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Factcheck0001:
u Igbos are another thing else

So since u Igbos are now put in your place in Lagos, u are now saying ijaw are Igbos

Ijaws in ajegunle

U are just a mad man with phone

Watch and learn so that you will not be falling your hand, there is many things you don’t know because history are not taught in Nigeria schools.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW7499XWXk

forgiveness:
Ijaw claiming land na today?

See evidence they are not indigenous to Lagos.

You see Ijaws in reality on their ancestral land in Lagos and you are saying they are claiming land.

There was a time Ijaw and Yorubas clash over the ownership of some waterline communities in Ajegunle Lagos.

The truth is that Ijaws occupied that area before the white people came into Lagos, Egun occupied Badagri axis, why Aworis own Lagos island. Yorubas like Egba and others live in upland like Lagos mainland.

casualobserver:
Who says I am joking? It’s an inevitability. Everybody is a product of migration. You settle somewhere long enough and you become “from there”

Ibos did not originate from the place they call Ibo land today, ijebus are from Sudan, most Yorubas from are actually migrants from Ife, There are yoruba descendants in Warri and Bayelsa.

So what I stated is simply a matter of certainty. In a few generations Ibos will tell you about their roots and ancestors in yoruba land…..and they will be historically correct.

No joke, no tribal connotations just a certain effect of human migration that is inevitable.

Migration have ended in the world with technology innovation except what Fulani is doing in Benue by killing entire villages and taking over their land.

Igbos can never become indigenous to Yoruba land except if Yorubas do like Northern cities were they gave Igbo people outskirts area and call it Sabo Ngari, with time Igbos built up the area and become dominant in the area but yet it doesn’t make them indigenous, incase of Yorubas, Igbos are scattered in Yoruba cities with no concentration to a particular area like in the core North.

forgiveness:
Did not reach water wey oyinbo take boat enter Lagos from UK?

Meaning Ijaw has no land but lived on water, right.

So here we go with concrete evidence of Ijaw people being indigenous to Lagos, watch and learn;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW7499XWXk

Kiokio Communities in Lagos near Ikorodu, other Ijaw communities are in Ajegunle. Read carefully.

Paraman:
Ijaws are not indigenous to Lagos. Unless you can prove it with evidence

So here we go with concrete evidence of Ijaw people being indigenous to Lagos, watch and learn;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW7499XWXk

Villagesquare:
We are all one people. We are blacks, we are the first human on earth. We all have connection to the kemet of the time immemorial. Why the hate, why the division. Let's embrace each other and work towards the restoration of the dignity of the black race. We have the brain, we have the resources if we wish we can regain our long lost glory. Long time ago, the Greeks travel from far away to Ancient kemet to study. Today they have learnt from Us and with determination have surpassed Us and we are still here swimming in the ocean of tribalism.

Well said, but we still have to talk about tribes in Africa without using it for a fight or tribalism.

casualobserver:
Soon they will add Lagos, ogun Ondo, Ekiti and Oyo to the list of their states.

These research is a reality on ground not for a joke.

forgiveness:
Ijaw aren't indigenous to Lagos state. See the census conducted in 1891 in Lagos. Did you see one Ijaw in Lagos.

Maybe the census counters could not reach the waters because Ijaw people normally live ontop of water. I will show you evidence.

Paraman:
Ijaws are not indigenous to Lagos. Unless you can prove it with evidence

I will get back with evidence

exposition:
Thanks for the correction its just one community that borders Ebonyi state they largely speak igbo language due to trading activities and inter marriage and probably settlement of Igbo rice farmers in the area
They have their language which is endangered because of the huge influence and population of these trades

Can you explain more of their original language before it became influenced, let it not be another some of Ikwerre tales by the moonlight that they came from Bini, yet no single Bini language in Ikwerre but 100% intelligible with Igbo language.

kasim155:
You are not getting it right. The Yoruba tribe is large with many dialect. We have the Egba dialect, the Ijebu dialect, the Ilaje dialect, etc but we have the general Yoruba for easy communication. If an Egba person speaks his dialect, an Ijebu person might not understand it fully.
Again, if the Yoruba say the Egun and the Aworis are part of the Yoruba sub groups, and both the Aworis and Egun agree to it. Then they are part of the Yoruba. So if the Igbos say the Ikweres are Igbo, it is left for the Ikweres to decide that whether they Igbo or not. We should not force other to what we believe in or to be part of us. If they agree fine, if they did not agree, it is also fine too. I don't get involve with the Ikweres and Igbos stuff, both tribes can resolve it amicably.

