₦airaland Forum

Jayceon:
they forget we are the same country that produced the caliber of Yvonne Chaka,Hugh Masekela,Brenda Fasie,the great Lucky Dube,Mariam makeba,etc..I can on and on,and we have the coolest national anthem in the world

Speaking of Johnny Clegg...I love that "Great Heart" song

SA artists have been killing Europian stages and collecting Gramys for eons and now all of a sudden someone thinks we need naija artists Lol

ZarZar

Yes. You guys were like the best in Africa in decades past, but you see you later lost it to Congo's Makosa (soukous) music from the mid 90's to mid 2000's. Congo ruled Africa's music for about a decade and now Nigeria has taken over in contemporary times.
Times and seasons change. Afterall Greece was once the world power but today where are they?

Our multi billion entertainment industry by next year is estimated to be worth about $10 billion. I don't think the whole of other African countries put together can beat that.

Jayceon:
I get that you are just being patriotic all that but c'mon dude,we need to draw a line sometimes.That song Maphorisa did with Wizkid was always going to be a hit with or without Wiz..not to mention his part in the song is so insignificant...wait a minute,did you just say that song was the biggest in the country last year? Lol the song did not receive as much air play as other hit songs that were released in 2016

what many other songs are you talking about?
SA don't work with musicians from those countries you mentioned because those artists don't ask SA artists for features like naija artists do when they are here shooting videos here,you see where I'm going with this?? Naija artist are making themselves available for SA artists,we don't call them from naija

Airplay or not, the song had more nominations than any other South African music in the MAMA awards.
How many of DJ maphorisa's music have won awards in MAMA before he featured Wizkid?
So, are Naija artistes the only ones shooting vids in SA?
Our artistes shoot vids around the world not just SA, so that is a very absurd excuse.

I am really surprised at these.
So, the Jungle boy or Tarzan stories are not completely fictional afterall.

Jayceon:
you are failing to see the angle here....SA artists that feature Naija artists in their music want to penetrate your market through those artists,they do it because they have a motive and that's that

To be honest with you I don't know of a single South African artist that had collaborated with a Naija artist and the song being the biggest hit in the country

Soweto baby btw Dj Maphorisa and Wizkid, received 3 nominations and won at last years MAMA awards (biggest music award in Africa). Show me any SA song or artiste which received as much nominations from last years award.
That is just one. Many others.
Why don't your artistes go and feature Kenyan or other East African artistes? What abt Zimbabwean, Zambian, Malawian artistes who are your neighbours? Are u saying no market in these areas?

Jayceon:
your artists are paying American artists a lot of money to have them in their songs but your artists will never be half as good as...

Justin Skye (an american singer) featured Wizkid in her song last year. Drake has also featured Wizkid in his song last year. Many more american artistes are planning to feature Wizkid this year and Davido too.

Nigerian artistes started featuring American artistes since 2011. We have passed that level by now. Do you think American artistes will just agree to feature in any idiot's music? Is it my fault that other countries' artistes are not affluent enough to afford american artistes?

nyangau123:
the funny thing is kenya population is approximately 50 million, Nigeria aprox 200 million
why would kenya need more cities? when Lagos population is almost half of the entire kenyan population
kenya has 4 cities which is more than enough for a country with such a population

People often mistake the entire Lagos state to be one city which is quite wrong. The 21 million people cover the whole Lagos state and not Lagos city alone.

Lagos state is made up of Lagos city, Ikeja city (capital city of Lagos state), Lekki city, Ikorodu city and other towns. It is just that all these places seem to have merged in a way to create a grand urban conurbation.
So you can see that Lagos state alone can challenge Kenya in a lot of aspects as Lagos state alone has 4 cities.

If Kenya has only 4 cities with some few smaller towns in a country of 50 million people, this means at least 75% of Kenyans live in rural areas. Kenya is predominantly rural afterall.

Jayceon:
South Africans love identifying with what

Why are your few artistes featuring many of our artistes into their songs? How many Nigerian artistes have featured SA artistes?

PissedYagami:
Kenya two cities? Kenya has 3 incorporated cities. The other cities are not incorporated. And we have some huge towns, 400k people and still called town, some quite a handful over 200K people. The definition of the term city differs from country to country mate. Some of your cities are have less than 100k people. Plus your population is 4 times ours man, you have more cities

It is not just about population alone. It is just that Nigerians are far more urban dwellers and city developers than Kenyans, many who prefer to live in their slums and villages drinking animal blood.
When i said Nigeria has about 50 cities, i never included towns below 500k. I only counted 500k and above and still i arrived at about 50 cities.
There are about 15 cities in Nigeria with over 1 million people, while the remaining 35 cities are about 500k-1million .
Any settlement below 500k people i doubt is fit to be called a city but a town instead. Even the 35 Nigerian cities between 500k-1m are mostly fit to be called cities because majority of them are administrative capital cities of state govts.

If our population is 4 times yours, then i think to be on an equal scale we should have 4 times the number of your cities, but we have instead more than 10 times the numb of your cities.

