₦airaland Forum

garfield1:
I met two guys in uniport last week.i dont know their ethnicity but there from taraba,gashaka to be precise.they said thatthe fulanis are the most populous tribe in taraba.they dominate six lgas of gassol,gashaka,ardo kola,jalingo,sardauna and bali.that they are also in great numbers in lau and karim lamido lgas.

They also claimed that the mumuyes predominate zing,yorro and have a reasonable population in lau.they stated that jukuns are only found in wukari and takum while the kutebs are found in ussa and takum.
They also claimed that the tivs populate wukari,takum,donga and gassol while the mambillas are in sardauna and ibi.
According to them,the ichens dominate kurmi lga while the chambas are in donga and takum and the pansos are in ibi.
They also alluded that muslims dominate northern taraba,make up about 60% of central taraba and have a huge presence in 2 out of the 5 lgas in sourhern taraba and that since most muslims in taraba are not enlightened or educated,it allows the christians to dominate politically and socially.
I will like indigenes of taraba and residents to react to the above assertions.thank you.


Thats from my post.nobody could challenge it.jukuns are only in 2 lgas,many other ethnicitues claim jukun but are not jukun for security purposes.even tivs are more than jukuns in taraba.even if christians are more than muslim,its 45 55.
In adamawa,christians dominate 8 lgas.

Nyamuri, can you see what your fellow abokii did?
See how he is breaking down Taraba quite well, just because he met 2 people from there. Now imagine if he had met at least 20 people of different religions and tribes who gave him their different pictures of the makeup of the state, he would be able to juxtapose everything together and come to a better point.

Don't be a foôl to ask for references backing up the ethno-religious demography of a place. The core north rejected the inclusion of ethnicity and religion in our 2006 census because they do not want to be exposed.

If you truly want to know the ethno-religious demography of a place, you can ask multiple natives of that place who are knowledgeable to help you out. In a place that is mixed with different tribes and religion, make sure you ask people from different tribes and religions, unless you may get a skewed picture, because everyone will try to glorify his own ethnic group and religion over the others.

Secondly, use google, facebook, youtube! Search for news events from that LGA, search for the name of the ethnic group and events surrounding them, check for their traditional rulers. Check for the political leaders and political contenders of elections in that place. Use the names of their traditional/political leaders to search on facebook for people who have such similar names and check their affiliations.
You can also use foreign sources like ethnologue. Although ethnologue has very outdated figures. However it will tell you the names of LGAs that tribe are found. It will also give you the alternative names.
Also, you can travel a lot.

For example, I used to think that Afo people in Nasarawa state were overwhelmingly muslims, until I was able to follow the 'Afo national union day' and I saw the huge number of christians in the crowd. And not just that alone, also, for every Afo muslim person that was mentioned and honored, there was a christian too.

Also, I used to think the Babye people of Nasarawa were mostly christians, not until I joined their facebook group and I saw huge numbers of muslims who were proud to be Babye.

Look at this video below. This is a dance from the women of Rindre (Nungu) who are the majority tribe in Wambai LGA, Nasarawa state and minority in Sanga LGA (Gwantu) of Southern Kaduna.
This is the tribe that the female deputy governor of Kaduna came from.
From their dressing, you can see that about half of them are muslims and about half are not.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyWnBf55QhY

Do not be foolish enough to wait for anybody to spoonfeed you with references especially when it comes to the demographic makeup of middlebelt areas or any other part of Nigeria you don't know. If you want to know, you can know.

garfield1:
This is a poor or not even an excuse.during this year polls,they were underage voting in ebonyi.the massive tgumbprinting and writing of results that usually occur in ss/se before 2019 cannot be surpassed by the north.do you know that rivers once produced 2 million votes in 2003?

It was in 2011 that Rivers produced such huge votes. Go and check what Kano produced that same year. And what was the number of their registered voters for that year?

Many people seem to underrate the population in Rivers state, forgetting that Port harcourt is the most populated and largest city in the South after Lagos.

@ Nyamuri

For the last time. The group I belong to does not care about anybody's state or religion. Your ethnic group is what matters and your desire to choose your own destiny.
Whether you think Niger, Nasarawa or Adamawa is a muslim state is your own business and not ours. It belongs to your pocket only.

Every smaller northern minority ethnic group who speaks hausa as a 2nd language and has a desire to establish it's identity is by default part of us.

Take Bauchi state for instance, it is an 80% muslim state with Hausas & fulanis and many dozen tribes. Most of the minority tribes in the state have sold their identities to the caliphate and no longer care.
However, you have the Sayawa (Zar) people of Tafawa Balewa/Bogoro who have mainted their unique identity. These people share a boundary with Plateau state. They are part and parcel of us.
Now, can Hausas leave Bauchi town or Azare and go to Zar land to tell them not to join such a progressive movement? Hell no.

Zar people are Zar. They have no business with hausa fulanis or the other hausanized tribes of Bauchi state on the views they decide for themselves. They are not an enclave in Hausa land.

As simple as ABC. Every tribe knows his or her boundaries and what he/she decide for themselves.

The only people's support I think my people should care about are the Tivs & Idomas of Benue state, because without them, we have no direct land boundary to Southern Nigeria, unless through Cameroon.

And here is your final blow. The overwhelming majority of ethnic groups in the areas I mentioned that are circled in red will be very glad to belong to a regional movement as such.

Of course, the only people that will be against it are the Hausa fulani and Kanuri settlers in our midst. But sadly for them, they are not even part of the union and they are very insignificant as far as the union is concerned.

Of course there will be agents of the caliphate from some ethnic groups who based on religion will want to reject membership. Sadly for them, 98% of the ethnic groups within the geographical area are predominantly christian or a 50/50.
An Alago muslim for example cannot come out and speak against it because his own fellow Alago christians will come out to challenge him. So, definitely, the use of religion to manipulate things will fail. Alagos may have the highest muslim population in Nasarawa state for instance, but half of them are christians and the christians from that ethnic group will not stand to watch agents of the caliphate distract them from such a lovely union.
The Kanuri settlers of Lafia will have their say in the matter, but it will not count because it does not concern them

Nyamuri:
You keep going in the same circle, rotating on the same point time without numbers!! U seem to be in a maze that has u confused . I'm not debunking or contradicting the fact that there are minority ethnic tribes in any of the same you listed, of course there is!!

What I'm saying is that, all these minority tribes from those specific states, don't have the influence, clout and strenght to successfully agitate for their course

The majority of tribe in Kebbi state are hausa/fulani, who are Muslims

The majority of tribes in kaduna state are hausa/fulani, who are Muslims

The majority tribes in Niger state are nupe/hausa, who are Muslims

The majority of tribes in bauchi, adamawa and gombe are hausa/fulani, who are Muslims

So, I wonder how you will get the numeric number or influence to help your course, no state will foolish look at you while you do that.. I always alight when I see middle belt elders issue empty propaganda that MB is not part of the north.. You simple don't have the population to effect that!

In your small mind, You think because someone belongs to a state, then their destinies are tied to people of that state? You must be very myopic to think this way.

In Kogi state for instance, the Okun (Yoruba) people of Kogi west are not culturally tied to the Ebira & Igalas. They belong and participate in different national Yoruba groups. OPC has their branch in Kogi west. Go and declare war against them and watch all the Yorubas from the Southwest come in to defend their own.
If Yorubas are going for a referendum today, do you think they will leave the Okuns behind because Igalas & Ebiras don't want a referendum?

