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saddler:
Igodomigodo was a smaller kingdom and was only in present day Benin city. Igodomigodo didn't even cover the whole of Edo state today so, igbos were never part of it.

It was the Benin Empire that stretched to Onitsha and this is evident in the Royal symbol(Ada and Eben) of Obi of Onitsha.

Quit lying . The evidence is just too glaring.

Igbos always grappling at straws when it comes to history .

Today you are from Isreal, tomorrow you are from Eri , next tomorrow you are now Idu .


Ajayi Crowther brought strangers ( slaves) together and taught them ibo language.

Argue with the proof below:

You are mistaken IDU kingdom that stretches to Onitsha with Benin kingdom that came much later after the collapse of Ogiso Igodomigodo to Oba. All the Benin artefacts, Royal symbols of Eben or Ada belong to IDU kingdom of which some Igbo communities of Igbanke-Ika-Anioma down to Agbor-Umunede to Onitsha was part of it. Benin took the glory of IDU because they are last of the collapse kingdom of IDU that the Yorubas Aromiya conquered smaller fragmented Igodomigodo.

Smaller part of Igbo like Ika and Igbanke are part of Igodomigodo by that time larger part of Igbo have left with the collapse of IDU kingdom to smaller Igodomigodo after various fighting.

You keep on mentioning Ajayi Crowther that was born yesterday 1809, he is not even upto 220 years old. There is some Igbos that are 120 years still alive today.

saddler:
Igbos were never part of Igodomigodo. Go check the names of the kings that ruled Igodomigodo, none were igbos.

There was no record of igbos in Igodomigodo history.

Ajayi Crowther took part of Igala, Ika, and Ikwerre languages and taught the people (slaves) that were in Igbo land.

Check the igbo traditional dressing too...its even a more recent thing, from the red cap/winter cap to the Akpoche, there were all borrowed.

This is the reason the Onitsha Monarchy will always stand by its Benin Origin because they know the rest igbos are descendants of slaves.

Your write up is always laughable , read about Idu kingdom and the various fight that collapsed it to smaller Igodomigodo and later to smaller Edo/Ado before the fall last Ogiso to first Oba and renaming it to ile Bini (a name given to it by Yorubas Aromiya) before the Portuguese started calling it Benin.

IDU kingdom stretches upto Onitsha before it collapsed to smaller Igodomigodo.

Ajayi crowther is just of recent, born in 1809 to 1891,was a Yoruba linguist, clergyman, and the first African Anglican bishop of West Africa and didn’t have the capacity to do such, he is just a writer of books as he studied linguistics while in slavery.

Kreesxxx:
What about if I say igbo is a dialect of Ikwerre people?
If you understand me and I also understand you don't you think you might be me? Have a reason to reason in a bilateral dimension. USA migrated from Great Britain. Today USA is almost five times Great Britain in power and population.
If not for written history no one would believe USA left UK for north America.

It can be either way, Igbo can be a dialect of Ikwerre but the bottom like is that the two languages are similar that both to a large extent can hear each other.

USA is a migrant country, not only migrant from UK but the rest of Europe but Uk is the first to conquer the land, in term of Ikwerre and Igbo, there was no colonialism from either side of Ikwerre or Igbo meaning that their languages are their ancestral heritage which is intelligible with each other signifying the same origin.

Kreesxxx:
The day you people will understand that every community has an equal stake to the moon that is when you people will stop with trying to rub us with igbo. Rubbing us with Igbo pains us as when I rub you with OSU identity if at all you are not one.

If you are an Ikwerre man, you should understand that God of creation has made your Ikwerre language similar to Igbo language and it is forever difficult to dissociate yourselves from Igbos.

Just imagine a man named Chibuike Amaechi or Eberechukwu Nwike Nyosom telling a Yoruba or Hausa or people of other countries that he or she is not Igbo, don’t you think that your name gave you out as Igbo before even speaking the language.

Anywhere you see someone answering Ayodele, Shola, Adeyomi, you will not think twice to call the person a Yoruba. So it is quite a difficult task for you Ikwerres forever to separate yourself from Igbos.

Kreesxxx:
Do you understand ikwerre?
Let's put it into test.
Iyo vo vu ivuru. Iyo vu ivoma.
What did I say?

Dialects differs in Igbo language and this is a small enclave of Ikwerre probably mixed with Ekpeye, the lager Ikwerre dialect is the same with Igbo.

