₦airaland Forum

JohnnA1:
Another VICTIM MENTALITY thread!

You call it victim mentality because you know it is true nature of Nigeria, packing people like sardine in one state of Nigeria because of fear of SE region to develop.

yoruboid:
Seaport when there’s no SE state contiguous with the sea?

You have Onne and Calabar Ports which are functional

Enugu Airport is an international airport just like Lagos airport is

What exactly is your problem with comprehension?

Use what you have like the rest of the country has

Is a big lie, Onne and Calabar Ports is not working, there no commercial activities there, only oil companies use Onne ports. Enugu Airport doesn’t operate international flights without stopping in Lagos or Abuja.

If River Niger was to be in the north which is not too far from the sea, they would have dredge it to sea with oil money to be receiving big ships, you and I know that one, let’s stop lying to ourselves.

South Eastern Nigeria is totally locked up by joint corroboration between Southwest and the North and then turn around and blame people for flocking to Lagos the former capital of Nigeria developed with oil money.

No functional international airport or Seaport in the east. No FG presence. Everything in concentrated in Lagos and the North.

I wonder why you will seize everything to yourself and turn around to say people are coming to Lagos where you keep everything.

In the whole world, what defines you as a person is the language you speak and when you are indigenous to that language without colonialism then you belong to that particular tribe. For example, someone from some part of Togo who they call their language ife or Ewe which is a Yoruba dialect can say they are not Yorubas but in reality the language they speak is the same with the Yorubas of Nigeria, so wether they are not Yorubas their language is the same with Yorubas. They hear each other without any difficulties.

So for Ikwerres, Igbankes in Edo and Aniomas, them and the Igbos speak the same language and hear each other. So whether they are Igbos or not, they are from the same language heritage and speak the same language with variations which they call dialects.

Schlumeinstein:
NIgER DELTA, ibibios,binis,ijawas,orons,kalabiris etc ARE SOLIDLY BEHIND PROTECTING OUR BROTHER IKWERRE or any part of us being threatened..................OUR SLOGAN..
......NIGER DELTANS.........." ONE TONGUE,,MANY LANGUAGES...".

Continue your stupidity, language defines who you are, Ikwerre is Igbo dialect forever unless if they will invite Bini people to teach them Bini language and then drop their Ikwerre Igbo dialect.

Schlumeinstein:
Ikwerres do not speak igbo ....we Niger deltans will defend EVERYPART of our land....Even OJUKWU cannot succeed it..

Who is interested in your land, let’s assume you have Niger Delta Republic, Ikwerre and Anioma will remain Igbos in your country as language they speak is Igbo dialect. There are indigenous Igbos in Cameroon and Equatorial Guinea, does been in those countries make them not to be Igbo or Yorubas indigenous to Cotonu or Togo are not Yorubas again.

chrisxxx:
This symbolizes how stupid you are.
You haven't given an answer to igbo word for YES.
America or Britain who earns English Language?
Which of them has a higher population?
Isoma ma ha.

You more stupid here, you can’t even differentiate between colonialism and indigenous languages. Is English indigenous to Americans.

Igbo word for yes is even your Ikwerre.

Eriokanmi:
You don't get my point at all. When rivers politicians tell you they're not ibo, that they're from rivers despite the obvious in their names, that's politics. They're ibos. Imagine wike saying he's not ibo that rivers aren't ibo or biafra, isn't that a joke? Deep down his throat, he knows he's ibo but for political relevance, he's denying his roots.

Same goes to amaechi when he was in politics. He had said it several times that he's not ibo meanwhile he's from the Igbo speaking tribe. But he's saying that for political relevance. The majority of rovers people speak Igbo. Hope you got my point clearly now.

Imagine itsekiri people saying they're not yoruba when they knew they migrated from our land. If an itsekiri person speaks,.I can clearly understand. That's what I'm saying.

The correct spelling of Igbo is Igbo not Ibo, stop typing British giving name of Ibo removing the g sound in Igbo.

chrisxxx:
That is perfect description of you people who came all the way from Israel. Amaechi is it an Israeli name?
You came stole and language and turn around that the original owner of the language copied your language.
We have been asking this question: what is Igbo word for YES? You couldn't copy this.

You are saying rubbish, there is no part of world where humans copy language. Your indigenous language defines who you are. Ikwerre speaks Igbo dialect and Igbo people didn’t copy any language from Ikwerre 2 local government of population that is not upto 2 million people and Igbo population of more than 50 million cannot copy language from minority.

nedekid:
It seems they have igbo roots. My aunty is ikwerre and speaks igbo fluently, also her native language that seems to have some igbo in it. My paddy maxi orlu okey is also ikwerre and speaks both igbo and the other native language discribed earlier.

Their language Ikwerre language is a dialect of Igbo language, it is wrong to say their language have some Igbo in it. Everything that Ikwere is speaking is Igbo but for political reasons some are denying not being Igbo. Other Igbo language spoken in different dialects include Anioma in Delta ( Ika, Ibuzor,Enuani,Ukwuani, Asaba, Igbanke in Edo State). Every central Igbo person hear what they say and they also hear central Igbo without any difficulties.