TayserMahiri:
My brother/ sister/ whatever, a smart (smarter than you) Nigerian said this a while ago "A lot of my nigerian brothers probably dont get the purpose for this thread and if they do, they're doing a poor job comprehending"

That is how you failed your exams in school, by not understanding the question and then going ahead to respond. Then you end up giving very irrelevant responses. You can google the list of counties and their cities. The counties are only 4 and a half years old, that's how long they've had to build their capitals. You can start a new thread on State/ County capitals and cities and we will compare them. And you sound very childish/ not quite smart, I hope you are of the right age to be here.

Just to educate you a bit on how an argument goes. A claim is made, e.g kenya is better than nigeria. Those who agree provide evidence for why kenya is better, and those who don't provide evidence that kenya is either equal, or nigeria is better. I expected you to provide evidence for why nigeria is better but how sad! All you did was say a lot of nothing, obviously because the premise of the thread was right. What you want now is to see the kenyan cities because you think the naija high population will go for you with population-wise bigger cities. What a baby. Can you provide evidence for Nigeria? Kenya is for kenyans to support.

So, why did it take you so long to admit that your counties are just 4 years old? What a shame! After dodging the question for so long. I think you are very immature, and you have been comparing them with Nigerian states which have started since 1967.

This is why Kenya just has only 2 cities while Nigeria has about 50 cities which are all working hard to build themselves (develop) at the same pace.

Tomorrow now, as Nigeria continues to develop and we now have many dozens of economically viable cities and financial centres and our GDP grows to trillions of dollars, you Kenyattas will begin to cry foul that it is fraudulent. You guys are impossible loosers seriously.

iblawi:
So you expect me to give you that statistics but can't tell me how many of your banks have up to 100 branches in kenya.

Most of them have about 33 branches and 90 ATMs in the whole Kenya. The highest have just above 100 branches but you compare your banks with banks that have over 750 branches.

WAKA, God punish you for the unnecessary stress you made me go through.

The Waka part got me rotf. . Waka trutru fit the guy.

The Kenyans have succesfully destroyed the power of their banking industries with their so called Mpesa.
Now, that we have the biggest and most powerful banking industry on the continent with so much wealth and worth, they are hating on us. These people really have serious issues.

Our banking industry has created employment for hundreds of thousand Nigerians with so much wealth to the extent that we have produced 2 African billionaires through the industry. I wonder how much their Mpesa has added to their economy. Tomorrow they will claim our GDP is false.

TayserMahiri:
No disrespect for your source but it wouldn't hold water anywhere. Ericsson is a private company, who knows what they were up to?
Nonetheless, 53 % is still paltry for the giant. Kenya was at 75 % when you guys were at 44 %. And you saw the trend. If you guys were at 53 % last year, we must have been at 85 % then. And then have increased since last year.

http://www.theeastafrican.co.ke/business/Kenya-tops-list-of-banked-population/2560-2697138-jh9o4iz/index.html

Kenya just has a high banked population because of the introduction of the mobile money Mpesa. This gave you guys an advantage only to brag with mouths of a high percentage and nothing more. This has destroyed the power of your banking institutions, no wonder your banking sector is absolute trash and nothing to reckon with on the continent.

Nigerians on the other hand who do not have or even want to have the so called mobile money Mpesa. We are ok with our advanced and powerful banking sector which is worth so much and has created so much for our citizens as a large continent dominating industry.

The same industry also offers us mobile banking and more with many options to choose from unlike in Kenya where Mpesa is all they have and they have no choice but to follow whatever Mpesa offers! What a terribly rigid structure.

iblawi:
Why don't you spend time looking for failures of Kenya instead of Nigeria. I believe your problem in kenya is more than that of Nigeria. Nairobi has about 3 million people living in it and UN still claim 1.2 of them are slum dwellers and it still doesn't disturb you. Now am beginning to wonder if it's the effect of Nigeria's influence that is disturbing you guys.

Look, despite our population we still have 1 of the fastest Internet speed in Africa so your source is a big lie. Unbanked people! This is serious o? You claim no electricity but Nigerian still have more industries than you do. So how do the they power their equipments? How many times do we have to educate you that generators, solar, etc are also sources of power?

The funny part of the whole thing is that your source is almost a decade old. This makes me wonder if you guys are trained on how to carry out research.

I just tire for this people o. They spend day and nights searching for Nigeria's faults and weakpoints. I just can't believe that some Africans are this stupid.
Half of the people of their capital city Nairobi live in slums unfit for even pigs to the extent that their slums have been attracting all manners of foreign aids and humanitarian groups and that does not bother them, what disturbs them is Nigeria's issue.

Do u know that till now they guy cannot provide the list of the 47 so called kenyan counties and their administrative capital cities (and their populations) which he compared with Nigeria's 36 states? I am now wondering the kind of individuals we are wasting our time with here.

@TayserMahiri, i am still waiting for you! Are you telling me that you dont know about Kenya at all or is there a problem?
Am i wrong for asking you to give me the list of the 47 Kenyan counties and their administrative capital cities? I want to know more about Kenyan cities. I want to learn about the 47 administrative cities of Kenyan counties!!! If you cannot provide this, then i really don't know what me or other people viewing this thread will label you!