It's like you don't know that in Nigeria, most people owe their loyalties to their ethnic groups before their states ba?

If the Gbagyis, Kamukus & Kadaras of Niger east decide that they want to form one national sociocultural body, a political party or a national pressure group with Southern Kaduna and Plateau tribes. What then is the business of Nupe or Zaria people? If they decide that they now want to identify under one identity and jointly fight for a cause nationally, will Zaria people go and stop them?
You are talking like a child.

When John Danfulani went to meet Nnamdi Kanu in Igbo land and told him that if Nigeria divides, Southern Kaduna will go with Biafra, can someone from Zaria come out to shut him up? Of course not, because he never said Kaduna state will go with Biafra, he said Southern Kaduna and this has no business with the Hausa fulanis of Zaria.

How does an agitation of Zuru people in Kebbi south affect the Hausa fulanis of Kebbi north? Will the Hausas leave their villages to go and meet the Zuru people in their villages and tell them not to agitate? I just don't understand your point.

In Nigeria, people's hearts lie with their ethnic groups and affiliations and not some stupid states.

If it ever comes to a referendum with our people, it will be based on ethnic groups. Every ethnic group will decide where they belong and this is not going to be the business of Hausa or fulani people or Yorubas or anyone else.
Everybody knows his or her ethnic group and homeland. Nobody from another tribe can decide what people from another tribe want.

If you cannot get this into your thick skull, then I give up.

garfield1:
You cannot blow hot and cold at the same time.earlier you claimed that you can use elections to determine which religion dominates a state but in the case of adamawa,you somersaulted.but since religious population is a complex thing,you can use as many factors as possible to measure the population be it which religion the indigenous ethnicities practice or electoral indices and also i use preponderance of inflation people from that state for instance most of the people from adamawa i meet or read about,what is their religion? Other factors are also important.all these factors except one shows that muslim are slightly more than adamawa christians.the indices that gives you the closest answer is electoral dominance.due to the structure of nigeria,a dominant religion or tribe will always dominate a state no matter how slightly and muslim have had more say in adamawa politics than christians.shikena

See, do not use the number of people you meet from a place to judge the people from that place.
For instance, if you go to Europe or America, 90% of the Nigerians you see there are christians. Does this make Nigeria 90% christian?

80% of Gombe people I have come across are christians. I have also asked these same Gombe christians to tell me the divisions in their state. These people tell me that Gombe is 50/50. However, I would be stupid to judge and conclude Gombe based on this. I have to do my research. I have to know every tribe in every LGA of Gombe state and how they are before I can conclude.

If you live in the north and you are a muslim, it is most likely that the people you come across are mostly muslims. Hence you are most likely to meet more muslims from Gombe than you meet christians from Gombe. However, for a christian who lives in Jos or the South for instance, most Gombe people you will meet are christians. This is the way it is.

Let me help you guys with the breakdown of Adamawa.

Adamawa south is 75-80% christian.
This is where you have the strongest christian stronghold in the state. The Bwatiyes (Bachama & Mbula) who are over 95% christian.
There are 7 LGAs in this zone. (3 of them) Numan, Demsa & Lamurde belong to the Bwatiyes and related tribes.
Then you have the Chambas in Toungo, Jada & Ganye. Chambas are 60% christian, but many fulani settlers have settled with them (e.g Atiku's family). So it is more like a 50/50.
Then you have Mayo Belwa, 40% fulani, 60% Yandang who are christians.


Adamawa north is 60-65% christian.
There are 5 LGAs.
Michika is for the Higgis (the largest tribe here) who are over 90% christian.
Madagali is for the Marghis who are like 70% christian. While Mubi north, Mubi south and Maiha are a 50/50 combined. It is owned by the Gude, Fali & Nzanyi, and other smaller tribes, they are related.


Adamawa central is 50/50. This is the fulani stronghold of the state. Fulanis and muslims are very powerful here because of the decade long system of indirect rule where tribes who were never conquered by Yola were forcefully placed under Yola emirate.
There are 9 LGAs here.
Fulanis dominate Yola south, Yola north, Fufore & Girei LGAs, however, 40% of Girei are the Battas (Bwatiye cousins of the Bachamas) who are christians. This is why they were never under Yola emirate and have their own first class king in Girei.
There are also tribes like Daka, Verre e.t.c in Yola south & Fufore who share these places with the fulanis. Some are 50/50 others are christian majority.
Yola north where you have the state capital is very cosmopolitan and all tribes have migrated to stay here, hence fulanis do not have strong power over this place as such. It is like a 50/50.

Song LGA is owned by the Yungurrs with a significant fulani minority. It is 70% christian.
Gombi LGA is owned by the Gandas & Baburrs (Bura) with significant fulani settlers. It is 80% christian.
Hong LGA is owned by the Kilbas, it is heavily populated and is 70% christian.
Shelleng LGA is owned by the Kanakurus and it is a 50/50.
Guyuk LGA is owned by the Longudas. It is under the Numan federation. It is over 95% christian.

Now, when you look at this. How on earth can Adamawa be predominantly muslim? It is impossible.
Muslims dominate politics in Adamawa cos 60% of muslims in the state are fulanis. This helps them to easily vote in one direction, meanwhile the christian votes are easily divided among tribes.
2ndly, many towns in Adamawa are 50/50 or slightly muslim majority.

You could be in Mubi town for instance, you will see that it is a 50/50 or muslims are slightly more, but as soon as you enter the rural areas in that same Mubi, you will see that many villages do not even have a mosque. Hausa fulanis and muslims in general prefer trade and commerce, they live by the roadsides hence prefer urban areas, unlike the christian indigenes, many of who live in very interior villages. This phenomenon is observed all over the north!

This is why I always tell people to desist from judging the population of a LGA based on the town. It is very wrong. The population of a town is not more than the dozens of villages surrounding that same town.
This was the same way Hausa fulani muslim settlers thought they were the majority in Tafawa Balewa (Bauchi) and Zangon Kataf towns until crisis came and by the time all the indigenous christians from the dozens of surrounding villages descended on the town, all the settlers fled.

garfield1:
I met two guys in uniport last week.i dont know their ethnicity but there from taraba,gashaka to be precise.they said thatthe fulanis are the most populous tribe in taraba.they dominate six lgas of gassol,gashaka,ardo kola,jalingo,sardauna and bali.that they are also in great numbers in lau and karim lamido lgas.

They also claimed that the mumuyes predominate zing,yorro and have a reasonable population in lau.they stated that jukuns are only found in wukari and takum while the kutebs are found in ussa and takum.
They also claimed that the tivs populate wukari,takum,donga and gassol while the mambillas are in sardauna and ibi.
According to them,the ichens dominate kurmi lga while the chambas are in donga and takum and the pansos are in ibi.
They also alluded that muslims dominate northern taraba,make up about 60% of central taraba and have a huge presence in 2 out of the 5 lgas in sourhern taraba and that since most muslims in taraba are not enlightened or educated,it allows the christians to dominate politically and socially.
I will like indigenes of taraba and residents to react to the above assertions.thank you.


Thats from my post.nobody could challenge it.jukuns are only in 2 lgas,many other ethnicitues claim jukun but are not jukun for security purposes.even tivs are more than jukuns in taraba.even if christians are more than muslim,its 45 55.
In adamawa,christians dominate 8 lgas.

