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Politics / Re: Throwback: Obi Wins His Polling Unit, Atiku Loses Polling Unit by Ojuntana: 1:05pm On Jul 24, 2022
garfield1:


1 the kanuris are the most numerous ethnicity in the north east dominating borno,yobe and have a good number in bauchi.where atiku hails from Jada is dominated by kilbas and chambas,there are no fulanis in that axis.

2 shettima is not a moderate Muslim.he is already being fingered or suspected to have ties with boko which points to extremism.again,choosing a Muslim will out him at an advantage among radical Muslims.atiku may be bigger in influence but shettima has more electoral value.borno/yobe where he hails from gives apc bloc votes, pdp has never won here.since he became governor in 2011,he delivers massively for any buhari party and yobe always vote in similar pattern.he completely disloged his godfather sheriff.can you say the same for atiku who always struggles to win his state or wield influence beyond his state?

Tinubu has more advantage than atiku up north.he has more political connections,a stronger party structure and reach,federal might,yobe/borno bloc votes,more governors working for him,more funds,Muslim Muslim ticket....if buhari decides to campaign for him up north,hmmmm
See the screenshot below. Atiku's grandfather migrated according to the Wikipedia page of Atiku. So, unless you and your pen friend have a better proof. I think this stands.

Politics / Re: Terrorists Threaten To Abduct Buhari, Flog Train Victims In Fresh Video by Ojuntana: 11:59am On Jul 24, 2022
Stupid terrorists!!
They should do whatever they want to do and stop disturbing our Peace
Islam for Muslims / Re: Q&A: The Ruling On Eating With Spoons by Ojuntana: 7:46am On Jul 24, 2022
compton11:
Do u eat with spoon too cos Jesus never used spoon.
Jesus never gave us hadiths on his to shite. Ours is a religion of liberty not bondage.
The hadith of your prophet said you shouldn't talk when shitting because there are djinns that get attracted to shit and they can enter your mouth.
Do you see such ridiculous ruling by Jesus?
Baba learn to eat with your three fingers and stop comparing apples with oranges grin
Politics / Re: David Hundeyin Replies A Nairaland Topic by Ojuntana: 9:32pm On Jul 23, 2022
ThatFairGuy1:
Yes.

What else?

Who gave you that title?
Politics / Re: We Don’t Want To Associate With Gov Matawalle – Zamfara APC Decampees To PDP by Ojuntana: 9:28pm On Jul 23, 2022
garfield1 Zamfara has joined Kaduna, Katsina and Kebbi

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Politics / Re: David Hundeyin Replies A Nairaland Topic by Ojuntana: 8:41pm On Jul 23, 2022
ThatFairGuy1:
We dash David Hudenyi to the East, he shouldn't identify with Yoruba.

Why shouldn't he identify as Yoruba

Are you the official authenticator of the Yoruba people?
Jobs/Vacancies / Re: My Ordeal With GNLD Neolife Today by Ojuntana: 5:31pm On Jul 23, 2022
ajekpaks:
I remember entering their trap in Lagos... omo they nearly tied me down with rope just to keep me there...

the idiot telling me about firing my boss and becoming a boss of myself claims to be in level 4, but even a jobless me then looked better and dressed better...

after challenging him he began to threaten me... it almost became violent, and seeing they outnumbered me I just had to calm down and take their bullshut until I left
grin cheesy grin cheesy
Islam for Muslims / Re: Q&A: The Ruling On Eating With Spoons by Ojuntana: 5:13pm On Jul 23, 2022
AntiChristian:


See big lie! Mark was a disciple!

Subhanallah!

About Hearsay
Luke 1:1-4
New International Version
Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word. With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

1. Who does "Many" refer to?
2. Isn't Luke just a historian like this?

And yes, Muhammad recited the Qur'an many time and many of his companions memorised it fully! This never happened at any point in time for the Bible.
Many refers to other converts who received directly from the eyewitnesses. I never mentioned Luke. Luke was a historian. No one doubts that Matthew and John are eyewitnesses even if you want to argue that of Mark.
Look at the part in green which you obviously failed to see due to your jaundiced eye. Luke alluded to eyewitnesses. Can you point to anywhere in the Quran where there is an eyewitness to the revelation purportedly received by Muhammad? Even Muhammad never claimed to see the Jibreel he said speaks to him. Their were different accounts and versions of the Quran after his death which were written down and the Caliph Umar had them all burned while retaining his preferred version which y'all use till today. Now tell me which looks more like hearsay!!

