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FamilyRe: What Should I Send To My Husband's Parents Back Home? by noetic2: 2:16pm On Sep 10, 2009
ask ur hubby
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by noetic2: 1:59pm On Sep 10, 2009
olabowale:
« #16 on: Today at 04:06:42 AM »  Awa ju wo lo Noetic. I just used "AWA" a yoruba word for "WE" for myself alone talking to you, noetic who am certain is younger than me. Okay, Davidylan and me are close, he is like a son to me, I sometimes kid around with him, while speaking the truth. Let me use him here; David, your www.com dad, Olabowale, is instruction you to call them (Olabowale), next week. Omo mi, we "Olabowale" love you for the pleasure of Allah, and when you become muslim, it will make us "Olabowale" very happy.
is this the best u can come up with? Allah called himself a WE. . . . .what a joke grin grin


That goes for you too, young girl (grown woman, chief Dr. Nwando), a sincere desire from us (Olabowale).

Period was used instead of days; Day is yaum. Check the Quran, even though am not a scholar, but you should educate yourself.
can u just tell me how many days allah made the earth? why is this question so hard for u to answer?
is it because u agree that allah is a fraudstar?

In Arabic, the word qasas, is story. There is a chapter so named in Quran. Its Surah Qasa. Read it. Google that word; Qasas or Chapter named story in the Quran? You may be surprised.
This is hillarious grin grin grin grin

Allah told mohammed the stories about alexandra the great, he also told mohammed that mary is aron's sister grin grin
why did allah not tell mohammed about cleopatra and Julio ceaser? Allah is such a jester grin grin

The Catholic prays to her. Thats to me as a human being its enough proof. However, Allah does not say that, except that He ask if Jesus told people to make him and his mother as co-Allah, since you, Noetic takes Jesus as God, and also follows what he says. The answer of Jesus is very clear and Allah exornarating him is also clear. What Allah has done, is the scenerio that will take place in the day of Judgement, allowing Jesus to clear his own name and exclude or exculpating himself from the lies in the presence of mankind, to show that Allah is his Lord, and his true position is a prophet and of course those who are wrong can get due Justice from the JUDGE; Allah.
Absolute rubbish.

allah says mary is the third part of trinity. . .even an atheist knows that this is false, . . . .another goof of allah. grin grin grin grin

You are my brother and I dont know you. You are brother because we are brother by gender, both men, and by tribal affiliations, both Yorubas, by nationality, both Nigerian, by skin classifications, both blacks, and by being from human race, both sons of our father Adam (AS). But the generation between us (you and I) and our father Adam, who was not man that sired you nor I, is quite longer and larger and bigger than whats between Haroun (AS) and Mariam, the mother of Jesus (AS). And when anyone calls you son of Adam, have you ever refused it and tell the person that he lied, or when a person says you are omo Oduduwa for because you are a Yoruba or when a yoruba person say to you "Omoya", knowing fully well that you do not have the  same mother, why accept it and you are calling what Allah says fraud when they are in the same line of thinking?
Absolutely irrelevant.

Allah says the Aaron is the sister of Mary. . . . .both of them lived at least 2000 years apart. . . . . .allah is a bad student of history. . . . another goof of allah grin grin grin

Happiness on me the day I have another child by my wife Zainab, Alhamdulillah. But Zainab is not a mother yet. This statement is a statement of affirmation of what will come in the future! This is in the same meaning as Jesus saying as a child that he will die peacefully at a later date. Allah says he is not dead, yet, and the claimed death "CUCIFIXION" is itself a proof that he has not died.
allah is a very confused guy.

in one breadth he says Jesus never died. . . in another breadth he quotes Jesus blessing the day He would die . . .how do u plan to rationalize this.
my opinion is that those who rebranded allah from a local arabian idol to an islamic moon god did a very very very bad job. . . . .they are not intelligent and seem to be uneducated.


