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When will they start work on the Onitsha-Enugu quagmire?

Hallelluia! 5 years after the protests, first conviction coming in. When shall they do the sentencing and how long shall they be lodged for?

Has the money also been retrieved from them?

Where is the company being relocated to?... This info is scanty.

Once their bread is not buttered anymore, they quickly and smoothly switch over to the party that is most maligned as anti-SE, anti-Igbo and even anti-humanity. And if you check, some of these politicians decamping liesurely today may have once been champions of the gospel of 'apc is evil.'

Meanwhile it's the gullible supporters I still pity, the gullible zombified supporters who still believe there is really a difference between apc and pdp.

Gbam..

ShakaZullu:


Buhari is a terrorist
apc is a bokoharam
Tinubu is a bastard
Osibanjo is a vagabond
Elrufai is a midget
Obasanjo is a monkey
lair Muhammed is a charlatan
Amaechi is a thief
Oshiomole is a scallywag
kwankwaso is a cow
Ambode is a clown
Aregbesola is a nincompoop
Fashola is a hooligan
oyegun is a vulture
obaseki is a failure
ngige is a fool
Igbokwe is a goat
Oby is a concubine
rochas is crook
orji Kalu is a criminal
Ifeanyi ubah is a joker
femi adesina is a skunk

Thunder scatter Buhari Insha'Allah amin

good morning people

Something you failed to add, he's still your ffucking president.

A beggar has no choice...

When would these politician bokohatam members be finally uncovered?... You cant tell me these people are ghosts.

[quote author=onexile post=52716808][/quote]What kind of barbarism is that?... mutilating a baby?... God help Africa.

RZArecta:
How can you award a contract that had already been awarded long ago These APC people sha, their madness is fully baked

Obj at some point also awarded this contract; same way he awarded contracts for benin-sagamu road, lagos-ibadan road, ph-enugu road and onitsha-enugu road. Similarly, obj also awarded the contract for the recently completed abuja-kaduna rail, but still, all these contracts were awarded again by his predecessors.

Rapmaestro:
She Is not my type of beautiful sha

A very euphemistic way to say "she nor fine reach"

Needlessly bullying some poor policemen just standing peacefully on their own and doing their job, I'm not sure how this is supposed to be a sign of bravery or maturity.

Few people doing the drinking for everyone else.

Na wa for reasoning oo... So because the man is a pastor his entire generation should live in a gutter?

blues20:
You just lost my respect... one of the most respected brain on this forum...This is not abut APC, but Fulani's herdsmen problem; but your subconscious encoded with APC propaganda, is bringing it up on a topic that is not related to them.

How on earth did I bring up Apc on this thread?

When there is a cancerous growth and it is not treated, the only natural thing is for it to fester and get worse. From when I was an infant back in the days, fulani herdsmen have always been on rampage with their little daggers and their bigger knives with which they carelessly snuff out life from innocent people. The fear of 'mallams' and their daggers used to be wisdom back in the days. Unfortunately, nothing was done by any leader to stem the tide.

Subsequently, we started having full blown religious crises with these same herdsmen running down entire communities leaving death and destruction in their wake; it's a recurring factor in southern Kaduna, it's a recurring factor in the Plateau, Taraba and Benue. But no single leader did anything about it and no one was blamed. And like I said earlier, when cancer isn't treated, it festers.

Today the same old cancer which has never been attended to is still festering, but instead of brainstorming or suggesting ways to end this scourge once and for all, everyone here seems to feel more comfortable with politicising this into 2015 elections by claiming it was brought upon by buhari; I sit everyday with not-so-smart people spitting on my face telling me the herdsmen menace is happening because people like me supported a buhari to be president.

Go back and take a close look at this thread from start to finish, also visit other threads that have featured herdsmen and tell me honestly that I am the one who is myopically politicising this age long problem? If you can do that and prove I am guilty, then I would accept your reproach of me being petty.

AmadiAba:
What shit are u talking about?

Our boss dont do propaganda biko.

Haha!

blues20:
Dude what is wrong with you? Are you the only APC supporter on this forum

How is that your fvucking problem?... Must I hate what you hate before you learn to mind you fvckuing business?... Get lost!!

Sharp man... propaganda sells for sure... especially when the population of listening dumbos is large.

talktonase:
An eye for an eye is gradually bringing this country down to its knees! I guess that is what bubu wants...