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Is Pork Haram? by Ojuntana: 3:30pm On Jul 23, 2022
compton11:
can't Yahweh send Micheal to deliver a message again?
What does Michael have to do with this?

and Allah does?
Ask Muhammad who said Mary is Aaron's sister

and u now concluded it was angel the fact that the verse never said it was an angel
It was a vision and a voice came from heaven. Is that not the same thing that Muhammad claimed to hear and you all call revelation? If you doubt that how then do you accept that of Muhammad? shocked
Politics / Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 3:26pm On Jul 23, 2022
compton11:
arindin,is like saying anybody from Oyo must be lineage of alaafin gringrin



U ain't making sense at all.

Where did u even see the rubbish u are spewing?

Lol. See mumu trying diversion. Mary is a Bethlehemite from the city of David. Levites don't have city in the Bible. There were never given any portion of land as theirs. A levite is usually referred to as Levite from Ephraim for example. Nobody refers to a Levite as an Ephraimite.
So your stupid reason is a capital lie. Mary is not from the Levite tribe. She is a Bethlehemite of the lineage of David.


Mr counter, how do they count it?

What do you want to do with it?

and what makes your dumb ass think the sister there is blood sister?


And pathetic thing is u are lying upon lies, where is evidence that Mary was from Bethlehem or was born there?
Explain what kind of sister it is then. Jews don't identify themselves based on familial ties. They identify based on patrilineal lines. So to claim Mary is a descendant of Aaron by sisterhood whatever that nonsense means is to fabricate your own genealogy that does not conform with Jewish standards. So you have to show proof that such genealogy exists or else na another taqiyya


nah nigga im learning from u, quote the verse out where her geneology was stated.
Luke 3. Go and read

the lies of Jews was exposed in the Qur'an gringrin
Lol. The same Quran that says Mary mother of Jesus is Aaron's sister grin grin Badly written Quran exposed the lies of Jews. What lies exactly?


quote it out where Mary father was called hiel In the Bible.
Luke 3:23 Now Jesus himself was about thirty years old when he began his ministry. He was the son, so it was thought, of Joseph,
the son of Heli,


in Islamic perspective I don't know cos Qur'an never mentioned name of Musa sister or name of their father just like Bible never mentioned name of Mary's father.

That's because the quran badly copied the Bible. There's no way a copycat will copy perfectly you have to agree. Another fable is the absurd claim that Jesus was replaced by someone else on the cross. When Roman records clearly shows that Jesus' crucifixion indeed happened. The historicity of the crucifixion of Jesus in the Bible is not in doubt as it is well detailed and clear while that of Quran seems like a badly rehearsed fable that is incomplete and unverifiable. For example, the person who was said to replace Jesus on the cross, what is his name and where does he come from?

ok

Explain why Joseph the carpenter was called son of David.

The term son of David is to imply that he is of the lineage of David and not that he is biological son. Jews trace their genealogy through the male line and the descendants are always direct. No sister or brother or cousin or uncle in genealogies. That is why it is easy to spot Mary sister of Aaron as a mistake because it makes no sense whatsoever to refer to Mary as sister of Aaron, moreso when she was not from Aaron's line. Aaron was a levite. Mary was from Judah. So how will you call someone from Judah "sister" to a Levite when all the children of Israel are actually brothers and sisters to one another. You cannot ever be able to explain it.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Q&A: The Ruling On Eating With Spoons by Ojuntana: 3:03pm On Jul 23, 2022
NobleStag007:



