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Magnoliaa:
Odinson1, soundOsonic and kayperry will not see a man broke-shaming another man here but nooo it's Magnoliaa they'll want to drag for the fun of it.

Men who broke shame other men are part of the problem

thorpido:
You say women are unvaluable because you place yourself where there's no value.

Yes,it is always a man's fault when women are unable to Be productive.
Nonsense! This is just another bullshit for women to escape accountability and continue blaming men for "rolling with the wrong women" as if those women aren't women themselves.

Magnoliaa:
You said someone was sounding bitter like me. The point is you judged and labeled me... why? This thread afterall is about men respecting or not respecting women anyway. How have I ever been bitter to YOU before that needed you to go on disrespecting me and saying shit to me?

And that isn't the only link I shared.

You going off topic, we've been arguing about prostitution since afternoon,not respecting women.
I told you to give me proof i Directly Called you a prostitute,you Still haven't done that.

Magnoliaa:
https://www.nairaland.com/6976263/what-did-nairaland#110050484

The same way I was on this thread insulting men and you mentioned me without reason.

I can't find where I called you a Prostitute here. Remember, you are to provide evidence as to where or when i Directly called you a Prostitute.

Magnoliaa:
And you do not know that my relationships are set-up like this. Good.

I'll allow your conscience be the judge,only you know what is going through your mind whenever your Boyfriend(s) wants to Have sex with you.
"He hasn't given me money for my hair yet"
"Should i tell him about that pink bag i saw the other day?"
"Let me ask for transport fair and increase it so I'll have change to buy shawarma"
"He has to take me out first"

But it's all good,i ain't psychic,so these are all just speculations and examples

Magnoliaa:
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, it really did pained me and it's still paining me. Or why else do you think I would be going on and on about it? And you don't remember, that's a definitive no from you, right? You are saying you've never ever called me a prostitute?

You are always on thread shaming men for not recklessly spending on women, calling them broke, stingy and frustrated. So i might have called you a Disgusting Prostitute any of those time, don't remember.

So please provide proofs of your claims.

Magnoliaa:
I SWEAR I'll hold you to these words. I think that is very clearly established on this thread already. You've NEVER given women money? Wait, is giving and spending different in your book? Let me first know. And are your female relatives included or excluded? If you're saying you don't give money to women at all, just let me catch you with this moniker talking about a woman you've given money. You kuku know me.



Okay, okay. Expecting payment for sex makes me a prostitute, but I am not a prostitute if my man gives and spends money on me and we still have sex as a couple.

My own sha is you are not in mind, my relationships and life, yet you're somehow insinuating I bill my men for sex and expect payment from them. Why, odinson1?

If he stops spending on you,will you stop "giving" him sex? If yes, then you are A Prostitute.

Magnoliaa:
It doesn't clear shit. You've categorically called me a prostitute times without number. Where are the proofs for such claims. I'm waiting. Have you tried to patronise me? If no, then how do you know I am one?

If it was a baseless assumption, will you agree then that you intentionally disrespected me as a woman...? When I have done nothing to warrant it? You've never quoted me with a basic human decency from the start...

It seems this "Prostitute" of a word pains you so much,why?
I don't remember ever calling you a Prostitute,kind provide proof for your claims so i would address them accordingly.

Magnoliaa:
I don't have a circuit issue, thank you.

You have not given money to a girlfriend FOR sex, but you've given them money before? And you've had sex with them?

So that means you understand that, even if I've collected money from guys I was in a relationship with, and we've had sex before, they did not pay me FOR sex?

I'll rephrase one last time because you have serious Compression issues.

"I have Never given money to any Prostitute or girlfriend before, whether for sex or otherwise" I'll sound it again since you are too slow, I don't spend My hard earned money on women. You're on your own if you twist it again.

For your last paragraph, whether they've given you money or not doesn't matter. What matters is if you've ever expected payment for the sex you are "giving" to them. If that happens,you automatically become a prostitute. If you deny them sex because they refuse to give you money, That also makes you a Prostitute.
Even a 13 year old would understand this, what is wrong with you?

Magnoliaa:
I see implications and contexts are a tad bit hard for you to grasp, but like I promised someone, I'll gently and patiently school you.

