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I like what he writes becaue it is the truth.

Many nigerians lost their brain, and the brain belongs to this charimatic/pentecost so called God of Men.

He also wanted to open a school in UK but at the moment it looks if this school didnot got the okay from the UK goverment.

Times get harder fpr this so called Man of God.

nannymcphee:
herein lies the problem with this prosperity message!! What is wrong with being a TAXI DRIVER?

If all taxi driver's in the world is won over to Christ, who then will drive taxi's? Without them how can people move around

I guess you're in Nigeria that's why you said this! Do you know how much those folks make in a day? But in your thinking, they don't drive big cars & own houses etc they are not wealthy!!!

God can prosper a taxi driver in the taxi business

Paul in the bible was a tent maker!! Your Jesus was a Carpenter


this is the problem with the prosperity message teaching that all Christians must/should/ought to be rich

The key word is contentment, there are people who will never have their own house all their lifetime but will be happy & prosperous paying rent (be it face me I face you, be it bungalow or duplex)

so in ur world, a true Christian cannot remain a maid, cleaner, gateman, cook etc because Jesus will elevate them.

let's do a little Mathis

a taxi driver that earns N3000/day(they earn more than this) this amounts to N90,000/month

There are graduates that teach in schools, even engineers that earn btw 10,000-45,000

Who is more prosperous ? I guess you'll say they both need Jesus

the above category of folks can only pray to God to uplift their status/bless the work of their hands & God in his sovereignty will determine how & if he answers them

This is the big problem all whant this white collar jobs but not every body can have this and this preaching is also very dangerous for the society.
I just watch a TV documentation about radical christianity in america who have a connetion with the ku clux clan who teach their kids at home because they will learn about the evoluten and this is not in the bible.
The girls didnot need a job it is better when they learn how to drink tea because they could get an invitation to the queen of england and the girls didnot need to lean a job, and I hope this will not take over to nigeria.
Why a girl should not get an education this is not better than the taliban who also say that girls need no education.

Intacta:
Are u high or just incredibly stew.. pid?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waris_Dirie

read the books from this somali woman and than you will understand

I know her and she speaks about it and the problems she has until now.

She is one of the fighters against it.

donroxy:
please can you educate me on the advantages of female circumcision/Genital Mutilation ?

Is there difference between Female circumcision and genital mutilation ?

Other than promiscuity as an excuse what are the demerit attached to uncircumcised genital ?

Thanks !

Female circumcision and genital mutilation ? It is the same only different names.

In UK a sudanes man has to go to Jail for 10 years because he cut the clitoris from his chilc with a sissor.

Intacta:
For aesthetic reasons, I don't think type 1 female genital cutting is bad.. Just a little cut out from d clitoris...

you are a woman and you found it right sorry it is not the same between man an woman

you are a disgrace because all woman should fight against it.

It is barbaric

Misogynist2014:
Okay! After through research, I discovered that:
1) Female circumcision is done by women (even my grandmother was worrying why it wasn't done for my cousin.) It won't be so if it deforms women.
2) The male foreskin serves as a lubricant, which enhances arousal like female.
3) Male and female can both easily get infection.
4) Just like the foreskin of males, it promotes sexûal perversion if the society can't control it, since boys are always ready and if girls join the clique, the situation becomes very bad. (e.g. USA)
5) Women have a lot of G-spöts, clïtöris adds to it. Just like the law of addition of vectors, it makes arousal increase, consequentially promoting sexual perversion.
This doesn't mean its a must to cut it, but the issue is being overblown.

read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation

because you read nothing

Misogynist2014:
I'm serious. I've done a lot of research on it. Did you know female genital circumcision is done by women? That will explain to you why its an hoax.

I know you can write it because you are a man and you know nothing and you didnot make a good research than you will know that it gives big problems for women when they want to give birth and still many woman die because of this.

it is the same when i cut your ......

