₦airaland Forum

OMANBALA1:
Nigeria can possibly pass as the worst country on earth because it is NOT a nation. There is a little thing called NATIONAL IDENTITY and you don't have that. There is NO NATIONAL PRIDE which make everybody steal ,lie,cheat ,defecate,burn people alive,migrating around the world and pushing drugs and defrauding innocent people.

You vote along tribal lines and your emotional sentiments that's why Jonathan became a President a d now a clueless and empty head called Buhari who your hospital can't treat...lol
You have tribalistic eidiots like Fashola in power and you expect change...Keep deceiving your selves.


There must be BLOODSHED before change can come to Nigeria. All these Saraki,Tinubu,Fashola Andy Ubah and co must be beheaded!

Ipob extremist alert.

You guys really have to take it easy before you become the new boko haram sect in Nigeria.

Mind you i support Ipob to a good extent, but the extremism many of your likes tag along the struggle is sickening.

LoL..

All parts of Nigeria have their own unique problems, just that at the end of the day, the core-north remains worse off as they still have the highest poverty and illiteracy rates.
There is really no way a predominantly illiterate people can maximize their potentials no matter what efforts.

GoodMuyis:
1=> Nairaland should give you a clue that Nigerian will give no sympathy for IPOB, WHY? because of insult both Kanu and Ipod had met on whole Nigeria as a whole, agitation for biafra is valid but insulting other tribe is not the way to get it, secession in not gotten by takling ordinary people, but politicians.

2=> since election did not hold, Constitutionally, a governor cannot hold office beyond 4 years, while new election is yet to hold and the governor is out of office, an administrator must take over the state

I don't think Nnamdi kanu or any other Ipob spokespersons are still insulting anyone. They seem to have gone past that level. And i also think the Niger delta militants (who are ever ready to back up words with action) are also in support of Ipob now.

I think the election will be postponed and a dialogue/compromise would be reached. I am not sure it will get to the extent of an administrator.

Chai, na wa oo. Fear don dey catch me for Anambra people o. And i was already beginning to support Kanu.

Your write-up actually makes sense and could be the likely scenario. But i think i would encourage Ipobs/Igbos not to deter. Nothing good comes easy!

Believe me, all other Nigerians are watching and most of us are already tired of the situation of things in Nigeria just like the Igbos are (especially we the middlebelt minorities and Niger delta minorities)....Ipob may actually be the ones to kickstart the revolution we need in Nigeria. They are and will eventually gain the sympathy, full support and bigtime respect of other Nigerians who will also join in their struggle.

Also, i think you are too late to try dividing Anambra from other Igbos or Ipob. It just would not work.
I understand that you may be a true Anambra man who is just concerned for the well being of your state, but sorry, you just have to deal with it.

Besides, i'm still trying to figure out how boycotting an election peacefully will lead to full scale state of emergency

Nonsense! 3 major languages my foot.
More like 3 major ethnic groups that have spoilt Nigeria.

Serious

Okay

Islam and Islamic fanatism is for the poor and wretched. Simple.

Kenyanstar:
KENYA
SAMBURU REGALIA

Are the Samburu peeps related to the Masais? The attiires look similar

mtis:
Comment vas-tu monsieur Nowe.how is life in naija ?

Je vais bien. La vie en Naija est plus bon de la vie en Kenya.

mtis:
Yap.. but Serious where is Nowe..

Metissa, what do you want avec moi?

PointZerom:
Nice thinking.

It is unfortunate the way Hausas caged Nigeria using their military might even to the point of moving the capital to their region, with the same military might they created more states and LGAs in their region for their selfish interest.

FCT Abuja is in the north-central.
Since when has the NC become Hausa region?

Osaze007:
Yes 3 out of the 5 are ilorin (ilorin west east and south)
2 are Pategi and Kaima which re non Yoruba so what is your point

Does emir command respect in ifelodun and offa no so what's your point again ?

No, you are wrong! Patigi & Kaiama are in Kwara north and they have their own Emirs!

I am talking of Kwara central and the other 2 local govts here are Moro & Asa LGAs together with the 3 Ilorin LGAs which make up the entire Ilorin emirates.

You really do not know much do you? Please how old are you? Let me not be wasting my time with a teenager waiting to write Jamb.

