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Pure fraud. Even the Nigerian judiciary system has been compromised. Nigeria is a ticking time bomb.

myobjective:
I am very familiar with Kwara state and Ilorin because I have one of my parent from there, Kwara is a civil servant state and the Ilorin people dominate the political landscape, the issue in Kwara is not about Muslim and Christian but mostly between Ilorin and others and between the Yoruba and ethnic minorities from the northern part of the state.

Kwara is generally a very poor state with wealth concentrated among some few families, reasons why Ilorin people hate the Sasaki family, he hasn't really used the political goodwill to empower the people of the emirate, despite the dominance of Ilorin, the people of Ofa, and other Yoruba ighomina people are doing very well within the Ilorin municipal areas.

Yes you have a good point here. Igbominas and most people of Kwara south tend to love themselves irrespective of religion. They do not discriminate themselves. But many of them are being born and bred in Ilorin and after some time of mixing with Ilorin people, the Igbomina muslims tend to inherit the muslim extremist trait.
Ilorin people are muslim extremist compared to other Yoruba muslims.

vigopress:
30th September, 2019

Governor Inuwa Yahaya sends list of commissioner-nominees to state Assembly

...Appoints Special Advisers, chairman FRC

Gombe State Governor, Alhaji Muhammadu Inuwa Yahaya has forwarded the names of 18 commissioners- designate to the state House of Assembly for confirmation as members of the state executive council.

Recall that the Governor had earlier vowed to send the list of the commissioner- nominees to the state House of Assembly before 1st October.

Meanwhile, Governor Muhammadu Inuwa Yahaya has approved the following appointments:

1. Dijatu Bappah
Special Adviser ( Social Investment)
2. Alh. Garba Jijji Gadam
Special Adviser ( Inter- Governmental Relations)
3.Geoffrey Namu Birba
Special Adviser ( Drugs and Narcotics)
4. CP Mohammed Wakili ( Rtd)
Special Adviser ( Security Matters)
5. Col. Sani Adamu Dabsiya( Rtd)
Special Adviser ( Security Matters)
5. Hamma Adama Ali Kumo
Special Adviser ( House of Assembly Matters)
7. Abubakar Inuwa Tata
Chairman, Fiscal Responsibility Commission

All the appointments are with immediate effect.

Ismaila Uba Misilli
Senior Special Assistant
( Media and Publicity)

In a state where 40% of the population are christians, only 1 out of these 7 confirmed is a christian. Hausa fulanis should not worry, one day, their oppression on christian minorities will come to an end.

oilPUSSY:
Summary Sir .

What's the percentage of over all Christians and Muslims ?


Again, what's the percentage of Muslim population in southern Kaduna ?

Does Taraba state have indigenous Muslims, if yes what's the percentage ?

Plateau is 85% christian, 15% muslim indigenously. However when the Hausa settlers of Jos north are included it becomes like 75-80% christian.

If by Southern Kaduna, you mean all the non-hausa ethnic groups south of Zaria (11-12LGAs out of the 23 LGAsin the state). Then they should be like 90% christian. If you include the Hausa settlers in their midst (then 80% christian).
Out of the 50 ethnic groups that make up Southern Kaduna, no one is predominantly muslim, but some are one-third muslim. While some like Kataf, Jaba, Bajju e.t.c have become 100% christian cos they chased away all their indigenous muslims together with the Hausa fulanis
If you are a Bajju or Jaba or Kataf man and you are a muslim, you are considered an abomination/outcast. You can't even stay in your village cos mosques are not allowed.

Hence among some tribes, the indigenous Southern Kaduna muslims are seen and counted as Hausas while Indigenous Hausa christians are counted as Southern Kaduna Religion plays a greater role than ethnicity of course.

Yes Taraba have indigenous muslims. Half of the muslims in Taraba are Jibu (Jukun), Wurukun, Chamba, Mambilla, Kona (Jukun), Mumuye e.t.c by tribe, while half are fulanis & Hausas.

