors like yourself, is a complete iconoclastic overview/position aganst the OT itself, even though we read earlier that Jesus said that the OT laws and its prophets must not be obliterated and even a jot, as the smallest of the laws must remain active, warning whoever acts against this or encourages any to act against this, that person will shall be the least in heaven's kingdom! Your turning from Genesis to even Songs of Solomon, etc before the Gospel, to a mere one liner, is either you are saying the OT is not worth more than that one line, being acorrupt book, since a lot of wars were fought in it and its not all love and more love, but real human life and existence, or that the NT itself is corrupt for turning such a book to a single liner? This is why Quran is the moderate book, discarding all the fallacies while keeping the prestine truth of the books of the Children of Israel, in the Quran.

Noetic, disprove the argument we the Muslims are making agaisnt the authenticity of the Taurah, Sabur and Injil, with good reason. To say because we say the bible is corrupt, you therefore assume that everything is incorrect, is silly. Consider that when you chatted with me, you behaved like a pure gentleman, now to me, in your anger at me, you behave like a corrupt hardened man. You see how impure you arenow that you are corrupt, yet you are still a man, male, yoruba, human, nigerian, still noetic in England.

Now thats how you should look at the Bible; viewed through the Muslim's prizm! This does not even approach Muslims, less Islam as any thing fraudulent!

1. you are the one that needs to make up ur mind. is the bible corrupt or not? if yes. . . where is the original version? and why are u trying to find mohammed's name in a corrupt book?
if no. . . . is it not obvious that muslims and xtians serve different persons?

2. there is NOTHING for me to prove or disprove. allah claims that the bible is corrupt. . . . . what EXACTLY is stopping allah from producing the original version?. . .I want to see it

periodic:
Hi forumites,
Any youth that forgets his creator is going to end up in hell. Youths are the future generation. They the ones that will carry the gospel to places. If these youths fail in their resposibilities then who will carry the gospel to the world.

where EXACTLY is this stated in the bible?. . .this is how alien doctrines are imported into the gospel

start from here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design

and then form an opinion. . .when u have an opinion on intelligent design, then lets hear u.

Abuzola:
Whats your point. Yeah Allah is the God of the universe

so where is the original torah allah gave the jews? where is ur proof that allah made the universe? in how many days did allah make the universe?

Abuzola:
OT was for the jewish so young man stop confussing urself,

but i tot allah is their God too. . . .or am I wrong?

michelin89:
It's a pity you don't find us efficient. We'll try to improve. Any suggestions?

In all sincerity, I did not know that u are a mod. And as a matter of fact u are an exception, cos I have never come across your actions/inactions as a mod.

The mods in question know themselves.
My only suggestion to any mod would be . . . . . . Develop a thick skin for criticism.

Abuzola:
God does not write mr man, it was revealed to jesus and compiled by barnabas

allah is a fraud. how could allah's original bible be written at the time of Jesus? what happened to all the OT traditions?

lawyer:
The Question shouldn't be what makes a good moderator, rather it should be what makes a good Forum Member!

Members are quick to blame moderators for everything wrong that happens to them even if their Wives or Girlfriends are not pregnant. The complain of incesant banning or deleting of posts continuously, but this begs the question:Why should a poster be banned?

You only get banned because you flout the rules and laws of the Forum and there is no exception. Even if a moderator breaks the rules or goes afoul of the laws of the site Administrator Seun, Moderators will be sanctioned too. So there is 'no conspiracy theory' or 'this moderator hates this and that person' or 'one moderator has been targetting one member' blah blah. Its just simple. Keep your arguments and discussions civil and once in a while if emotions flare up, try to water it down and let it not become a habit.

A lot of people on Nairaland confuse a disagreement with an Argument and lace it with torrential verbal abuses hereby confusing it with freedom of speech and right to freedom of association. When it gets to a stage that a moderator has to intervene and realise that that member ought to be removed for the greater good of the Forum, it will be a worthy sacrifice any day any time to restore sanity because lawlessness with restraint, is an invitation to chaos.

Moderators are also human beings and we do have our own flaws and managing over 300,000 members is not an easy thing especially when every second 24 hours of the day, someone somewhere is posting either something intelligent, mind stimulating, debative and educative and another lunatic on the other side of the planet is posting a catalogue and brochure of drivel, dross, bloviates and caterwauls to upset people and destroy the forum.