TayserMahiri:
I don't expect you to agree with statistics that have not been cooked. You are used to cooked Naija statistics. However, true statistics really do exist. Hold your breath.

Estimates from the Finscope surveys suggest that in Africa, the proportion of the population without access to formal financial services ranges from 44 percent in South Africa to 92 percent in Mozambique (see Honohan and King 2012). Nigeria, the most populous country in Africa, lies at the higher end of this scale with 79 percent, approximately four-fifths of the adult population, estimated to be unbanked. At least you have improved a bit since then because as at last year, you were rolling drums at a measly 44 %.

Source: WorldBank, I know you love worldbank and IMF because they agree with your GDP numbers. You either choose to believe this here is a lie, or believe your GDP figure is cooked. You don't cherry pick data.
http://blogs.worldbank.org/allaboutfinance/the-unbanked-four-fifths-informality-and-barriers-to-financial-services-in-nigeria-michael-king-janu

"Out of those, only about 40,000 are active and only about 16 percent of Nigeria’s 44 percent banked population have debit cards. Furthermore, electricity and internet outages in Nigeria make consumers less likely to use cards at places like restaurants and stores."

Hehe,
these things are all intertwined. No electricity >>> poor internet >>> unbanked people >>> people running away

Here is the chart, you will notice poverty was the top reason given by nigerians for being unbanked. You will also notice No Trust as one of the reasons for not being banked.

Why are you posting a link or fact of since 2013 for 2017? Read this link below which showed 53% of Nigerians as banking as of exactly one year ago.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/03/03/report-53-of-nigerians-in-banking-system/

And definitely, expect this to have increase by now.
So, majority of the country's population are in the banking system afterall. So, take your outdates facts elsewhere.

LordAdam16:
Because North Africans are different from sub-Saharan Africans. Even to this day. Despite the fact that North Africa and much of Sub-Saharan Africa are Muslims and share core Arabic influences, the difference is like Night and Day. Western Europeans and Eastern Europeans differ, but not as much as North Africans and sub-Saharan Africans.

If you don't someone to compare Sub-Saharan Africa with the whole world, don't start talking about African Supremacy. I said you guys should bring any civilization in sub-Saharan Africa that rivals anything of the great civilizations of the Ancient World. I said anything. You can't find any.

Ancient Egyptian and Nubian Empires are North African. Nubian Empire cannot even compete with Egyptian not to talk about competing with the Persian or Greek empires. Xerxes I the Persian king burned Athens to the ground. Alexander conquered all of Asia. The Egyptian Empire did not not cross the Mediterranean.

The Abbysinia Empire can not rival the Egyptian Empire not to talk of the Babylonian, Persian, Greek, or Roman Empires. They did not even have a massive navy.

And that's arguably the best in sub-Saharan Africa.

I don't know why you guys can't be objective. Make arguments that can't stand the test of time.

There is nothing in sub-Saharan Africa that rivals any of the great civilizations. That's a fact.

So you can't be talking about African Supremacy. That's what I am against here. There is no such thing as African or Black Supremacy.

-Lord

Why should Abyssinia have a navy when they were far from the waters and on a mountaineous region all about them? It seems like you are now just arguing because you want to argue and you have been officially confirmed as a troll.

All manners of genetic testing has been done and inspite of the fact that many Arabs and Europeans have inflitrated North Africa, yet, most North Africans bear exactly the same genetic markers with other Africans.
DNA cannot lie. I would have bombarded this thread with the results of similarities of the genetic markers of North Africans and SubSaharan africans but i really don't think you are worth the effort.
You are nothing but a troll here.
Initially i thought you had a reasonable perspective and i was on partly on your side, but i think now, it has been clear to all observing parties that you and Braden2 have ulterior motives and missions here which i bet you guys have failed.

Kudos to our heroes once again, Rosskii and Horus and every other Black and African loving African who has contributed positively to this thread to this thread.

khalids:
Have you noticed that whenever Nigeria is playing in the world cup, nations cup or any soccer event, there is always unity at that point.
I believe what we need is a common rally point, a common enemy so to speak. We need to sink it into the subconscious of our populace, the importance of lifting ourselves on to greatness.....And if we can sell that, that will be our rallying point, our point of unity and then we can leave all the pettiness and move forward because they will all suddenly be of little importance, all previous points of division will appear insignificant compared to the goal and dreams ahead of us........

Yes you are correct. When it comes to facing a common enemy, of course we have to speak with one voice, but do you think we can keep on always finding and using a common enemy or opposition to unite ourselves?

Talking about setting and achieving goals as a source of unity may not be sellable because each of the individual ethnic groups and religion that make up the country also have their own goals and achievements which their promoters actively propagate in order to make their own ethnic/religious groups show greater allegiance to than the actual unity of their country.

The average Nigerian loves his religion and ethnicity more than his country. As long as the majority have this mindset, do you think we can ever grow united as a people? Until people begin to love and propagate the factor(s) that brings us together as one nation more than our individual affiliations, we may never get it together as one people.

LordAdam16:
Oga the only person giving baseless, poorly researched assertions and lies is you.

