₦airaland Forum

@ Original Poster That is where you are wrong.

1. Igbo has two forms. The first form is central Igbo while the second form is a much more complex and unique form of Igbo, the dialect.
The Average Igboman can say whatever he wants in both forms of Igbo. I am not sure if this is the case for Hausa. An example of this is:

Central Igbo: Anyi na yo Chukwu ayiyo
My Own Dialect Dialect Igbo: An' na ro Chukwu aririo

Despite the different words, they both share the same meaning "We beg God". Igbo like Andreh Uweh said is far beyond the literal. Some expressions such as "suffering" have dual meanings which can only be understood by someone who is proficient in Igbo. For example:

"ita avuvu" Literal meaning: Eating a bitter or repulsive thing. Metaphorical: Suffering.

So thats Igbo for you. Igbo is a rich word that has a word for everything and a way to express every possible idea. If you go to the cities you will meet people who dilute Igbo with English, but go to the villages and you will meet people who speak pure and unadultered Igbo. I am not saying that there arenot perfect Igbo speakers in the cities but if you want to know the true version of Igbo, you must find the genesis. So in short, yes Igbo is still as pure as any language despite what people may say.

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Are you sure its an Igbo word?

Churches serve the same roles as Mosques. They are often rally points and political pools of support as displayed by our last election. A powerful string of imams can easily deside the outcome of a governership or senatorial election just as a string of Christian churches can decide the result of Nigerias presidential elections.

Chai! Unu achoro ikwurum na inha bu soso ndigbo no na Nairaland?
Ndigbo ebe k'inyi no?

I would invite the leaders of Boko haram fo peace talks and offer them millions of Naira only if they agree to meet with me. As they walk into the house, I will arrest each of them and send them to Abuja for trial and imprisonment rather than execution since that would make them martyrs.

Secondly, Ill dispatch thousands of Nigeria's reserves into the troubled states.

Where were the police when all these things were happening?
Did this thing really happen in Lagos? I was guessing it happened somewhere in the Sharia North since Sharia Law can be very cruel at times.
I cannot believe that people can be so wicked, surely this man is resting in peace.

African China talked about something like this in his song Mr. President. He said "Poor man wey thief maggi omo dem go show you face for crime fighter, rich man wey thief money omo dem nogo see your face for crime fighter, tell me soemthing I go do"

They are only speeding up the desertification of Nigeria. If you like you can compare this with the Mongol incursions. the Mongols were running out of grazing space and had destroyed their lands. They further went around causing havoc. If by some chance that the Fulanis are powerful or fortunate enough to have established permanent grazing ggrounds in the South, in a few hundred years the Sahara might reach the Bight of Benin and the Bight of Biafra.

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How am I an African American? Was I born in America? Do I have slave ancestry? I am an Igbo African, not an AA, Black or etc. Im guessing youre an African American yourself and you have no right to vent your anger towards me or any other Africans disagreeing with the way we are labelled.

If you like you can be whatever you like but as for myself, my identity remains stagnant. Kindly explain to me how am a bigot for choosing to identify myself in the way i feel proper?

What would we do without people like you

Hello everyone. Id like to discuss the absence of proper "ethnic" recognition of our various ethnic origins in the West. Im sure many of you who live abroad in the USA or Europe may have come across a form like this.

Check your ethnicity:

[ ]White

[ ]Hispanic

[ ]Black/Afrcian American

[ ]Asian

[ ]Native American

[ ]Other please state:______

As for myself forms like this anger me since there is no clear option for my ethnicity. I am not "black" because black is a skin colour not an ethnicity and I am not an "African American" since I am not the descendant of slaves. And most of the time such a form does not even leave the option "other" restricting my ability to properly identify myself. Ive had second thoughts of sueing such organisations for not giving proper respect to my ethnic origin or properly allowing me to identify myself.

I'd like to know how those of us here in Nigeria and and Abroad feel when confronted with such forms and how you go about answering them.

[b]I doubt this story  is true. How can a few Fulani Herdsman raid an entire community (tens of thousands of people) and escape? It is not like the north where entire communities may be just 500 people this is the south that we are talking about, my own community has nearly 300,000 people imagine 10 herdsmen raiding us and escaping.

Secondly cows are not aeroplanes and they cannot be ridden. So how can they attack in the night and vanish by morning? Lets say that they had horses, how can such a thing happen? How would their horses cope in the tsetse-fly south? And who would not suspect a dozen Fulani jihadists riding on horses armed with machets?

Until further information comes, I consider this a joke. Igboland and the South Eastern geographic zone of Nigeria is far from Fulani Land which is hundreds of miles to the far north. So why would a couple of herdsmen trek or ride hundreds of miles to the South, cause some trouble and then leave? And if they did come to the south why didnt they make any trouble in Igalaland before hitting Igboland? [/b]

Just a few things to consider.