Misogynist2014:
It is called circumcision, not mutilation. It is done for both male and female, in fact, it has same effect on both males and females. Female circumcision is done everywhere in the world, including America. If properly done, it has no harmful effect on women(would have been stopped centuries ago, if its bad.Its a lie that it affects female sex life, since its not the only G-Spöt) Female circumcision is very important, since its about cutting off clïtorïs(functions like pènìs) which appears in female, due to the fact that they are not genetically good enough to grow a male organ. Search the rest on Google .

what you write is not tru and it is only know in Africa and in Arab countries and it is the bades what can happen to a woman.

You know nothing and it is not the same when it happen to a man.

I know you didnot learn this in the school.

Infomizer:
Cancer next please! And HIV/AIDS

On cancer they are working, but this take time.

That are realy good news because I have a cousin with this and he has at the moment a Insulin pump since he is 25 and he was one of the first to get this in my country and this is now about 30 years ago and he can live a real normal life.

But this news are very good.

Ladystewie:
News reaching me is that the formidable CU has suspended various students for many trivial reasons such as double piercings in their ear, phone possession, having sim enabled ipads and other silly reasons. The students are to be suspended for four weeks, just three weeks to examinations, and are to go home today.

IMO, this is wickedness of the highest order. How would you suspend students just a few weeks to exams? The normal practise of the school is to suspend erring students at the start of a new semester but, these students are going home towards exam period. And when people bash the school, they complain.

I also her the school takes great joy in expelling and suspending students for foolish reasons. And how the school makes final year students come back(spill over) for one whole year just because of a 3 unit course.. Really stupid
Your opinions??

This is no University this is a secondary school.

But what to you want from a man who is a God of Man who make his own laws.

We have also private Universities and when this Universities have such law they would lose the accreditation because this is against human rights.

sukkot:
rapture has happened and those who got raptured know themselves. rapture happens inside you. all those who think people will disappear or start flying in the sky are not reading the bible correctly or are taking the scriptures too literally. however what is next for the raptured is the attainment of spiritual powers and the words put in thir inward parts ( inability to sin ) ( spirit programmed with the laws and word )

NIgerians are worldchampions when it comes to twist the bible.

Yeah you are the best, you are the number one.

The last told us that the world will end at the end of September.

Adeboye told us the rapture will come soon but why he still has all his money and his jet, he didnot need this should give the money to the poor.

So you come out with the world war III so let us wait

When will be the next.

All 3 are NIgerians and what all what to gether is put fear to the people from nigeria.

She sould try to get help in an europa country and she wil get help, when you know her I know where she wil get help that she could be free because this is barbaric and it bring more harm to a child that it helps her.

I know a woman from nigeria who life in my country and she help woman.

mcshol:
madam Nora, I strongly agree with all ur posts. Love is the key to salvation. Very few people know this. Religion can't save everybody. Rather ppl will continue to be misled by fraudsters. I am catholic though but I believe religion is not d answer but love of our neighbour. It is rightly said dat d love of one's neighbour is the love of God. Thank u for ur posts.

YEah that is tru and you will never hear from this new charismatic/pentecost churches that they preach love because this word didnot fill the pocket from this fake so called God of Man.

I never hear preaching about money in my church and I am catholic too.

I have a very good friend he is a catholic priest from nigeria he lives now in my country and we work together with some other people we have a non profit organisation and we build a school in Kenya and not all are catholics we have also lutherans and some who didnot belong to a church but we all together know what we make will help to give some Kids a better future.

Dan1cole:
Yes Christianity is all about Love. But how do we demonstrate our love? Definitely by giving. Just like God did in John 3:16. *You must be a religious person*

Most of this pastors didnot know what love is but what they know it the word money and that is the wrong word.

I know what it mean to be a real christian, I know at the moment there are more than 10 million people who need help because they lose all and when I help this poor people and when I can only help two childs to stay safe and healthy during the winter that is what is mean to be a real christian.

I learned from my father who was a teacher for religion.what it means to be a real christian.

hifaif:
Why should he worry about being impecunious?

If Adeboye were a good religious leader, he would only worry about his daily bread. Why should he ride, own and maintain a jet that can be sold to feed thousands?

A selfless leader derives happiness in feeding his followers. He does not worry about going broke as long as his followers feed well.