Were the Moors colonized by Islamic Arabs? Yes or No?

Did the ancient Roman Empire in all its glory exist before the Moors were colonized by Islamic Arabs? Yes or No?

Did Ife and Bini Empires exist before the Persian Empire? Yes or No?

Did the Ife and Bini Empire have navies that rival the Persian and Greek Empire navies? Yes or No?

Answer these questions truthfully, and you'll see what I've been saying all this while. That African Supremacy is a stup*d conjecture from heavily disturbed minds.

If you want to talk about sub-Saharan African achievements (even though other ancient civilizations had achievements that were miles better) count me in, but African supremacy, you must be high on horse sh*t.

You can not be superior than someone who had a far advanced civilization than you ever had.

-Lord

Why are you dividing Africans and not dividing Europeans? Why should you be comparing SubSahran Africa with the whole world?

You are listing names of empires from the whole world against only West africa? What about Abbysinia (Ethiopia)? What about Ancient Egyptians? Why are you not crediting their achievements to the black race, when it is very obvious that these people are also of the Black race?

And yes, the Ancient Egyptian, Abyssinia (Ethiopian) and Nubian empires can compete with the ancient Persian and Greek empires.

LordAdam16:
What are you yapping on about embracing history.

You are telling obvious lies and covering it up with it's all history.

Tell complete history. The Europeans had ancient civilizations better than anything in sub-Saharan Africa. Then Europe slipped into the Dark Ages.

During this time, Mohammed was born, he and his followers invaded and colonized Africa from the fair-skinned North Africans to the dark-skinned West Africans. It is these colonized Muslim Black Africans with the help of Arabs that conquered Spain and Portugal (not the entire Europe as you have been saying on this thread).

You talk about celebrating our culture, is Arabic naming, culture, and religion core African culture? Is Zayed an African Name? Is Musa an African name?

Present day Asia was already developing before they started their cultural awakening. Look at Japan and India. China too.

You called my facts that sub-Saharan Africa had no civilization that rivaled the greats in other continent lies. Provide facts to disprove you say no. Then you use your lies to say there is such a thing as African supremacy. And want all Africans to accept it as fact because you want us to embrace and develop.

So, Lagos that has been developing before you opened this thread accepted African Supremacy before the development started abi?

You are really sick in the head.

Europeans personalized christianity as their religion and heritage and with Christianity and a new christian identity, they conquered many parts of the world. Now, tell me, did Christianity originate on European soil? Is it not a religion that originated from the middle-east?

Why are Europeans not blamed or castigated for adopting and promoting an identity from a religion which originated in the middle east but when it comes to black africans like the moorish for example, you castigate the Africans for fluorishing with a religion from the middle east?

Peter, John, Stephen , Elizabeth, Mary and all these christian name adopted and propagated by the Europeans, are they names with European origin? Hell no they aren't.

LordAdam16:
Oga there is a sharp difference between achievement and supremacy.

Achievement is we did something. Supremacy is we are better than others.

Of course sub-Saharan Africans had beautiful art which is an achievement. But so did every other people around the world.

Supremacy is that we are better than others, and if that can be true for any race, it sure as hell is not black Africans. As individuals, black Africans are brilliant and rose to the pinnacle of several societies at different points in history. As a group, black supremacy is hogwash.

Let Africa develop, while we celebrate our achievements. Not start a stupid tirade called African Supremacy that is etched in lies.

Imagine these people saying China did not have an ancient civilization that was better than Bini and Ife. They tell obvious lies. That is how Hitler and Nazi Germany started. These people are racists. They are trying to start a black brand of KKK.

-Lord

Nobody ever mentioned here that we are better than others neither the OP nor his supporters. All we are concluding from this enlightenment is that Africa at least is not completely worthless.
Many of us have been made to believe that absolutely nothing can be credited to the black race and we have been slaves and inferior people from the beginning of the world which is not true.

There is nothing like beliefs of supremacy or we being better than anyone here. So take a chill!

TayserMahiri:
Is the oil in nigeria in the south or north or central? I really don't know. Maybe southerners had a headstart if the oil is in the south. If it is in the north, then I don't know whether its what messed them up. All I know is that being an Islamic region/country is not exactly a blessing in terms of progress. There is something wrong between Islamic and progress, with a few exceptions such as Dubai. Glad to hear they are regretting their lifestyle now.
Do they aim to be like southerners now? Because that will be a complete U-turn, from laid-backness to illegal activities.

Well, since u love eavesdropping or peeking into Nigerian affairs, why don't you enlighten yourself about that by doing your daily google on Nigeria?

TayserMahiri:
Guy, look around and notice that no country has developed from the entertainment industry. In the countries where entertainment scene is strong such as USA and Jamaica, the people involved generally come from the marginalized communities such as blacks in USA. Entertainment is in most cases to make life bearable. Which is what is happening now in nigeria, people are looking for places to immerse their tribulations.

Oga try another lie. The movie entertainment industry of America is dominated by the whites. The blacks only dominate the music.

Officially, the entertainment industry of America is worth about $500 billion dollars (the entire GDP of East Africa put together and multiplied by 2)
This is a country that started entertainment from the scratch when they had nada and today they are leading the world there.

