mudleyback:


nigeria lost for refusing to elect an islamic fundamentalist coupist?

could buhari have won? . . . maybe not. but why not let people's votes count?
in the uk, no one riggs out the BNP regardless of their extremism, they are allowed to contest and the people's will prevails.
why give room to anger and extremism by rigging elections?. . , . .gej is an annoying fraud.

donor:

all bb supporters should come out boldly now and defend there vote. pls and pls dont deny him!

1. jonathan had 98.04% votes in rivers, 98.59% in delta, 98.96% in abia, 99.63% in bayelsa, 95.57% in ebonyi, 97.98% in imo, 94.58% in akwa ibom, 98.54% in enugu and 98.96% in anambra. if u believe this elections was free and fair and devoid of electoral manipulation . . . .then u must also believe that i have 100 trillion pounds in my bank account.

2. Buhari did not lose. the biggest loser in this elections is the general populace, the people of Nigeria. the nation lost a golden opportunity to right her wrongs and have a fresh beginning. four years from now, I would be laughing at nigerians malady.

madam, for the sake of the lazy ones like my humble self . . . , pls summarize his point.

bakare has always been an attention seeker with very lousy prophecies. he yabbed adeboye at will, yet when it was time for elections he called the same adeboye for prayers. this does not mean either of them are real prophets. just shows the hypocrisy of bakare.

please post the details of the story. . . .it will make good reading.

KunleOshob:

I still dey laugh!

I am with u in laughter . . . . I laugh in japanese

@op

now u have just made my day and put me in a cheerful mood.

this thread is a joke . . . .was romans 12:2 referring to different types of God's will?

and where are the indians to answer huxley?

really?

Highbros:

I saw a goat deliverying. By it look i can tell she is in great pains - tears in her eyes!. But why? i asked myself. I understood from the bible that humans (women) deliver in pains due to the course God placed on them (adam and eve) cos of disobedience (they ate the forbidden fruit). But what i dont understand is, why does this course xtends to animals? They did not eat the "apple" and they are still unclothed or are we the same with them like science said? I need to know because i dont know what to believe anymore.

God gave man dominion over all . . .so when God cursed man, the curse applies on all that man owns and that includes ur friend the she-goat. The land is cursed because of the sin of man. . thats why it is written in the book of rev that "Behold I see a new heaven and a new earth"

nuella2:

You dont cease to amaze me. The poster picked out specific issues that she felt was not scriptural that needed to be discussed, maybe the topic was not appropriate. And you say they are not doctrinal issues, what is doctrine to you?

really? are you this dumb? did u read the OP? why have u refused to address the issues I raised? . . . , are u confused?

All the nonsense you posted above do not make pastor chris a false prophet. Just because you have endorsed poverty, sickness and pain for yourself do not mean the bible said so concerning the christian.

So according to oyaks, the best way to tap into this divine healing and wealth from God is to sow into his ministry by getting money from any means to fund his falsehood. FYI . . . . . I have not adopted poverty, sickness or pain. . . .cos I have just the opposite and understand that they come from the father FREELY.

You dont know anything about the gospel of christ, you are an embarrassment to christ. And i boldly say, you are the FALSE prophet. It is only the son of the devil that will be spreading this evil you call gospel. What is good in this your gospel.

a. what is the gospel of Christ?
b. why am I an embarrassment to Christ?
c. why am I a false prophet? did i stage manage a miracle? have I made a false prophecy? did I charge gate fees for anyone to come to church? do I sell the gospel? am I preaching a strange gospel?
d. what is the evil in exposing the fallacy of oyaks?

Can you prove that pastor chris stages miracles?

No I cant. but I rely on the millions of testimonies all over the web that suggest such.

The bible already told us, how to know false prophets it not that nonsense you wrote in a confused state. Christ is goodnews, anybody that preach opposite of what he brought to us, is the false prophet.

so gullible. . . .please read mathew 24. it tells of FALSE prophets who come to DECEIVE in the name of Christ. oyaks is one of them.

Pweety4me:

I knew u were gonna say that, either way u mentioned me in your post & u are addressing my post so u are addressing me.

Plonker

ahhh . . . . . it never reach fight now? please keep the insult under wraps

Pweety4me:

I don't know who u think was gonna read that, but hey goodluck!

& from little i grasped u seem to want 2 nail me over my enquiries, well sha still failing 2 give any valuable answers to my questions.

I think next time i'll go ask those that actually know about it, and not side talkers & rampant bashers who boost their self-esteem by drawing incoherent accusations.

incase u did not notice . . .my last post was not addressed to u

nuella2:

You are a big hypocrite, now you are advicing someone to pray, if it was christ embassy you will be the first to call us fake. Did you pray and God told you we are fake? God and all his angels are watching, even demons are watching. If it was christ embassy this thread would have reached five pages, now it is a carnal matter, christ embassy would have been a spiritual matter. Hadred and envy is terrible.