Kreesxxx:
Igbos staying in their conclave wouldn't understand me. The only igbo that will understand ikwerre are those who have spent some times in Port Harcourt.
Igbos have known ikwerre for over a hundred years and every effort to annex ikwerre has failed. We may be a related ethnic but not one the other. Our cultures, beliefs and values differ.
Igbo has advantage because of numbers. That is why ikwerre is being classified as Igbo. An average Igbo man knows that if not for territorial expansion he doesn't have any similarities with an Ikwerre man.

Not true, I don’t live in Portharcourt, I understand Elele, Igwuruta, Ubima, Obioakpo, Diobi etc nothing different in these area languages with Igbo language. Is simply the same language with dialects variations.

Kreesxxx:
What is Igbo word for 'Yes'?
Let's start here to know who stole the other person's language.

Languages can’t be stolen, Ikwerre word itself is Igbo word of saying Yes I agree. Every language that can understand across many people is the same language.

saddler:
Ode!

Ika, Ikwerre, Ogba and the rest do not speak igbo.

They speak their own distinct language. That there are similarities in language is normal everywhere in the world. Even within the igbo group, they dont understand themselves e.g there are groups in Enonyi state whose language is not understand by other igbos.

Another fact is that, ika, Ikwerre and other south south nationalities are older than igbo.
These groups have a well defined history and how their progenitor migrated from Benin. Same cannot be said about igbos who till this day cannot tell the world where they came from.

Stop trying to be a land grabber and focus on your five plots of land. It was Ajayi that caused this nonsense when he brought strange people together and started teaching them a language called "ibo".

You just drive joy in deceiving yourself, nobody is grabbing your land, migration from Benin doesn’t mean that the progenitors that migrated from Benin are not Igbos, before the establishment of Benin kingdom from Yorubas Aromiya with the help of Portuguese, there is IDU kingdom before Igodomigodo, Igbos are part of IDU before Akalaka and Eze-Chime migrated out of IDU not even Benin because Benin kingdom came yesterday.

The said Ajayi Crowther is a returned refugee from America that just wrote a book about languages in Nigeria and didn’t form any language, stop showing your ignorance on public.

Tranquill:
Ikwerre language is not Igbo dialect.

Ikwerre language is Ikwerre language and Igbo language is Igbo language.

Ikwerre language IS NOT the same with Igbo language.

Ikwerre language is spoken by Ikwerre people and Igbo language is spoken by Igbo people.

A language that can be understood and heard by the same group of people can’t be a different language to each other.

Tranquill:
Dreamer dream on.

Fantasy is free.

Until you clowns realize that you are just wasting your time and begin to plan your biafala or whatever you like, without Ikwerre in mind, you will continue deluding yourselves.

Never seen a people without self respect.

Who is talking about Biafra here, the context is that Ikwerre language is an Igbo dialect because all them can hear each other and bear the same names and that doesn’t make Ikwerre people Biafrans.

Ikwerre can deny not been Igbo for political reasons but in reality their Ikwerre language is the same with Igbo language.

sageb:
You have countered his lies with facts.
Meka ooo

All those things you call facts doesn’t matter because the reality on ground is that your language you call Ikwerre is Igbo dialect. If Igbo man is standing near you and you are with another Ikwerre person discussing , can you sell the Igbo man standing near you with your Ikwerre without the Igbo person hearing what you are saying in your language you call Ikwerre.

Darren95:
Oga respect yourself, we speak Ikwerre Language which has over 20 dialects.

That Ikwerre and Igbo happen to share some similar words in both languages due to close boundary does not give you the audacity to group our language as Igbo!

For your information: Igbo means “Forest” in Ikwerre Language and our Ikwerre Language or identity is not “Forest”! Plss!!! Hahahah

They don’t share similar words, Ikwerre is Igbo language or whichever language you want to call it. The two languages are intelligible, Anioma, Ika, Ikwerre are on the same family language and can be grouped under Igbo because you all hear yourselves and bear the same names.

Any language that is heard by all that is speaking fall under the same language like Portuguese, Spanish and Italian are under Latin language and diverge into different dialects from Latin, the same with German languages of Germany, Austria etc.

In Yoruba, Awoori, Ilaje, Egun language can’t be understood by Yorubas and yet it was classified as Yoruba to talk of Ikwerre language that every Igbo person can hear und understand very well.

Darren95:
Oga shut up your mouth if you don’t know the origin of the word “Akalaka”

Akalaka is a combination of two words:

Akalaka = Aka N’ Ogbe alaka (Ogbelaka in Benin)
N’ = From
Ogbe = Quarters
Alaka = A founder of good things.

I.e = Aka warrior from Ogbelaka in Igodomigodo present day Benin Kingdom.