Only a self-centered person would hoard up wealth while millions lanquish in abject poverty.

Some apologists claim the church is helping the poor. How is that? If the church were truly helping the poor, we won't have 5 Nigerian pastors on the list of top 10 world's richest pastors while Nigeria is on the list of countries with a concentration of the poorest people in the world.

I coulnot write it better!

Adeboye is mocking his poor followers I remember last year in August he want money that he could build his 3 kilimeter church, he want to get money from his followers but what you waant from a man you didnot pay tax to the goverment and his friends in the right position helped him and the second he wh help a bankmanager who take the money from poor people that he could stay free ist now a pastor in his church all I can say is a tief and a thief they like always stay together and the other thiefs from the goverment are helping him.

He is a disgrace for a real christian we all this rich pastors in Nigeria and ameriKa.

Dan1cole:
People start churches and do not succeed, they end up crumbled and their churches close down. But these pastors have succeeded and keep succeeding. Why because they simply follow bible principles. When it comes to prosperity in the kingdom, you must follow principles. That is why these pastors mostly preach prosperity to their members, so that their members can also succeed and prosper like or even more than them. But when members begin to think that the pastor is just preaching 'giving' to extort money from them, how do you think God will accept even if they eventually give (they give grudginly and not cheerfully out of love)? Or how will they prosper/receive and get blessed if they refuse to give?
Have you not heard "Believe in your prophet and you shall prosper." #Bible
I know that mega-churches give, thats why they are mega. And also their pastors (I know of Oyedepo, Adeboye and David Ibiyeomie) all give too, thats why they keep receiving/prospering and are blessed. If you dont believe, then ask God in prayers to show/tell you if its true.

Don't be a critic simply because you keep disobeying and keep staying broke. Be wise!
#InsultsAreWelcomed

This big pastors are very good speakers and that is it, and this big pastors are a big fraud, since when is God a money printing machine. When you work than you will have money but God will never send something to you do you know that christianity is about love but I know in nigeria it is all about money and that is a heresy gospel.

He should sell all what belong to the church and to him and give it to the poor, there are many people who need our help but I know this will not be happen because all what he wants that his brainwased followers will have fear.

What a big liar this so called Man of God is because he is only a God of Man and not more.

Yeah that is like we see it here in Europa.

jamace:
All these pastors are opposites of JESUS and his apostles.
-Jesus perform miracle to feed the hungry. The pastors threaten the poor and hungry to pay tithe.
- Jesus Wine and dine with sinners. The pastors wine and dine with who is who in the society.
-Jesus goes to the wilderness to fast and pray. These pastors sleep in mansions with airconditioned rooms and prays only for more prosperity.
-Jesus had no house or properties. These pastors are businessmen with mansions and private jets.
-Jesus preaches about holiness. These pastors preach prosperity, how you get it is not their concern.
-Jesus was a friend of the poor. If you are not a gov, senator, president or a man of timber and caliber, these pastors will not associate with you.
-Jesus had no body guards or house guards. These pastors move in convoys with powerful security escorts. Devil baptize you if you go near their wellfortfied houses, the security men will beat hell out of you.
-e.t.c
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1000000000000000000 likes that is tru.

mandarin:
Realistically Christianity is a blessing.Thank God the reporter ascertained that the gospel is exported to the world, the church also employ thousands(that would probably have been unemployed),invest in education, and provide for business enterprise to grow.
All over the world,organizations registered as charity do not pay taxes, it can't be different in Nigeria and if such organizations are engaged in activities that promote profit making then its left to government to do their jobs.However, if such profits ate spent on nonprofits activities you still can't tax them.
Western countries have largely lost their Christian models and are beginning to see alot of their citizens following African churches as a form of capital flight.They have forgotten billions of dollars the catholic church and many European churches took away from Africa and across the world.paying tithes is biblical and God commanded it.if it hasn't been a blessing to those who pay I think they would have stopped paying.
churches are helping in Nigeria, most private schools are owned by them and against government failure they have helped in sustaining good standards and also created jobs for millions.
Those who complain about pastors I will advise should leave them to God as judgment will start from the pulpit and the church.I think we need more of those churches.