TayserMahiri:
Guy, look around and notice that no country has developed from the entertainment industry. In the countries where entertainment scene is strong such as USA and Jamaica, the people involved generally come from the marginalized communities such as blacks in USA. Entertainment is in most cases to make life bearable. Which is what is happening now in nigeria, people are looking for places to immerse their tribulations.
I also notice you mention churches as another industry you are excelling in as well as fashion. Well
That is, since the the vast population is unbanked, and the number of problems just keep multiplying, nigerians are immersing themselves into music, churches and dressing nicely to feel good. Talk about burrowing your head in the sand. As soon as you lift up your head, reality will have gone nowhere. It will be right there staring at you.

All this plenty rubbish, you typed just to divert the fact that you cannot list one aspect in which Kenya as a country affects the life of the average W. African?
Ok, let me assume i am being too harsh on you, you can list anything for the whole East Africa. Try the whole East Africa and maybe you will come up with something.....come on come on boy , don't tell me the whole part of your part of the continent is know for failure, wars and refugees (Somalia, South Sudan, Ethiopia)?
I guess we now know the people dragging Africa backwards.

TayserMahiri:
And this is how Nigerians seem to miss the point at every single step. They don't give a rats a$$ about the poorer in society, who are the vast majority. As at April 2015, Kenya topped the list of the banked population in AFRICA at 75 %. South Africa was second at 70 % and guess where the giants were? A pitiful 44 %. Kenya’s banked population is above the global average of 62 per cent. Nigeria is way off the global average.

So now nigerians, when do you plan to actually bridge the gap of a whooping 56 % unbanked population? By establishing Bank branches in the floating slums of Makoko or the terror infested north? You need real solutions to real problems brothers! Not trying hard to copy the developed world who have adequate banking infrastructure. Your banking infrastructure is not adequate, what you have are big banks, which of course do not reach the poor majority. 56 % is not a small percentage, don't dream of bridging it with smartphones that the majority do not have. The banks of naija are busy expanding out of nigeria you would think they have done the full job back home! But guess what, those banks also don't care about the 56 %. For them, the poor nigerians are useless, they'd rather go to other parts of the world and tap there.

Once again, your banking infrastructure is not adequate, not when more than half your population is unbanked.

This is madness on rampage! And where did you pull your statistics from? Your ass? Or some random online rubbish?

Kenya where only 30% of the people live in Urban areas and the remainder in 1st class world slums and villages drinking animal blood? Pls try another lie.

Remember, i told you to help me with the list of the 47 counties in Kenya and their administrative capital cities (and populations attached) since you claimed that the 47 Kenyan counties are equal to the 36 Nigerian states and their administrative capital cities. Pls i am waiting for the list!

iblawi:
Now you are wrong again. Mobile banking is not the same as mobile money. The effectiveness and limitations are completely different. In Nigeria we don't use a virtual account for transactions.

E-transact, interswitch, remitta, quicktelller, GIFMIS, etc are not owned by any bank and they are widely used. My brother it's not our fault that we've grown beyond your comprehension.

We do online transactions without pay for service here unlike your mpesa you pay for services you are suppose to enjoy freely. The only time you pay for service is when you do interbank transaction but paying bills is free and transferring cash with the same bank is also free.

Now you see we have lots of options to pick from.

Lastly (@ bolded), the whole world have mobile banking but Kenya is still battle with Mpesa because you lack banking infrastructure. Don't you guys wonder why your Mpesa is failing every where it goes? The answer is simple. The whole world has gone beyond that mobile money nonsense.

You have hit the nail on the head.
So u mean these Kenyattas actually pay for the Mpesa services? That Mpesa must be bleeped up then.

If truly these Kenyattas do not have the options of mobile banking as we do with so many options to choose from, then the country is bleeped up. I can only imagine what monopoly the so called Mpesa will have over their country and thereby milking their citizens like cash cows.
Let them keep on dreaming of Mpesa spreading in West Africa. It will never work.

MrMaestro:
I agree that historical exposure is important for our confidence AND that we can't rest on these facts and become complacent to not do anything. But I don't think Rosskii believes that either. I think he wants to use that as a source of energy to ENCOURAGE people to do more to make Africa better.

On Lordadam16 and braden2, I wouldn't be surprised if they weren't even black Africans or if they were white. Racist white people in the US were already exposed for impersonating black people in profile pics and then saying embarrassing or anti black comments to make other black people hate themselves. Which is just horrible. See the source here : https://bossip.com/1388301/blacktwitterblock-these-white-nationalists-posing-as-black-people-on-twitter-arent-fooling-anyone/

Of course, i know Rosskii is trying to encourage us to wake up, increase our self esteem and believe we can make it.
I also think it is becoming more obvious that LordAdam16 and his likes are White people trying to dissuade/rubbish us or at least they are just some terrible self hating folks. They refused to acknowledge anything whatsoever not from anyone and continue their evil messages. I have challenged them and they cannot reply because they know they have ulterior motives.