You follow me. You defined prostitution as sex in exchange for money and gave an example of a girl who wants you to give her 5k tfare just for her to come. Wait? To come and do what? If it is not sex, I do not see why it was relevant for you to mention.

But you obviously mentioned that encounter to show that women are giving sex in exchange for money. And you ask what the remaining 4,500k was for, right? She was billing you for sex. Prostitution. And you said the girl does not see herself as a prostitute, meanwhile her actions is clearly prostitution. The same way I do not see myself a prostitute.

Don't be calling dog monkey for me, na A1 I get for English for my WAEC . (Not really A1 sha, but you get the point ).

Your words again: She doesn't see herself as a Prostitute (just like you) BUT she is already asking for payment, calling it transport fare. What is the remaining 4500 for

If you were not trying to call me a prostitute and to link me to that girl, you would have said something like, "unlike you."

And saying, YOU WANT TO TELL ME THAT you don't bill guys you date is already a doubt you're expressing about me not billing guys. You were inclined to thinking I bill guys I date for sex, which is prostitution in your book. So why are you inclined towards thinking that? That's what I'm asking you to tell.

And you've not answer me o. You've called me an "ashawo" times without number on this NL, when you were saying that too, was it a self-reflection question? Telling me you can't shame the shameless? Do you want me to screenshot those pages here? It's all in my (Mentions).

Then it appears my use of Wordings was what Started this confusion. I will use "unlike you" next time.

Magnoliaa:
If I am a prostitute by virtue of collecting money(billing) from guys I have had sex with in a relationship, then you're a sex-buyer by virtue of giving money to the girlfriends you've had sex with in the past.

Are you not the one that defined prostitution like that? When two people having sex in a relationship give money to each other, then it is a brothel business.

O o ni sense sha. Simpu tin, ko le ye e.

If you don give money to girlfriend wey you dey fk on a steady before, you're a sex-buyer, my nigga.

Since you have compression issues, I'll rephrase.
I have never given money to a girlfriend/ prostitute/ female friend for sex before.

Magnoliaa:
You didn't insinuate I was a prostitute here?


And you've never called me a prostitute on this NL? Really? You're sure? Should I bring out where? I should judge myself and answer when you've done all the judging??

No, dude. You ain't logic-ing right. I said you call me names and slut-shame and you went to on say the reason WHY you (do) call me a prostitute. Before that you were calling me a prostitute without doubt, you were certain it was because I was giving guys sex in exchange for money. So if you believe that without a doubt, why don't you bring the proof then? Of the guys I've slept with and billed? You already accused me of being in denial as to what I am (just like the 5k lady), so nothing I say will make a difference. Rather, it should be you furnishing Nairalanders and regaling them with stories of my sexcapades and sex hawking. Drive the nail into the coffin and humiliate me. You have all the chance.

Just know sha for any girl you might have dated in the past and given money at some point, you're a pìmp. In fact, for any woman you have sex with at all in a relationship and give money to for any reason, you are punter. A sex-buyer.

"She doesn't think she's a prostitute,like you Also think you are not a Prostitute"

That was what i was trying to say, not "so she won't think she's prostitute like you"
Do you get now?

As for your last paragraph,I have never patronized a prostitute before.

SilentQueen:
Why did you want to know!?
Some cannot even spend 1k on their ladies weekly
Stingy Nigerian men!!

So says a broke woman who can not fend on herself,but depends on scrabs from men.

Magnoliaa:
I sooooo plan on it. Unless he sticks to not quoting me sha like he's resolved. Even at then, that one no mean say e go stop me from quoting him.

He must tell me when he sent me a PM and I told him to send me 5k abi he should mention the guys I've been billing.

Oh, abi na because of my signature, odinson1?

You have the stage now o. Come and explain to the good community of Nairalanders why I am a prostitute and why you choose to start disrespecting when you and I have never had any altercation prior to your mentioning me alongside some other ladies on that thread.

I am oñly quoting you to clear the confusion about which you thought i called you a Prostitute on this thread. I hate misunderstanding more than anything,so Once that is settled,this conversation will be over.

Magnoliaa:
No, fùck that. You want me to bring proofs? You've been disrespecting me and calling me a prostitute all over NL without me doing nothing to you. What I do that you decided to be doing that? What?