Thats not what 19;71 said. Surah Mariam talks about mankind and that erse specifically says "Pass over it" and you can not say a pass over it is saying going into or staying in it or punished by it. If you can spin a spider web around it, please bring out the verse and lets analyse it. There is no proof that Muhammador Adam, or Noah, or Ibrahim, or any prophet and yes, Jesus will be punished, since they are all muslims. None of these men (AS) was a Jew by religion. If there is one, please say his name and give us proof.
1. just like allah and mohammed u just keep goofing. . . the difference is that u are goofing in the 21st century. . in the age of knowledge.
The rubbish allah and mohammed said could have been permissible thousands of years ago but definitely not now.
Allah said clearly that ALL muslims, regardless of their works would go to hell. . .and u want to rebrand it to say pass through. . . . .okay. . Give me one good reason why anyone should believe that allah would remove u from hell after consciously and willingly putting u there in the first place. huh

None of these men was a Christian. If there is any, please write his name and give us your proof.

Zaujah, Zaujahan, are companion, used for husband or wife. My wife is my zauj, and am also hers. And why a man in Paradise will get his own wife or wives and other Hourin, the wife  or wives will see the husband as hourin too. And a woman who makes Paradise alone, like the Unmarried and never sexed Marian Um Isa bin Mariam (AS) and Asiia zauj Laanatullahi kafr Fir'awn, they will get their hourin, Muhammad bin Abdallah (AS). Where is the confusion, and husband will be enough for his wife or wives, because both of them are now hourin to each other except that they used to be earthlings, instead of what was never onn earth!

And men are more sexual than women, for the most part, anyway. No africans can deny that in there extended family tree, there has not been a man who married more than 1 wife. And its interesting that Ibrahim (AS), Jacob (AS) and many of the ancenstral men of the bloodline of Jesus (AS), and Daud (AS) all had more than one wife!
lolz so the woman will get to share her man with 71 others in paradise after sharing him with 3 others on earth, . . grin grin grin grin please tell me this is a joke grin

If its killing apostates, Quran did not say that. If you can comb it out, I will like you to present it. There is a ahadith that says it as follows; whoever leaves his "religion" kill him. If therefore wr take this ahadith as it is without any qualification or "as the saying of the Christians"; interpretation, then a Jew who leaves Judaism to Christianity will be killed, a hindu who leave Hinduism to Islam should be killed, a Christian who leaves Chritianity to Islam should be killed, a muslim who leaves Islam to atheism should be killed. No? Thats the exact word for word of the meaning of the "ahadith" and the killers are not restricted to be muslims, but anyone, and leaving a religion and going to another or not at all, is not only from islam or to other(s)!

There must be a qualification and that qualification is that if the apostate leaves Islam, and goes about lying and determined to destroy it be all actions, war of words or ammonitions, etc, and if warned and will not stop, then if seized, he should be killed, because there is no society on earth or people or community that will deal less against its mortal enemy.

America my beloved country in her national glory is determined to kill Osama bin laden, Dr. Al Zakawi and other, if any of them is found, and they are not even apostates, and america is not by a long shot Muslim country yet, but considers these people as mortal enemies!

Thank you, aburo. Oseun to nki awa egbon e. Kaaro jare. Gbere jagunlabi omo oduduwa. Which one of the yoruba greeting you will reject?

I am the evidence that I exist. Quran is the evidence because it is consistent in over 1400 years, in its language (every muslim agrees that Quran is in Arabic and other languages' quran is not Quran), and the recitation is unchanging from way back then till now. If thats not evident enough for anyone, then that person will not be satisfied until death comes to him/her.
1. allah is a confused guy. . . .in so many parts of the koran he made several contradictory statements . . . first he asked u to ask from the jews and christians about anything u dont understand. . . .next he asks u to kill them off, . . . , then he says kill apostates. . , . .is there any reason why u think that allah is not a fraud?