On the contrary, it's actually the deep hatred for Bubu (especially because he occupies the exalted seat) that is fuelling all these crisis.

mnairaland:
Pardon my intrusion.The lady that said to exclude logic is somehow right. Using law of motion to explain ecnomics is definitely improper.
I am no economics but it appears to me that your argument is more based on logic that academics. Logic apart, you have proved nothing.Please I am not biased.

Your chart shows clearly that there was a decline; and , yes, if not arrested a decline can lead to a recession.I do believe that if good policies were deployed the decline could be arrested.

I enjoyed you argument, but as it stands, as an unbiased observer, I give it to those ladies.

Initially I was on your side due to the quality of your arguement, but immediately that lady said logic should be laid aside, all your weighty points fell down before me like a pack of cards.

Nonetheless, I must say that yours is one of the best arguement I have read here, but sentiments and bias apart. Those ladies eventually did a better job.They eventually got me to their side.I am more convinced from their counters that Buhari paved the way for recession.

Apologies if my use of simple engineering terms to explain economics doesnt sound appealing to you; but I am an engineer and it's typical in my nature to give examples using simple everyday physics. Regarding the long banters, the simple point I have struggled to explain to those 2 people all day is that the economy was already in a downward drop before Buhari came to power (unfortunately even Buhari's coming to power couldn't stop the fall and we dropped further into the recession zone). Whats too difficult to understand in that?

I dropped very simple charts to prove my point but apparently, the simple line charts were too complex for some folks to comprehend and they still insist the economy only dropped when Buhari assumed office. What more can I say to such?... Hence I just gave up and left the convo...

Pavarottii:
Don't try and be smart here, don't be doing mid this and mid that. Wen u analyse; analyse for the whole year. Economy good at 2014; GEJ was in charge; Economy bad at d end of 2015; pMb in charge; economy was still steady at as even mid 2015. So wat r u saying and price of crude at that mid 2015 is almost the price of crude now. So wats ur point.
Buhari is a total failure. Accept it.

Apologies if the discussion is too complex for your comprehension.

TANTUMERGO007:
when you got nothing to say in favour of your oga bu ha ri

Funny thing is, if you go back and check my history on this forum, you will realise that I'm more of an anti-GEJ/anti-GEJ-zombies than a pro-Buhari praise singer. The day the gej-is-god-zombies begin to realise that his admin was just a huge pile of poo, that day I would be rendered dumb on the political section of this forum.

..And he suddenly becomes a saint in the eyes of the pdpians/jonathanians/ipobians

BraniacX:
Save your logic for yourself and leave this discussion academic, you brought a table for economic growth compared with oil prices, look back to mid 2011 2nd quarter when there was a sharp dip in oil prices and check our economic growth back then and compare with now!

You float your logic of tripping before falling but by your tables our economy wasn't tripping or falling from 2015 1st quarter to hand over period, even after handover the economy was still steady for a brief period so where do you get your unflattering logic from? Is it from the fall in oil price? Compare that to 2nd quarter 2011 when our economy was even much stronger than what was obtained in 1st quarter 2015 as reference, and before you blame oil price, what other capitalist oil producer is undergoing recession right now? (Don't border bringing up venezuela because you and i know socialism and populism destroyed venezuela's economics before the oil price plunge).
The tripping and falling a.k.a steady decline into recession all took place within buhari's administration alone and your charts alone show that much so stop trying to rationalise the irrational especially after your campaign rhetoric you came highly recommended as the panacea to all ills

Bring a different argument! This one doesn't fly

Firstly, I can you kindly remind us or give details of this 'sharp drop' in oil prices in 2011 which you talk about?... By how much was this drop and for how long did it last as compared to the present drop which has lasted close to 3 straight years?.. This is even inconsequential.

I've just put up another extract of Nigeria's GDP growth rate between mid-2014 and mid-2015 (see below); for you and your friend (luvinhubby) to continuously insist even with your eyes wide open that you cannot see the Nigeria's growth rate was dropping prior to May 29th 2015, for you guys to continuously insist that the drop only occurred after Buhari took over, for you to continuously insist that the only thing which matters is when it crossed the 'zero' line, then I give up. There is absolutely no point engaging you further, I'm out! Congrats to you both, You win!

cc: luvinhubby

Guyman02:
Comments like the above was what destroyed Ajaokuta, the Western countries and their IMF/World Bank who were in a cold war with the Soviet Union who built the Ajaokuta Steel Mill advised Nigeria to rather buy cheap steel from places like Australia instead of spending more money to fully complete it and let the Russians have a foothold in Nigeria, our military rulers who did not understand much of international politics quickly bought their idea and get the project in a comatose situation.
The coupists failed to consider the long term benefits of having a vibrant steel industry, now another ignoramus here is advising us again to go to China and buy cheap steel again. The thunder wey go fire you still dey wear singlet.