You are making a big mistake when you define who is a Jukun.
Jukun is a cluster of ethnic groups, not just one ethnic group. Everyone who identifies as a Jukun is either a Kpanzo, Wapan, Wanu, Ichen or Kuteb. These 5 Jukun clans speak similar languages and have a similar culture. Then you have the Jibu & Kona.
Infact, almost everyone including the Mumuyes in Taraba state are from the old Kwararafa kingdom except the Fulanis. Even Idomas, Igedes, Igalas and most ethnic groups in Nasarawa came from Kwararafa. This is why their languages are similar. Go and read about the history of the old kingdom.

The topic of who is a Jukun is not clear. Some Ichen will tell you they are Jukuns, others will tell you they are not. While Konas all the way in Jalingo also claim to be Jukuns too.

So it is very wrong for you to say Jukuns have only 2 LGAs.
Like I told you earlier, if the Jukun tribes are divided into separate tribes, then Fulanis become the largest in the state, but if you bring Wanu, Wapan, Kpanso, Ichen & Kuteb together, then Jukuns become 35% of the state and the largest. If you add Kona & Jibu, then Jukuns are half of the whole state. That is how it works. You either identify all the tribes in Southern Taraba as Jukuns or nobody becomes a Jukun.

Also, the Chambas in Southern Taraba (Donga), have become Jukunized. They no longer speak Chamba language. They have adopted a Jukun tongue as their mother tongue, so they are counted as Jukuns most times because you cannot differentiate them

2ndly, Jibus are the majority in Gashaka & Bali and not fulanis. I repeat. My very close friend is from here. Two-thirds of Jibus are muslims and fulanis have settled with them because of the emirate. This is why they are sometimes seen as fulanis. But most of them are not fulanis. When you go to their rural areas, you find most of them are christians there. Same with the Chamba leko in Bali (where late Danbaba Suntai originally came from).
Gassol is where fulani dominate.

https://www.ethnologue.com/language/jib

Check this link above on ethnologue and you will see what I am telling you.


3rdly, Anybody telling you fulanis dominate Sardauna & Ardo Kola is a foolish liar.
Sardauna is divided into 3. Ngoroje, Gembu & Mbamnga constituencies and the 3 have their different kings and house of assembly.
It is only Ngoroje that is owned by fulanis. Gembu is owned by the Mambilla. Fulanis have been trying to take it over and that is why they have been fighting in this town. Where were you when hundreds of fulanis were killed in the town last year to the extent that the Sardauna of Sokoto started threatening fire & brimstone?

Mambilla people are 50/50 but Mambilla muslims never take sides with fulanis based on religion. They rather support a Mambilla christian over a fulani. Fulanis have tried all their efforts to divide Mambillas based on religion, but it has never worked.
(Mambilla muslims are one of a kind. I have never seen tribal muslims like them in the whole middlebelt. They are rare).
Mbamnga is dominated by Cameroonian tribes and they are all christians. The current speaker of Taraba state house of assembly is from here. Peter Abel Diah.

Ardo-Kola is shared by Kona (Jukun), Yandang & Fulanis. Fulanis have like 40% here, but Kona & Yandang are united as one. So, fulanis are treated as a minority there. So they loose elections and do not produce the house of assembly member for the constituency.

How can anyone say Taraba north is muslim majority? If we use your political suggestion. There are 8 house of assembly seats in this area and christians produce 5, muslims 3. Muslims would have produced only 2, but Mumuyes elected a muslim Mumuye for Yorro Lga.
This is why I also tell you that the use of politics doesn't always work. Judge with the tribe.
Now, will you or anyone say Yorro have muslim majority? No. Muslims in Yorro are like 25%, but Mumuyes do not play religious politics among themselves.
Some foolish people use the fact that a muslim produced senator for Taraba north to judge that it is a muslim majority, what ignorance.

Like I told your friend nyamuri. In 1999 & 2003, the senator for Taraba south was a muslim. This is a zone with 90% christian. How did that happen? The last senator for Adamawa south was a muslim. This is a zone with 75% christian. Plateau central elected Ibrahim Mantu as their senator for 8 years. Is Plateau central muslim dominated?
Among christians, politics is not always religion!

Anywhere you see a christian ruling in the north (outside Kogi & Kwara), that place must be majority christian or at least 50/50 because a muslim majority will never vote a christian. And I have dared you or any other northern muslim to prove me wrong.
However, anywhere you see a muslim ruling in the north, that place may not be muslim majority because overwhelming christian majority areas have elected muslims times without number as I have proven. Chikena!

nyamuri
garfield1
fk002
grandstar

Lastly, you guys keep on talking about muslims being majority in Niger, Kwara, Kogi and Nasarawa hence they cannot be with us.

See, i do not care about these places except Nasarawa and parts of Niger.
This movement of ours is made only for the smaller minority tribes who speak hausa as a 2nd language.
Nupes, Ebiras, e.t.c do not fall here and I don't care about them. We have no cultural similarities with them.

Kwara is a majority Yoruba state. They are going along with their fellow yorubas, so they don't even belong to the middlebelt in the first place.


As for Nasarawa state. Are you people aware that Buhari lost Nasarawa state in 2011 & 2015 elections? Of course he rigged and won in 2019.
Muslims dominate governorship in Nasarawa state because the largest christian tribe in the state (the Eggons) are disliked by people from other tribes and both christians and muslims from other tribes vote against them. Even their cousins (the Madas) who are mostly christian and the 3rd largest tribe in the state vote against them.

There are about 30 tribes in Nasarawa state and apart from the Hausa fulani & Kanuri settlers in the state, only the Egbura & Akyekura (Jukun) are predominantly muslim. And these tribes are not even among the top 5 in the state.

Eggon, Alago, Mada, Gbagyi, Gwandara, Afo, Migili, Nungu, Akyekura & Tivs.
These are most likely the 10 largest tribes in Nasarawa state.

Eggon, Mada & Gbagyi are 80% christian or more.
Tivs & Migili are over 98% christian, but Tivs are regarded as settlers in the state, but is argued.

Alago, Afo, Gwandara & Nungu are a 50/50.
While Akyekura (Awe) are over 90% muslims.

All the remaining tribes are christians except for Agatu, Ekye, Bassa & Babye who are 50/50 and Egbura who are predominantly muslim.

Hausa fulanis and Kanuris in the state are a minority, but if combined together, they should be like number 7, after Afo people.

Lastly, Igbos and Southernerns are now very very many in Nasarawa state, because of the development of Abuja (Karu) into Karu (Nasarawa) and both Karu in Abuja and Nasarawa are predominantly christian.

So, I don't know where you guys get this your claiming Nasarawa to be against the middlebelt comes from. It is very very strange.

Also, let me burst your bubble about Kogi state!
Igalas (who are the largest tribe in the state) are 50/50 or now even predominantly christian.
The current Attah of Igala (head of the Igalas and Kogi state traditional council) is a christian and he is a strong pro-middlebelter. He supports the middlebelt agitation a lot.
He banned the use of Hausa turbans among all Igala kings and royal houses and re-established the connection between his people and the Aku-Uka of Wukari. The former Attah who was a muslim used to tie a turban like an Emir.