2. the koran is the product of allah and it is a fraud. what is the source of the koran? was it written by angel jubril or crammed by muslims over the years?
first u lie that jubril gave it to mohammed . . . . .we later found out that it was not written until 300 years after mohammed had died.
u, mohammed and allah are a bunch of cheats and unintelligent frauds.
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by noetic2: 4:42am On Sep 10, 2009
@ olabs

a. did Jesus ever commit a sin?

b. did mohammed ever commit a sin?
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by noetic2: 4:39am On Sep 10, 2009
blkmum700:
@olabowale,
stop wasting your time on him because he will never accept.


@Noetic2,
where is your source that allah is fraud?if no source then i think you need to visit Yaba Left
what a dull head huh can u read at all? huh huh
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by noetic2: 4:13am On Sep 10, 2009
mazaje:
Go get them neotic. . . . tell them the truth. . . grin grin
lol grin grin everyone knows the truth.
Christianity EtcRe: Olabowale Buys Christianity From Noetic: Can Olabowale Sell Islam? by noetic2(op): 4:12am On Sep 10, 2009
Krayola2:
Aight. But do u think those that don't take it literally are not true christians?
It all bugs down to the premise. . . their position might be a reflection of their biblical knowledge or an ulterior motive.
The former is cool. . the latter is not Christ-like.

Krayola2:
some versions call them "God-fearers". . . who do u think they were?
I dont think that there is a difference between the two. fearing God goes beyond literal fear.
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by noetic2: 4:06am On Sep 10, 2009
Allah is One without partner and He begets none and He is not begotten. Thats a start. He alone is the Creator while others are creation
Allah is a complete fraud and plagiarist. Allah has been repeatedly caught describing himself in a plural form using WE. . . , that must be a legion of demons.


Six periods
I did not ask u for periods. . . all I asked was days. . in how many days did allah create the earth?

Allah told him (AS) stories of the past, if its Alexander, then it is Alexander!
grin grin grin
will u stop making a fool of urself? where is this written in the koran? when did allah tell mohammed stories? you are as ignorant as allah. . .always telling one lie to back up another grin grin

no where is Mary called wife of Allah and there is a group of the Christians who not only prays to Mary, but also calls her "mother of God"
grin grin what a liar u are. . . here are some of the lies of allah in his book

a. allah said mary is assumed to be co-equal to God

b. allah calls mary the sister of Aaron grin grin grin

c. Jesus clearly says in ur koran that peace be unto Him the day He dies. . . yet allah claims Jesus never died.
I hate repeating myself. . .allah is a fraud.

there is no place that Allah says that Muslims will be in Hell, or that he will punish true believers, that including Adam, Noah, Ibrahim, Musa, Isa bin Mariam and Muhammad (AS)
go and read surah 19:71
allah says all of u are HELL bound. grin grin

sex and other thngs are are parts of the pleasure of this world. A beautiful wife is something to enjoy by her husband. Thank Allah for women, I expect the best InshaAllah when I enter Paradise. And among the paradise wives of Muhammad (AS) will be Mariam umm Isa bin Mariam who no man ever slept with, and of course Assia, the believing wife of tyrannic black man Pharaoh.
u did not tell me what the females would get? if the males get 72 virgins, what would the females get?
if everyone in paradise are shagging virgins . . .what would allah be doing? will he be watching? grin grin grin

apostates who do not try to destroy by lying against Islam is unharmed.mere leaving out of Islam does not mean you will be killed right away, otherwise it will go against the Quranic verses that allow the many coming into and going out of Islam and the fact that 2;256 says there is no compulsion in religion, and others shall be unnecessary. But thats no the case. please check out the website answering-christianity.com's section about apostasy, and my responses at RickyBlack's thread " urgent answers to my muslim brothers and sisters on the NL religious tsection
can u please stop the lying?
how many apostates verses in the koran and haddith, where allah asks that apostates be killed do u want? 10 or 20?
why kill anyone anyway?