Taraba is like 65-70% christian, 15% indigenous muslims and 15% Fulanis & Hausa.

immortalityk:
Most of those places im asking,I already have the map of the LGA
I'm conducting a research
Now
Adamawa
I'm very curious about this
Where are the Christians situated
Also the major towns yola mubi
The Christians
How do they fare
Also, when I was watching a documentary about kashim shettima,previous governor of borno
I noticed most of the hard workers are Christians
Also the Christians seem to be doing most of the menial jobs in Maiduguri, a speculation
Also the marghi
I would like to know about them
Is it true many Christian women are now widows in borno?
Is there still Christian stronghold in borno?

If I may ask/go further in any explanation. What could make a Yoruba man from Ekiti as yourself so interested in the religious demography of Northern Nigeria?

immortalityk:
Most of those places im asking,I already have the map of the LGA
I'm conducting a research
Now
Adamawa
I'm very curious about this
Where are the Christians situated
Also the major towns yola mubi
The Christians
How do they fare
Also, when I was watching a documentary about kashim shettima,previous governor of borno
I noticed most of the hard workers are Christians
Also the Christians seem to be doing most of the menial jobs in Maiduguri, a speculation
Also the marghi
I would like to know about them
Is it true many Christian women are now widows in borno?
Is there still Christian stronghold in borno?

Adamawa is generally a christian majority state. Christians are 60-65% of the state. However, fulanis who make half of the muslim population in the state are the largest ethnic group. This is what helps to ensure that most of the muslim votes go in one direction, while that of the christians are heavily divided and manipulated.

Every of the 21 LGAs in Adamawa state is either 50/50 or predominantly christian or overwhemingly christian. I am yet to find one with absolute muslim majority.

Another thing is that the muslims usually have a stronger population in the towns than in the rural areas, so whereas many towns are 50/50 or muslim majority, almost all the rural areas are dominantly christian.
Mubi town is 50/50, but the rural areas of Mubi north and south LGAs are predominantly christian. Yola (old Yola town in Yola south is a fulani community which of course is a muslim place), but Jimeta the state capital (more like new Yola is a 50/50).

Christians are fairly discriminated in Yola because fulanis own much of the lands and houses. Like I heard in 2011 or 2015 elections or so where fulani landlords evicted their christian tenants cos they did not vote for Buhari.
Discrimination is non existent in Mubi except maybe in the political/job aspect.

However, overall, christians are not seriously or openly discriminated in Adamawa the way it is done in Gombe or Borno because they have strong population everywhere in the state.

As for Borno. Christians doing menial jobs? Christians are more educated and leave the state to get better jobs elsewhere. Muslims may be controlling all the state govt money but cos of lack of education, the majority are still in poverty and I believe should be doing more menial jobs.

Gwoza, Askira Uba, Hawul & Chibok are still overwhelmingly christian, while Biu & Shani LGAs are like 50/50 or slight christian majority, but Biu town is muslim majority.

No, I don't think most women or christian women in Borno are widows. It is exaggerated. Most residents flee from a town to another area before BH captures it.

Marghi are the 2nd largest tribe in Southern Borno after the Buras (4th largest in the state after Kanuris, Buras & Shuwa Arabs). They may be 5th sha. Kibakus (Chiboks) may be more than them. They are 80-90% christian. Mostly found in Uba (Askira-Uba LGA).
The Marghis in Adamawa (Madagali LGA) are 70% christian.

immortalityk:
Also this is a map of plateau
I want u to give me the religious composition
I want u to tell me which religion dominates each LGA

1) Jos north - 60% christian (This is arguable as muslims think they are the majority. It could be 50/50 but majority of the muslims are settlers - Hausa fulani)

2) Jos south - Now 98% christian (There used to be like 10% muslims here before but the recurring crisis has chased them out)

3) Jos east - 70% christian, 30% muslim (the muslims are mostly indigenes)

4) Bassa - 90% christian

5) Barkin Ladi - 96% christian or more (muslim settlers have been chased out)

6) Riyom - 96% christian or more (muslim settlers chased out)

7) Bokkos - 95% christian

Mangu - 75% christian, 25% muslim (most muslims are indigenes)

9) Pankshin- 95% christian or more (muslim settlers chased out)

10) Kanke - 80% christian, 20% muslim (most muslims are indigenes)

11) Quanpan - 75% christian, 25% muslim (most muslims are indigenes)

