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The best way to learn is by surrounding yourself by Igbo speakers. Do not be deceived since most online "learn Igbo fast" software do not work. I suggest you travel to the East for a year and trust me you will most definitely learn Igbo then.

Hai, Ify onwe mgbe iwu pastor?

ifyalways:
^Ya gaziere gi.
Olisa gozie gi.Chebe gi.Noyere gi.Kpuchie gi.Zaa ekpere gi.Nye gi omumu,ogologo ndu na ahu ike.
Iseeeeee!

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I am not from a tribe.
But as for what you said, almost every Pidgin speaker uses Igbo words in daily life. Words such as "una" and "na" in Pidgin have their origins in Igbo.

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First of all, who told you I was in America? I am not Nnamdi Azikiwe nor am I Kwame Nkruma. Both of them existed in an era much different from ours. In their era, AAs were not affiliated in the same way they are today. In the 60's the "black" world was just gaining independence and they naturally knew they had to encourage those of their brothers who fought for their independence from racism and the segregation.

The character of people now and then have changed, look at the likes of Lil Wayne, 50cent, Young Money, and the "black" proletariats in America. Those are people that I do not want to be affiliated with, not on paper nor by speech so my ethnicity is not "black". They are labelled balck because they were robbed of their ethnic backgrounds through slavery and needed a way to identify themselves, so they chose something that they all had in common---the colour of their skin. I am not prejudicing against anyone so dont make it seem that way.

You are the one degrading yourself. You are saying that your ethnic group is not important or significant enough to be documented or recognised. I am an Igbo and do not want to be regarded as anything else. And also, an easy solution to this problem is by creating an option called "African". Why must we be labelled in the same group as AA "blacks" when Asians have the liberty of selecting their own continent isntead of "yellow"? As for yourself you can be black, white or whatever you like. My opinion is my opinion and I expect you to respect that.

My thoughts exactly. Bu twhy do you think they all developed large populations especially when there are other groups out there with much more land but onyl a fraction of their population?

afam4eva:
I still believe that the present day Igbo, Hausa and Yoruba people come from different tribes that are unrelated with them. But those people assimilated with them. That's why they're called ethnic groups and not tribes. Ethnic group is a combination of people with similar but not the same cultures while tribes are made of of peeps that are as similar as they come. That's how i see it.

BABE!:
Chei! I feel horrible. Ndo. Pele. I'm really sorry. I'll make it up to you--(I don't know how).

Ill hold you accountable for this in the future.

dem_people:
Abeg nwanne no vex. I love pulling that girl's legs. We're best of buddies. That's how we roll. Sorry for the derailment.

Nairaland should really have a private messenger.

Derailment at its worst.

If you are a Southerner you have nothing to fear from MEND. MEND wa set up to protect he Southern  people and they will not stage attacks that will harm Southern indegenes as for Boko Haram, everyone is a target.

mbulela:
so MEND is a Christian organisation?
interesting!!

Of course. On an interview with a militant on television, the reporter saw the head militant say "By the grace of Jesus Christ"

I can only speak for myself.

BABE!:
I know right. The "Gb" alphabet in igbo language is actually pronounced as "gb". So whats up with the "b"--?

Odumchi sorry for derailing abeg.

BABE!:
^^ Is that why you're shining your eyes? lol

We're known for "partying" not "clubbing"---there's a diffrence.

What Ystranger meant by party was "clubbing"--so----

Okeo

Jenifa_:
yea. I've never heard it being pronounced as IGBO. even by igbo people themselves. maybe because their gb sound is very silent?
odumchi should come explain to us why igbo people themselves pronounce the word as ibo.



lol let me guess, . you've attended a couple of owambes.

You know me so well.
And some Igbo people say "Igbo" so fast that if you dont catch it it sounds like "Ibo"

Chei, are you sure you're Yoruba? 

BABE!:
[color=#000099]So you actually pronounce Igbo as I[b]GB[/b]O? Na lie. Is a lie. Even them sef (the igbo people) pronounce it as I[b]b[/b]o.

I dey o. Party? No party for me tonight. I just chilled at a bar with a couple of buddies.

You mean Orgo asin O. Chemistry?

BABE!:
@ Ileke--"Re Mi" and "Mi Do" don't sound the same.

@OP: Good to know.

LOL, youre the first person to acknowledge what Ive done, maybe now I wont feel as if I've wasted my time.

Ystranger:
really, which part are you talking about?

University campuses or mainland or island or the outskirts? Pidgin taking over Lagos?

Leave Vicotria Island and Ikeja and walk around the masses of proletariats all over Lagos city and listen to them speak.

But there are words in Yoruba such as "O[b]gb[/b]omosho" and "[b]gb[/b]enga" that are pronounced the same way as I[b]gb[/b]o, so why is it so hard? But i think thats a discussion for another day.

And yes about Lagos, living in a place like that will not do anyones native language any good. It seems that Pidgin has offically taken over.

