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Factcheck0001:
any link to that bro?

http://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2010/06/25/ijebus-are-from-sudan-awujale-insists/

I will look for the video, Awujele said clearly that they are not originally Yorubas.

Factcheck0001:
any link to that bro?

I will send you a link of Ijebu Awujele that said that, so that you can listen to him.

Factcheck0001:
so in one word ijebus are not yorubas?

Yes they are not Yorubas but understand that over the years they have been assimilated into Yoruba umbrella.

Them theirselves Ijebus maintain that they differ from Yorubas, their Awujele king said that openly that they are from Sudan and not previously Yorubas.

Prosperity of Lagos or South West bring so many different ethnic groups together under Yoruba umbrella.

Factcheck0001:
since dialect differ

Are ijebu n ondo still yorubas

Yes or no?

No Ijebu people are not originally indigenous to dialects of Yorubas but long time of living close to Yorubas assimilated there language into Yoruba. Ijebu is different ethnicity that migrated from Sudan.

Remember that the term Yoruba is a unity name, in ancient time there no name like Yoruba, Yorubas live dialects by dialects like Egbas, Ekiti, Owo, Oyo etc. There are many different tribes in South West that was assimilated into Yoruba umbrella.

Factcheck0001:
I b Lagos boy but I had a girlfriend from ijebu then

Anytime she speaks with her mom in ijebu I no dey hear anything dem Dey talk

Does that mean ijebu is not Yoruba land?

Same thing with ondo, I was just lost when we went there for ceremony

Does that mean ondo n ijebu are not yorubas?

Then to classify it as Yoruba, the sound have to be similar with cultural similarities. Dialects can sound similar but may not be heard. Like Itshekiri in Delta state, everyone that hear where itshekiri is spoken know that it is similar to Yoruba in sound.

Factcheck0001:
please where did d awori, ilaje n egun said they ain't Yoruba?

I come tire for u oooo

Please try to understand, they don’t need to say they are not Yoruba. Your language define you. As far as Yorubas cannot hear Egun language when it is spoken then it is simple that they are not originally Yoruba indigenous but can choose to claim or align with Yorubas.

There are various dialects of Yorubas that when spoken every Yoruba will understand a little bit eg Ekiti, Igbomina, Ijebu, Ijesa, Oyo, Ondo, Owo, Ikale, Ikare, Gbede, Ijumu, Ife, etc.

If Igbos cannot hear Ikwerre language when it is spoken then it is simple that Ikwerres are not Igbo. I am not a Yoruba because I can’t hear Yoruba language except if I learn it.

Factcheck0001:
guy u have a problem

Ikwere say they are not Igbos

Egun n aworis didn't reject yorubas but u Igbos want to start claiming they are not yorubas

Have the egun n aworis ever rejected yorubas?

Please answer that question

Humans don’t have the capacity to decide which tribe they belong to, nature do that for all humans in the world. Your indigenous language and culture define which ethnicity you belong as human on this planet earth.

Aworis, Ilaje and Egun Languages are not intelligible with Yoruba, so they are not Yorubas but they can choose to align themselves with Yorubas for political purposes. That cannot not be said with Ikwerre dialect of Igbo because every Igbo person hear Ikwerre language when it is spoken and vice versa every Ikwerre person hear central Igbo when it is been spoken offcourse saying they are not Igbos is just for political purposes.

Factcheck0001:
u Igbos are another thing else

So since u Igbos are now put in your place in Lagos, u are now saying ijaw are Igbos

Ijaws in ajegunle

U are just a mad man with phone

Watch and learn so that you will not be falling your hand, there is many things you don’t know because history are not taught in Nigeria schools.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW7499XWXk

forgiveness:
Ijaw claiming land na today?

See evidence they are not indigenous to Lagos.

You see Ijaws in reality on their ancestral land in Lagos and you are saying they are claiming land.

There was a time Ijaw and Yorubas clash over the ownership of some waterline communities in Ajegunle Lagos.