As for Niger east. David Umaru (their longtime senator) is the most respected leader there. Infact most of the Gbagyi leaders in Niger east are christians. The Gbagyis, Kamukus, Koros & Kadaras of Niger east are 60% christian.
The Hausa settlers in the state have been using religion to gain power in the state. Divide Niger state into three Nupe (Niger south), Gbagyi (Niger east) & Kainji (Niger north) and the power of Hausa settlers will disappear.

grandstar:
Taraba is majority Christian while Adamawa is majority Muslim. That is obvious from the winners of the gubernatorial elections in these states

Elections are a bad way of judging.
Christians are the majority in Adamawa. In some muslim dominated areas, christian voters are usually suppressed. Especially in places which are controlled by emirates.

Going by your political judgement, what will you say by the fact that 2 out of the 3 senators in Adamawa are christians?
What will you say by the fact that Buhari lost elections in Adamawa in 2011 meanwhile he won all the core-northern states? Buhari only won in Adamawa in 2015 because BH had devastated many christian strongholds in Adamawa north.
This year, Buhari lost Adamawa. Check the votes and see that Atiku got more votes in christian areas and lost most muslim areas.
In the gov election, most muslims voted APC and christians voted PDP and PDP won.

Christians live mostly in the villages because they are more indigenous and they are often times being hindered and manipulated by the muslims in the towns (in areas where the towns are being controlled by emirates).

Cc garfield

grandstar:
If the Christians are 50% of the population, why did a Muslim/Muslim ticket win? It simply shows that they aren't as much as you claim. The election clearly bares that out

For me, I think the christians in Kaduna are something around 45%.

Muslims play politics better than christians. This is the simple reason why. Christians don't take elections as a do or die affair, but muslims do and that is why they register underage voters.

grandstar:
You chased away foreign investors because of what? Who are the farmers that will supply the potato? Is it not you guys? The biggest beneficiaries will be you guys!

You prefer he elects your brother as his running mate rather than provide real jobs and income for thousands of people.

With or without the foreign investors, the farmers will still sell their potatoes. So it makes no difference.

nyamuri
garfield1
fk002
grandstar

You guys should look at this map below carefully. These are all the areas I am talking about encircled within red.
The problem with you guys is that you have never sat down with a map to see how the places are.
Someone was asking me how does Southern Kebbi connect to Southern Borno, well, there is it on the map.
Southern Kebbi shares boundary with Eastern Niger which shares boundary with Southern Kaduna. Southern Kaduna shares boundary with Nasarawa & Plateau which both share boundary with Taraba. Taraba shares boundary with Southern Gombe and Adamawa which both share boundary with Southern Borno. Simple as ABC.
Taraba itself almost shares boundary with Cross River in the South-South.

Now I dare all of you to go and check the indigenous ethnic groups in all these areas encircled in red and tell me how many of them are predominantly muslim.

There are about 150-200 ethnic groups in all these encircled areas and apart from the Hausa-fulani settlers in these areas, only like 5-10 ethnic groups in that circle can claim muslim majority. The rest are mostly christians.

We are not concerned about the population of Hausa fulanis, Kanuris, Nupes or whoever outside these areas. This is our area of focus and Hausa fulanis are not the majority within these areas. Chikena.

Nyamuri:
Whatever you believe about the election, whether its rigged or not, that's subjective and your opinion doesn't matter in the court of law.. I brought you a proof and vindication that is backed up by the law and regulation of a country, your not in any position to indicate anything, that's why the court is there

Now, I have told you to bring your own proof that is backed up by the law or government, but u keep beating around the bush by throwing bogus numbers and claiming how your in a "middle belt group" , that's non of my business!! bring something tangible/article that has been publish in ur support

I have the election as my evidence accertain by the court and law, what do you have?

I don't care whatever group you belong to, it doesn't portray or validate anything.. if that's the, how could u woefully fail in predicting APC/buhari will lose middle belt? That means you don't know anything about regional politics or events

You can't tell me to go make research while ur the one making the points, you have to back your arguments with facts and evidence.. that's how debates are done, we are talking about KD not Adamawa.. You want me to go on Facebook and check names, but that's the same template you used in judging that buhari will lose the MB bcuz 80% in the group were Christians and we all know how it ended

If a foreigner is on social media and sees that 80% of the people are southerners, does that mean southerners are the majority in Nigeria? You see how ur argument is falling like pack of cards

In that post of mine which you are quoting, I clearled agreed that Atiku can never win Niger state, cos I knew many Niger people were not part of the forum. Of course, many Nupes and other Niger muslims do not join middlebelt groups. Likewise the Yorubas of Kwara & Kogi.
But Igalas & Ebiras were well represented in those names in the comments.
So, I want you to add the votes of Plateau, Nasarawa, FCT, Benue & Kogi in the last election and tell me who won between Buhari & Atiku.

Atiku won in all these areas combined of course, even with all the rigging. So my prediction never lied. The rigging only reduced the percentage.

2ndly, my telling you to go to facebook and check tribal groups of middlebelt tribes has nothing to do with a regional group based on an agitation.
If you go to check an Igala group on facebook for instance. You will see Igalas of all religions and hometowns there. All Igalas know that they are Igalas and cherish the identity. So, it will be a good representation. So, please you have no point here.
If I make an assertion with facts, kindly refute it with facts as well. You cannot refute a good ethno-religious breakdown based on election results. That is poor.

Your lying to say Muslims take elections more serious than Christians, maybe in the south, but definitely not in KD.. we all have seen how pastors were daily instigating their members not to vote for El-rufai on a daily basis, to the point that El-rufai even said "even if I make pope my running mate, SK won't vote"... Ashiru kudan got 816, 234, while, El-rufai got 1,045,421, that's a margin of only 229,187!! Is this ur definition of not taking an election serious! .. Ashiru only got 22,022 in his LG(kudan), while he 87,542 in Zango kataf(a Christian dominated area), and you foolishly say Christians don't take election serious

Muslims bring out underaged children to vote in elections or do you also want me to prove this to you? I can show you. But can you ever show me any proof of underage christians voting? Abeg we know all these things.

I have shown you instances where muslims win elections in christian dominated areas, can you show me one place in the entire north where a christian won an election in a muslim majority area since 1999? I am talking of local politics and not presidency elections.

Muslims carry the blind, the lame, the deaf, the old and frail to go and vote, people are carried on wheelchair to vote. Should I show you the pictures? They are all over the internet. Can you show me that happening among christians?

These and more should clearly tell us the truth about who take elections more seriously.

Also, should we post the PVC collection list and Voters turn out list (against registered voters) and let us see who has the highest? Abegi. Stop deceiving yourself.

This is why I believe that other people have no business in sharing one country with Hausa fulanis. People who take elections more serious than education.

How can you say there are no kanuri in platue state and adamawa, I have a friend that is kanuri and from platue state.. it's clearly from this assertion that you don't know much about ur region. These people migrated centuries from Borno state

https://idonsabi.com/tribes-in-adamawa/&hl=en-NG

https://idonsabi.com/tribes-in-plateau/

Let's concentrate on KD now and leave Adamawa and taraba bcuz it's like we are derailing the topic in hand

Can you please mention the name of the Kanuri village or community in Plateau or Adamawa? What is the name of their district head or traditional ruler? That friend of yours must be one of the settlers in Jos who call themselves Jasawa.

If your friend said he was from Nasarawa state, then it is understandable, because we have the Kambaris of Lafia in Nasarawa state (who are descendants of Kanuri immigrants). They have been in Lafia for like 200 years now (more than 6 generations).

You see these LGAs? Askira-Uba, Chibok, Biu, Kwaya Kusar, Hawul, Gwoza, Shani. These are LGAs in Southern Borno which seperate Adamawa from Kanuri LGAs. These places I listed in Borno state do not even have Kanuri indigenes, let alone Adamawa state.