Sorry what you write is not tru.

I can tell you from my country that most of the followers from this new african pentecost/charismatis churches are africans about 95% are africans who run to this churches.
A nigerian student has opend his own church in a student home in a two bed room, that is the church adress.
Your pastors what that you belief this.

I know why Oyedepo is not telling why he is not allowed to enter UK again it is about his witchhunting and he has problem with the money because his church is not working like the Uk non profit law is.

Adeboye was this year in main europa because every second year he is coming to visit one country and he was in poland normaly you see photos from this event but you didnot see photos from this poland event because only few people where there.

He told his stupid followers that he need the jet to spreed the gospel so to visit main europa every two years is very much I have to tell you and there are many countries so he is a big liar.

ayo4dworld:
The question are you a true born again Christian cannot be answered by yourself. For the truth to be spoken, others have to Identify your Character with Christ. The apostles were first called Christians in Antioch, not that they called themselves Christians but people identified a Christ like behaviour/character in them that made them conclude they were Christians. Anybody you can't identify Christ like attitude in Him/her is not born again. God bless you! Have a glorious week ahead!

Many nigerian christians are born again only for the public.

I know one person a woman her mother write that she has a inner beauty and an outside beauty and that she is a real christian and to all on facebook she write amen and all her writings about the bible,

But when you know her than you will see that she is a selfish, heartless, egositic woman and that she is not borne again that she is like many nigerian fake christian.

First she comes and than all the other people close to her.

She didnot know one word and that is love because she didnot know what it means love your neighbor like yourself.

Sorrys the number is not tru ast the mmoment about 165 Doctors and health workersfrom cuba are in West africa and about 296 will come later.

What you dinot know is that Cuba has a good education system and when the country is still poor the health system is free and Cuba has about 20 000 Medicine students at his universities and doctors from cuba work in many different countries and this countries where this doctors from cuba work send money to the goverment in cuba.

All this have to do with one man and that is Che Guevara who was a doctor and who fight for the rights of the people.

I read this in my language and perhaps when you didnot belief me this is the link to that newspaper but it is in my language but with google you can translate it.

http://www.sueddeutsche.de/politik/kuba-hilft-im-kampf-gegen-ebola-die-revolution-schickt-ihre-aerzte-1.2159096

flexing11:
why should churches be taxed they played a significant role i tell you prayers from churches alone,help nigeria as a country the most reason why nigeria is still one is because of the daily prayers from this great men of God.

Sorry that is not tru the people don't want a war.

Nigerians are to lazy to make something what would change the country, they are to lazy to go on the streets to fight for their rights.

Nigerians are good in praying and fasting because praying and fasting will make all better.

I just remember this 100 days fasting from adeboye did this change nigeria to a better country in the last month.

Nigerian love their God of Man and they woreshipp this God of man and that are the new Idols, the stars they can make what they want.

This are nigerian heros and Nigerian pentecost/charismatic christians are the greates IDOL worshippers in the world.

That shows the real face of this pastors.

I know since a long time that they buy properties outside of nigeria.

Adeboye bought land in America in Teaxs to build a University (America has so many UNiversities and many of them fight to get students and give money to agents that they can get students.)it was only to to bring money out of nigeria and he is the one who is very clever with this also Oyedepp, pastor chris has money on a bank acount at an tax free Island.

Churchbusiness in NIgeria is a big business where the pastors can invest the money from their poor followers to enrich themself.

What I didnot understand is in my country when you have a non profit organisation you have to show the goverment what you make with the money and you have to show this every year.

When the goverment only would ask the churches to show what they make with the money than church business will not be the same.
Do you know that the cost of one private jet is about 600 000 USD that you need every year.

Do you know how much charity you can make with 600 000 USD and that didnot include the money that a person must have to buy such a jet.