12) Shendam - 85% christian, 15% muslim (many muslims were chased out in the past)

13) Mikang - 95% christian or more

14) Langtang north - 99% christian (muslims chased out)

15) Langtang south - 95% christian

16) Kanam (muslim majority) - 75% muslim (most of the muslims are indigenes)

17) Wase (muslim majority) - 65% muslim (half of the muslims are indigenes).

immortalityk:
I would like to know about which religion dominate Ilorin in terms of owning land businesses schools industries and so on
I've started to see an occurrence in which the Ilorin indigenes who are predominantly Muslims have been behaving in a somewhat violent manner towards the Christians
Also,ive started to really question the religion that dominate Ilorin highbrow areas
That's for Ilorin only

Hmm, Kwara is one of the least familiar states to me in the north because it is a yoruba dominated state and I am mostly interested in northern states with minority ethnic groups.

However, with what I know about Ilorin (the 5 LGAs that make up Ilorin emirate. i.e Kwara central + Moro LGA). They are overwhemingly muslim in population. Although over the years they have seen some christian converts. Also, the influx of other yorubas from the southwest and Kwara south has managed to boost the christian population of the city.
Ilorin is a civil service city, so definitely, those who control the wealth of the state have to be those who dominate the civil service which are of course muslims. There is silent discrimination against christians in the whole Kwara state and I've gotten this info from christian Kwara indigenes themselves.
So it shouldn't be a surprise however muslims treat christians in Ilorin.
Also added by the fact that Ilorin indigenes have a high fulani mixture among them.

immortalityk:
Nothing about u concern me
All I want to ask are professional questions
Especially about kwara Kogi axis,the yorubas
Southern borno gombe south Adamawa taraba ,u should know where this is going
I want to know about religion also

Ok, go ahead.

immortalityk:
Guy quote me back
I don't understand how nairaland messaging system works
Very confusing
Let's talk like this

Ok, ask your questions. However, I cannot answer personal questions on a faceless and public platform.

immortalityk:
Guy
I wanna have some discussions with u
When u have time, let me know
I have some things I want to ask u
I've been reading your topics for a long time

I have sent you a PM on your email.

I hope the foolish people who voted these crop of leaders can see what they have put the nation through?

It's so sad that very soon we Nigerians would use our own hands to finally destroy the country and become refugees.

Yoruba people haff enter one chance

Kollyman:
Anytime you hear about high level of poverty in the north, trust me they are majorly Hausas whom the Fulanis have kept in perpetual poverty so that they wouldn't rise up one day to reclaim their birth right. Most Hausas are slaves in their own land as they have been keenly robbed but covered and decorated with religion so that they wouldn't see vividly.

Whenever I come across the Hausa people, I often pitty them as Xenophobia in SA is far better than what they are going through. Hausas have been captured, caged and sent to the bottomless pit. Their hope of regaining their freedom is very slim. Their captors kept selecting some greedy few among them and rob their lips with the oil from the delicious jollof rice which they only perceive the aroma but are not allowed to taste....


Let's forget about religious brainwashing, most Hausas are nice and friendly.

Now that there are a lot of Hausas in the south, maybe they will get civilised and one day do the needful.

As for the Ilorin matter, advocacy had started, those ones have woken up from their religious slumbering and they want to collect their cake from their master.

Exactly. Another way fulanis use in keeping Hausas and other islamized northern minorities in perpetual bondage is through intermarriage.

They intermarry into the elite Hausa class, thereby making every enlightened, rich and educated Hausa man a mix of fulani blood. As a hausa man or woman, you can never think of hurting the fulanis when your wife, mother, daughter in law, husband, mother in law or cousins are fulanis. They then become one inseperable people in islam.
This only happens among the rich and middleclass who have the voice in the society. However, among the illiterates Hausas & fulanis are very seperate and unmixed.

This is exactly the same thing fulanis are doing in Ilorin. Almost every educated and wealthy Ilorin family is of mixed fulani heritage.

selemempe:
I blame the middle belt for not cutting the core north to size when you had the chance during Gowon regime

Gowon was not a middlebelter by heart. He was born and bred in Zaria (Hausa land). His family are intermarried with Hausa fulanis. This was why he was a strong 'pan-northerner'.
He was the best Pawn the core-north could use in their game to deceive the middlebelters.