See, I am taking my time to type lengthy words, I don't want to waste it on ignorance. Go and make proper inquiries before you come here to make assertions abeg. I cannot be spoonfeeding your ignorance everywhere.

Kanuris are only found as indigenes in Borno north & Central + Damboa (Borno south), in Yobe north & central and in few LGAs in Jigawa and Bauchi north. Then the immigrants in Lafia. Chikena. Anywhere else you find them, they are not indigenes! Kajiko?

garfield1:
You have more hate even more than el rufai and other muslims you claim are evil.
Buhari had 40% in plateau in 2015 and having same in 2019 shouldn't raise eyebrows.mind you,his campaign crowd in plateau was the largest.

I once opened a topic here showing that there more muslim in taraba than christians,nobody could refute me.there are slightly more muslim in adamawa than christians

Buhari had 40% in Plateau in 2015 cos many people were tired of GEJ and most importantly people hated Jang too and wanted to pay him and PDP back for forcing a wrong candidate on the state. Many were also swayed with the CHANGE slogan.
Now, what reason does Buhari have to get 40% in 2019?

Anybody saying Taraba is predominantly muslim is the biggest joker there ever is

Apart from the Fulanis in the state who dominate only Gassol & Jalingo LGA, only the Wurukuns (where the APC gov candidate came from) who are like ⅓ of the population of Karim Lamido LGA have up to 80% muslim population.
Then you have the Jukun Jibu (Jibawa) who are the majority in Bali & Gashaka LGA and Chamba of Bali, both of whom are like 65% muslim each.
Besides these ethnic groups, no other ethnic group in Taraba state has a muslim majority.
Mambillas of Sardauna are 50/50.

Among the about 60 ethnic groups that make up Taraba, only 5 are predominantly muslim and you claim the state is majority muslim?
Muslims only have up to 30% in Taraba because Fulanis & Jibawa have large populations and also, many Hausa settlers have come to Taraba.

If the Jukun clans of Taraba south are seperated, then fulanis become the largest ethnic group in the state with like 15% of the states population.

Out of the 16 LGAs that make up Taraba state, muslims are only majority in 4 (Bali, Gassol, Ibi & Jalingo) where they make about 70% of the population in each.
Sardauna, Gashaka & Ardo Kola are a 50/50 while the remaining 9 are christian majority with some like Ussa, Zing, Takum & Donga being over 90% christian.
Wukari is the largest city in the state and muslims have been chased out of the town, they only live on the outskirts.
Do you know that the APC gov candidate did not even bother to go to most LGAs in Taraba south to campaign? Cos he is not sure of his life in those areas, let alone any single votes.

Taraba South is 90% christian. Completely owned by the Jukun clans with Tiv settlers and Hausa settlers in Ibi. Most fulanis have been completely chased out from here.

Taraba north is 70% christian. The Mumuyes who are mostly christian, majority in 2 LGAs and minority in 2 LGAs are the largest tribe here.
Followed by the Konas (Jukuns), majority in 2 and minority in 1. Then Fulanis, majority in 1 and minority in 2. Then all other dozens of tribes who are mostly christian except Wurukun.

Taraba central is 65% muslim. Jibawa the largest tribe here, majority in 2 LGAs followed by Fulanis, majority in 1 and minority in 1, then Mambilla and others. Jibawas are ⅔ muslim, fulanis are muslim, Mambillas are 50/50 and the other tribes are mostly christians.

All the 3 senatorial district have about equal populations cos Wukari the largest city is in the south. Jalingo the capital is in the north (with the most LGAs), while the central has 3 of the most populated LGAs among the top 5 in the state.

This is the breakdown of Taraba state. Now, do your arithmetic and tell me how Taraba can be muslim majority.

Adamawa has more muslims than Taraba. Adamawa is like 60-65% christian. And I can give you the breakdown if you want.

Cc alhassanyusuf29

BinDean:
You're burning with hate..you are living a miserable life full of hate & anger. If you don't make peace with yourself it will end painfully for you...you'll die with hate & the world will go on, Kaduna will go on, Elrufai & millions of his supporters & Arewa will go on. Your distress & extreme hate will do nothing to stop the wheel. It's been this way long before you & will continue long after you.. Ask yourself, 'is all this religious & ethnic none sense really worth it? If you are educated and read history: you are not the first, you won't be the last. Millions have come to hate, love or indifferent. Don't take it all personal, it's human nature to create enmity, division & fight bloody war among themselves. It's nevertheless your choice to love or hate, forgive or avenge, spread hatred or make peace. You are so full of hate it may destroy you and you won't be the first nor the last & life will continue like you never even existed.
Fear is the path of the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. Elrufai (2023) is the best performing Nigerian governor ever... I hope you will somehow make peace with yourself & Deal with it.. Whether you like it or not this is your reality, it's a fact. There's nothing you can do about it. Hate & hate all you want it won't change a thing, you are only beating yourself to a miserably sorry unfulfilled life. Good luck!

All you are saying is absolute Bullshit.
And who told you I am not happy? Go and tell that to the likes of Ango Abdullahi & Junaid Mohammed.

We all can see that with the way Nigeria is going, a breakup of the nation is not very far, unless things change. See the way IPOB is gaining momentum. Imagine if Northern minorities and Niger-deltans join in an agitation for seccession. Do you think Abuja can withstand it?

So, if you think your Arewa or one Nigeria where other ethnic groups are being marginalized will continue throughout your life time, you are only under delusion. Unless of course you wish to die prematurely.

Now is no longer 1967, when the whole of Nigeria were against the Igbos for demanding seccession. Now, everyone apart from the Hausa-fulanis are getting tired of Nigeria and some are demanding seccession and revolution.

No nation can be built on injustice and unfairness. Not especially a nation where half or more of the people are tired of the nation.

Can you see how your fellow Hausa, fulanis & Kanuris in Niger republic are living? That is exactly what your core-north would look like when the country divides.
The core north will even be worse than Niger republic, it would be more like Somalia.
A country where Fulani herdsmen, Boko haram, Bandits and Shiites would be left to self-destruct.

alhassanyusuf29:
There is nothing like ur people being passive, its not like you have a choice, your the minority even in ur region, so naturally you don't have a say in the scheme of things

It's funny how its only the likes of Joseph tarka, Jerry gana and other Christians giving statements on behalf of middle belt, making look like there are no muslimsbin north central.. is this how you want to agitate for referendum?

Among all the hundreds of ethnic groups in the North-central + Adamawa, Taraba, Southern Kaduna e.t.c. Tell me how many of them are predominantly muslim compared to those that are predominantly christian.

See, in the entire 19 northern/middlebelt states. Once you remove the Hausa, fulanis, Kanuris Shuwa Arabs and Hausanized Bauchi tribes. 95% of the remaining ethnic groups are predominantly christian or 50/50.

I dare you to disprove this.

alhassanyusuf29:
Hahaha its clear that ur far from reality, I could tell ur desperately clinging to straws, ur delusional bro.. referendum and independence is done by who wants to surperate and leave not on who wants to join, just like how the likes of south Sudan, USSR, Czechoslovakia, brexit etc

Referendum can only happen base on region and geographical area, e.g. SE/SS/MB/NW/NE/SW.. You can't bring a state from MB and merge it with SE, how do you draw the boundaries and map then?