I guess it's a challenge on us now. I think we may have to create an elightenment group or sort to drive our message to more black people. We have to form a school of thought to affect more of our people positively, cos i don't think debating and ending all these enlightenment here will make any substantial change in the real world. I myself was in complete darkness of this light of black history before and i must say i was liberated by the OP.

What do you say? Rosskii, Horus e.t.c

MrMaestro:
Yup, I found this out a few years ago as well. I've always believed the only think holding us back is ourselves mentally. We've either consciously or unconsciously internalized that the African is inferior. Due to a variety of factors, largely promoted by the west. In order to offset this, Africans need to start developing an African supremacist ideology. Not in the genocidal sense, but in our society and in teaching our children. Anyone who doesn't realize this or doesn't agree is just being naive. We're decades if not hundreds of years behind the west. I look at ai, and shows like Westworld and think that if we don't start having more urgency, we'll PERMANENTLY be left behind.

Artificial intelligence is already rapidly improving. And Elon Musk is creating a company called Neural link, to combine the human brain with ai. He has the BEST scientists in the WORLD working on this. What happens if they achieve this? Do you think the African would catch-up anytime soon with Rich white people becoming exponentially smarter with ai in their brains? And what happens when the middle class white person can afford to do the procedure? Africans would effectively have a timer of extinction through natural selection.

They're researching multiple dimensions, discovering what dark energy and dark matter is, organizing trips to colonize the solar system and galaxy, and even researching how they can create a human themselves using silicon and ai (see Westworld). We are getting LEFT BEHIND! And the gap is getting larger! People think we have an unlimited amount of time to get it right, but we don't! If they accomplish any of those goals in the next 75 years and African countries are still busy trying to create a functioning society and countries, we need to just pack up go because there's no catching up from then.

It is for this reason I say we need to have a STRONG sense of urgency in fixing ourselves. And this includes African supremacy. Us and our children need to believe that they're the smartest in the world, numerous studies have proven that people act in accordance to stereotype. In this study, girls and boys were told that boys are better at math than girls, and then gave all the kids a math test. Unsurprisingly, the boys did better and the girls did worse. When no such stereotype was presented before the exam, both were equal in their results ( I actually think the girls might've scored better). My point is, psychology rules EVERYTHING. The vast majority of humans are followers. The African has been following the West's perception of the African because they haven't been presented with a strong alternative. It is up to US to present that and make them follow this new ideology. If we can do that you'll see how quickly things can change.

Anyway, I've said all I needed to say. Centuries of white supremacy not only promoted white confidence, as their children began to believe they're better than Africans because they're black and their parents told them so. But it also damaged the African because he too was told white people were better, whether it be directly or indirectly. We as African parents/ leaders need to reverse this effect immediately. It is extremely important.

Seriously, i must say i am happy that we still have people like you in Nigeria.
Seriously, Africa is still sleeping and we think we have all the time in the world.
Europe is now united, America is, China is, the Arab world is, India is. E.t.c and each of them are all working hard on how to outsmart the other and control the world (forget all the so called United Nations ish and pan-Humanity trash).

I am forced to say, all we can do is pray for God not to allow these people discover a greater form of technology to completely change the world while we are caught completely unaware and unable to do anything, but alas, this idea of 'let us pray or we are praying or believing God to do sth' is part of what has really kept us behind.

These are some of the reasons why we must work on the unity of Nigeria, West Africa or the whole Black African unity, so that we can achieve more. We can't be thinking of competing in levels of advanced technology when we are still having ethnic issues and squabbles even at the federal level.

seguno2:
Was France communist when the whole country was decreed into speaking French as the official language?

Even though it wasn't, however the majority of the population at that time already spoke the Paris dialect (or similar varieties). Almost the whole power was in Paris, the capital was already there and the city wielded so much influence which probably would have hindered the minority language groups from thinking of opposing such decree.
However the minority languages till date have some regional official rights. They may not be official at the national level but they are at the regional levels.

Hindi language unification of India would have worked, the major obstacle was English. English being the colonial language of India already had a strong stake among the elites and educated people of the nation and was co-official throughout the colonial period and even afterwards, so the minority groups had a choice of English as an alternative to protest Hindi language unification. That is why even though Hindi forcefully made it's way as the official language of India, other language groups have the option of using English language for official purposes which definitely the educated Hindi speakers understand.
Another factor is that Hindu speakers are not even an absolute majority. They are just about 35% of the population of India. Probably if they were about 60% or more of India, all those Dravidian language minorities would have found it difficult to challenge them.

Braden2:
African Americans ,jamaicans etc. were shipped from primitive and voodo infested cannibal tribes in the coastal parts of west Africa, not from Timbuktu or Egypt. The tribes where Africans American were shipped from looked like the ones below .
West Africa has rainforest tropical climate ,so it's actually a jungle. They actually lived in mud huts,okay?

thats why the slave supervisors derided them saying they ran around naked and lived on trees and mud huts. that statement is true for the part of Africa African american are from.

looking at the photos below,does it seem sophisticated to your mind?the answer is simply no. it looks primitive and backward.