The likes of Dimka and Orkar who at different times wanted to overthrow a pro arewa government were the ones you could truly say were middlebelters by heart!

letusbepieces:
I heard Boko Haram is Fulani strategy for depopulating the larger Hausa group of people?


The main foot soldiers in Boko Haram are Hausa.


Hausa girls are used for suicide bombing.

Boko haram is mainly affecting the Kanuri people and the christian ethnic groups of Southern Borno/Northern Adamawa.
Boko haram members are mostly Kanuris. It is a Kanuri thing.

There are no Hausa indigenes of Borno, Adamawa or Yobe

Rather I think Banditry in the Northwest should be the fulani strategy to reduce Hausa population and takeover.

kufre2010:
How? Because we have hausas that don't understand fuldfulde the Fulani language and we have Fulanis that can't speak hausa.

As of today, there are little to no fulanis who don't speak Hausa. Most fulanis from Gombe, Taraba & Bauchi speak fluent Hausa! It is only in Adamawa where you can find fulanis who do not speak fluent Hausa. Even at that they still understand. Hausa language has penetrated every ethnic group in the north and middlebelt except for the Tivs, Idomas, Igalas, Ebiras, Nupes & Kwara!

kufre2010:
Often times when Nigerians speaks about tribes in our country, they will speaks of other tribes as a single tribe but when it comes to Hausa and Fulani they will joint it as Hausa/Fulani. There is nothing like Hausa/Fulani. We have Fulanis which speaks Fulfulde and are majorly herdsmen while we have Hausa who speak Hausa and are largely farmers.

BafanaBafana:
Sometimes its best to allow people wallow in their ignorance.

Millions of fulanis (of the northwest) have been hausanized. They claim to be ethnically fulanis but they no longer practice fulani culture or speak fulani language e.g Buhari, Yaradua, Shagari e.t.c

How do you guys suggest that these Hausanized fulanis should be classified? Should they be Hausas or Fulanis?

Hausas and fulanis have overmixed so much, so it is not out of place if they are jointly referred to as Hausa-fulani. If you don't like it, go back and undo the history.
Infact for me, I take it to be Hausa-fulani-Kanuri (aka Core-northerners). The same retrogressive and unproductive set of human beigns.

madenigga:
They cannot shift to people who are shouting Biafra and presidency nobody would take those people serious

And the people shouting Biafra, are they not voting? Didn't they vote this year and give Buhari a run (if not for the rigging) with all the Biafra shouting?

madenigga:
They will fight the Yoruba for presidency while they give them the VP, while we don't get any, and you are OK with that

How can they fight the Yoruba for Presidency and still give them VP? If they and the Yorubas are not in good terms, common sense should tell you they will naturally shift to the Igbos or the SS. They must have a southern partner to achieve their goals.

YorubaHero12:
Firstly, APC started in 2015 so you can’t expect them to rotate the governorship across all religion in 2 terms and with my comment up there you can clearly see that Christian dominated the APC governors in the SW since 2015.

The sample period is too small for you to attack APC whether they’ve produced Christian governors and that shows your lack of insight or maybe you’re purposely behaving like an ignorant fellow.

In 2015, Aregbesola was a governor under the defunct ACN, do you expect APC to tell him to vacate the seat coz they needed a Christian Governor?

In 2015, Ajimobi was the new governor under APC merger and it’s also foolish to say APC purposely gave their ticket to a Muslim.

You Mentioning Kwara shows you are a bigot coz Kwara is majorly Muslim like the SE is majorly Christians. Why can’t SE also have a Muslim Governor?

Lastly, you and your folks should stop the rubbish of bringing religious divide in any Yoruba enclaves coz we’ve learnt to live as human and it’s always yoruba first before any religion. You can continue to wallow in religious animosity in the Core North, NC and the SE.

Leave the Yoruba out of that Bro!

Automatic ACN candidates in 2015. Ok, why wasn't it done in 2019? Since Oyo & Osun states are like a 50/50, after muslim tenure of 8 years shouldn't it go to a christian?