On this case, your agitation has already been defeated, bcuz if referendum is going to be done by regions, you clearly don't have the numbers, population and influence to outnumber the other MB state, especially when we know it's going to be done by the influence of religion

Since when did nasarawa, eastern Niger, kebbi south etc agitate to leave the north!?!? I didn't know about this within all my stay in north, you most be making all these up

Anyway, even if it's true.. they don't have the clout to succeed

Referendum can be based on ethnic groups too!
Geopolitical zones are an artificial creation of yesterday. They are not in our constitution and hold no water.
In 1956, all northern minorities under the middlebelt umbrella requested for a unique independent region from the British before independence. The documents are still there. Mind you, by that time there was nothing like North-central or Northeast. From Borno south down to Zuru (Kebbi south) were considered as middlebelt.

Besides, when did I tell you that my people will vote in a referendum? I said we will allign with the South. How does that translate to a referendum?

All the areas I mentioned for you share boundary with one another and Nasarawa/Taraba share boundary with Benue state which has a massive boundary with SE & SS, so what exactly are you talking about?

You people just sit down to call places you do not know the demographic composition.

Do you think the Eggons, Mada, Migili, Nungu, Gbagyi in Nasarawa state are any different from their neighbours in Plateau or Southern Kaduna? Or you think because many Nasarawa people are muslims?

Let me burst your bubble. There are about 30 indigenous tribes in Nasarawa state and apart from the Hausa-fulani & Kanuri settlers in Nasarawa state, almost every other tribe in the state is predominantly christian or a 50/50.

Eastern Niger is owned by Gbagyis, Koros, Kamukus & Kadaras. All these tribes are also found in Southern Kaduna, Nasarawa & FCT and they are 60% christian. What do you think will seperate them from their brothers & sisters in neighbouring areas?

Kebbi south is dominated by the Lelna (Zuru or Dakarkari) and they are a predominantly christian people. They have always been part of Niger province right from colonial times, but they were wrongly removed and merged with Kebbi. They and the Kambaris & Dukawa of Eastern Niger north also share same cultures and values with the rest of us and will gladly join the rest of us in our struggle.

Very soon, you will know if we have the clout to succeed or not. Just wait for the unity of all these tribes under 1 umbrella.
The core-north only take all these tribes for granted because they are not united under one cause. The moment that comes, it is finished.

alhassanyusuf29:
Just bcuz your in kaduna south groups doesn't mean you know any better!! In fact going through your profile, you made a thread deprived from Facebook middle belt page on how "the middle belt have rejected APC/buhari and going to vote for PDP/atiku", it turned out, not that only APC/buhari won middle belt overwhelmingly , but even ur state of Benue significantly voted for Buhari.. that shows you guys are all mouth but no action, the way your people where commenting, one would have thought only Christians are living in MB

You call 2019 an election? An election were soldiers were used to rig all over?
An election were Buhari got 40% votes in Plateau state? Tell me which people would give Buhari such votes in Plateau in 2019 after all that has happen. Or have the Hausa fulanis in Jos suddenly become 40% of the state?
We all knew how useless this election was, but many do not care since it is a fulani vs fulani election.

I didnt contradict the fact that SK voted for Buhari, but we all know that 60% of the votes came from KN and KC

Suit yourself.

What perimeter and medium are you using to come up with these your statistics, you can't just keep throwing numbers and percentage without backing it up, everyone can come up with bogus claims, i need concrete evidence..we can't keep going back and forth

I know the demographics of most middlebelt states because I have been a leader in many regional groups affecting my people.
I travel a lot and learn from everyone I come across. And thank God we are now in an age of internet and social media. If I tell you this tribe is found here and here and are so so percentage christian/muslim, you are free to do your research
E.g If I tell you that Bwatiyes (Bachama, Mbula & Batta) are the 2nd largest ethnic group in Adamawa state and found in 4 LGAs and they are 95% christian. Here is one simple way you can verify this, go and search for the facebook groups of this ethnic groups, check through the profiles of the people you find in this group and you can see from their names alone and name of hometowns to know what religion they are and what towns they are from. Simple

We all know 2015 gubernatorial election was highly polarized religiously, using the election as case study, we could see El-rufai had won vividly and clearly in kaduna north and central, that's 14 out 23 LG.. we should note that this is a Muslim vs Muslim election, there is a likelihood that high percentage of Muslims voters voted for PDP(further diminishing the votes of APC) we can see a lot of Muslims voted for their son(ashiru kudan) in kudan LG, deducting more from overall Muslim pooulation.. so it is safe to say we can use the pulse of the election to gauge the percentage of religion in KD, how does it indicate that Christianity is half of the population base on medium I used?

all I see your doing m, is tactically through numbers and statistics to try to confus the audience, by beating around the bush... I use the election as my evidence, now u have to bring urs

Using politics to judge religious composition is a very very bad way to judge.
Muslims take elections far serious than christians in Nigeria. Go to the south during elections, most people don't come out of their houses. The missionaries who evangelized northern christians taught us that politics is a bad thing. We always say among ourselves that politics is a dirty game for the sinners and many abstain. Many people only started changing their views not too long ago when we saw how muslims play their politics with bigotry. Till now, many have not learnt their lessons and that is why all over the middlebelt, you see muslims who have emerged and are still emerging elected in areas that are predominantly christian. Just like Ibrahim Mantu who you mentioned, was elected a senator of Plateau central, a district with 80% christians. Or do you want to tell me that there are more muslims in Plateau central? I know this area very well. I am an indigene of Plateau state.

You don't need everybody's opinion our consultation, or you need is basic majority.. that's why his the governor, bcuz he had the majority on his side.. did Platue and taraba consult with everyone else before they did what they felt like.. it is very clear ur judgement is selective and subject, you castigate and condone what suits ur agenda

Muslims in Plateau are very small, but in Taraba where they are a significant minority, can you say what Taraba state govt have done against the wishes of it's significant minority?

Kaduna state is clearly a sharia state, and there is nothing you can do about it

You said "Immediately Katsina people left Kaduna state in 1987, a christian became the chairman of Kaduna LGA (indicating their majority)" , going with your logic, that means kaduna that has a Muslim as governor and 2 senators, that should imply that its a Muslim majority, just like how made ur claim.. do u know see how u indirectly admitted KD is Muslim majority base on ur own evidence?

Read what you wrote again, you are making no point.
Ok, here, let me help you. Why were christian dominated areas in old Kaduna LGA removed and added to Chikun LGA when old Kaduna LGA was divided into 2?
I'm sure you cannot answer this.

There are ample and significant number of hausa/fulani and Muslims in both taraba and Platue..Kanuri, Jakun, Miango, kwalla tribed all have a good number of Muslims in Platue state

Was Ibrahim Mantu not a Senator at a certain point, just like Christains only have 1 senator from a senatorial district in KD, so what's ur point? You keep making claims and contradicting yourself

you keep talking about facts but ur yet to validate you points with facts, ur points are more of a story telling just throwing imagination

Hahahaha, you do not anything about Plateau or Taraba state. There are no Kanuri indigenes of Adamawa state, let alone Taraba or Plateau state. Ask questions on what you don't know.