What you will understand is that Igbos are not forcing Ikwerre people to be Igbo, the problem is that the language and names Ikwerre people speak and bear is the same with the rest of Igbos. So it is very difficult for them to say they are not Igbo. If Ikwerre language is like Egun language in Lagos which no Yoruba person understand it when spoken unless a Yoruba learn it then it will be easy for Ikwerres and nobody will be talking about it. There are other languages in Rivers that Igbo people can’t understand or hear like Ijaw, Eleme, Abua, Gokana, Tai, okrike, kalabari, Baan, Khana etc, no Igbo person have said that these languages are Igbo.

Paraman:
There's no Ijaw land in Lagos, aworis and ilajes are Yorubas. Be guided okoro

Ijaw people are indigenous to Lagos in Ajegunle area of Lagos, they first Yoruba people reach the waters of Lagos. Check your history.

kasim155:
This is how some of u write false history about other people and their region. The Egun and the Aworis are sub groups of the Yoruba tribe, we also have the Ijebu as indigene of Lagos. So because Igbo are not indigenous to Lagos doesn't mean that Yoruba are not.

A Yoruba person can’t hear Egun , Awori or Ilaje language, these are distinct languages but Yorubas politically classified them as Yoruba sub group unlike Anioma-Ika-Ikwerre-Igbanke which every Igbo hear and understand their dialect of Igbo.

Jesuschristonw:
he made a mistake not odukpani local government...but Abi local government..they have indigenous igbo there,

Yes it was a mistake, corrected now, it is actually Isobo in Obubra LGA. I will check Abi LGA to know if there indigenous Igbos there, thanks for the remark.

adegunahmed:
I don't think you have been to Odukpani, you probably use Google for all this.
For you to say Igbos are indigenous to Odukpani simply means you didn't do your research well or probably sentimental in your opinion

I have modify the mistake, it is actually Isobo in Obubra LGA, thanks for the remark.

exposition:
Please educate me
Which part of odukpani has indigenous Igbo's?

I have modify the mistake, it is actually Isobo in Obubra LGA, thanks for the remark.

illicit:
Oh okay

But I don't see why you left out southwest Cameroon

We are talking about states in Nigeria that have indigenous Igbos

Yorubas are jittery about Tinubu failure and fear of Peter Obi winning in 2027 they are running to Jonathan

adeniyiemmanuel:
...this list is incompleted why LAGOS ,ABUJA & KANO didn't make the list ?most expectially Lagos that is no man's land.

Awon WEREY olee land grabbers.

There is no indigenous Igbos in Lagos, Igbos don’t claim other peoples land. The indigenous tribes in Lagos include;
1. Egun
2. Awori
3. Yoruba
4. Ijaw
5. Ilaje

illicit:
U didn't add Lagos

🤭

There is no indigenous Igbos in Lagos, Igbos don’t claim other peoples land. The indigenous tribes in Lagos include;
1. Egun
2. Awori
3. Yoruba
4. Ijaw
5. Ilaje

BigDick70inch:
Clown...
Can u say dat to ebonyi man.....y'all all have been treated poor all dis while......

Check indigenous Igbos in Nigeria and get acquainted

South East and State creation is political and military creation to divide Igbos and doesn’t represent tribes, Igbos in Nigeria spread across 13 states;
1. Anambra
2. Abia
3. Enugu
4. Ebonyi
5. Imo
6. Edo (Igbanke Igbos)
7. Delta (Anioma)
8. Rivers Igbos (Ikwerre, Ogba, Asa, Ekpeye, Ndoni-Egbema, Ndoki, Obigbo, Etches, Opobo, Ubani and Bonny)
9. Benue (Ado, Oju, Okpoku And Obi)
10. Cross River (Isobo in Obubra Lga).
11. Bayelsa (Sagbama-Ogbia)
12. Kogi ( Onicha Igo, Eke, Akpanya, Odolu, Ugwuebonyi, Nwajala, Amaeke, Ozara, etc mostly found in 3 local government of Ibaji, Odolu and Ofu local government areas in Kogi state)
13. Akwa Ibom ( Ohaobu Ndoki in Ukanafun Local government, Obuagu and Itumbauzo in Ini LGA and Umubueze in Ika LGA).

You have Peter Obi, support him, stop the Igbophobia.

Jonathan have done his part and retired.

saddler:
Igodomigodo was a smaller kingdom and was only in present day Benin city. Igodomigodo didn't even cover the whole of Edo state today so, igbos were never part of it.

It was the Benin Empire that stretched to Onitsha and this is evident in the Royal symbol(Ada and Eben) of Obi of Onitsha.

Quit lying . The evidence is just too glaring.

Igbos always grappling at straws when it comes to history .

Today you are from Isreal, tomorrow you are from Eri , next tomorrow you are now Idu .