Kwara is majority muslim, but it is at least 35% christian. Can you mention 1 LGA in the entire southeast with a muslim majority?
Mentioning Kwara doesn't make me a bigot beacuse in a state like Taraba which is 70% chrisitian, your beloved APC still presented a muslim candidate. Who is now the bigot between me and you? You who supports a bigoted party or me?

Like I said, you yorubas are paying the price of a one Nigeria (which is religious division).

Today in Abuja, Gbagyis and other middlebelters are being scammed and kidnapped in their own land for rituals (by mostly Yorubas & Igbos). This is a price they have to pay for one Nigeria.

You cannot eat your cake and have it.

Onijagidijagan:
Read my comment again..hausas and fulanis are far more accomodating than any southerner.

How accomodating are they to we the Northern christian minorities? Absolute trash!

SamNaijaboy:
You are highly combative and I’m going to need you to steer clear of my mentions. Not interested in combative conversation. Odabo

Hahaha, I am highly factual and truth hurts ambassadors of lies.

YorubaHero12:
What is even your problem you this Igbo guy claiming middle belt. You’ve all around the thread trying to attack the Yorubas and now you’re trying to drag the Yoruba into your religion madness.

When did APC even started that you’re tryna paint it a Muslim party in the SW. are you even matured at all before driving the Yorubas into this rubbish religion craze that have bedeviled the North and SE.

APC got into office in 2015.
They had Sanwoolu, Akeredolu, Fayemi, Abiodun, and Ambode Who are all Christians

They also had Oyetola, Ajimobi, Amosun, and Aregbesola who are all Muslims.

Can you do the math and stop using this rubbish religion mentality of the average SE and the northerners to judge the SW.

Hey stop the rubbish there. I am a Plateau man from Tongzong, Gindiri district, Mangu LGA. If you think I am an Igbo, then that is your problem and myopic bigotry. Go through my profile since 2013 when I joined nairaland and see my posts promoting the middlebelt and even opposing the Igbos when they interfered. I stand for the truth and not take ethnic sides.

SamNaijaboy was the one who brought the topic of APC producing christian candidates in Yoruba land, not me. So face him and not me. I wouldn't have discussed it if he never brought it up.

And like I told Sam, Ogun, Ondo, Ekiti & Lagos clearly have a christian majority, so it is nothing special if APC produces christian candidates. The question is, has APC ever produced christian candidates in Oyo & Osun or Kwara where the population is 50/50 or muslims are slightly more? Answer this question or cover your head with shame.

I like the fact that you yorubas try to put religion away from politics, but unfortunately for you Yorubas, you are a part of Nigeria where religion plays a major role in politics in other regions. You can never be exempted from the influence. This is the price everyone has to pay for one Nigeria.

SamNaijaboy:
So out of 5 I’m off by one and you are already having an apoplectic fit.
You wrote:
Stop misinforming people with false facts because you abuse their senses when you lie. You have the great option of keeping shut if you know nothing
Thereafter you wrote:
That of Lagos came because of the huge national outcry against APC in 2015 claiming that Lagos (a christian majority state has never had a christian governor).
Sir Otedola is Christain.
See how easy it is to make a statement that is incorrect without having an agenda?

About the MB, I said you may be on to something yet you attacked without pausing to read that piece.
You are obviously aggravated over something so take some time to cool down.

You are very pointless and you boldly make assertions of things you know nothing about. Refrain from this. I am highly disgusted and exasperated by lies.

madenigga:
What if this never happens and the north and south west form a permanent political alliance won't we be loosing?

Hahaha, it will always happen because the north loves power more than their welfare. They want a Nigeria where only them rule, but the only threat to this quest of theirs is a united south and middlebelt. As long as this is not in question, they will definitely fight the Yoruba if only the yoruba stand in their way. The north only formed an alliance with the west in order to take power, they never intended to share.

SamNaijaboy:
Let’s look at all the SW govs today under APC
Ogun-Abiodun- Christain
Osun- oyetola-Christain
Lagos- Sanwo-Olu- Christain
Ondo- Akeredolu -Christian
Ekiti- Fayemi -Christain

Kwara is not in the SW and APC just won there after decades.

I think for Taraba and the rest, while you may be on to something, it may be wrong to assume it’s deliberate strategy because of the Fulani agenda.