Among the about 50 ethnic groups that make up Plateau, Boghom, Bada/Jhar and Bashar (Yangkam) are the only muslim majority ethnic groups in Plateau state and they are not among the top 10 tribes in the state.
Jukun Kona, Afizere, Pyem (Ibrahim Mantu's tribe) & Kofyar (where Kwalla falls in) are about 30-50% muslim each. All but Jukun Kona are among the top 10 tribes in the state, but not top 5.
This is how you do an ethno-religious demographic breakdown.
Plateau state is 10-15% muslim without the Hausa settlers in Jos.
I can do that of Taraba for you if you ask nicely.

alhassanyusuf29:
The middle belt will never be with the south, not now not any day!! U seem to think the middle belt starts and ends with benue and Platue, its far from that bro!.we also have kogi, kwarra and Niger, who have always gone the northern way..it's funny whenever the middle belt issues statements, you will only see the likes of Joseph tarka, Jerry gana etc.. I have never heard a Muslim from the middle belt supporting them, are there no Muslims in middle belt? The last time I checked they are the majority in north central

If you think the middle belt will leave with the south, then u are highly mistaken, if there is a referendum, Muslims beign the majority will side with the core north any day, any time

whether pitch ur tend with the south or not, is insignificant and doesn't matter bcuz as minority in ur region, you don't have a say.. I would have been worried if IBB or abdulsalam had said they don't want to be with the north

Hahaha. When I say my people will unite with the south, do you think I am talking of a middlebelt?
I am only talking of the tribes of (Plateau Gurara Gongola) which includes the ethnic groups of Plateau, Nasarawa, FCT, Southern Kaduna, Eastern Niger and Kebbi south + Taraba, Adamawa, Southern Gombe, Southern Borno and parts of Bauchi south. We know ourselves and combined together we are 30 million people. We now have an umbrella forum which you people will be hearing of soon.

We can work with Benue people if they choose, meanwhile, Nupe (Niger), Ebira (Kogi) and Kwara people can decide to join Yoruba or Hausa if they like

By the time our people and the SE/SS unite under one struggle, we will know who the majority or minority truly is.
Wait for it, it is coming soon.
Hausa fulanis don't know that when you fight everyone, you succeed in uniting your enemies.

Steel plant worth $600m is being built in kagarko currently.. Can you share a link or proof how they rejected potato mill??.. Your not talking with an illiterate, you can't make something out of nothing and think ull not be challenged

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2019/05/2-banks-to-fund-steel-plant-with-600m-in-kaduna/amp/

last but not the least, El-rufai doesn't need anyone's suggestion or opinion on what to do or run his state, he is unapologetic and blunt to the core and nobody can do anything about it.. we the majority in KD love and cherish him.. just go Tony is page on Twitter and see how people are signing his praises on a daily basis

Hitler was once cherished, praised and loved by his people. But go to Germany and mention his name today.
Wise people learn from the mistakes of others.

alhassanyusuf29:
Many SK supported him, but that doesn't necessary mean the ethnic Christian majority from SK voted for him, we all know there are significant Muslims in kagarko, kaura, kachia etc these are the people that voted him in SK.. we all know SO has always been PDP till today, so stop trying to portray like overwhelmingly voted for him, hence the reason the reason he said they barely gave him 30%, that he can do without them

They withdrew their votes and he still won, that shows u that they are truly 30%.. I don't see any reason he should appeal to them, u can only do that if ur negotiating on a weak point, El-rufaI is bold and none apologetic, that's what the SK hated about him, he didn't try to sugar coat or be politically correct in his dealing, but above that, he still gave SK their fair share of dealings

When you don't know something, don't argue.
I am in Southern Kaduna groups and in 2015 about half of Southern Kaduna christians were supporting Elrufai. Go and find out.

Muslims in the entire Kaduna South senatorial district are not more than 15%, so there is no way they can deliver such huge number of votes without christian support.

You are talking about muslims in Southern Kaduna, Oh! Are there no christians in Northern Kaduna? Are there no indigenous christians all over Kubau, Zaria, Birnin Gwari, Igabi, Makarfi e.t.c?
Lere LGA is in Kaduna north and it is 50/50 or even majority christians.
Show me one LGA in Kaduna south with muslim majority or even 50/50. Rubbish

There are significant number of Muslims in kachia, so I don't see what's wrong in having an emir that can coordinate and navigate the affairs of hausa/fulani/Muslims in there, Zangon kataf is overwhelmingly kataf/Christian majority, it won't be logically possible to have an emir just like how can't have one in SE, unless ur looking for trouble

Kachia has no large muslim population apart from the Hausa fulani settlers in the town. Don't forget that Zangon-Kataf used to have the same muslim settlers in their towns too until they chased all of them away. So, you have no point here.
Your only point is that Adara people failed to chase away the Hausa settlers in their towns when the Katafs & Bajjus were doing theirs, today they are paying for it.

Lol. It's pathetic and delusional in trying to portray Markafi begging for peace during the sharia crisis as weakness or cowardless, as a governor and leader of a state, its only rational for him to do that, or did u expect him to come on TV and tell them to continue killing themselves? The last time I checked, KD is still a sharia state and there is nothing SK or anyone else can do about it

It was weakness, otherwise, why didn't he consult everybody in the state before starting such? He did not expect the kind of retaliation he got. Sharia state my foot. Bauchi christians also protested sharia law in their state but truly because they are a small minority, they were ignored.

Hahaha you said "Christian are half of the population" , that's a blatant lie and the biggest myth you guys feed on to redeem urself from extreme "inferiority complex".. we have 23 LG in KD and Christians are only majority and domicile in:

Kajuru
Kaura
Kachia
Kagarko
Zangon kataf
Chikun
Jaba
Jeme'a

Note: these LG are not even overwhelming Christian majority as kagarko and jeme'a have significant number of Muslims, so I wonder where u got ur bogus claim that Christians are half of KD majority

I can see that out of your stark ignorance, you did not even include Sanga LGA among the christian majority areas. Since when did muslim become the majority there? Or you think Gwantu is now the same thing as the whole Sanga LGA?
Also, excluding Kauru too?. So the muslims who are only in Kauru town have now made the entire LGA muslim majority?

Kaduna south LGA is only slightly muslim majority because of the politics that removed christian areas like Sabon Tasha and added them to Chikun LGA.
Why did they do that if not fear? Immediately Katsina people left Kaduna state in 1987, a christian became the chairman of Kaduna LGA (indicating their majority) and they had to divide the LGA and re-arrange everything.

Point of correction before you mislead the public.
Kaduna has 23 LGAs. 10 are majority christian, 11 are majority muslim and 2 (Lere & Kaduna south) are almost 50/50.
Anything other than this is a stupid lie.

Why is it when middle beltans are talking, they always and only refer to SK not KD in general, that's bcuz Christians are majority in only SK

If you were smart, you would have known that Southern Kadunas are considered middlebelters because they are tribal ethnic groups and not Hausa-fulanis. There are Hausa christians all over Zaria, but are they middlebelters? no. Common sense.

I brought Gombe state, but you technically and smartly left out Platue and Arabs which have significant number of Muslims, without a deputy governor.. is it only wrong when it's not in ur favour?

The problem with you people is that you use the population of Hausa settlers in a town and use it to judge the religious percentage of an entire state or LGA where there are dozens and hundreds of other communities.
Foolish people have sat down to conclude that Plateau state has a significant muslim population because of Hausa settlers in Jos

Here is a better way to know the religious percentage of a place.
Ask yourself. Among all the ethnic groups that make up Plateau state, how many are predominantly muslim?