The saying that we are a homogenous ethnicity. One language, one tradition, one culture.

No problem, I am already there. 

And yes I agree with you it really is difficult. But if so then doe sthat defeat our "labelisation" as a homogenous ethnicity?

I am thoroughly amazed that such a thing could have happened. Chai! umu okorobia Umuapku mo ihe obula wo kuruya, Ivoro mekwa inyi!

If this had happened in my hometown, our warriors would have already castrated them and sent them back to the North running without any hesitation. My people no de joke, weven in nearby Ohafia if such a thing happened, they would have sacraficed them to their deity and used their cattle for pepper soup. Nomadism does not have any share in the South east of Nigeria or the South for that matter.

Negro_Ntns:
Abagworo:
@odumchi,The Aros are descended from three groups of Igbo,Ibibio and Akpa.That is the case for most Igbos and other Nigerian ethnic groups.We are all mix of people but linguistically dominant in one and recessive in the others.That is what makes the OPs question a difficult one.


SPeak to Aro issue. What do you mean other ethnic grps?

Ok, like who?

Aros are not descended from Ibibios though i must admit that the empire itself was founded with the help of two Igbo generals and an Ibibo or Akpa prince. The land that we now reside on was originally Ibibio but after the Aro-Ibibio wars, the Igbos from central Igboland came and settled here. Because the Aros alligned themselves with an Ibibio prince in the war does not mean that we are descended from them and remember, Igbos migrated form the north of the SE and the Ibibios resided in the South near the Atlantic coast so its a near impossibilty for both of these groups to bopth have inhabited the same area at the same time and unite to create an atogether new clan- Aroos. Even if such a union had occurred the Aros would have adopted Ibibio as their native language since at that time (1600s) there was a major Ibibio presence in the area.

Yes they are. Aro people are descendants of one of the original Igbo clans that settled in the SE.
Think of Igbo as being this, a man and a woman both spoke Igbo and their Igbo was the same. They both multiplied and had children. Their children had children and they moved out to settle in different places and they countinued to multiply and resettle. As they multiplied and diversified, their Igbo languages fragmented into many separate and distinguishable forms of the same original Igbo their ancestors spoke and that is how the separate Igbo clans or "mba's" came to be.

Abagworo:
@op.Your question is not well placed because there is nothing like Igbo descent.I think they might be of Nri and ancient Bini descent like most other Delta Igbos.

I don't think one can even get a clearer answer if Eastern Igbos descent is questioned.

Are Aro people of Igbo descent?

Are Abiriba people of Igbo descent?

Are Oguta people of Igbo descent?

Are Ohaji people of Igbo descent?

Are Owerri/Oratta people of Igbo descent?

Are Isu/Isoama people of Igbo descent?

Are Orsu people of Igbo descent?

Are Nri people of Igbo descent?

Are Awka people of Igbo descent?

Apart from Delta,Anambra and Enugu States are Igbos of Nri descent found as full clan in Abia,Imo,Ebonyi and Rivers?

Arent Inudtrialization and development the same thing?  

And since Im already here, people just need:

the peace of mind knowing that your home will not get robbed when you sleep
steady electricity
traversable roads

and everythin else will follow.

@ Negro Ntns and Afrodiva

Based on the information that you provided from Diva it seems that you are supporting his/her perspective on this topic and what does that then render you? Secondly I'd like to say that Ive seen you hovering around Igbo threads like a flie on fresh fesis, so let me crack the question, are you Igbo? If not why are you then obsessed with the occurances and events of other people? I suspect that you are not even an easterner so then I suggest you pertain to issues regarding you and your people.

But I'd like to ask, since when was the Igbo population declining? I suspect that the Igbo population was always larger than that of the Yorubas to begin with. The Igbos lost 1 million people in the Biafran war which was 1 tenth of their population in 1970 (10 million). Today our population is around 35 million so to transform that into today's population it would have been an extra 3.5 million people today making us 38.5 mllion, far larger than the Yoruba 32 million or so.

Thirdly, Id like to make it clear to all the Yorubas and Igbos are not rivals. Why are the bigotic lot of you here on NL constantly bearing our names in your mouths? We have little regard for you people as competitors in the game not to talk of rivals so let us end that chapter.

Lastly, Biafra my friend is not dead. But when was Oduduwa republic ever alive? It is only a faint imagination, a sketch on a peace of canvas, a plan to daring and radical to be expressed: it only exists in your skulls. The bad lot of Yorubas (not all are bad only a handful) are only beginning to concieve something that the Igbos did 44 years ago, and you claim yoursleves to be rivals? The igbos have dones uch a thing and have already made history. Now it can be forever said that once upon a time, an Igbo man had enough courage to declare his people independant from a state which they refused to exist in and that is what matters.

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6 if you count Rivers State.