₦airaland Forum

ItsJonathan: But I have not buy her much, only z3 last two month, pay her house rent for two years and the occasional monthly allawee

voltron: Bloody deficient LIE.. so LAGOS state Government and all FASHOLA's rambling about technology and progress does not have a copy of the Building Approval or even a record of it.. BLOODY deficient lie from LASG..

cktheluckyman: which country are you in? i know this Nigerains churches are quite alot in the UK where they have a sizeable Nigerian populaton

cktheluckyman: you just nailed it there.Majority of european xtians belong to either of the catholic,orthodox or any of the mainstrea protestants churches.This one man business churches do not sell there.

cktheluckyman: U are dreaming!!!! They was about 400 million catholics in the world by 1950s today they are 1.2billion,by 1900 we had less than 1 million catholics in africa and less than 20000 in Nigeria ,today we have over 14o million in africa and about 30 million in Nigeria!!! The catholic church is the single largest church also in the US with over 70 million americans professing the catholic faith!!! The pentecostals in the US put together are less than 25 million.Does this statistics look like a diminishing church to you?

Pentecostalism is only strong in Nigeria and a few other african countries,it is virtually non-existent in europe with less than 2% of the european populaton.

Pentecostalism as a brand of christianity failed woefully in the US and Europe

Even it's success in Nigeria is mainly concentrated the SW

hensben: exactly, by cursing and binding, they are causing more harm to the society, christian=christ-like, He preached love, caring, forgiveness, giving,repentance, et al and when He was about to die on the cross He said 'its finish'. But today what do we have, prosperity preaching, tight preaching, church business, dressing provocatively to church, ladies wearing fitted trouser and tops to church, prophesying to politician that he will win this coming election when me n you know him go rig himself into power. e.g this happened in edo state, why? all in the name of seed and tight and mingling with politicians who are blood suckers. I keep saying this, pentecostals brought worldly life to church. Its good that churches are in all corner in nigeria but were is the effect, things are getting worse, crimes, baby factory, boko haram, assassin, looting, et al (business minded pastors everywhere) anybody that can speak in tongue, quote genesis to revelation automatically claiming pastor tag, what happened to making outreach to people, evangelize from houses to houses, nation to nation, must you own a church, God doesnt call this people to be pastor again, they now call HIM. church is now family business, when the husband dies the wife or first son takes over instead of one the elder/assistant pastor...okay.

evegran: RIP to the dead, God will receive them if they were truly looking for him. I've always known there was something fishy about this man. Imagine him saying "God tests and allows his people go through hard times"? Absurd! He obviously doesn't know God then, hoping he's even referring to the creator of heaven and earth. I can't stand his insensitivity and then there's his extremely LAME explanations for the collapse of the building. Does he actually think -all Nigerians have low IQ s? Another annoying thing is some daft beings not realizing his faults but making excuses for him cause he's a pastor or prophet of a big church. B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T! Most of this so called pastor/prophet defenders will go to hell, not cause of their sins-but cause they're worshiping their pastors and not God.

kel4soft: I have never insulted a man of God and I wont do that even now.

BananaBender: Oh, he's self-centered? Was it his fault that the building collapsed?? Was it his fault that the contractors were venal??

Who do think is financing the hospital bills of those that were injured?? Who told you that the church has no plans for the families of the deceased??

If you're ignorant about what happened after the collapse, ask questions or shut the hell up!

The contractors haven't gotten a single blame for their mistake and subpar work but this pastor has had to endure the biting sanctimonious tongues of Nigerians.

I wonder if people type comments on NL, just to get likes from their fellow fvcktards. Do y'all ever think things through??

iamord: “Even if another building collapses to kill
one billion people, I will still follow Christ
through Prophet TB Joshua. My faith is
unshakable. God bless the man of God and
all those who follow him,”

??7
Sigh!
They way people think!

BananaBender: You are already stup1d, you don't need TB Joshua to look stup1d.

Are you that ignorant?? How many pastors do you know oversee the church's money?? Do you think he was the one that chose those contractors or the one that pays them?? Ogbeni, wake yourself up.

In big churches like these, there is always a group of people that really run things. The pastor himself gets paid just like any worker.

otijah: I think the best they can do themselve is to seek advice and strategies from other powerful nations e.g Nigeria

PastorKun: It's a shame that the church is still repeating this lie about a so called strange aircraft instead of admitting guilt as the building collapsed as a result of the ongoing construction work on the building. Anyone conversant with ikotun egbe were thr church is located would know that all airplanes approaching the airport in Ikeja to land fly low through that route as they are approaching the runway to land and on any given day at least 50 aircraft would approach the airport for landing through that route.

For a church to come out and lie in public is really shameful and claiming that they are the victims whilst indeed they caused several people to loose their lives through their greed and carelessness is really pathetic.

In a civilised country the church premises would have been closed down and the church officials responsible for the construction work along with their engineers would have been arrested and prosecuted. But this is Nigeria and elections are coming. Our politicians don't want to offend any popular religious leader.