Nigeria should be regionalised so that other states can also develop like Lagos. As it stands now in Nigeria, Lagos is taking other states resources, Lagos have oil headquarters that belong to other states, have seaports and international airports and block others from having through federal might. Bank headquarters in Lagos. All VAT paid to Lagos.

For some Yorubas this is right because it benefit them, that is why Nigeria is not working. Let’s every state and regions be given equal opportunity to thrive not only one state taken it all.

Gowon is the cause of the civil war, he signed Aburi peace agreement and refused to honour it.

How many entourage of European countries government come to Nigeria for jamboree and waste tax payers money

Casham:
All Abrahamic religions do/did that at one point. These religions are built on radicalism. This is why Marx said "Religion is the opiate of the masses." People will justify anything as long as you mention "God".


SLAVES!

Yes offcourse but the argument is why is Muslims only religion in this modern world that is still killing people for ordinary insult to their prophet Mohammed. Can’t they stop that barbarism, it shows they are fighting for their god.

MaxInDHouse:
Are you sure Catholics changed?

Please which of the churches occupy Russia and Ukraine claiming Christians?

What exactly are they killing their neighbors for?

Muslims are fighting as politicians among them are using them to gain power not religion just as Ukrainians and Russians are fighting for politicians among them.
The truth of the matter is that Muslims are easily brainwashed to start fighting once they are called to do it for religion but their folly becomes obvious when Muslim nations starts fighting each other like Russia and Ukraine.
Please to who will those fighting pray before going to kill their fellow worshipers?

Can we tell ourselves the truth, war in Russia is political war not about religion. Christians don’t kill for their religion again, you know that if you want to be sincere. The only religion in world that still kill people for blasphemy against their prophet Mohammad is Islam. No other religion kill anyone for insulting their prophet.

MaxInDHouse:
It's POLITICS!

The Catholic Church started it after the death of Christ's apostles and they were killing those who says anything against the church, Bible, Cross or Trinity.
That's what Muhammad thought is right since the Catholics the only religion professing faith in the Almighty God in his time were doing.

But Catholics have changed since time immemorial why can’t Muslims change in this modern time.

madridguy:
We won't allow any insult towards our beloved prophet.

Please can you explain the reason why you guys go to the extent of killing the person. Why not beating the person or any punishment that will not injure the person.

The problem of Islam is always killing for their Allah and prophet Mohammed, infact Mohammad is the god of Islam because if someone insult prophet Mohammad Moslems will kill that person.

By the lifestyle of Prophet Mohammed recorded in the Hadiths with all the atrocities he committed against humanity, if Mohammed make heaven then no human being deserves to go to hell.

Pls why is the religion like that, can someone defend the reason why these killings is justified.

The problem of Islam is always killing for their Allah and prophet Mohammed, infact Mohammad is the god of Islam because if someone insult Mohammad Moslems will kill that person.

By the lifestyle of Prophet Mohammed recorded in the Hadiths with all the atrocities he committed against humanity, if Mohammed make heaven then no human being deserves to go to hell.

Drama continues

peterincredible:
bros no need 4 that abeg my own be say the west to dey different but they have to come together we too have to come together whether na Igbo we go call am or any other name it doesn't matter we just have to unite for our survival in Nigeria or even if Nigeria divide because we have a lot in common and the west and north just luv to see us divided when we where all united we where doing really good we need to unite that is all no challenge hin ika tin u go dey make am feel as if hin no know wetin hin dey talk i hope u grab

Well said, I grab it, what we are saying is not that their language is Igbo but that Ika is the same language in Igbo unity term as various dialects is under Yoruba umbrella but Ika people is free to maintain that Ika is Ika but not saying that it is a different language or not related to Igbo.

ehikwe22:
Quit lying to yourself. The only place an average South Easterner "hear" Ika is on the internet.

Talking about intelligibility, do you understand either catalan or Spanish? If no, how do you know they're completely different?

If you don't understand both, what would be your next duty? Internet right ?

Google wether catalon and Spanish are mutually intelligible and get back to me here.

Can we show a practical reality of who is lying here, speak something in Ika, a short story and record it, then post it here let’s see if your Ika you speak is not Igbo.

Let everyone judge your Ika language that you claim is not Igbo.

ehikwe22:
Mr. It's not an Igbo word. A lot of what you call Igbo today were borrowed from Ika and Ika borrowed from Igbo. It's normal for a minority group contiguous with a majority group to be influenced more but that doesn't erase their identity

You guys in South East seems to be very ignorant about what a language and dialect. The fact is, there is absolutely no difference between a language and dialect. The difference between a language and dialect is 100% political all across the world. Even some other factors that are considered are influenced by politics. Catalonia are deep inside Spain but they don't want to be Spanish anymore so they named their language Catalonian. Do you think Catalonia is not intelligible with Spanish?