te Quran itself is the evidence. And the litmus of that evidence is that Quran says that Rome will defeat Persia after just being freshly defeated, it happened like it was stated, while the Bible cant say anything definitively about the fate of Moses pharaoh of the exodus, leaving out of the children of Israil, Quran says his tyrannical body will be evidence to later generation of his demise, and this body is the most viewed of all the pharaoh, and it led Dr. Maurice Bucchaeh of France to Islam. Even a present evidence.
you are so delusively ignorant.

how can koran be the evidence of itself? how can a forgery validate itself?
in how many days did the koran say the earth was created?
Christianity EtcRe: Olabowale Buys Christianity From Noetic: Can Olabowale Sell Islam? by noetic2(op): 3:45am On Sep 10, 2009
my position on matters like this is to follow literal biblical explanations except for instances where symbols are used in the prophecy. . .then one needs the appropriate knowledge to know the meaning of the symbols before interpreting the prophecy.
Christianity EtcRe: Stop And Think ,how Can God Exist And We Are Here Arguing Over It ? by noetic2: 3:29am On Sep 10, 2009
mazaje:
Ok let me give you some examples. . .The bible talks about god appearing to the Israelite or addressing them through public speeches at one point or the other but once he lives them alone they go and start worshiping idols grin grin. . . I find these tale so ridiculous and absurd. . .How can the Israelite disobey the kind  warrior and no nonsense kind of god talked about in the OT after he has appeared to them or addressed them through public speech. . . leave him and begin to worship idols grin grin. What kind of lalala tale is this? The same god that is said to appear to them and lead them in battles, strike them down when they disobey him, send mamma from heaven unto them etc. . . .This is just tales by moon light. . .
why dont u give a direct instance.
From what I gather. . . it is very human to backslide even after a season of receiving miracles. . . . .disbelieve/faithlessness is a human tendency as seen even in today's group of believers. On a lighter note. . . the stories u read that make u disbelieve in the existence of God, has been read by others and they are strengthened by it in their belief in God. . .what does that tell u?

[b]There are stories in the bible that have the bible god who is said to be an all knowing deity showing emotional outburs[/b]t. . . .I have told you before that humans express emotions due to knew knowledge acquired in one way or the other. . .In contrast, the omniscient God is ignorant of nothing. Nothing is hidden from him, nothing new may be revealed to him, so there is no gained knowledge to which he may emotively react. . . . . humans experience anger and frustration when something is wrong which we cannot fix. The perfect, omnipotent god, however can fix anything. Humans experience longing for things we lack. The perfect god lacks nothing. An omniscient, omnipotent, and perfect god who experiences emotion is impossible.
Any examples?

You first of all have to prove to me that your god created the universe. . . moslems claim their allah did it. . you are yet to prove them wrong. . .provide your evidence to show that your god created the universe first of all then we will continue from there. . . unsubstantiated claims based on faith alone are not allowed. . .
u made the insidious claim that God does not exist. . .so the onus and burden of proof is on u to prove ur statement. . . . . .so what is the evidence to back up ur assertion?
Christianity EtcRe: Olabowale Buys Christianity From Noetic: Can Olabowale Sell Islam? by noetic2(op): 3:22am On Sep 10, 2009
whats their basis for not believing the above?
Christianity EtcRe: Olabowale Buys Christianity From Noetic: Can Olabowale Sell Islam? by noetic2(op): 12:37am On Sep 10, 2009
Krayola2:
There have always been disagreement over which Gospels had authority. . .right from the start. Which is why people had to vote on the canon. Even after the vote there were grievances.

Which church do u refer to as having no qualms with the Bible ? The Catholic church, coptic, gnostic etc, or the ones that came about about 1200 years later because of their different understanding of the Bible? Which one(s), in your opinion, have the right interpretation, and why?

Were Nigerians part of the target audience?


In your opinion, who were the target audiences and what message did the authors seek to convey to them?

U said the events in the new testament occured just as recorded, and then go on to say it is not a historical document, i'm not sure what u mean.


Who are the "God-worshippers" mentioned in the new-testament?
1. The church refers to the body of Christ. . . , body or believers and NOT a sect or denomination. catholic, RCCG et all are denominations.