You even likened me to some girl demanding 5k from you, saying, she won't think she's a prostitute like I do, and you say you're not talking about me? A lá ment?

"She doesn't think she's a prostitute,like you Also think you are not a Prostitute"

That was what i was trying to say, not "so she won't think she's prostitute like you"
Read to understand abeg

Magnoliaa:
I actually have his time this afternoon. He should come and explain to me the escort service I run or when he tried booking me for a hangout and I was asking him for #5,000 tfare.

You don't have to work in a brothel or have a hookup account to be a prostitute. The moment you expect monetary payment or otherwise before or after sex, you automatically become a Prostitute.

Now I'm not talking about you,before you start getting any bright ideas.

Magnoliaa:
But we've not gone past the point of me prostituting myself in relationships and for hookups, have we?

It's fine sha, you simply do not see yourself a church rat too and denial is your way of coping with that.

I never called you A Prostitute though,did i?
I only asked you if you've never billed guys you have sex with before. A simple question that requires you to judge yourself and answer.
The logic to prostituting is having sex for money,what is the logic behind being a church rat?

I guess any man who sees paying for sex as stupidity,is a Church rat then. Because that was your reason for that broke shaming earlier. Am i wrong?

Magnoliaa:
Ohhhhh, I see where the personal pain is coming from now. Classic projection. But it is only a church rat like you that'll be feeling the way you do at women billing, something men of your kind and mates would gladly do, since they believe they are the superior gender...

So you can't get a coochie in real life and you resort to calling women online prostitutes in hope that they'll try to prove you wrong and then give it up to you ba?

Must be a sad existence you live, odinson1.

We've gone past this broke shaming nonsense. If you Refuse to understand the point i was trying to make,then i cannot Continue this Argument any further.

Magnoliaa:
It is when it comes to women that y'all remember that these things should be by individual basis and merit, but 99% of the time you are always screaming "a man needs respect," "men are the heads," "men are logical."

How many individual men (do you wait for to) prove themselves worthy and deserving of the above widely held notions?

Women are More emotional
Men are more Logical

Are the 2 statements above true based on individual basis,or by Our different biology?

Magnoliaa:
Of course, but the default state for most men is to disrespect a lady, the same way you and other guys do here. Countless of times. Like you do to me, hence the phrase: "Respect women" came up. There is a context, history, etc., behind it y'all like to play pretend to and acting like...
ABSOLUTELY NOBODY says you should respect someone just because of their gender, what we're saying is having that initial decent respect for whomever you meet.

It is actually YOU MEN who expect to be AUTOMATICALLY respected because you have phalluses. When people say don't disrespect a man or don't talk shit to a man, they are actually alluding to his gender rather than to his person.

It is men that are expected and that people expect to be respected by default, by virtue of them being men actually.

Zonefree/kriss216, mosdii, Ikillbrokehoes (semi-previously), nonexistenting/nonexistent, bloodysperm, womenareapes, rapistonbail ... these and more are but a few examples of guys online and in REAL LIFE who go about devaluing and dehumanising womenfolk. Even when an initial offense (against most of these dudes) cannot be proven. EVEN WHEN. It's just like saying black lives matter. Nobody is saying other lives do not matter or that only black lives matter. It is simply a standing statement of fact. Do you understand now? Or you want to continue playing obtuse?

Nope. I doubt you will as this is even a copied post, no be say na from your head.

You want to tell me you haven't seen women say "all women are special" and men should therefore respect them? If you haven't,then I don't know how else to continue this.
But I'll indulge you a bit.
For your information,men are NOT respected by default! A man is only respected when he has something of value to present. I am not going to waste my time explaining this common knowledge to you.

And for the record,when guys here call you prostitutes, do you want to tell me you don't know the meaning of A Prostitute?
A prostitute is simply a woman who "gives out" sex in exchange for money, favours or services. Do you want to tell me you don't bill the guys you are having sex with?
A girl i was chatting with to come over lets have some fun,was telling me to give her 5k as transport, whereas her house is just like 500 naira away. She doesn't see herself as a Prostitute (just like you) but she is already asking for payment, calling it transport fare. What is the remaining 4500 for?
Y'all will always put price tags on sex but you don't see yourselves as prostitutes.