Osaze007:
What about emir of Dengi ?
Making it 3


And only one in Kwara
Or do you know any other emir in Kwara
I served in Kwara so I'm well vested in Kwara history
Why do upset they don't want to be part of north central ?
Kwara is still better than jos x10
Kwara is worth $6bn and a connecting state
Pleateua is worth $2bn

I'm certain if they join Yorubas in SW they wol explode economically

Dengi is the headquarters of Kanam LGA and the Emir is the same as the PANKWAL BOGHOM i am talking about. Emir of Wase is the only fulani king in Plateau.

How is Kwara better than Plateau? Both states were created the same time, but Jos is more developed, beautiful and better than Ilorin, why?

Where do you get those economic figures from? Your anus? The last GDP estimation of Plateau state around 2010 places it ahead of Kwara with $5 billion

Osaze007:
You just cornered yourself
You first claimed no emir
Now you actually have two emirs
Emir of ilorin is just one town
And the other 29 towns are headed by oba
And he's only relevant cause of Saraki
Yorubas in Kwara don't align to emir they all follow their obas

Your post reeks of jealousy and bitterness

I never said no Emir in Plateau state. I said no Emir in Jos.

The Emir of Ilorin is in charge of the 5 local govt areas that make up Kwara central senatorial district and he is also the permanent president of Kwara state traditional council.

Please can you tell me the influence of the Emirs in Plateau? I am waiting!

Osaze007:
Guy there's only one emir in Kwara
But two in Plateau that should concern you more


Go and drink some ogogoro and carry wheel barrow for begging
Almajiri useless children of baboons
Emir of Karma
Emir of Wase

The Emir of Kanam is officially adressed as the PANKWAL BOGGHOM in Plateau state! He is a 100% Boghom man and not a fulani descendant and that title Emir/Emirate is not used by Plateau state govt. They are adressed as Boghom chiefdom/Pankwal Boghom.

See links below to prove

Osaze007:
Mr man why are you lieing

Half of jos people are beggers and their is an emir in your state why you distorting facts

Yorubas are the most sophisticated group in Nigeria and should Nigeria split they will be the most successful nation

Jos won't even have navy power

Emir of Wase to be precise

Are you not members of Arewa again ?

Do you see Yorubas begging in Nigeria ?
The most you will see Yorubas outside west is working in banks and they send their money home to build houses

You seem like a hater
Your people are not relevant in the scheme ot things of Nigeria
No one even knows about your existence

Hahaha, Emir of Wase is only in charge of one town among the numerous towns and local govts in Plateau state. He is just one among the numerous 1st class chiefs in the state and he even has one of the smallest territory.

The head of Plateau state traditional council is usually rotated between the Gbon gwom Jos, Long goemai Shendam, Ngolong Ngas, Ponzhi Tarok e.t.c

Wase emirate and people are treated as outcasts in Plateau state, go and ask them.
Now, can you compare that to the Emir of Ilorin? The permanent head of Kwara state traditional council? Anybody visiting Kwara state must first pay homage to the Emir and no one else. He is by far the most powerful king in Kwara state.

Markfemi2 small boy.

When the leadership of Kwara state traditional council is discussing on caliphate issues. Oro, Ifa & Egugun worshippers like you are not allowed any close
You just have to limit such barbaric cultures to your brown roof region where human rituals is official.

This is the celebrated culture of the head of millions of Yorubas of Kwara state (Ilorin emirate council).
You can drink rat poison on the issue if it pains you so much.

Markfemi2:
Ebola was caught and stopped
In Yoruba land data isn't privileged or used as insult it's very cheap and everywhere
I don't even know how you know how to use a phone as you should be on the streets begging for money or being bleeped by an emir
Go and drink some goskolo
Bloody uneducated idiot
Tribes are talking you too want to Talk
Bambi Allah dirty bastard
Okun and Kwara are Yoruba property

Ode. We have no emir in Jos. Tell your Ilorin guys, cos they are the ones most likely to be drilled from behind by an Emir!

Drinking is by choice and it is very very legal.

But your own people, Eyin Omo wobe. Igbo smoking has finished your youths and half of yoruba youths are agberos, Owomidas, Omoniles and Omo wobe.


Please, it's not my fault that millions of yorubas are being ruled by the Sokoto caliphate.
Let's say Hello to the Emir of Ilorin (the permanent President and Royal father of Kwara state traditional council). These are the people in charge of Kwara cultural affairs.

Markfemi2:
Brown roof Yoruba land will Buy your entire region as a colony

'Awa Lagos people'. All of you have abandoned your rusty hometowns to ruins and complete dillapidation to claim 'Awa Lagos'. What a shame!