Hadith

"حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى بْنُ يَحْيَى، أَخْبَرَنَا أَبُو مُعَاوِيَةَ، عَنْ هِشَامِ بْنِ عُرْوَةَ، عَنْ عَبْدِ الرَّحْمَنِ،
بْنِ سَعْدٍ عَنِ ابْنِ كَعْبِ بْنِ مَالِكٍ، عَنْ أَبِيهِ، قَالَ كَانَ رَسُولُ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم يَأْكُلُ
بِثَلاَثِ أَصَابِعَ وَيَلْعَقُ يَدَهُ قَبْلَ أَنْ يَمْسَحَهَا ‏.‏"


Ibn Ka'b b. Malik reported on the authority of his father that the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) used to eat (food) with three fingers and he licked his hand before wiping it (with towel).

Sahih

Sahih Muslim, 2032 b
In-Book Reference: Book 36, Hadith 171
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 23, Hadith 5040 (deprecated numbering scheme)


Hadith

"وَحَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ حَاتِمٍ، وَأَبُو بَكْرِ بْنُ نَافِعٍ الْعَبْدِيُّ قَالاَ حَدَّثَنَا بَهْزٌ، حَدَّثَنَا حَمَّادُ،
بْنُ سَلَمَةَ حَدَّثَنَا ثَابِتٌ، عَنْ أَنَسٍ، أَنَّ رَسُولَ اللَّهِ صلى الله عليه وسلم كَانَ إِذَا أَكَلَ طَعَامًا
لَعِقَ أَصَابِعَهُ الثَّلاَثَ ‏.‏ قَالَ وَقَالَ ‏"‏ إِذَا سَقَطَتْ لُقْمَةُ أَحَدِكُمْ فَلْيُمِطْ عَنْهَا الأَذَى وَلْيَأْكُلْهَا
وَلاَ يَدَعْهَا لِلشَّيْطَانِ ‏"‏ ‏.‏ وَأَمَرَنَا أَنْ نَسْلُتَ الْقَصْعَةَ قَالَ ‏"‏ فَإِنَّكُمْ لاَ تَدْرُونَ فِي أَىِّ طَعَامِكُمُ
الْبَرَكَةُ ‏"‏ ‏.‏"

Anas reported that when Allah's Messenger (ﷺ) ate food he licked his three fingers, and he said:
When any one of you drops a mouthful he should remove anything filthy from it and then eat it, and should not leave it for the Satan. He also commanded us that we should wipe the dish saying: You do not know in what portion of your food the blessing lies.

Sahih

Sahih Muslim, 2034
In-Book Reference: Book 36, Hadith 180
USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 23, Hadith 5049 (deprecated numbering scheme)






I want to hear what you will say about the fact that YOU ARE REPLACING THE SUNNAH OF ROSUL WITH "SPOON "

Compton11
Do you eat with spoon too?
Politics / Re: Throwback: Obi Wins His Polling Unit, Atiku Loses Polling Unit by Ojuntana: 11:53am On Jul 23, 2022
garfield1:


You have correctly captured everything.it is what I have been trying to point out all this while.tinubu will thrash him up north.cc kyase,ojuntana,fergie001, majole
You will just swallow things without logically analysing it.
The person you quoted said:
1. Atiku is not fulani. He made this allegation without proof and failed to mention his tribe. He then claimed he's from a micro- minority. Well, Shettima is also from a minority tribe. Besides that, Atiku is already well known across the North based on his political antecedents while Tinubu is relying on the Buhari-induced APC popularity.
2. Atiku is a moderate Muslim. While that might be true, Tinubu is also regarded as such.
Shettima who is expected to back him up is not also regarded as extremist in the mould of an El-Rufai for example. In the NE where both hail from, who is the bigger name between shettima and Atiku?
3. He already agreed that BAT is easily seen as the most corrupt politician today while Atiku is second to him so I don't see how that works against Atiku.
Now, Tinubu, if he wants to win MUST win the North. He does not have the luxury OBJ or GEJ had of being popular in the South. In fact I've said it, if Tinubu wins, he'll be the first president in Nigerian history who won without support of the zone he represents.
But he has to do that by winning in both NE, NC and NW. This he will be the first to beat a big politician in his own zone.