And when we call your kind names here,it is some tims in retaliation to how you call us Broke, miserable and frustrated. While other times,it is actually the truth that some of you are Prostitutes,while some of the guys here are broke.

"Respect women" is a bullshit talk because it implies that ALL women around the world should be automatically respected by men, irrespective of who they are or whether they've done anything to earn that respect or not. Women are NOT special, so don't expect automatic respect!

Uzomacharles:
I respect everyone equally...

But women will always want you to respect them for being Feminine.

But they don't respect us for being Masculine

Ussycool:
I RESPECT THEM FOR MY PERSONAL REASON

Do they respect you?

V

Here’s the thing: just because she’s a woman doesn’t mean you should respect her. Of course, you need to respect her privacy and personal space, etc, but you shouldn’t just respect someone because they’re a certain gender.

Don’t get annoyed with me at the comments, but the default is to have some respect for anyone you meet, and then you adjust your ‘respect bar’ accordingly. If he/she is good at what they do, your respect would probably increase. He/she has good personality qualities? You should raise your respect. Are they being nice to you? Respect raised.

And the most important thing: are they respecting you?

See if a woman is laughing and making fun of you, then I’m not assuming you’re going to respect her back. Does that make you a misogynistic pig for not respecting her? No, it just means someone isn’t treating you the way you like to be treated, so you’re obliged to lower your respect for them.

Again, respecting someone personally is slightly different to considering privacy, safety and personal space - which is something everyone to should respect.

So should men respect women?

They Can at the start, but if she turns out to be an idiot, then no one’s telling you to respect her.

#COPIED!

CamusMidas:
Seems I just cross a line.
I half jokingly pointed out to her after sex when I notice blood on my condom and also a bit on bedsheet; told her that she con me into having sex with her on period by been disinterested and not in it, so that when I go ahead she won't be blame.
It started with us both going to the bedroom when she came, we play and discuss a bit, after which I told her to remove her top and bra since she was complaining her inability to sleep, I then told her to remove the trouser she had on which declined and I said no problem.
After some few dramas later, she stood up and said she is going to the living room to sleep, I didn't say anything only for her to call me to the living some 10 minutes later, when I got there she was butt naked; I didn't say a word and just wear my condom and had my way.
That lead us back to the second paragraph, we went to the bathroom to freshing up and we just joking around and catching fun when I pointed her conning to have sex on her period. She picked offense, and I didn't notice it immediately; only for her to wash the bedsheet and beginning putting on her things, by then I could see the seriousness on her face, I try calming her down but she kept crying and kept saying that she want to go home.
Please discuss. Thanks

I see that girl Accusing you of rape anytime soon,na their way be that.
She's just playing mind games on you,crying and all of that bullshit

They cry because they have finally found the Nice responsible man that will save them from being an Evening newspaper. Don't let anybody deceive you that it is love.
Just imagine the number of years they would have spent running from one church to the other, praying for husband.

And one guy just brought the marriage to her on his knees,and you expect her not to cry?

Favfables1:
I'll answer you when you tell me what's the best way a lady can support her man ...

By giving him sex of course

Just get a prostitute/girlfriend,and you won't have any need to masturbate anymore.

Martinez39s:
You are being played by a bitch. Use your head.

He's lucky all the guys in the first page are real niggas. If this thread were infiltrated by females, almost all of them would have told him to go ahead and marry her.
This is why i pity men who ask for Marriage/relationship advice in the family section. That section is filled with "real men" and women who believe in "happy wife,happy home". So you have to make your wife happy(at your own expense) in order for peace to reign.

Rillycool:
Loll.. What a pile of gibberish

I won't be the cause of another quarrel, learn to make Counter arguments without sounding insulting

temi1290:
Dj Cuppy is allegedly dating this dude(asap lerry),as she's unable to get a man in her social class,she decided to date down. Well in happy the guy is utilizing this opportunity to secure mad ass connections, even if they don't get married,he would have gained a whole lot by the time they're done.

This guy is probably the happiest man in the world right now
Dj cuppy is a high value woman with a big and respectable family name,so any man would be happy to have her. Plus, she's not like dem tonto dike and mercy. She is respectful,dresses decently most times(i think),and is actually very humble.
A low value man wouldn't have any problems if he gets married to her,at least that's what i think.