1. the issue raised in the OP were NOT doctrinal or related to biblical teachings. the OP was asking if white-garment churches are from God. This IMO shows a lack of basic understanding of the doctrinal tenets of white-garment churches on the part of the OP.

2. however had  the OP picked holes in the doctrinal teachings of white garment churches. . . . I would have been glad to discuss/debate these holes with her based on my understanding.

3. in case u did not notice the context of the OP. it was a generalized assumption about the genuiety of white garment churches. The only plausible response in this case is to hear directly from God. I cant think of any better answer . . . can u help me?

4. however the case against CE and chris oyaks is DOCTRINAL and centres on beliefs system. is is not in any way a generalization.
oyaks claims that himself and his members are now the word of God (implying that one does not need JC anymore), that he will never be broke again, that sickness is impossible to believers and many more . . . . .all of his sayings and teachings are fundamentally FLAWED because they contradict the true gospel and teachings of JC. oyaks is as such a FALSE prophet.

5. I will say this here on this forum, if only so that u might be personally encouraged to seek the TRUTH from God yourself. I was told that OYAKS and certain others (who I will not name at this moment) . . . .are false prophets and SONS of SATAN. You dont have to believe me . . . . , fast, pray and seek the face of God.

6. my position on oyaks is based on his doctrinal falsehood and inherent deception characterized by stage managed miracles, prosperity doctrine and many other false teachings. I dare you to doctrinally debate oyaks false teachings with me. If for any reason you classify my posts on oyaks as falsehood, let us both search deep within the scriptures and find out where God . . . .
a. made us His word, such that we do not need Jesus Christ anymore
b. promised us earthly rewards as part of the new covenat.

7. is oyaks really of God? is oyaks preaching the same gospel that Paul died for? the one stephen was stoned for? the one peter died for? or the one the early church was persecuted for? I put it to u BOLDLY that the gospel oyaks teaches CANNOT be reconciled to the gospel that the early christians lost their lives for.

8. he who has ears . .  . . let him hear.

mabell:

chai!! you really go skool, u too much
I believe in God, I believe in my pastor in my local assembly and i believe in Pastor Chris in as much as i don't worship them
I no put water for mouth talk am

do u know what worship means? . . . .it is not until u bow ur head to the ground that u worship. . . .the way u potray oyaks as infallible speaks of worship.
and FYI: I am more enlightened that u and oyaks combined. . .i go skool

He that receiveth a prophet in the name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteous man's reward.
Mt 10:41

so is oyaks God's prophet or baal's prophet? discuss . . , .

fyneguy:

SMH

another rehab-bound fellow

is that where chris oyaks is?

every time something happens, we see posts that say oyaks or tb joshua predicted it before hand . . . . . .
so which of them predicted it this time? and how?

mabell:

This is not the best place to get that information cos a lot of OP will be said
Let it be between you and your pastor, ie if you have one and believe in him
Or better still between you and God

just like u believe in oyaks?

newmi:

lolll imagine how narrow your brain is and twisted your mind is in properly articulating biblical thoughts lolll
yes how could they be saved, its only a dumb fellow oblivious of biblical truths and the significance of the strategic but very symbolic transition between the old order and the new order brought into effect by the shameful death, burial and glorious resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, that would expect them to be saved.
The preaching of Jesus was an announcement and an invitation for the Jews to accepting God's provisional measure for a final sacrificial lamb for their redemption in place to the imperfect permissive willed sacrifices of bull and goats for their atonement. Wait a minute Jesus came as the messiah of the Jews not of the whole world "---Baruk kabar shem adonai---Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord", "----and he shall save his people from their sins---" but when the Jews rejected him the opportunity fell on the gentiles "---He came to his own but his own received him not but as many that received to them he gave power to become the sons of God---"

ok tell me the difference between both!

what is the point u are trying to make?

newmi:

@nuclearboy, noetic16 where are all this dumb fellas coming from how can a whole you my nuclearbonboi be supporting the aguement that soul winning is not needed or required
so what is the essence of our preaching and evangelism or how else can you explain "go ye to all the world and preach the gospel to all nation"

bonboi l remember asking you if you read your bible with oil stained eyes and maybe you judge scripture with your brain wet because your spirit seem practically dead when it come to understanding.

sorry my boy as always be comforted am praying for you

another biblical ignoramus. there is a huge difference between soul winning and evangelism . . . .Jesus taught and evangelized to thousands at once, how many of them got saved?
evangelism is making people aware of God's plan of salvation . . .soul winning remains the exclusive preserve of God. I dont expect oyaks to teach u this , . .cos there is no reason to believe that oyaks himself is saved.

Pweety4me:

I don't mean or want to sound funny,ignorant or rude but there are quite a few things questionable about the way they do things, or let say things i don't quite understand about the way they do their things.