This is how I tell muslims that Nasarawa & Adamawa have a christian majority, they argue. And I ask them a simple question.
'Among all the ethnic groups in Adamawa, how many have a muslim majority population?'. They may keep shut or still say that 'Fulanis are the majority in the state and are predominantly muslim', and I ask them to list the LGAs that Fulani communities dominate, they cannot.

I am not the person that just pull statistics from nowhere like an illiterate. I will give you the ethnic and religious breakdown of every council wards, towns, local govt concils and constituencies to prove my point to you! Just like I have shown you that of Kaduna above. And if you still insist on arguing I will disgrace you with facts.

Only an idiot will compare Kaduna where christians have majority in many LGAs and an entire senatorial district, with Plateau state where muslims have majority in only 2 LGAs and Jos where many of them are settlers and not indigenes.

Cutezt:
Op don't try this thing o, I am a proper Berom man from jos north local government and I can tell you for free that Plateau should be amongst the last 10 states to hustle in Nigeria, well, except you want to go into food market, or cultisim, or building new clubs and trending bars for parties and alcohol, else, nothing dey o

Before the crisis, Jos was partly a hussling place.
However, it is still considered so because of the large urban area of Jos.
Jos is among the top 10 largest urban centers in Nigeria and this is what gives it it's edge. Large urban areas are always a place to hussle if you are innovative.

midnighter:
Insurgency has ruined Those places but they had strong points in the past

I have never heard of Imo being known for hustling, to my knowledge most of the people there work in government or in public institutions

Insurgency has ruined Jos & Kaduna? Do you know what you are saying?

MrHistorian:
I personally feel that the original writer (OP) chooses to make the list compensatory for less developed regions of Nigeria.

I honestly see no reason why Plateau and Kaduna feature over Imo state.

Imo is nowhere near Kaduna please. After Kano in the north, Kaduna comes 2nd. Many industries are in Kaduna.
Jos before the crisis was also blossoming and ahead of Imo, but now I don't think so.

However, Jos & Kaduna are very large cities with over 2 million people each. This creates a large urban market that is good for hussling. Owerri is a smaller city compared to those 2.

TemmyT002:
Bros, every human being is a pretender.

But some are worse than others. The likes of JW and Deeper life who act like Saints and Angels outside and worse than the Devil on the inside. The Pharisees!

omenka:
Dodorima1, you see?

This one na confam juvenile oboté.

If I am a juvenile, you are a suckling cos I am far better than you who spend all your life on APC/PDP issue and being paid 30k every month for defending a bunch of clueless people.

oilPUSSY:
Sometimes I wonder why some of your people are so docile watching these clowns deceiving themselves by projecting fake identity on Nairaland...No person Will claim Igbo on Nairaland to play a funny game without being boxed out within a short period of time.. Many people have tried it, they failed and they gave up..


Meanwhile, we still have an unfinished business based on what you told me which mod was busy deleting... (I Will still contact you to learn more)
Time factor is my problem. I hardly come online unlike bf.

Our people are naturally a passive people and that is one big problem we have. I wish we were more vociferous and loud like the Igbos, then idíots who misrepresnt us here wouldn't have had the chance.

omenka:
This one is almost blowing his own brains out screaming like someone who lost his gratuity, begging for omenkas attention. Let me give you a little attention before you lost your mind completely.

Here's your attention.

Now, if I am not from Benue but lying that I am, may I die prematurely before nightfall TODAY.

If I am indeed from Benue and you're the one making a false claim I am not, may that fate befall you before nightfall TODAY.

I say AMEN. Can I see you write a simple AMEN, without going on writing another lengthy gibberish?

Just say, AMEN as I have done and move on.

Paul Unongo who licked hausa fulani ass for a decade is a confirmed Tiv man.
If you are from Benue, it is either you are a muslim or have hausa fulani origins or you are being paid for your activities just like Unongo.

Even Jesus had a Judas.
However, as long as your views do not respresent the majority of Benue people, I will continue to hunt you.

Sholaco:
Abegy! I believe this is igbo woman from a Christian family and you as an Adamawa man with your look, you are a Muslim....and I put it to you that never will your people (Muslim) allow a Christian man from anambra to man a fulani lady. South,western part of Nigeria are tolerance unlike you people in the north

Adamawa is a christian dominated state and there is every chance that the man in question is a christian.
Northern christians and Southerners intermarriage is very very common.

Chukapage:
lmao this one don divide Igbos according to his IMAGINERY St**pidity. What of "Lagos Igbos" even "Ibadan Igbos" and didn't you see my subsequent posts about IGBOS men being more comfortable with our Eastern neighbors the Ijaws,Annag, Ogoni,Calabar etc. you even had to put "Enugu Igbos" oga your divide and rule tactics on IGBOS is dead and STALE!! We keep bursting your useless propagandas

Unfortunate for a mugu like you. I am even one of the advocates for Delta Igbos to claim Igbo identity. Check my comments and see that people accuse me to be Igbo on nairaland because I support Igbos in many things. I can show you if you want to see.

I only divided Igbos in this scenario because Igbo is a nation of different tribes. Aniomas, Ikwerres, Nsukkas, Mbaises, Afikpos, Ngwas e.t.c may all be Igbos, but they don't behave the same way, same thing among the Yorubas.

For example, Ondo yorubas marry Edos a lot cos they are neighbours, while Kwara yorubas intermarry Hausa fulanis, Nupes and other northern tribes a lot, because they are neighbours.

How do you in your small myopic head think that Aniomas will not marry Edos/Urhobos when they are neighbours? And have been neighbours for centuries? Likewise Nsukka people and Igalas/Idomas?
Same way Abia, Imo & Rivers Igbo people intermarry their Efik-Ibibio, Ogoni & Ijaw neighbours while Ebonyi & Ogoja people have theirs.
If you cannot understand this simple logic, then you are hopeless!

Kennyswagz1:
oga talk wetin you know.. i dey edo state now

I did my university in Uniben. I was born and bred in Warri and lived 7 years in Benin. One of my brothers tenants is a Bini married to an Agbor woman. Same in my former compound in Warri, I had a Bini man neighbour married to an Enuani woman. Also an Enuani man married to an Esan woman. I also have a relatives friend, a Bini married to a Delta Igbo this year.
It is everywhere in Benin. Delta Igbos and Edos/Urhobos intermarry a lot! They are neighbours! How do you stop neighbours from intermarrying? Do you even know what you are saying?

TemmyT002:
You seem to have a lot of hatred for them.
You call them a cult. Do you know that after Jesus ascended, his disciples were called cult members too?
Anyway, your comment doesn't really portray you as a Christian, I am sorry to say.

See, you couldn't even deny my facts against them. Cos they are true. Oga, they are just pretenders. Of what use is 3 good accompanied with 3 greater evils?

Ategberoson:
it pained me till date, na Hausa/Fulani girls I never date to complete one Nigeria stuff, perhaps because I'm uncomfortable to visit their region but I surely want to know how romantic those Hausa/Fulani ladies are. I guess it's lost gone



I'm an advocate of intra tribal, intertribal and interracial marriage. so I endorsed this marriage


may you guys have fruitful marriage in your lifetime

You can hardly find clean classy Hausa fulani girls in the South. The closest is Abuja. They are very many there.

Kennyswagz1:
only esan and Igarra intermarry with igbos... intermarriage between igbo and bini is extremely low... bini tend to marry their selves or other edoid tribes and yoruba

Differentiate South east Igbos and Delta Igbos. Binis marry Delta Igbos like nonsense.