2. The body of Christ does not dispute the authenticity of the bible. No true christians have a problem with the bible. true believers are only identified by the manifestation of the holy spirit. . .that was the same spirit that inspired the bible.

3. The God-worshippers, if I understand ur point. . .are those who worship the father (in acknowledgement of the son) in spirit and in truth.

4. the vote or other forms of bible are best understood by analysing the premise for having a different bible. what stops u from conducting ur own research and come up with ur findings?

5. The bible occured as it was written to form a picture of events to the church within the space of time. . . . .it was not written to be a guide to historians.
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by noetic2: 12:29am On Sep 10, 2009
olabowale:
« #5 on: Today at 11:34:00 PM »  Aliar will always be a liar, regardless of how you package you. While your idolatry 3 gods minds did not let you know the difference between allah of the  pagan period, and Allah of the period from the beginning of IDAYAH, I thought your yoruba heritage will help to open your blindness. allah is exactly a fraud like god the son, god the holy ghost, and god the father. Each one of them is different from Allah the AlQaliq; Sole Creator! So say what pleases you, you werent ready to learn, your case is like that of karrun, hamana and indeed that of pharaoh who perished in the sea by a mere stick actibg as the key! Everyone else have the opportunity to read my post, so they will be the judge.
if I gent a cent for every time u have repeated the semantic above. . .I would be a trillionaire by now.
your arguments dont add up. . . . . . .everyone is laughing at the folly of your trinity analysis. ,  . .this is becoming disgraceful. . .drop it.

and you must know so much about the arabs, along with your arab historians, if what you are saying is true, then why did Abu Jahal, Abi Lahab and his wife all refused to follow Muhammad (AS), knowing fully well that he must have just colorred anew their idol,except if they knew that what he introduced was completely different and it is the what Ibrahim worshipped? You do know that they knew about Ibrahim (AS), or you dont know?

Finally, why would Abi Talib refused to say that he believed in Allah as the Lord even on his death bed, if it is true that it is an idol, escept that he and the idol worshippers knew that Allah is not their idol, and they must destroy from their hearts all idols as well as the physical idols? This is like a dumb waiter that am resonding to!
where is the evidence to suggest that abraham ever knew or served the arabian idol called allah?
Christianity EtcRe: I, A Former Islamic Extremist . . . by noetic2: 12:09am On Sep 10, 2009
tsalam:
these a paid advert i careless of all these useless talk i know you did not understand these a propaganda
what do u mean by propaganda? what part of the article is false?
Christianity EtcRe: Stop And Think ,how Can God Exist And We Are Here Arguing Over It ? by noetic2: 11:54pm On Sep 09, 2009
mazaje:
You have started again eh noetic grin grin. Again what are the evidence? What evidence do you have for the existence of your god apart from the bible and the sweet lies you keep telling yourself all the time, the bible is a book that men wrote and claimed that their god told them to write it. . .I sat in church for many years every Sunday and also weekdays as a kid and as a teenageer and thought that somehow I'd heard the whole bible story in both the OT and NT. But when I eventually decided to read the bible cover to cover I soon realized that it was only carefully selected parts they had been reading to us in church, and that the complete book actually does not make much sense in the modern world because even christians pick and choose which parts of the new testament to accept and discard. . . .

The scale of the stupidity, horror, brutality and contradictions only started to crystallize for me when I read the thing as a whole. Reading it in snippets is very fine actually because you can do away with all the babaric, horrible and contradictory parts. . . . it's mostly bullshit made up by people living under a cloak of ignorance and bigotry
u are missing the bigger picture.

how does any of the biblical stories disprove the existence of God? I just dont get it. . . . . , pick a story in the bible and tell us why u think this story supports ur claim that God does not exist.