I can give you a million examples

Catalan language is clearly distinct from Spanish, as a Spanish person can’t hear or understand Catalan language, however in the case of Ika vs Igbo, Ika is not clearly distinct from Igbo as every Igbo person from SE hears Ika and Ika hears Igbo unlike Catalan and Spanish.

DomPerignon:
Good to hear you guys openly state why you are supporting Anioma as an extension of your SE and future Biafra.

I hope other Delta north people outside Asaba are seeing the reason for this Anioma rubbish support coming from your side.

What is actually the problem of Anioma becoming part of SE , does that add or remove anything from them, even if the issue of Biafra come up they have the right to reject it, why are you scared of irrelevant things. Nobody will force them against their wish. A country cannot farewell by forcing others to be in it.

peterincredible:
infact I don't really like that delta ibo thing self I am from anioma and we are igbos that delta-igbo is just to create separation nothing else

Good to know, don’t mind these enemies of Igbos telling you guys that you are Bini why there is no single Bini language in your language.

ehikwe22:
South East are not even one people. They're a mix of different people but somewhat related but completely segregated. The Europeans for the ease of administration brought you all together and made you one. Even creating a language for you and calling it Igbo.

Fortunately, they didn't find us that much related to add us to you guys and the natural boundary also played a big part. Even though the whole Igbo identity has been rubbing on us, we still want to maintain our separate identity. It doesn't matter what some ignorant folks call us. What we call ourselves matters most. And Ika language is recognised as it's own language but under the IGBOID family. The Nigeria government respect our identity and whenever any form of convention or confabs are held, Ika Ethnic Nationality are requested to send their representatives. Ika is recognised as an ethnic group in Nigeria andnDelta and it's taught in school. We now have our dictionary and our bible etc

Ika dictionary or Bible you are talking about is still Igbo words, every tribe have different dialects, Igbo is unity name as Yoruba or Hausa is a unity name for all their dialects. Your Ika tag end in Delta state, immediately you enter SW or north you are seeing as Igbo because your Ika dialect is under Igbo language.

casualobserver:
See as you turned this is abuse.

Let me remind you, you have not acheived any of your political goals in 64 years of the existence of this country.

SW has won 4 presidential elections in this country and had 2 elected presidents. A minority SS has become president before you. One group is doing something wrong and it is not the SW or the SS.

Politics is not selling spare parts where you can tell me to gerrout if I don’t like your price.

Oya insult me.

That is why I told you that you guys don’t want equity in Nigeria and that is why Nigeria is in shambles. Your above statement shows how you people drive joy in sabotaging Igbos and as a result of it Nigeria keep on suffering. The more you guys hold Igbo people down the more Nigeria is going down. In South South they have all the waters but no single functional Seaport, no standard international airport, no oil headquarters all are in Lagos just to punish the Igbos not to benefit from nearby seaports. Make una continue…..

casualobserver:
As usual noise and braggardry. No so you talk about referendum and nothing happen, na so you talk about presidency and nothing happen. No so una set fire to una region in the name of Biafra wey people just dey look una.

Like I said you are too emotional. Stick to business politics is not a game for emotional people.

You more emotional here, because you are pained about SE having additional state like other regions that have 6 states. You guys especially some of you Yorubas don’t like equitability in Nigeria, you thrive in sabotaging other regions to keep everything in SW.

DomPerignon:
Then why are you sitting down allowing Regina Daniels husband to be dragging you all to join the SE?

Continue to cry up and down ontop Anioma matter, people of Anioma speaks Igbo language and are called Delta Igbos in Nigeria.

ehikwe22:
I'm an Agbor man. I have zero business with the South East. I have never had any relationship witj them from pre-colonial times till date

Do you need to have anything to do with SE to be part of it, name one geopolitical zone in Nigeria that is not having different tribes in it. Last I checked, Agbor people are called Delta Igbos how come you don’t have anything to do with Igbos.

casualobserver:
The day your state is created let me know. I will credit you with N1m.

It might take time but must be achieved

casualobserver:
Why do we like to argue emotionally? I am telling you the reality of the negotions for state creation. If you want to toe that line the SE shouldn’t even have 5 states in the 1st place, the entire SE is not up to Oyo state or Niger state. When you take that line that is what those from Oyo or Niger will tell you. So don’t go along that line, I am simply telling you the politics of state creation.

Finally what do you have to show for the 5 states you have?

You are just arguing, if you bring in landmass then the north will have more 100 states, have you thought of population density in a small landmass, population of Anambra state is near to that of Oyo state showing that human density is more important than empty unoccupied landmass in Oyo or northern part and deserves more state than state that have big landmass with empty landscapes.

Apart from Lagos that was built with Nigeria oil money as former capital of Nigeria for more than 50 years, name one state in SW that is better than any state in SE if the 5 states in SE have not achieve nothing