MissMeiya: I had no idea about Mauritius. Intriguing. What are they doing right?

Since independence in 1968, Mauritius has developed from a low-income, agriculture-based economy to a middle-income diversified economy. The economy is based on tourism, textiles, sugar, and financial services. In recent years, information and communication technology, seafood, hospitality and property development, healthcare, renewable energy, and education and training have emerged as important sectors, attracting substantial investment from both local and foreign investors.[56] Mauritius has no exploitable natural resources and therefore depends on imported petroleum products to meet most of its energy requirements. Local and renewable energy sources are biomass, hydro, solar and wind energy.[57][58] Mauritius has one of the largest Exclusive Economic Zones in the world, in 2012 the government announced its intention to develop the Ocean Economy.[59]

Mauritius is ranked high in terms of competitiveness, investment climate, governance and freest economy, the Gross Domestic Product (PPP) estimate was at $22.025 billion and GDP (PPP) per capita income over $16,820 in 2014, one of the highest in Africa.[2][24][29][60][61] Mauritius has an upper middle income economy, according to the World Bank in 2011.[62] For the fifth consecutive year, the World Bank's 2013 Ease of Doing Business report ranks Mauritius first among African economies and 19th worldwide out of 183 economies in terms of ease of doing business.[61] Mauritius has built its success on a free market economy, according to the 2013 Index of Economic Freedom Mauritius is ranked as having the 8th most free economy in the world, and the highest score in investment freedom.[63] The report's ranking of 183 countries is based on measures of economic openness, regulatory efficiency, rule of law, and competitiveness.


This tiny island is showing up the giant of Africa with zero natural resources.

onitshaigbo: All you haters in this thread, do you value your life? Doubting The Prophet is doubting God. Insulting The Prophet is insulting God! God will surely punish you!

Only the braindead does not see that evil forces, the agents of the Devil are behind this tragedy. SCOAN will surely over this! The faithful should increase your contributions to The Prophet as this is a test from God!

Most victims from SA

Mnguni said it was difficult to identify the remains of South African victims because a doctor they had sent to the mortuary was turned away.

It is believed that most of the people in the guesthouse when it collapsed were South Africans. According to the church, about 500 South Africans visit every week.

The Star reported that five different South African church tour groups, comprising about 300 people, were staying in the guesthouse when it collapsed.

About 20 people are in hospital and 248 are hospitalised, Mnguni said.

Presidency spokesperson Mac Maharaj said the number of South Africans killed was based on information received from friends and family of the victims.

Our team in #Nigeria not getting the cooperation they need. Verification very difficult. As Maharaj said "take figure of 67 with caution".

henchamb: with due respect, you shouldnt say what you dnt know, the church has released many statements both on fbk, tb joshua and the management.

kpez: And which con3 are you from?

kendo101: You think SA is like Nigeria that does care about their citizens. What's the use of embassies? When ppl arrive other countries, their ppl there take record and monitor their stay in the foreign country. But as for Nigerian Government, they don't give a dam*. They don't even know the number of Nigerian abroad.

Aranaa: I dunno if it's just me but when I watched the video of the collapse. The way it went down was similar to the way 9/11 collapsed.

Anyways he did make a response:

NIGERIAN preacher and televangelist TB Joshua on Sunday linked a deadly building collapse at his Lagos megachurch to a suspicious aircraft but rescue workers ruled out the theory of foul play.

Mr Joshua, who is dubbed "The Prophet" by his followers because of his purported predictions and healing powers, showed footage of the moments leading up to the collapse on his emmanuel.tv network.

Nigeria’s National Emergency Management Agency said 42 people were killed in Friday’s incident, and 130 had escaped or were pulled out alive from the building rubble.

In the security camera footage, apparently from opposite the vast church compound, what is described as an aircraft is seen over the building four times at 12.30pm South African time, 12.43pm, 12.45pm and 12.54pm.

The uncompleted building, five floors of which are visible above a high wall, is then seen to collapse at 2:44pm, throwing up huge clouds of dust into the air.

"After the incident, the strange aircraft does not return," a commentary accompanying the images adds.

There was no independent verification of the authenticity of the footage but Mr Joshua has said he would make it available to Nigeria’s security agencies.

His Synagogue Church of All Nations is located in Ikotun, near Lagos international airport.

Mr Joshua’s theory about the low-flying plane featured in a number of Nigerian newspapers on Sunday. But the emergency management agency’s southwest co-ordinator Ibrahim Farinloye rejected claims of sabotage and said extra floors were being added to the building without changing the foundations.

"If it were an act of terrorism or sabotage, it would have gone into rubble," he said.

AFP

cirmuell: I dey tell you.

NEMA said 47 or something, as at yesterday.

Funfreak: I dont believe this............................

Even the total casualties here for naija is still 49.....

Sorry for them though

chelseabmw: That is the problem... I don't understand why he will be so silent... nothing coming out from the church yet

With all due respect this is Nonsense