No matter how much you lie to yourself and keep banging your head on the wall claiming and ascribing everything to your god does not make it true. . . . .Let me also make a claim, zeus created the universe prove to me that he did not. . . .
you have not stated why what u call nature could not have been created by God?
Christianity EtcRe: Olabowale Buys Christianity From Noetic: Can Olabowale Sell Islam? by noetic2(op): 11:48pm On Sep 09, 2009
Krayola2:
thanks. smiley

Do u think everything the new testament says happened actually did happen? e.g. That the authors of the Gospels (In the case of John about a century after Jesus) rightly quoted Jesus word for word and never imposed their own beliefs on him. Can u tell this just by reading the bible? Is the Bible infallible (like it's authors and people who compiled it). Just want your opinion. .
The new testament happened just as was recorded. It is the infallible word of God, written under the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

One can only appreciate the new testament if u attempt to find out why it was written? who the target audience were? and the basis for writing them?
The entire new testament was written to several churches/bodies of believers facing diverse challenges at various times. The new testament was not written for intellectual analysis, historical records or as a basis for debating the existence or non-existence of God.
has the target audience had a problem with the bible? has the church complained about the bible. . .the answer is a NO.
It is only when non members attempt to apply the bible to their primordial dogmatic belief that there is a problem of interpretation of bible.
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by noetic2: 11:34pm On Sep 09, 2009
olabowale:
@Noetic2; « #1 on: Today at 03:53:42 PM » Thank Allah Who made your finger to type the confession.

Like in every society, concept of a God or Gods, or god or gods is constant as long as there was human. So in the case of PreIslam of Muhammad (AS), the makkans fell into idolatry, and they had all kind of idols as intermediaries for every day and everything who they take to communicate with Allah, allah their God, god who is the Creator, creator based on knowledged mixed with the ignorance of idolatry/disbelief!

So allah that you may say that abd-allah the father of Muhammad was worshipping was in that fashion of idolatry, just like the Onishongos of my beloved Yoruba tribe know that Olorun Oba exist, yet they kneel down and worship Shongo who is to carry their demand, worship to olorun oba. However when knowledge of One complete God arrived in Yorubaland, whereby many left idolatry, Olorun Oba (olorun oba) remains in the vocabulary to express this Real God discovered by Knowledge and faith, in belief that there is no need for intermediaries, eg Shango, and others to exist if one is a true "believer!" So from the family of Shongodeyis, you now have Imams. But lets assume that olorun oba was used by the Shongodeyi for their god then, now the iman name his son olorunobafemi, can we then say that the boy is named after shango or not named after Olorun Oba, the God that one can connect to without the usual shango, that they already scrap for junk, and melted down and sent to China to make some car parts?

This above scenerio, in yoruba's old shango worshipper is what happened to Allah of Muhammad, while the allah of his father as scrap for idol descruction. The Allah of pure belief in monotheism, is different from allah of polytheism. olufemi of ifa worship is different from Olufemi of Islamic monotheistic worship, but both carry the Olu a short form of Oluwa.
From the above we can deduce the following

1. allah is an arabian fraud. mohammed was not born until his father died. mohammed introduced allah by denouncing the 360 gods of arabia.
mohammed's father abd-allah served one of these gods called allah. this was the same allah that mohammed's father came to rebrand.
we can dennote from this that mohammed served the god of his father. . . , the local arabian idol called allah. . . . whom u have just compared to sango.

2. there is a big distinction between the historical idolic arabian allah and the linguistic allah. while arabian historians acknowledge that the arabian allah is what was rebranded to the islamic allah. . , .the same cannot be said of Jehovah God who is linguistically called allah in arabic.

3. allah is self-contradicting and demonic personality. history shows that allah had a wife called allat and 3 daughters. mohammed disregarded this family of allah to give arabians a new idol. It is so strange that this simple piece of historical fact could be discarded by ignorant persons bowing to the east in worship of the moon.

4. The ridiculous continuous association of islam, allah and the moon in islamic festivals is a good testament of the prevalent idolatory as done by abd-allah the father of mohammed.
abd-allah served the moon god called allah. , . . .muslims all over the world worship the moon.