Sarassin:
@OP A very good post. The prosperity gospel in conjunction with Islamic militancy are the twin evils of the modern era, one kills the body, the other the soul. Prosperity gospel in Nigeria in particular is merely a reflection of the national consumptive insatiable greed, the creed of "something for nothing" show me a man who ever got rich by just prayers and I will show you a liar. Modern day pastorpreneurs, secure in their knowledge that they will never run out of willing contributors do not need a second invitation to ram home their messages.

You are very right because I know what you write is the bitter tuth in nigeria.

When there where only the old christian churches it would be much better and perhaps also no boko haram.

Tinyemeka:
O Lord! O Lord!!

Please let this be a photoshop.

this is not a photoshop this are real photos

That show the lifestile of the rich nigerian pastors the God of men.

ooshinibos:
You have a point but these churches are not all charities , even though they do performed charitable things in the societies , i think the source of their wealth is from the books they sell , for example , creflo dollar has a recording company that sold out platinum albums , he also has a airline company and clothes factor , remember he was in the medical field before and invested well , there is nothing wrong in them making money from books and other personal investment ...people are just angry because they are christians , if they were muslims , buddhist and druggist ,nobody will complain o

Sorry what you write is not tru, because read and search and he is one of this fake prosperity teachers what is a heresy gospel. And he didnot want that anybody know how rich he is. His book all teach about how you become rich but the only one who becomes rich is he alone.

Creflo Augustus Dollar, Jr.[1] is an American televangelist, pastor, and the founder of the non-denominational World Changers Church International based in Fulton County, Georgia,[2] Creflo Dollar Ministerial Association (formerly called International Covenant Ministries), Creflo Dollar Ministries, and Arrow Records.[3] Each of these enterprises is overseen by Dollar and his wife, Taffi Dollar.

In 1984, Dollar received a Bachelor of Science degree in education from West Georgia College in Carrollton, Georgia.[4] He was awarded an honorary Doctor of Divinity from Oral Roberts University in 1998.[5]

Dollar claims to have received the vision for World Changers Ministries Christian Center in 1986.[6] He held the church's first worship service in the cafeteria of Kathleen Mitchell Elementary School in College Park, Georgia, with only eight people in attendance and successfully receiving over $100 in contributions from those present. Over the years the ministry has grown rapidly and was renamed World Changers Church International (WCCI).

As of 2007, the congregation has grown to 30,000 members with $69 million in revenue (gross cash collections) for 2006.[7] The congregation moved from its original cafeteria location to a modest-sized chapel, adding a weekly radio broadcast and four services each Sunday. On December 24, 1995, WCCI moved into its present location, the 8,500-seat sanctuary known as the World Dome. At a cost of nearly $18 million, it is claimed that the World Dome was built without any bank financing.[8]

Dollar is also the publisher of CHANGE magazine, a quarterly international publication with nearly 100,000 subscribers and The Max, a bimonthly resource newsletter for ministers and ministry leaders.[9] Creflo Dollar also frequently speaks at conferences and is a best selling author.[10][11][12] Dollar and his wife, Taffi, have five children and live in Atlanta.[

Dollar is known for his controversial teachings regarding prosperity theology.[10] He has long been criticized for living a lavish lifestyle; he owns two Rolls-Royces, a private jet, and real estate such as a million dollar home in Atlanta, a $2.5m home in Demarest, N.J., and a $2.5m home in Manhattan,[10] which he sold for $3.75m in 2012.[19] Dollar has refused to disclose his salary and Creflo Dollar Ministries received a grade of "F" for financial transparency by the organization MinistryWatc

Bidam:
I am not ruling out the fact that some folks have abused and twisted bible passages to milk unsuspecting people. But the truth is prosperity is a doctrine and there is always a purpose for it in the body of Christ.
It is wrong for you to say God never want Christians to prosper materially. God's blessings is both physical and spiritual.

Sorry what you write is not tru that is what you hear from most of this charismatic/pentecost pastors

read this book and it will open your eyes

Health, Wealth & Happiness: Has the Prosperity Gospel Overshadowed the Gospel of Christ?
by David W. Jones, Russell Woodbridge

the prosperity gospel is a heresy gospel!

https://www.nairaland.com/1939285/prosperity-gospel-new-heresy