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tubabie:
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ur visa must be checked again. . . lolz

are u saying the cat is lost?

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bicycles

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did tudor actually read adakwu's last post before responding?

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its unbelievable. . .Lagos agbero attempting to speak english.

u try small doyin

muhsin:
Ain't doing that. Wanna learn. That all.

If thats the case, we should all quit this discussion. Take our scriptures and read. Nope. Like to read them (i.e. laws) from you.

I do. And thats just another name for God in Hebrew like Allaha in Aramaic, Allah in Arabic, etc.

Thanks

what?

what is the contextual meaning of ELOHIM?

olabowale:
Ahadeeth of the day is the topic. Is there supposed to be anything except ahadeeth and its explanation and presentation for or against? To bring the Bible, with its jexpulations of writers like jigsaw puzzels, is am insult to Islam. We do not have a Quran written by inspiration of a spirit whose description of responsibility did not include inspiring somebody to write a Bible! Read what Jesus said of Holy ghost will come to do since you said it is the another comforter. Either Biblical Jesus was wrong or you people are the liars. This is at least the possible condition because the two of you cant be correct about holy spirit in this case!

And Jesus said that whoever called a man a fool will go to Hell. But he turned around and called people fools! Now tell me who is sinlees? Jesus? Read your Bible. And I have not spoken about the killing of the innocent Fig tree. Now who is sinless, Jesus? And the removing of spirits "Okay evil spirits" from a person and herding them into a grazing innocent pigs which therefore made them drowned themselves! Now who is Sinless, Jesus? It is ironic that the same pigs is what you Christians eat so much and cant get enough of, and at the same time you claim that what goes into the mouth is not so important except what comes out of it. Well we hear you are what you eat and you eat pigs and what comes out of your mouth is not but filth!

And I did not go to the whispering and control of Satan on Jesus. Part of it, the Christians call it temptation. Lol.

blah blah blah what has the rubbish u posted got to do with the thread?

muhsin:
Elohim is just another name for God in Hebrew, don't you know this? For I see you are wholly confuse about that. And the Allah is the Arabic word. I can remember I once educate your ally--davidylan, on that.

And what are the attribute of the God?

1-God is All Knowing. . . But Jesus was not.

When speaking on the day of judgment, Jesus clearly gave evidence of a limitation of his knowledge when he said, "But of that day and hour knoweth nor man, no, not the angels which are in Heaven, neither the son, but the Father." (Mark, 13:32 and Matthew 24:36)

2-God is All Powerful. . . But Jesus was not

While Jesus performed many miracles, he himself admitted that the power he had was not his own but was derived from God when he said, "Verily, verily I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do. . .(John 5:19)

3-God does not have a God. . . But Jesus did have a God

See John, 20:17; Mathew, 27:46; Luke, 11:2-4, etc.

4-God's will was distinct from his own

See John 14:28 & 8:42; Luke 22:42, etc

5-God is neither flesh nor blood while Jesus is

See Genesis 1:26, Isiah 40:18 & 25, etc

6-Among others.

Thanks

what a meaningless rhetoric.

why spend ur time quoting the bible, i tot the bible is currupt?. . .when was the last time u EVER quoted 5 passages from the koran?

alimat 2:
There is no confusion but those interpreting the Jesus and God issue actually set in confusion for themselves.

@noetic,
assume u hav a son that is all of resemblance with u and has all ur qualities will the people around u take the son of urs as u?

In Genesis it was stated that Adam and his wife become 1 does that means that Adam was Eve /Eve was Adam.


Why did u find it difficult to understand the parable of Jesus when he says he and his father are 1

its just like saying ME and my HUSBAND are 1. does that mean am my husband? and vice verse.

what a joker.

Are u the one who is going to explain the words of Jesus to me?

why spend ur time interpreting the bible. . . i tot u guys claimed it is corrupt?

muhsin:
Can I know what are these laws?
As far as I know the laws say we should worship ONE and ONLY GOD.

can u please stop irritating me?

Go and read the old testament to know the laws.

What about these verses:

"And this is life eternal, that they might know You the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom You have sent." John 17:3

"I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel."(Mathew, 15:24).

Has he ever preached that?

Who is the God of Moses, Noah, Jacob and other prophets?

Thanks

do u know the meaning of ELOHIM?