The wealth you are bragging of yoruba land has majority of it in Lagos which extended into Ogun and is dominated by Igbos and other Nigerians

You can imagine Ibadan a city of over 3 million people and heart of yoruba land yet over 90% of the city looks like this!
While the few manageable places are heavily decorated with refuse dumps along the roadside.

Markfemi2:
Shut your mouth they are jos indigenes
In addition to cultist clash and generation of beggers
Lassa fever also destroying jos

Lool what a time to be a jos man
You won't face this issue of polio and lassa
Na Yoruba matter you carry for head

I should have known that you are nothing but a small boy who has the priviledge of data subscription through his mother.
Lassa fever that was killing people everywhere and even worse in parts of the South than North. Did Ebola not start spreading from Lagos? Meningitis was in Lagos but never entered Plateau state.

Dirty stinking filthy pigs who keep shitt under their beds for many days. The dirtiest tribe in Africa.

And i repeat, i have no business with brown roof region. Okun and Kogi state is part of the North-central my zone and that is why i am here.

johnserek:
Shut your dirty cowardice mouth up
Other tribes are talking your talking
Of all the tribes in central its known jos is the weakest tribe
Fulani has destroyed your economy and they're nothing you can do about it
They rape your women
Send Boko haram to destroy your people
Your only envious of Yorubas as jos as lost its glory
I'm from kwbba and I visited jos
It's a conquered and destroyed state
Yorubas will go with Yoruba Kwara and Kogi whether sultan likes it or not
We are one big Yoruba nation

What compound foolishness.

Jos has been conquered yet we don't pay homage and respects to the Sokoto caliphate unlike the entire Kwara state which has a fulani descendant of Sokoto caliphate as the permanent official head of Kwara state traditional council.

If Jos has been completely destroyed, why are there still thousands of yorubas there? Many who their grandparents were there since pre- independence and have not gone back to their brown roof towns with gutters, pit latrines and shitt everywhere?

Markfemi2:
At least that's better than. The BABIN ALLAH BEGGING MUSICIANS were full your region

See how pathetic your region is
Do you see Yoruba beggers or shoe shiners or leprosy infested Yorubas ?

Are you a naturally occuring fool or what? How many North-central indigenes have you seen begging or shinning shoes? There are hausa beggars in our region just as them boku for Lagos! Abi nor be so?

That Jos community was a Hausa community just like the Hausa communities in Lagos like Idi Araba, Sango, Mile 12 et al

Markfemi2:
What ijaw militant ? Same chased away !
All you have stated here is internal clash which happens everywhere

Go and face the triple combo of Fulani Boko haram and this new group terrorising your state
Carry your central matter on your head and exclude Yorubas out if it who wants to be associated with region that produces shoe shiners and polio suffering Citizens
Brown roof Yoruba land will Buy your entire region as a colony

The same fulanis that are raping yoruba women to death on their soil?
And who chased the militants away? Yorubas? Thank your northern masters in control of the armed forces for that.
So, Egun- yoruba n Hausa- yoruba clashes r now internal clashes right?

And stop generalizing nonsense! Cult rival groups do not clash among my people and terrorize resident ok?
We do not also use ourselves for ritual killings. Happenes only in yoruba land.

Markfemi2:
Are you done ranting ?
We know lokoja is a golden city in northern standards
Idiotic Buffon
Come and face Yorubas when time comes

U are no different from the thousands of yoruba touts, agberos, omoniles & owomidas are you?

Lokoja is a golden city compared with all the brown-roof rusty and dillapidated cities in the core SW.

9jakool:
And you should know very well, that Yorubas in the NC don't count as part of the middle belt.

Saying Ilorin emirate is traditionally governed under Sokoto caliphate is different from saying Ilorin "belong" to the North. Using the word "belong" in this context carries a different connotation all together. It has a hateful undertone to it and you know it. Things like that make you sound like an antagonist.

Yes, you might have more legal rights as a Nigerian, but socially speaking that Benin Yoruba's opinion is more respected/ socially valid. And as for the bolded, all Kogites have more rights on the issue than you as a Plateau man, you can't play the NC attache.

And who said yorubas in the NC don't count as middlebelt?. I belong to various middlebelt fora and there are NC yorubas there. Some are even admins/leaders. Don't conclude what you are not sure of. They partake in Arewa associations, let alone middlebelt.

Where did i ever argue Kogites having more rights on this issue than me? I am only against Southerners/South-westerners having more rights than me.

Thank God you said socially speaking. Now, is this a pan socio-cultural yoruba thread?