No pls, i think you are wrong. Many African Americans and Carribeans do undergo DNA tests to ascertain their origin tribes and countries and some of them have actually been traced to Bambara, Madinka, Songhai, Hausa, Wolof, Mende, Yoruba and Ashanti tribes. Infact i have read many reports of famous African Americans and their DNA results and apart from those who traced to Cameroon, majority or at least 50% of these results ended up from the above listed tribes. And apart from these tribes listed above, i wonder who else built the old West African empires.

It's just that in those days the great people from these empires also kept slaves who could also be from their same ethnic/linguistic groups, albeit an opressed or enslaved class of the groups.
Indians today are believed to be of one race and within the same Indian ethnicities who speak same languages you have different castes, from the highest ranking castes of rulers and noble men who wear gold and silver like nothing, to the untouchables who look very haggard in torn clothings or even no clothings, but they all share same DNA, ancestral genes, same language, ethnicity and same religion.

Rosskii:
Sorry, but Africans have been wrongfully denied knowledge of their past. And that MUST change. Europeans and Asians daily regale us with their histories, in movies, documentaries, education, and text. Most of us are more familiar with Shakespeare and Caesar than Queen Nzinga, the Angolan queen who almost single-handedly battled the Portuguese, and prevented them from enslaving her people for 40 years. There are countless people like this throughout African history. Why is it ok for us to know all about Shakespeare but nothing about Nzinga? And then when we post info on these heroes, you people start your nonsense about us "dwelling on past glories". We UNAPOLOGETICALLY WILL CONTINUE to expose our history to our people. Until they are as familiar with themselves as they are with other races. How does our discussing our history mean we are substituting that for development? When Europeans discuss Shakespeare does that mean they are neglecting their economy or whatever? It is patronising in the extreme to insinuate that exploring African history means we are neglecting current development objectives, like we are some sort of infants who cannot multitask. Kindly stop, please.

Of course i do believe you (or even say, believe in you).

I think we really need to teach our history more. It's just that there are 2 points of view pertaining to the possible outcome of emphasizing more on our history. You share one point of view and LordAdam16 and Braden2 share another point of view. Sadly, i can see reason with your own point of view and their own point of view and i think all we need to do is to strike a balance between both views, afterall we all want to see the progress of our race and people.

On your own part you feel that emphasizing on our great history will increase our black pride positively, give us a greater self esteem and cause us to wake up to our innate greatness and make the most of it for securing our future. I strongly agree with you.
WHILE on their own part they feel emphasizing on our history would be a slap on our face and a laughable irony considering the complete contradiction of our present state and the great history we wish to emphasize on. They feel that complacency or reliance on past glory could capture our minds and make us loose focus for the great task ahead and make us less productive or aspiring.
It's just 2 sides of the same coin which i do somehow agree with, hence my thought of us drawing a meeting point between both schools of thoughts.

LordAdam16 and Braden2, i hope you guys are hearing?

Pls guys, what we are all after at the end of the day is progress for our people, just that the approach differs.
The both of you however, you guys need to tone down your harshness a little bit, because i must confess (sorry to say) that a part of me is suspecting that you guys are not Black Africans because it seems like you guys feel the black race is so worthless and has never achieved anything since this world. Let's assume/agree that we have been the worst race since this world, does it mean at least that we have no single achievement to our name at all? It's just like always scolding a child whenever he goes wrong and never commending him when he does right. Thank you guys for your understanding.

khalids:
Like they say "What goes around comes around"
Many civilizations have risen and fallen....and many will still do so

And if you look through history you will see that any time a new civilization rises they always try to erase the existence of the previous civilization.

So I guess its the time of the white man now.......What I know for sure is, the time of the blacks will come once again, but I do hope we will treat others better than they are treating us now....

However we need to preach our greatness to our children, we need to know about our greatness and revive it once again
We need to stop all the divisions among our people....we need to unite and pull our resources and show the world our greatness once again.
We have been seeing flashes of our greatness across the world in business, academics, sports...etc

We need a center point for us to rise.....Nigeria should actually be that point being the greatest congregation of black folks in the world. Our being called the giant of Africa is not a mistake...however we need to rise and understand the responsibility we owe the black race....we are not just failing our selves we are failing black people all over the world

I admire your point of view. I also share your school of thought on Nigeria being the trail blazer or pace setter. However, with the structure of Nigeria today, it would be quite difficult for Nigeria to set such an example.
The colonial settings of Nigeria left it in such a way that it would be very easy for divisions to arise.

If i may ask you, can you exactly name one factor that unites the whole of Nigeria? Or one single reasonable shared heritage which Pan-Nigerians can propagate radically to convince all Nigerians the need for our sustained unity and promote our oneness? I seriously doubt there is, we have no linguistic, cultural, religious, geographical, ideological oneness.

Had it been Nigeria has a single large majority group, it would have been somewhat better where the majority would be expected to lead and others follow or at least dominated to follow, but no, Nigeria was formed on a tripod majority stand where 3 different majority groups are always seeking for domination and exaltation of their own group, not to talk of the 2 major opposing religious group who equally want to be in control at the same time and one exalts itself over the other, just like having many captains on one boat.
Sadly, this is almost the same situation in most other African countries, the reason why you see endless ethnic/religious clashes and contests for superiority and this is why i advocate for a united Black Africa or at least a united West Africa where there would be no reasonable or sellable forms of division by the agents of division to divide the people, nothing like majority or minority ethnic or religious groups and there would be a uniting factor (Black/African nationalism).