And its our jobs to always sieve the wheat from the chaff and keep everything sane and when we identify an erring member who has broken the rules and the appropriate sanction has been metted out, some loyal fan members of that person banned, will start an online rebellion blaming the moderators for being too biased or sentimental or judgemental without actually looking at the reason why that person was banned or his posts were deleted. Moderators are not daft and we dont act in vacuum to just pick out a person to ridicule or met sanctions against.

Follow the rules and we will all live happily ever after!

in what capacity do u speak? are u a mod or member?

michelin89:
Noetic, surprised to see you here. You don finish debating with my fellow atheists?

@ your comment

It does and it is.

lolz. . . . .I do enjoy debating with atheists cos unlike "others". . . . .they {atheists} can defend and analyse their beliefs. No matter how positive a belief is, once it cannot be analysed or criticised then its ignorance IMO . . . . . . .NL atheists are an intelligent bunch. . .good to know u are one of them.

@ Post

The mods I know on this forum are anything but efficient . . . . . words cannot describe my disgust.

Abuzola:
'Epistle of barnabas' is the real bible. A bible is a scripture of God

did allah write it? when? who did he reveal it too?

Abuzola:
So u haven't die ? You re a disgrace to your bishop, and don't come asking me absurdity, did your bishop told you that Allah wrote the Quran ? Wake up mr man

do u self-service on mondays?

Abuzola:
The modern bible was bastardize and plagarized, we believe in the original bible

a. define the "BIBLE"

b. where is the ancient/original bible? where did allah keep it?

what EXACTLY has he said that I should refute? . . , . .the IGNORAMUS has no idea as to the origin of allah?

Abuzola:
Go to Google and search

'Gospel of Barnabas'

now die of shock

when did allah write this book? did allah tell u that this is his bible?

Abuzola:
From Anas bin malik, who said,'There was a man from Bani Al naggar who read the surah 'THE HEIFER' and 'AL IMRAN', and he used to inscribe for the messenger of God (P.B.U.H) . Then he ran away and joined the people of earlier scripture, so they admired him and raised him in rank and said,'This man used to inscribe for Muhammad'. Then God Almighty destroyed him while he was with them. So they dug his grave and buried him, but the next morning they saw that the earth had cast his body out. They said,'This is the doing of Muhammad and his companions'. so they dug the grave even deeper and buried him again but the next morning they saw that the earth had cast his body out. They dug the grave again more deeply and buried him again but in the morning they saw that the earth had cast his body out. So they left him as he was'


muslim, hadith number 1945

what a story

until the pioneer process involved in evolution is defined. . .it remains a LIE.

Abuzola:
Hahahaha i can see noetic is short of words. Allahu akbar the truth is good all the time

where u expecting me to give credence to his baseless assertions?

Abuzola:
Pls take a flight to vatican and stop disturbing me if you can't locate it via google or any search engine

I would have died of shock. . . if u had produced the missing bible or web link

olabowale:
Allah is your Lord thats why.

Muhammad (AS) is His Messenger.

By the way, you live in the prophetic period of Muhammad (AS) and not any earlier messenger (AS)!

These are good reason for rational and sane people to belief in Allah and His Messenger (AS)!

1. how is allah my lord? was he the same lord of the OT? why did he stop using annointing oil and priestly sacrifices?

2. why is mohammed's message different from that of the other prophets? why was the coming of mohammed not prophesied?

Abuzola:
What exactly is your point, its not part of the bible or not ?

what do u understand by the word "BIBLE" ?

did I also insult u? are u not an e-terrorist?

michelin89:
@ topic

Una too dey complain. Make Seun make una moderators now, you'll start complaining about the members.

moderating a forum does not require super intelligence neither is it rocket science

. . . Nezan exposes abuzola's ignorance

FYI: I would also love a copy of the original bible or the website link

uplawal:
dnt worry you will soon turn to noetic40,get ready

i hope u know u will soon be on the receiving end of islamic justice, when ur bf start showing his true colours

Abuzola:
@noetic-

Didn't he warn you not to call him olabs ? Take time

thou pathetic e-terrorist . . , . I insist on calling him olabs. . . so what are u going to do?

shakerz:
okay here is simple evidence, i will post to you the list of gospels that werent selected, not known by the church, or were considered heritical. These versions were once believed to be the bible by many people for hundreds of years, but the church came and decided 4 and now u are a blind