Reading my above explanation, what the Muslims have is not allah of the premuslim period of Makka, but Allah Who sent Muhammad as a Messenger and Prophet (AS) to al, starting from his own people and inviting the rest to it, without saying that he was sent to his own people only.
your above explanation was next to nonsense.

a. why does allah not have other prophets?

b. if allah has other prophets, where are their works recorded?

c. what makes mohammed a prophet? what were his miracles? did he perform any? what are the qualities of a prophet? is pedophilia and thighing part of the essential qualities of islamic prophethood? whats the essence of a prophet who never forgave?

And as to the changes of what you called the "Biblical testamental traditions", [b]what is true of them, are found in the Qura[/b]n, plus what the Biblical writers left out of the truth, and the corrections of the lies you will find in the Bible, both Old and New Testamental traditions! This si why trinity was destroyed with just few statements, even though the word Trinity is not found in the pages of the Bible, and the Christians got stocked with that idea. To shake it off, and break out of that bondage of Trinity, read Surah Almaida. Read Surah mariam,. Read Ambiyyah. Read Surah Qasas. Read Surah Iklas, and others, but read you must.
you are such a fraud.

a. where is ur proof that suggests that the koran contains a single element of truth?

b. how many days did the creation take place?

c. how did mohammed manage to see alexandra the great?

d. why was the writer of the koran so ignorant and delusive to have called mary the wife of God and a member of the trinity?

e. why did the koran quote Jesus as saying "blessed be the day I would Die" ?

f. why has allah decided to deposit all muslims in hell fire?

g. why would allah reward his faithfuls with sexual orgy. . . . .72 virgins? what do the female get?

h. why does allah not give apostates the liberty of not worshipping him? why does he want them killed? why is forgiveness not an option to allah?

i. why is allah and the koran so contradicting? in one breadth allah asks u to consult the bible and torah for koran confirmation., . . . .in another breadth he asks u to kill christians and jews for being unbelievers?

j. why is allah such a fraud? where is the evidence to suggest that anything in the koran is true? why should anyone believe what allah says?
Christianity EtcRe: Olabowale Buys Christianity From Noetic: Can Olabowale Sell Islam? by noetic2(op): 4:00pm On Sep 09, 2009
olabowale:
@Noetic; « #36 on: Today at 11:54:45 AM » Your disbelieving heart and soul will not let you be able to make any meaning of it, since the three gods are opposing one another in your multigod heart! Again I said you failed miserably in trying to sell 3 VW cars to me as a single Lamborghini Melargo, or Koenigsegg CCR!
I did not expect u to gasp the concept of trinity. . .its too complex for u. , .I understand.

Whats ur next question?
Christianity EtcRe: The Price Is Only Belief/faith In One Single God, Without Parnership. Buy It Low by noetic2: 3:53pm On Sep 09, 2009
lolz grin grin grin grin what an amazing introduction grin grin grin

I will start with two questions.

1. mohammed's father is called abd-allah. , . . .who was the allah he was serving, since he died before mohammed introduced u to allah?
are there two different allah's?

2. is allah the God who appeared to the biblical prophets? if yes. . .why did allah change all the biblical/old testamental traditions like annointing oil et all? if no. . , .who EXACTLY then is allah?
Christianity EtcRe: Stop And Think ,how Can God Exist And We Are Here Arguing Over It ? by noetic2: 3:40pm On Sep 09, 2009
mazaje:
grin grin grin grin. I asked neotic to tell me what jesus looked like when he appeared to him in his dreams and he started to insult me. . . grin grin
this is not true. . . . . grin
Christianity EtcRe: Stop And Think ,how Can God Exist And We Are Here Arguing Over It ? by noetic2: 3:37pm On Sep 09, 2009
mazaje:
Most of the stories were lies, fantasies and myths that never happened. . . I was told that a man had the ability to stop the earth from rotating just because he and his friends wanted to commit murder. . . A man survived inside a fish for 3 days. . men turned sticks into snakes etc. . . if the ancient egyptians can turn their sticks into snakes during the time of moses why can't they do it now?(The entire exodus tale is a lie because there is no evidence of the jews ever living in egypt out side the lying torah)
u ahve simply chose to disbelieve the evidences. . . .that does not discredit the evidences. . or does it?
that aside. . . . . are the stories the basis of disbelieving in God? where are ur numerous evidences to prove that God does not exist?