Ajayi Crowther brought strangers ( slaves) together and taught them ibo language.

Argue with the proof below:

You are mistaken IDU kingdom that stretches to Onitsha with Benin kingdom that came much later after the collapse of Ogiso Igodomigodo to Oba. All the Benin artefacts, Royal symbols of Eben or Ada belong to IDU kingdom of which some Igbo communities of Igbanke-Ika-Anioma down to Agbor-Umunede to Onitsha was part of it. Benin took the glory of IDU because they are last of the collapse kingdom of IDU that the Yorubas Aromiya conquered smaller fragmented Igodomigodo.

Smaller part of Igbo like Ika and Igbanke are part of Igodomigodo by that time larger part of Igbo have left with the collapse of IDU kingdom to smaller Igodomigodo after various fighting.

You keep on mentioning Ajayi Crowther that was born yesterday 1809, he is not even upto 220 years old. There is some Igbos that are 120 years still alive today.

saddler:
Igbos were never part of Igodomigodo. Go check the names of the kings that ruled Igodomigodo, none were igbos.

There was no record of igbos in Igodomigodo history.

Ajayi Crowther took part of Igala, Ika, and Ikwerre languages and taught the people (slaves) that were in Igbo land.

Check the igbo traditional dressing too...its even a more recent thing, from the red cap/winter cap to the Akpoche, there were all borrowed.

This is the reason the Onitsha Monarchy will always stand by its Benin Origin because they know the rest igbos are descendants of slaves.

Your write up is always laughable , read about Idu kingdom and the various fight that collapsed it to smaller Igodomigodo and later to smaller Edo/Ado before the fall last Ogiso to first Oba and renaming it to ile Bini (a name given to it by Yorubas Aromiya) before the Portuguese started calling it Benin.

IDU kingdom stretches upto Onitsha before it collapsed to smaller Igodomigodo.

Ajayi crowther is just of recent, born in 1809 to 1891,was a Yoruba linguist, clergyman, and the first African Anglican bishop of West Africa and didn’t have the capacity to do such, he is just a writer of books as he studied linguistics while in slavery.

Kreesxxx:
What about if I say igbo is a dialect of Ikwerre people?
If you understand me and I also understand you don't you think you might be me? Have a reason to reason in a bilateral dimension. USA migrated from Great Britain. Today USA is almost five times Great Britain in power and population.
If not for written history no one would believe USA left UK for north America.

It can be either way, Igbo can be a dialect of Ikwerre but the bottom like is that the two languages are similar that both to a large extent can hear each other.

USA is a migrant country, not only migrant from UK but the rest of Europe but Uk is the first to conquer the land, in term of Ikwerre and Igbo, there was no colonialism from either side of Ikwerre or Igbo meaning that their languages are their ancestral heritage which is intelligible with each other signifying the same origin.

Kreesxxx:
The day you people will understand that every community has an equal stake to the moon that is when you people will stop with trying to rub us with igbo. Rubbing us with Igbo pains us as when I rub you with OSU identity if at all you are not one.

If you are an Ikwerre man, you should understand that God of creation has made your Ikwerre language similar to Igbo language and it is forever difficult to dissociate yourselves from Igbos.

Just imagine a man named Chibuike Amaechi or Eberechukwu Nwike Nyosom telling a Yoruba or Hausa or people of other countries that he or she is not Igbo, don’t you think that your name gave you out as Igbo before even speaking the language.

Anywhere you see someone answering Ayodele, Shola, Adeyomi, you will not think twice to call the person a Yoruba. So it is quite a difficult task for you Ikwerres forever to separate yourself from Igbos.

Kreesxxx:
Do you understand ikwerre?
Let's put it into test.
Iyo vo vu ivuru. Iyo vu ivoma.
What did I say?

Dialects differs in Igbo language and this is a small enclave of Ikwerre probably mixed with Ekpeye, the lager Ikwerre dialect is the same with Igbo.

Kreesxxx:
Igbos staying in their conclave wouldn't understand me. The only igbo that will understand ikwerre are those who have spent some times in Port Harcourt.
Igbos have known ikwerre for over a hundred years and every effort to annex ikwerre has failed. We may be a related ethnic but not one the other. Our cultures, beliefs and values differ.
Igbo has advantage because of numbers. That is why ikwerre is being classified as Igbo. An average Igbo man knows that if not for territorial expansion he doesn't have any similarities with an Ikwerre man.

Not true, I don’t live in Portharcourt, I understand Elele, Igwuruta, Ubima, Obioakpo, Diobi etc nothing different in these area languages with Igbo language. Is simply the same language with dialects variations.