We Ikwerre, Ogba and Ekpeye are the Great Aka’s of Ancient Benin Kingdom.

Then the Benin’s where also known as; ‘Aka’ which the Urhobo people still call Benin till date.

Pa Idu the progenitor of Ancient Benin had three Children: Aka, Efa, and Emehi

Akalaka (Aka) an Ancient Benin name signifies: Strength, Greatness and mighty.

That is why you have names like:
Alakalaka in Benin = meaning Greatness and mighty too.

Benin is not yesterday, it is called Ancient Kingdom for a reason and Ikwerre people are ancient people!

Respect our history Mr. Igbo Biafra attach by force migrant parasites!

You can’t be speaking Igbo and be claiming Bini, saying you lost your Bini language to Igbo, that is laughable, just say that you people are denying been Igbo for political reasons.

Nawaoo,Niger of all places, Nigeria don cast

Akpero Union

EFCC is Crazy by arresting him over ordinary tape recordings that someone can deny at anytime as being doctored, they are just disturbing that guy, he have serve his jail term even if he was given special treatment, that is the fault of prison department although he is annoying in his utterances.

LegendHero:
If you bet your life, you might lose it.

Check the lady profile well. What she said is no different from what Ibo people say daily on Nairaland and Twitter

No Igbo person have time to say that, Igbos know very well that Yorubas get UK, they are the first to land in UK in numbers before Igbos, so Igbos don’t argue Yoruba success in Uk, Reno is a Clown behind that moniker.

The said person maybe Reno Omokri replying himself through alternative handle just to bash Igbos, Reno is just a jobless clown.

They are just manipulating Koran to perpetuate evil, although Koran contain some awkward violent statements that led Islamic members to involve in violence but they are over doing it.

Wonder why South West like seeing big figures for their various state in the name of IGR instead of looking at their state infrastructural development and impact of overtaxing on their populace into abject poverty. Human development is more important than IGR that end up in politicians pocket.

Ask yourself why did Gowon refuse to honor Aburi peace accord

Thought pastorship or priesthood is lifetime something, is there payment settlement from the owner of the church

Celebrate him for what, if Gowon implemented Aburi peace accord there won’t be any civil war.

sulaak:
Aguiyi Ironsi's decree 34 abolished the regional system in Nigeria.

The military government is not, by definition, unitary, but Ironsi abolished the regional system because he believed that the regions were not loyal to the Nigerian constitution. Gowon exacerbated the problem of the unitary state, but the fault lies with Aguiyi Ironsi's Decree 34

Is a lie, if Ironsi abolished regional government, why is Ojukwu remain the head of eastern region until the war, he led the delegation to Aburi peace accord that met with Gowon in Ghana.

You will say that your goal is to impact positively on the company and see it grow, that the company is a reputable company, that it salary will be in acceptable range for you. That is when you are scared of losing the position but if you don’t care then you quote a price.

SW media

Unfortunately Nigerians see everything as politics and try to defend the statue quo but we are all doing ourselves, if we travel to Ghana, Egypt or South Africa and see how their countries is doing better by spreading development across the regions of their countries.

Ikaeniyan0:
Onne and Calabar port are working.

Kano international airport is also working

If you are into importation, you will know they are not working, what I am saying is reality. If other African countries like South Africa can have 4 standard seaport in their different regions, how will Nigeria catch up with ensuring that such amenities is confined into one state by force without thinking of spreading development.

You can’t fly out of Nigeria if you don’t touch down in Lagos or Abuja international airport. Kano international airport is only use in direct international flight during hajj lifting of pilgrimage to Saudi Arabia.

Aleem26:
Let me educate you bro…am a custom licensed agent,we have federal lighter terminal (FLT)for oil related and federal ocean terminal (FOT)for non oil related so what makes lagos different is it welcomes THE RORO vessel and Onne seaport doesn’t
This is Nigeria where everything is possible so if you know your way here with customs here too 👍 your good to go cos I can vividly tell you that onne is hassle free unlike Lagos.

I import goods into Nigeria, I know what I am telling you. If indeed you’re working in Onne, you will know that goods are intentionally delayed and cost much more to clear at Onne port than Lagos. As you mentioned RoRo is not going there and many other important shipping agencies, why is it so

Aleem26:
I work at Onne seaport…and it’s 💯 functioning

Is a lie, only oil companies use Onne port, not for public like Apapa port, if you choose Onne port while importing the person will pay three times the price in Lagos and the goods will be delayed for months, is just a politics to frustrate other ports other than the one in Lagos. You can only fly out of Nigeria either from Lagos or Abuja.

Nigeria is just a country that don’t want their country to develop.