Markfemi2:
Is this true?
Boko haram
Fulani
Religious crisis
Or na Yoruba matter you carry for head

I am carrying Kogi state/North-central matter on my head and not brown roof republic issues.

Now, the same fulanis also attack in yoruba land or don't they?
Add that with Ijaw militancy
Badoo terrorism
Aiye-Eiye cult clashes
Egun- yoruba clashes
Ritual killings
Hausa clashes e.t c and what do we have?

johnserek:
Who is the bloody weak bastard from jos abusing okun Yorubas
See this bastard tribe that run to Kogi for protection when onslaught begins on them

Your calling Yoruba town brown roofs
At least they have roofs
More than half of jos is gone already with half of the population living as IDP in their own state
Yoruba is going with its part of lokoja and there's nothing any weak jos man can do about it

Pls little vermin, crawl back to the whole you are coming from!
Just listen to your foolish self. When last did Boko haram attack Jos or a crisis rocked the city? Answer the question imbeccile. And can you back your words with hard facts that Jos people are living as IDPs in their state? Prove it with links or forever be condemned to foolishness!

I am fully ready to show you fresh links of how many yoruba lives have been lost to badoo terrorism and ijaw militancy.
Ijaws a minority group have been terrorising yorubas and you guys couldn't do shitt if not for the FG intervention. Many yoruba coastal communities have been entirely occupied by Ijaws, deal with that.
Just last year here, thousands of yorubas were rendered homeless by Eguns in the clash between yorubas & Eguns.
Your land has become the ritualist capital of Africa. Not a day passes by without human parts & skulls and even factories like Soka forest being discovered in yoruba land. Nonsense! There are more things consuming yoruba lives on daily basis and you are mentioning Jos crisis which took place last almost 7 years ago in 2010.

Markfemi2:
No one gives a Bleep about Jos
It can't be part of Odua
Lokoja wont also go with jos or plateau
If you need help from southern tribes and your just disguising under hate speak up

No one gives a hoot

Why are you masturbating all over my mentions? Gosh! People are having intellectual debates and you are here gallivanting like a biitch on heat.

Tell your yoruba brothers here who were dreaming of Lokoja in the SouthWest.

9jakool:
Well, the "stupid" larger entity I'm talking about is the North you keep shouting about of course. Even though you might have grudges against the Hausas, it hasn't stopped you from associating with the North umbrella which is largely associated with Hausa in order to feel more recognized. The North is a part of your identity and of course you won't want a threat to that entity otherwise you won't have any problems with a proposed Okun state merging with the West.

You can say the North-central (aka middlebelt) and other northern minority areas is part of my identity and that is why i defend her territorial integrity, but not the entire north.
What the fvck do you think i would give if Sokoto & Zamfara states are having territorial issues?
Or Hausa-fulanis & yorubas clash? Do you think i would take any sides?

Oh but I do like bitter truths, because they help you face the cold reality. At the same time, you have to give credits where its due and provide constructive feedback and solutions. In this thread however, you come off as a pure antagonist.

Liar, liar, liar. ''Ilorin & Lokoja are traditionally under the rulership of the Sokoto caliphate (Ilorin especially)''.

Now, how in the name of Abel is this a wrong statement and not a reality of facts? Listen to yourself. Most of what i have been saying here are nothing but the truth, only that i might be magnifying certain aspects which does not sit well with your self delusions and then am labelled an antagonist.

And that is where you are dreadfully wrong. Where did I mentioned that I'm a South-westerner or even claimed my regional affiliation.

Do you think you are playing mind games with a toddler here? Just same way you claim to have noticed me as a yoruba antagonist, so have i noticed you as a yoruba extremist and supremacist.

In fact a Yoruba man from Benin Republic has more rights on this issue than a man from Plateau state. You know what, because at least that Yoruba shares the same ethnicity and culture with those in Kogi.

And this is where you are dead wrong! The colonial masters did not divide Africans according to tribal lines did they? So, when it comes to international issues in Africa, you just have to keep your tribe to your pocket

I have more legal national rights in any part of yoruba land in Nigeria as a Nigerian citizen than a Benin republic yoruba who is just a stone-throw across the Seme border. Bro, you of all people should be smarter than this now. Haba.