What are the billions of evidence?
let us start from the things u FALSELY call nature. . . . they are over one billion.
IslamRe: Whats The Essence Of Ramaddan? by noetic2(op): 3:27pm On Sep 09, 2009
u have not told me the significance of rammadan? why should anyone observe ramadan?
Forum GamesRe: What Do You Think The Person Above You Should Advertise? by noetic2: 2:42pm On Sep 09, 2009
ice cream
Christianity EtcRe: Stop And Think ,how Can God Exist And We Are Here Arguing Over It ? by noetic2: 12:24pm On Sep 09, 2009
mazaje:
I was lied to as a kid. . . . now I KNOW its a LIE. . . . .
where is ur proof that it was a lie?


Absence of evidence is evidence of absence. . . .
what do u define as "evidence"? cos the last time I checked there are billions of evidences that support the existence of God.
Forum GamesRe: What Do You Think The Person Above You Should Advertise? by noetic2: 12:22pm On Sep 09, 2009
I am not gonna be nice to her. . .she knows why cheesy

@ topic

Tatase
Christianity EtcRe: Mazaje When Did You Leave Christianity? by noetic2: 12:21pm On Sep 09, 2009
banom:
I am just scared about your own version of Christianity,
lolz cheesy what part of my christianity is problematic?
Christianity EtcRe: Mazaje When Did You Leave Christianity? by noetic2: 12:20pm On Sep 09, 2009
mazaje:
Noetic my man. . .  kiss kiss grin grin
u are the main man. . . . . grin grin

though I dont think that ur reasons for leaving christianity are genuine. ,  . , just my thoughts.


mazaje:
Since its a hypothetical question then I will say that I don't know. . . . .what is your own explanation for it?. . . .
dreams do come from the brain as a result of fantasies. . .  .but not ALL dreams.
99% of my personal dreams are warnings about future events. . . . .which always take the shape of the dream. . . . that could not have been formed from my brain.
There is as such a supernatural context to dreams also. Coincidence is NOT a factor.
Christianity EtcRe: Stop And Think ,how Can God Exist And We Are Here Arguing Over It ? by noetic2: 12:15pm On Sep 09, 2009
mazaje:
If god exist then where is he?. . . . .Neotic if you know where he is then pls show me. . . . grin grin
I thought u were once a christian. . . . . He still lives where u were told He lives in ur sunday school. . . .try and remember.

where is ur evidence that suggests He does not EXIST?
Christianity EtcRe: Mazaje When Did You Leave Christianity? by noetic2: 12:13pm On Sep 09, 2009
what a bunch of ignoramuses grin grin grin grin
Christianity EtcRe: Stop And Think ,how Can God Exist And We Are Here Arguing Over It ? by noetic2: 12:09pm On Sep 09, 2009
banom:
This is the worst thing i have ever heard in nairaland, am i the person to prove that you are a liar or are you the person to prove that you are saying the truth,

well, i prove to you he doesn't exist if only you can define EXISTENCE for me.
If u think that what has been said is a LIE . . . .then the onus is on u to prove it.
If God does not exist. . . .why do u have a problem proving it?
Christianity EtcRe: Mazaje When Did You Leave Christianity? by noetic2: 12:05pm On Sep 09, 2009
banom:
@ noetic2,

Your dream story above is it  reality or fictitious ?
that is irrelevant. why dont u guys just answer the questions?
Christianity EtcRe: Mazaje When Did You Leave Christianity? by noetic2: 11:58am On Sep 09, 2009
mazaje:
Can you give me one example of this happening or are you asking a hypothetical question?
what difference does it make?. . . why dont u just answer the questions?

"I DONT KNOW " is allowed.

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