RosaConsidine:
And what would that "most powerful" language be? Bear in mind that to impose a general language, you have to subjugate those you're imposing it on. And, let's face it, no African nation, no matter how small or impoverished would willingly give up their native tongue in favour of another's in the name of unification. Despite the Russians being the dominant force in the soviet republic, virtually all the former member states have reverted to their default native tongues since the soviet republic crumbled. Picking an external language like English, French or Portuguese would be counterintuitive - we're trying to show ourselves to be uniquely equal so why would we adopt their language?

And the soviet republic is even an example to illustrate how hard it would be for a unified Africa to work. One country or a particular group of countries would always want to be dominant, be more equal than the others and the first sign of disunity is inequality. The smaller countries would begin to feel aggrieved and, with time, those cracks would show, widen and eventually divide the unified entity.

Also very true, people will hardly do something that may alter their ego even in the slightest manner unless they are forced to do so.

For example, do u know how Julius Nyerere (ex TZ president) united Tanzania? Today in Tanzania (a country with half muslim and half christian population with dozens of ethnic groups and languages exactly like Nigeria), you can hardly ever hear of religious or ethnic issues in Tanzania.
Nyerere declared Swahili as the sole official language of TZ, thatvs why till today in TZ many of them cannot speak English. The govt banned the teaching and use of native languages in public institutions and public broadcast. Tanzanians from different parts of the country were also transferred and made to work with each other and they all had no option than to speak only Swahili to themselves.
This was how they were all united and till date, Swahili/Tanzanian nationalism comes first to most Tanzanians before tribal or religious affiliations.

So, for such a unification policy to take proper effect, it definitely has to come through some form of authority which has to be the government and some selfless or sponsored agencies who will be there to make proper campaigns for such a cause through thorough enlightenment.

I think African (Black Africam unity) can easily work considering the fact that we have a united common factor which is our race! Just as India remains united through Hinduism (the major religion) inspite of their linguistic, ethnic or colour difference, black Africa can also be united on racial oneness (black nationalism).

RosaConsidine:
And what would that "most powerful" language be? Bear in mind that to impose a general language, you have to subjugate those you're imposing it on. And, let's face it, no African nation, no matter how small or impoverished would willingly give up their native tongue in favour of another's in the name of unification. Despite the Russians being the dominant force in the soviet republic, virtually all the former member states have reverted to their default native tongues since the soviet republic crumbled. Picking an external language like English, French or Portuguese would be counterintuitive - we're trying to show ourselves to be uniquely equal so why would we adopt their language?

And the soviet republic is even an example to illustrate how hard it would be for a unified Africa to work. One country or a particular group of countries would always want to be dominant, be more equal than the others and the first sign of disunity is inequality. The smaller countries would begin to feel aggrieved and, with time, those cracks would show, widen and eventually divide the unified entity.

The reason why the Soviet republic failed is simply because the nation had a sole majority group (Russians) which easily dominated the minority groups and the minorities were easy to be manipulated and made to believe that they were under Russian opression and domination.

The case of a united Africa (Black Africa i suppose, excluding the white arabic speaking north africa) would be very easy, because there would be nothing like a majority group or minority groups. No single ethnicity would be able to dominate a united Black Africa as no single ethnic group has up to 10% of the population of the continent. So we would definitely all be equal unlike in USSR where the Russians were like first class citizens.


Talking about choice of language. As it stands, the only language most suitable for all of Africa is SWAHILI, why did i say so?
1)Swahili is like an artificial language, a lingua franca which was formed and it actually belongs to no one, no ethnic group can actually lay ancestral ownership to the language. Even though some very small group of people on the East African coast have personalized it, they are still not ancestral owners of the language.
2) Swahili is a Bantu language (even though with many loanwords from other non african languages). Bantu is the largest and most widely spread sub-black African group
3) Swahili is the fastest growing (native african language lingua franca) on the continent and about 6 countries have adopted it officially and still spoken in many others....
I hope you can see the potentials of this language?

However, if Swahili is to be adopted, in order to pacify or encourage other black Africans who are not of the Swahili belt or Bantu language belt. A language comitte could be set up to create another official language which would still be based on Swahili but with the addition of many nouns from other major African languages. At least, the nouns in swahili with non-african origins can actually be replaced by nouns from other major African languages to make it somewhat balanced and encouraging for other non-swahili or non-bantu speakers to adopt.

Blue3k:
Since I don't feel like doing too much research I'll do a laymen stab at it. The middle belt states are more educated for one. Statisticly this is proven with Jamb. Education has positive correlation to lifetime learning and job opportunities. Next lots of middle belt states have better economy per capita. States like Kogi engage in lots of mining along with other activities carried out in the state.

I would add better family planning aswell even though I have no stats on that.

Well, i think the family planning is one of the main issues afterall.