I cant keep repeating myself. . . . .

This is hilarious !

why use plural for allah . . .even in English or arabic. islam is such a fraud.

muhsin:
Hello all,

Like the discussion.
And my compliment to Noetic. Had never seen the guy respond to questions like in this thread.

Lets continue. . .
I am wholly unclear with your statement that "7. He is NOT a prophet neither is He a messenger." If really he is neither of the two why did he in a myriad verses claim he's sent? For example in this one: "Do you think that I have come to do away with the Law of Moses and the Teachings of the Prophets. I have not come to do away with them, but to make the teachings come true." (Mathew, 5:17)

Need an explanation before I continue. Thanks

from the above we know two things.

a. Jesus did not come to do away with the laws of the prophets. All His life He fulfilled the law that we might be exempt from the punishment of disobeying the law. . .that explains why we plead for forgiveness in the name of Jesus.

b. The verse above does not in any way suggest that Jesus is a prophet or messenger. why not go study ur koran?
Jesus is God.

muhsin:
Let's retake it, Noetic.

God exists in three person, as you say? OK?

1-Was Jesus a prophet or a god?

He was neither, . . . .He was/is God the Son. . . .Elohim, the triune God.

2-Jesus died. Yes. Did he die as a prophet or a god?

He came to redeem the soul of mankind. Only God can do that. . .Jesus is as such God.

3-Did Jesus preach Trinity or not?

ur answer is in mathew 28:19

4-If God was actually a Trinity, why ALL other prophets before Jesus didn't preach it?

All koran/islamic "prophets" served the arabian idol . . .called allah.
All biblical prophets served ELOHIM. . . .Elohim is the plural of God. Elohim means God the Father, Son and the Holy spirit.

5-Why are there clear cut verses that say God is ONE and only ONE?

why not trace the original translation. . .it says ELOHIM is one and only ONE.
I believe u now know who Elohim is. . .or dont u?

7-Some even say he's god's son. How?

He is God the son. . . . Same as the son of God.

8-etc

You see? There is an absolute confusion. I want you to think reflectively, Noetic, and answer me. Thanks

Confusion exists only in ur mind.

alimat 2:
So that is ur definition of TRINITY and this also tells u dat jesus said u should worship him as God,

Thank God Jesu is still coming BACK as u hav said then u will say before him that he said all this u are saying right now






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what a scene that great day will be![/s]

why did u not answer my question?

alimat 2:
@  NOETIC,

u really dnt need to stroke or cancel Jesus frm the other men of God, what u trying to say is that JESUS KNOWS ABOUT TRINITY?
If yes where did he say so in the bible

whats the meaning of the mantra above?

what is the meaning of ELOHIM? is that so hard to answer. . . .
These are the words of Jesus. . . . even a dumb person can make a meaning out of this.
9Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

fellis:
@noetic,
There is no verse in the Bible where Jesus asked to be worshipped or explained the trinity is there? From yesterday till now, no answer.

why do enjoy LYING to urse lf. . . .
since u know so much about the bible. . .can u explain this verse to me then mathew 28:19
9Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

But there are verses in which he said he wasn't God.
Alimat, if you want to know who Jesus Christ is according to the Bible, read John 20:17 and Mark 10:18.---->definitely not God, the creator of the heavens and the earth. Or read John 8:28 ; he was a prophet.

why did u not answer my questions?

what is the meaning of ELOHIM?

u wonder how illetracy became synonumous with islam/muslims.

alimat 2:
Pls i just want to know if JESUS, MOSES, ABRAHAM, NOAH, ISSAC, DAVID,SOLOMON ETC all know what TRINITY is?


Cos i think their preaching in the bible is just about THE ONLY ONE TRUE GOD




I will be very grateful is reasonable responds is provided

The one true God they served is called ELOHIM. . . . . I believe u know who Elohim is, or dont u?

How can I slap sexyLeamon. . . nah

save. . , how u doin?

chocolate

shez a chi

or maybe they think that ur questions. . .though naive . . .have been answered. . .

Save

reason. . . . aint got a choice.

Kelvinj:
Save.
Guy hw far?

I am kwel. , .how u dey?

hugz again.

I am cool. . .and u, howdy?
where did u hide switD?

hugz

dont u think shez better off keeping her "viewz" to herself?