Has desperation taken you to this level? Since when did Alhaji Isiaka Gboyega Oyetola become a christian?

And I don't really understand what you mean by your last paragraph, what do you mean by fulani agenda? How is that an excuse to APC giving muslims the ticket in Taraba (a state where 70% of the people are christians)?
What about Nasarawa, is it a fulani agenda too? It was the turn of Nasarawa north to produce governorship in the state and Nasarawa north senatorial district is like 80% christian. PDP who has always given their Nasarawa ticket to a muslim gave it to a christian because of this, while APC still gave it to a muslim.

Stop misinforming people with false facts because you abuse their senses when you lie. You have the great option of keeping shut if you know nothing.

Besides, APC giving a muslim the ticket in Ondo or Ekiti knows it would be a very foolish decision cos muslims are a small minority in both states. That of Lagos came because of the huge national outcry against APC in 2015 claiming that Lagos (a christian majority state has never had a christian governor).
Ogun too is a christian majority state.
Oyo & Osun are the real koko!

itsme01:



all of Atiku's minions going gaga over Osinbajo, from Mike Ozhekome to Chita Chidoka..

Lets analys facts outside ipobian emotion

*Should Osinbajo throw in the towel to quit, Tinubu or Elrufai gets the mantle and that prolly worst decission for christians right now
*Cabal wouldnt fear no one and run wild and i am sure RUGA would soon reach your village
*Christians in their haste to condenmn their own (osinbajo) would install a muslim muslim ticket and perhaps they would get a muslim man that loves them more than Osinbajo (Christian loving El rufai )


....

This is a very stupíd assertion. What has Osibanjo done ever since about all the killings of christians ever since for you to now say that his resignation will be the worst decision for christians? Come, take your time!. It will be the worst for Yoruba people and not christians.

As a middlebelt christian I see absolutely no how Osibanjo has represented me or my people. Nonsene!

northbird:
Stop the generalisation about youths in the south-west. The ones descibed abandoned schooling or any trade/craft dey were enrolled into.

Even from your region, check out the specs of the youths always extorting money, they also abandoned education and lack any form of training or skill.

The militancy in the south-south years back is a classic example. Check out the specs of the rank and file in that group, you will find your answer.

No, correct yourself. The militancy in the SS was as a result of self determination.

YorubaHero12:
What do you mean by sabotage? I thought you said we are clear.

In 2019, the Igbos lined behind Atiku a Fulani Muslim from the North.

In 1993, the Igbos line behind Bashir Tofa, a Fulani Muslim from the North.

In 1979, the Igbos lined behind Shagari, a Fulani from the north.

In 1960, the Igbos lined behind Tafawa Balewa, a Fulani man from the north.

The alliance between Igbos and the North only broke in 2015, when the Yorubas entered the mainstream politics due to the ACN merger. Why wailing when we just borrowed the betrayal template the Igbos have always used against the interest of the south?

And don’t say OBJ was Yoruba presidential candidate coz the SW clearly voted for Falae in 1999 in their majority while the Igbos voted OBj to spite the SW.
It’s akin to the SW voting Okorocha as Igbo president when Peter Obi is on the ballot. You get the drift?

My comment wasn't in response to you nor was it to a yoruba person. It was to an Igbo person. You and I were clear on issues. I don't like going forward and backward on same thing.

SamNaijaboy:
But there was a time 5 out of 6 APC governors in the SW were Christians.
In the middle belt, most APC governors have been Christians.
How is this possible if what you say is true?

Lies Lies Lies and Lies! Oyo, Ogun, Kwara & Osun had muslim APC governors, so when did that 5/6 ever happened?

In the middlebelt only Benue & Plateau does APC ever give a christian their ticket because they know that muslims are a small minority in both states. Meanwhile in states like Taraba, Adamawa, Nasarawa, Kogi, Kaduna and even FCT senatorship where christians are the majority or a 50/50. APC must present a muslim candidate.

I am from Plateau central and do you know that APC produced muslim candidates for the 2 house of rep positions in my senatorial district? And the thing is that both constituencies are at least 75% christians. Don't even say what you don't know before I go further to embarrass you with facts.