    * Gnostic: The Gospel of Thomas
    * Gnostic: The Secret Book of James
    * Gnostic: Basilides
    * Gnostic: Naassene Fragment
    * Gnostic: Gospel of Mary
    * Gnostic: Dialogue of the Savior
    * Gnostic: Gospel of the Savior
    * Gnostic: Marcion
    * Gnostic: Epiphanes
    * Gnostic: Ophite Diagrams
    * Gnostic: Ptolemy
    * Gnostic: Gospel of Truth
    * Gnostic: Excerpts of Theodotus
    * Gnostic: Heracleon
    * Gnostic: Acts of Peter
    * Gnostic: Acts of Thomas
# The Book of Thomas the Contender
# The Concept of Our Great Power
# The Dialogue of the Savior
# The Discourse on the Eighth and Ninth
# The Hypostasis of the Archons
# Hypsiphrone
# The Interpretation of Knowledge
# The Letter of Peter to Philip
# Marsanes
# Melchizedek
# On the Anointing
# On the Baptism A
# On the Baptism B
# On the Eucharist A
# On the Eucharist B
# On the Origin of the World*
# The Paraphrase of Shem
# Plato, Republic 588A-589B
# The Prayer of the Apostle Paul
# The Prayer of Thanksgiving
# The Second Treatise of the Great Seth
# The Sentences of Sextus
# The Sophia of Jesus Christ
# The Teachings of Silvanus
# The Testimony of Truth
# The Thought of Norea
# The Three Steles of Seth
# The Thunder, Perfect Mind
# The Treatise on the Resurrection
# Trimorphic Protennoia
# The Tripartite Tractate
# A Valentinian Exposition
# Zostrianos







I BET YOU NEVER HEARD OF THESE HAVE YOU? SEE MEN, THE MEN OF THE CHURCH ABRIRTELY CHOSE THE FOUR GOSPELS THAT FIT WITH THEIR TRINTARIAN VIEWS WHICH WERE A COPY FROM MITHRA!!

NOW GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY 

1. can this IGNORAMUS start by defining what a bible is? I really want to know your understanding of the word "bible" and its inherent origin.

2. are the above book's part of allah's original copy? where is allah's original version?

3. Each of the books listed above, do u know their origin, purpose and intent of writting?

4. the 66 books in the bible, what is their origin and what was the purpose of writing them?

Abuzola:
I like that, noetic where are u and your black face ?

alimat 2:
He is asking google

In the congregation of the ignorant. .  .delusion is rampant 

shakerz:
The word ALLAH precedes the Arabs and the coptic Chrsitians before even Mohammed and the Arabs of Qureish were using it. Just visit egypt and syria and yemen, the generational arab who are still christian claim that word is there,  its true that the Arabs started to associate the names of gods like hubal and manat and so on with smaller dieties after they became polythestic(remember they are the children of ISHMAEL) but for Allah they never made idols except for his -daughers,

the point is that ALLAH goes back to the tongue of Jesus, and the prove i posted in the damn dictionary,

What does Allah mean? WTF, watch the damn 2 minutes clips, shesesh

Eloah comes from Elohim(the im is royal plural) Allah is the Arabic prouncation of Eloah which means the God. Eloah and Allah are the same word, same letters ( A L H ARE THE TRIANGULAR ROOTS) but pronounced slightly different.

READ THIS SHIT ON YOUR OWN BY THE WAY

HERE ARE OTHER WORDS FOR GOD

SYRIAC GOD IS ALAHA IN GREEK IT IS TRANSLATED AS ELO-I AND so on


The problem is that you forgot that Jesus was middle eastern and that the language he spoke was close to arabic, you think christianity came from europe, gawd your soooo dumb, AM NOT EVEN MUSLIM YET I KNOW THIS, GO TO WIKIPEDIA OR ENCLOYPEDIA, its common knowledge for people who are not brainwashed christians

can this deluded IGNORAMUS trace the historical origin of the demonic-islamic moon-god called allah?

shakerz:
okay for anyone who is viewing this thread, this is why this christian neolotic was scared to post the reply.

When you type in God in the standard Aramaic lexicon here is the answer

"Meaning:God
Pronunciation: (Eastern) AaLaH


Look like Jesus was worshipping Allah and called his lord as such , he didnt use the word Lord or God, not Eloah(even though this is the hebrew pronounciation of Allah) or Jevoah or anything else but Allah, see the thing is that aramaic is the foundation of syriac and arabic, , OR YOU still going to claim the jesus worshipped a Moon God called Allah?


I think the damage is done, IM OUTTIE 

1. mohammed's father was also worshipping an allah. . .hence his name was abd-allah (which means slave of allah). since he was dead before mohammed was born, who was the allah he was worshipping?

2. if Jesus worshipped allah. . . . . .why did allah stop using anointing oil and using priests like was done in the OT?. . .who EXACTLY is allah?