You are quite right, even if it's cheaper outside, reviving our steel industry would get many people employed, the deserted town of Ajaokuta would become revived and also become an economic city, and with some years of experience in steel production, we would also learn to produce cheap steel too. After all the Chinese who produce cheap steel don't have 2 heads, besides, we also have cheap labour in Nigeria just like China.

Horlawoomey:
The company is located in the Town called Ajaokuta in Kogi state.

The kind of questions some people ask thoug

Horlawoomey:
The company is located in the Town called Ajaokuta in Kogi state.

The kind of questions some people ask though

luvinhubby:
Crude accounts for 16% of our GDP, other sectors account for 85%. Crude had sold for far less at different points in the last 20yrs in this country, but never has our economy and currency being this badly battered.
Buhari's policies killed the interest of investors in our economy while provoking those already here to pack up and leave. Until you acknowledge the CAUSE of a problem, you will NEVER find it's solution.

Every single time crude prixe dropped greatly, Nigeria's gdp growth rate also dropped proportionately.

The last time we had a major dip in oil prices was in 2008 2Q and Nigeria's geowth rate also dropped despite the fact that the massive saved funds courtesy of OBJ/Yaradua was deployed at that time to counter the oil income drop. Something else you cannot wish away is the fact that the last oil price drop of 2008 lasted only 6 months compared to the present one which is heading to 3 years now. It's also instructive to note that the CBN spent $20billion between 2008 2Q to 2009 1Q to kee lp us away from recession.

Also the CBN had already spent $10billion between November 2014 to May 2015 to balance the effect of the oil income drop during thw last days of GEJ, but despite that, we still had our growth rate take a major dip and Naira value also crashing. As at the time Buhari took over, there was barely $28.6 billion in foreign reserves and it would have been stupid to maintain the trend of spending $10billion to maintain balance the economy because we had basically run out of savings.

I can give you links and charts to prove every single figure I just posted here, but I guess it would be useless to you because you couldn't even differentiate between 'slow growth' and 'slowing down growth.'

luvinhubby:
Your chart shows a slowed down growth and not a negative, there is a difference between slowing down, decelerate, taking your feet off the gas pedal and REVERSE gear.
The economy slowed down under GEJ and went into a reverse under Buhari and your chart simply says so.
Why blame a GEJ for a reverse mode engaged by Buhari on the economy?

Still refering to your chart, which part of it dipped into negative indices under GEJ?
If Buhari was not able to build on what he met, at least leave as it was and not to make himself the supervising undertaker of the burial of Nigeria's economy.

Seeing that the growth rate was steadily dropping, it was only a matter of time before it would have hit the zero line, even a child could see a steady drop from the chart but you and your friend BraniacX claim you see a flat horizontal line when GEJ was president and then it dipped only when Buhari took over.

Your insistence that because it only hit the zero line after Buhari became president and so therefore it is only Buhari's fault, that is nothing other than a childish argument (I'm sorry). I know you are an adult so the only explanation to this your stance is that you are feigning ignorance in order to have what to say. It is pointless engaging you further.

luvinhubby:
The indices slowed down but never went into a reverse mode.
A driver took control of a vehicle going North at a slowed down speed and instead of maintaining the motion he met, engages the vehicle in the reverse gear and heads down South has nobody but himself to blame for the act of reverse gear that changed the vehicle direction.
Your chart says so of Buhari.

Did you say 'slowed down speed'?... Take a second look at that chart and tell me you do not know the difference between 'slow speed' and 'slowing down speed'?... Do you know the meaning of the word 'decelerate'?... If you dont, take a look one more time at that gdp growth rate chart and tell me it is a 'steady' horizontal line your eyes see between 2Q 2014 and 2Q 2015 as you keep claiming and then I would know you do not deserve a further response from any normal person.

Obviously the only way you can have something to say over this is by continuously feigning ignorance of the simple info that chart exposes.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/4178677_gdpvscrudeprice2_jpegc5856f214a58ffdca179aefcd84d6ffd

Everything in Nigeria must be subject to the north-south dichotomy. Nigeria na wa!