And as for Nigeria. Nigeria is not adminstrated by tribal authorities or tribal regions. The territorial integrity of our federating units were not explicitly formed along tribal lines. Is there anything like Yoruba land in the Nigerian constitution?
Hence when it comes to issues affecting the official territorial structure of a federating unit like Kogi state. Other non-yoruba Kogi indigenes have more rights than a South-westerner. Also, the northern political region or North-central geo-political zone is also far more legal that an immaginary cultural yoruba line. Lol

Any yoruba sub-group can officially/culturally pull out of yoruba identity today and heavens will not fall, just as many SS igbo speaking tribes are denouncing Igbo identity and their rights must be respected. Now, can any group just come out and denounce their state, geo-political zone or region without going through legal and consitutional rites??

9jakool:
Who do you think I am? Yes, I have been to Ilorin before; I personally know that city well. I have probably been to Ilorin more than you have, so don't even start with me. I have many relatives that are from Ilorin. I have visited many of the iconic place in Ilorin including the oja oba, the Secretariat building, and the university. I've passed through the old mosque and the new central mosque. I've met common people in the town especially in the markets, and they act just as Yorubas in the SW. There is no major difference, except maybe for their dialect. Yoruba traders from the SW flock to Ilorin markets for trade and vice versa.

I have ridden Ilorin's iconic yellow and green taxis countless of times. One of the memorable moment in one was when one of the passenger asked our driver where his facial marks comes from and he was surprised when he said he was Nupe, because he thought he was Yoruba from the way he acted and spoke. Any Yoruba from the SW will feel comfortable in Ilorin.

If not for religious crisis that polarized some northern cities, those days you might not be able to tell the difference between Hausa-fulanis and northern minorities in the cities.

Every Plateau person will feel at home outside his hometown and in places like Southern Kaduna, Nasarawa, Taraba e.t.c to a large extent and someone like you may not be able to tell us apart, but that still does not mean that our school of thoughts are the same.

My point is that, even though other yorubas will feel at home in Ilorin doesn't make the school of thought and cultures of Ilorin/other yorubas the same.

For instance, as soon as you go into the subject of religion with Ilorin indigenes, story go change. The way they react towards religion and culture is very much quite different from most other South-west yorubas. Traditional religions, cultures, festivals, e.t.c is extinct in Ilorin and please try to question an Ilorin indigene of these things and get the shock of your life by their response.
Remember that almost 20 churches were burnt down and christians attacked in Ilorin during the Sharia law sweep in 1999/2000 when an Imam urged Ilorin muslim to burn down every church in the central city. Now, this is something that can never or hardly happen in the South-west no matter how predominantly muslim that town is. And these are my points!

Also, funny enough, you had to narrow it to descendants of the royal lineages abi, because you know that the 99% of the Yorubas in Ilorin have no issues being Yoruba. Those Fulani descendants that populate the city are a very small minority and if according to you, they don't flaunt their Yorubaness, then maybe its because they are half-baked people with foreign blood. They are simply not Yoruba, so the aren't obligated to display their Yoruba colors. Saraki like the emir are half baked with diluted Yoruba heritage, the authentic overwhelming majority of the Yorubas in Ilorin have no problem identifying as Yoruba. There are prominent Yoruba people from many works of life in Ilorin from the musicians to the lawyers to the religious clerics. In Ilorin that I know, the balogun, baale, and iyalode titles in the traditional Yoruba political system are present and well alive.

All this Muslim indigines blah blah blah that's regurgitated over and over on Nairaland about Ilorin is portraying an inaccurate image of the city because most of the people who say it have little or no personal connections to Ilorin.

Who is talking about Southerner matters. I mentioned Yoruba matters specifically, not Southerner matters. This thread is about a Yoruba matter, not a Southerner matter. You take sides when it fits your objectives. You are always an antagonist on Yoruba matter and that remains the fact.

I am judging you based on the past interaction I've had with you, so I don't need to check your past threads. I can definitely say you are a bonafide Yoruba antagonist solely based on the past encounters I've had with you.

Now, what do you think the average Northern minority would gain from antagonizing yoruba? Can u tell me? Check my most recent topic against the Core-north (hausa-fulanis) where i antagonized them and was full ready from them.
I have antagonized Hausas and Igbos on nairaland more, you just have happened to bump into me when am facing yorubas. Well, perhaps you will find me in another thread adoring yorubas as i have done before. If you don't believe that, then it's your problem and not mine.
At least you could see me against an Igbo guy who was comparing Anioma with Okun land. That guy just happened to be a very civil person, if it was the usual Ipob style of approach, by now, you and i wouldn't have been here debating cos you might think i am a yoruba man the length at which i will go in protecting yoruba interests here as long as it's the truth.