Jenifa_:
it's french, some beninois language, yoruba (1:25-1:45) and the rest is english.
the father is giving her daughter away in marriage and will miss his baby girl.

what is ologbogboshimi ni neo ko?
I hope it's not a curse 

Lol no it is not a curse. Infact its just how i hear Yoruba. Everyime i hear a Yoruba speaker they always over emphasize dipthongs such as "gbo" and sounds like "lo". To me Yoruba is just a big roller coaster ride, the accent goes up in pitch and then down then up again.

But thanks for the translation.

Ileke-IdI:
In my opinion, that is not division enough. I met a guy, he spoke french and Yoruba smoothly. It took my more than 8 months to find out that he's Benin. Shocker! Same food, culture, practice etc. Yorubas in Benin and Togo also practice Islam.

He/she says that most Nigerians that can't tell the difference between Efik/Ibibios are ignorant. Said Ibibios are shorter and more devious lmao.


Whaat does that mean?

You cant blame me. I understand a little of both languages and i can barely tell them apart at most times. The second part is just how Yoruba sounds to me. Most of the time when I hear people speak Yoruba, it all sounds the same to me, but I have noticed a heavy accent that is indescribable.

I wish i could understand what was being said. To me, Yoruba sounds like "Ologbogboshimi mi neo ko" with heavy accent.

Jenifa_:
some say cotonou is basically a yoruba city. the dialect is different I agree
What about Egun people from badagry. some say they're not yoruba. how true is that?


I used to love this song as a youngster. It's beninois

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Ileke-IdI:
There's no distinction other than geographical borders. Same religion, culture etc.

My Efik friend would slap you silly if he/she heard you trying to group him/her with Ibibios.

Its just a matter of circumstance. Benin Yorubas learn French, are mostly Catholic/Christian and travel abroad to live in France while Nigerian Yorubas learn English, are Muslim/Christian and travel to the UK. In this situation the white man has created an unnecesary division within your group. This is also the case for Huasas in Niger Republic.

And as for your Efik friend, I dont see many differences between the Ibibios and Efiks, they both speak a variant of Ibibio, practice Ekpe, and what not. If the two groups were to unite, theyd be the 4th largest ethnicity in Nigeria, surpassing Ijaw. And why dont you want to reveal the gender of your friend?

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The same reason why Efiks are not counted as Ibibios.
Im guessing that there is enough distinction between you and they to qualify them as a separate gorup altogether. If it were that way then all of Africa's Hausas would have been counted into Nigeria.

I'd like you all to give your own thoughts on how the populations of these three ethnic groups came to be so large. But here's my own theory:


Hausa:
The Hausas have had strong united traditions. The Hausas were originally a trading people in the Sudanic region of Africa and might have possibly started out with a rather small population. As their trading cities grew in influence, they became centres of migration for traders and merchants all across the Sahel. These traders might have had different backgrounds but all spoke Hausa as a trade language, making "Hausa" more of a linguistic group than an ethnic group. By the time Islam arrived in the Sahel, the Hausa elite and then the commoners converted to the religion and assumed a united "Hausa" identity since after all, they lived in the same place for hundreds of years, spoke Hausa and worshipped Allah. As the trading cities expanded, they attracted more and more people from al across Sudanic Africa and soon they too experienced the cultural diffusion and mixed into the Hausa population.

Igbo:
The Igbo as we all know were never united into one kingdom. They might have xisted in many small independent city-states just like the Germanic kingdoms of the Holy Roman Empire. Trade was also very important in Igbo culture and might have helped increase the Igbo population also. As Igbo-traders expanded outward and settled in various other cities, their influence spread and soon Igbo might have also been adopted as a second language by the peoples and as the Igbo population grew, it might have become the primary language of these poeoples. I m also hypothesizing that the yam has played a large role in the population growth of the Igbos. Yam, was easy to grow and required little land as compared to crops such as sorghum, bailey and etc which grew in the North. This reduced the need of land to feed large populations and effectively dictated the size of modern day Igboland. Yam could not be grown succesfully in the Northern plateu of the country thus making Igboland a "tropical" land.

Yoruba:
The Yorubas, like their Hausa counterparts, also had strong communal traditions. Much of Yorubaland has been united twice, first under the Yoruba kings of Ife and Oyo and twice under the Binis. The Yorubas had minor trading cities but trade did not play as much importance in its culture as it did to the other two. With the empire secure, and all Yoruba speakers united under one ruler, the people were free to multiply and epand, and with the arrival of Islam, polygamy spread much further allowing for a large population boom.

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I am only "black" in the sense that I am a sub-Saharan African. Infact, my skin is not even black at all (Not that theres anything wrong with that) I am light brown. I would hate to be descirbed as "black" since the term is synonymous with AAs.

Okoronkwo nwa Nkwo nwarawa nweta nwei Nwankwo.