The truth is that Ijaws occupied that area before the white people came into Lagos, Egun occupied Badagri axis, why Aworis own Lagos island. Yorubas like Egba and others live in upland like Lagos mainland.

casualobserver:
Who says I am joking? It’s an inevitability. Everybody is a product of migration. You settle somewhere long enough and you become “from there”

Ibos did not originate from the place they call Ibo land today, ijebus are from Sudan, most Yorubas from are actually migrants from Ife, There are yoruba descendants in Warri and Bayelsa.

So what I stated is simply a matter of certainty. In a few generations Ibos will tell you about their roots and ancestors in yoruba land…..and they will be historically correct.

No joke, no tribal connotations just a certain effect of human migration that is inevitable.

Migration have ended in the world with technology innovation except what Fulani is doing in Benue by killing entire villages and taking over their land.

Igbos can never become indigenous to Yoruba land except if Yorubas do like Northern cities were they gave Igbo people outskirts area and call it Sabo Ngari, with time Igbos built up the area and become dominant in the area but yet it doesn’t make them indigenous, incase of Yorubas, Igbos are scattered in Yoruba cities with no concentration to a particular area like in the core North.

forgiveness:
Did not reach water wey oyinbo take boat enter Lagos from UK?

Meaning Ijaw has no land but lived on water, right.

So here we go with concrete evidence of Ijaw people being indigenous to Lagos, watch and learn;


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW7499XWXk

Kiokio Communities in Lagos near Ikorodu, other Ijaw communities are in Ajegunle. Read carefully.

Paraman:
Ijaws are not indigenous to Lagos. Unless you can prove it with evidence

So here we go with concrete evidence of Ijaw people being indigenous to Lagos, watch and learn;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfW7499XWXk

Villagesquare:
We are all one people. We are blacks, we are the first human on earth. We all have connection to the kemet of the time immemorial. Why the hate, why the division. Let's embrace each other and work towards the restoration of the dignity of the black race. We have the brain, we have the resources if we wish we can regain our long lost glory. Long time ago, the Greeks travel from far away to Ancient kemet to study. Today they have learnt from Us and with determination have surpassed Us and we are still here swimming in the ocean of tribalism.

Well said, but we still have to talk about tribes in Africa without using it for a fight or tribalism.

casualobserver:
Soon they will add Lagos, ogun Ondo, Ekiti and Oyo to the list of their states.

These research is a reality on ground not for a joke.

forgiveness:
Ijaw aren't indigenous to Lagos state. See the census conducted in 1891 in Lagos. Did you see one Ijaw in Lagos.

Maybe the census counters could not reach the waters because Ijaw people normally live ontop of water. I will show you evidence.

Paraman:
Ijaws are not indigenous to Lagos. Unless you can prove it with evidence

I will get back with evidence

exposition:
Thanks for the correction its just one community that borders Ebonyi state they largely speak igbo language due to trading activities and inter marriage and probably settlement of Igbo rice farmers in the area
They have their language which is endangered because of the huge influence and population of these trades

Can you explain more of their original language before it became influenced, let it not be another some of Ikwerre tales by the moonlight that they came from Bini, yet no single Bini language in Ikwerre but 100% intelligible with Igbo language.

kasim155:
You are not getting it right. The Yoruba tribe is large with many dialect. We have the Egba dialect, the Ijebu dialect, the Ilaje dialect, etc but we have the general Yoruba for easy communication. If an Egba person speaks his dialect, an Ijebu person might not understand it fully.
Again, if the Yoruba say the Egun and the Aworis are part of the Yoruba sub groups, and both the Aworis and Egun agree to it. Then they are part of the Yoruba. So if the Igbos say the Ikweres are Igbo, it is left for the Ikweres to decide that whether they Igbo or not. We should not force other to what we believe in or to be part of us. If they agree fine, if they did not agree, it is also fine too. I don't get involve with the Ikweres and Igbos stuff, both tribes can resolve it amicably.