My first question, Why are there no white people who conduct white garment church?is 'white garment' really from God? or it was man-made by the nigerians?

I mean i don't know any other country besides nigerians that do white-garment.

Also all the things that they use during their services, such as, leaves, perfume e.t.c i mean they say they mean different things & are for santification or some sort of prayer. . .but are these things of the bible?

I mean as a christian, or a pastor of a church u do conduct things according to the words written in the bible?so shouldn't we see Gods teachings/ways being practised in the church?

Plse some1 should enlighten me here, i don't want any battles just some insight abeg.

does it need to be practiced by the westerners for it to gain validity? why dont u go on ur knees and personally ask God for a revelation about these churches instead of carnally raising innuendos?

mabell:

When you talk to somebody abou Jesus and he agrees and accept Him as his Lord and Saviour, that act is called 'soulwinning'. It's a mandate for every born again christian

Then He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to the whole creation
Mark 16:15 (HCSB)

Please read verse 16 of that same chapter . . .

Joagbaje:

What a man doesnt know , he  should rather ask questions politely than spuing ignorance . Soulwinning is conversion.

Proverbs 11:30
30 The fruit of the righteous is a tree of life; and he that winneth souls is wise.

1 Peter 3:1
1 Likewise, ye wives,[ be] in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives; 

You are simply a baby christian without the deep knowledge of the word, that explains why u usually quote scriptures either by isolating them or totally quoting them out of depth. For your information, this is the deep context of soul winning

1. John 6:44 . . . . .No man cometh to Christ except the father draws them near.
2. mathew 11:27 . . . 27 “All things have been committed to me by my Father. No one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and [size=14pt]those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.[/size]
3. Revelation 21:17 talks of the book of life, when was the contents of this book written?

These verses tell you that it is ONLY the father and His son that SAVES souls. . . .and not you. if it were not so, then all those who had heard the gospel should be saved by now. but salvation belongs ONLY to God's elect. You CANNOT save a soul.

nuclearboy:

@noetic:

Long time Where is Dafidi the Man of War?

Don't mind these ignorant people. Even their oga knows nothing of God's Word. He just copies anything Copeland and Hinn say and repackages for his ROR.

I have stopped being amused at their folly. how have u been bro?

oluwapo:

I THANK GOD FOR THE MAN OF GOD PASTOR CHRIS OYAHKHILOME FOR SAYING YES TO GOD'S PLAN, GOD'S PURPOSE OF REACHING THE WORLD THOUGH THE GOSPEL.

INDEED THE ATMOSPHERE OF MIRACLE ITS A SUCCESS AND I WOULD LIKE YOU TO SHARE YOUR TESTIMONY SO THAT OTHER PEOPLE'S FAITH WILL BE STARED AND THEN RECEIVE THEIR HEALING.

D[b]ON'T FORGET WHAT PASTOR SAID THAT IF YOU WANT THE ANOINTING THAT YOU'VE RECEIVED TO KEEP INCREASING THEN YOU MUST WIN SOUL AND SHARE YOUR TESTIMONY WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND BY THAT SOULS WITH BE WON TO THE KINGDOM AND THEN THE ANOINTING WILL CONTINUE TO WELL-UP IN YOU DAY BY DAY.[/b]


STAY BLESS AND UNTIL THEN KEEP LIVING IN THE ATMOSPHERE OF GOD'S LOVE, GRACE AND MIRACLE.

where in the bible is this stated? can anyone win a soul? do u know what soul winning is?

@ OP

you beat me to starting this thread . . . . .where is joagbaje, mabell, nuella et all? whats the explanation to this?

"wounded" pastor kunleOshob

tpiah*:

^i asked what's to be done when say, for example, someone struggled for a while, and in the face of difficulty, eventually made something of their lives. Only to encounter others who then begin to hate on him for no other reason than because he seems to be doing better than what they expected, or better than they themselves.

now, some people [not everybody] made conscious decisions to follow lifestyles which do not give them the kind of successful outcome they want for themselves.

how is the first guy to handle the bitterness and envy coming from the second.

true blessings comes in the midst of adversary . . . , thou preparest a table for me in the presence of my ENEMIES . . .psalm 23.
let them envy, let them gossip, just make sure ur way pleases the Lord. . .then leave the rest. Joseph was envied, so was David, Daniel and many more.

mabell:

Exactly, i am the word of God made flesh
If you see me, you have seen God

I said, Ye are gods, And all of you sons of the Most High
Psalms 82:6 (ASV)

Psalm 82:6 does NOT make u GOD, it refers to ur creation in the image and likeness of God. . . . . .it does NOT make u the word of God, neither does it give God inherent creative and dominative abilities.

stop twisting the scriptures to suit ur satanic ordained teachings. read John 1 to know who the WORD is.

Joagbaje:

If they had asked for it, they would have recieved . Is there evidence that they asked for forgives?

did u read my post in full at all?