What you will understand is that Igbos are not forcing Ikwerre people to be Igbo, the problem is that the language and names Ikwerre people speak and bear is the same with the rest of Igbos. So it is very difficult for them to say they are not Igbo. If Ikwerre language is like Egun language in Lagos which no Yoruba person understand it when spoken unless a Yoruba learn it then it will be easy for Ikwerres and nobody will be talking about it. There are other languages in Rivers that Igbo people can’t understand or hear like Ijaw, Eleme, Abua, Gokana, Tai, okrike, kalabari, Baan, Khana etc, no Igbo person have said that these languages are Igbo.

Paraman:
There's no Ijaw land in Lagos, aworis and ilajes are Yorubas. Be guided okoro

Ijaw people are indigenous to Lagos in Ajegunle area of Lagos, they first Yoruba people reach the waters of Lagos. Check your history.

kasim155:
This is how some of u write false history about other people and their region. The Egun and the Aworis are sub groups of the Yoruba tribe, we also have the Ijebu as indigene of Lagos. So because Igbo are not indigenous to Lagos doesn't mean that Yoruba are not.

A Yoruba person can’t hear Egun , Awori or Ilaje language, these are distinct languages but Yorubas politically classified them as Yoruba sub group unlike Anioma-Ika-Ikwerre-Igbanke which every Igbo hear and understand their dialect of Igbo.

Jesuschristonw:
he made a mistake not odukpani local government...but Abi local government..they have indigenous igbo there,

Yes it was a mistake, corrected now, it is actually Isobo in Obubra LGA. I will check Abi LGA to know if there indigenous Igbos there, thanks for the remark.

adegunahmed:
I don't think you have been to Odukpani, you probably use Google for all this.
For you to say Igbos are indigenous to Odukpani simply means you didn't do your research well or probably sentimental in your opinion

I have modify the mistake, it is actually Isobo in Obubra LGA, thanks for the remark.

exposition:
Please educate me
Which part of odukpani has indigenous Igbo's?

I have modify the mistake, it is actually Isobo in Obubra LGA, thanks for the remark.

illicit:
Oh okay

But I don't see why you left out southwest Cameroon

We are talking about states in Nigeria that have indigenous Igbos

Yorubas are jittery about Tinubu failure and fear of Peter Obi winning in 2027 they are running to Jonathan

adeniyiemmanuel:
...this list is incompleted why LAGOS ,ABUJA & KANO didn't make the list ?most expectially Lagos that is no man's land.

Awon WEREY olee land grabbers.

There is no indigenous Igbos in Lagos, Igbos don’t claim other peoples land. The indigenous tribes in Lagos include;
1. Egun
2. Awori
3. Yoruba
4. Ijaw
5. Ilaje

illicit:
U didn't add Lagos

🤭

There is no indigenous Igbos in Lagos, Igbos don’t claim other peoples land. The indigenous tribes in Lagos include;
1. Egun
2. Awori
3. Yoruba
4. Ijaw
5. Ilaje

BigDick70inch:
Clown...
Can u say dat to ebonyi man.....y'all all have been treated poor all dis while......

Check indigenous Igbos in Nigeria and get acquainted

South East and State creation is political and military creation to divide Igbos and doesn’t represent tribes, Igbos in Nigeria spread across 13 states;
1. Anambra
2. Abia
3. Enugu
4. Ebonyi
5. Imo
6. Edo (Igbanke Igbos)
7. Delta (Anioma)
8. Rivers Igbos (Ikwerre, Ogba, Asa, Ekpeye, Ndoni-Egbema, Ndoki, Obigbo, Etches, Opobo, Ubani and Bonny)
9. Benue (Ado, Oju, Okpoku And Obi)
10. Cross River (Isobo in Obubra Lga).
11. Bayelsa (Sagbama-Ogbia)
12. Kogi ( Onicha Igo, Eke, Akpanya, Odolu, Ugwuebonyi, Nwajala, Amaeke, Ozara, etc mostly found in 3 local government of Ibaji, Odolu and Ofu local government areas in Kogi state)
13. Akwa Ibom ( Ohaobu Ndoki in Ukanafun Local government, Obuagu and Itumbauzo in Ini LGA and Umubueze in Ika LGA).

You have Peter Obi, support him, stop the Igbophobia.

Jonathan have done his part and retired.