Whether he'll be able to do this is left to be seen but from facts on ground presently, Tinubu does not hold any advantage over Atiku in the North. Maybe things will change when campaign starts though

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Is Pork Haram? by Ojuntana: 9:18am On Jul 23, 2022
compton11:
and if I drink it then what happened?

And u are doing as if they Don't use animal urine as drug


Horse urine is part of what they make a drug called premarin.



what culture?
Not if. You MUST drink camel urine else you're not a good Muslim. A good Muslim follows the sunnah and hadith of the prophet.
Show me picture of people drinking a chilled glass of horse urine.

Edo culture.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Is Pork Haram? by Ojuntana: 9:08am On Jul 23, 2022
compton11:

Cos Quran is his word.

oh Qur'an was giving by Yahweh then.



where did the verse make mention of angel talking there?
Lol. So Allah is now same with Jibreel? I thought Allah had no other name than Allah?

Never!! Yahweh does not plagiarize

The verse said it was a vision and he heard a voice from heaven. It's definitely an angel that speaks to one from heaven in a vision don't you agree grin
Politics / Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 9:05am On Jul 23, 2022
compton11:
so because she was Bethlehemite make her automatically a lineage of David? gringrin

Be deceving yourself there.




read it out for me and show me where her geneology was mentioned. gringrin



when did Quran tell that Miriam of B
OT and Mary are same thing?




nigga,let your Bible story be to u and let my Qur'anic story be to me.



Qur'an never mentioned the name of father of Musa and Aaron just like Bible never mentioned the name of Mary's father's name.


And why u acting as if the name amran is not common among the Jews?


U are the one that told me that the Jacob mentioned as father of Joseph the carpenter wasn't the same as Joseph of Egypt,so why u acting as if multiple people can't bear same name?
Bethlehem is the city of David. Anyone from there is from David's lineage. If you don't know how Jews count their genealogy go and find out. Anyway, since she's from Bethlehem, she can't be sister to Aaron as your Quran points out.

Her genealogy is in Luke. I can't read it out for you cause your badly copied Quran already filled your head with lies.

It's obvious it was a mistake. The copycat mistook Miriam sister of Aaron for Mary mother of Jesus which is why he took Miriam's father's name for Mary's.

Mary's father's name is Hiel. It's in Luke 3.
Quran copycats mixed both up due to their poor knowledge of both characters. It is also obvious that a lot of the so-called revelations in the Quran are actually hearsay which were prevalent in that time about Jewish history. It is for example why Quran claims that Jesus was not crucified but someone else was used to replace him on the cross. It's one of the Jewish apologetics he adopted.

Do you then imply that both Miriam and Mary's fathers have same name? grin

It's not the same and the evidence is there in Matthew. Jacob father of Joseph in OT has Isaac as his father while Jacob father of Joseph in NT has Eliezer as his father. Except you mean Isaac, a well known character in OT also bears Eliezer grin
Islam for Muslims / Re: Q&A: The Ruling On Eating With Spoons by Ojuntana: 7:45am On Jul 23, 2022
AntiChristian:


Yes, Jesus didn't write the Bible nor authorized anyone to write anything on his behalf. We know it was written by some men writing from hearsay!

But why do you guys love diverting away from any question asked? Is that a Holy spirit thing or what?
Muhammad didn't write the Quran either so what's your point? Even his hadiths, y'all argue over which is authentic and which isn't.
Matthew, Mark and John were disciples of Christ who were with him. So I don't know how you'll call their writings hearsay.
Meanwhile the dude who was writing Quran for Muhammad never heard what he wrote directly. He was writing what Muhammad told him based on what Muhammad supposedly heard from an unseen source. That's the perfect definition of hearsay!!

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Politics / Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 7:14am On Jul 23, 2022
compton11:
so u know that and your dumbass refused to accept that of Mary.



keep deceiving yourself theregringrin
Luke 3:23 Even called him son of Eli gringrin not Jacob



Which David? gringrin

No be only David,put davido join.

Where is the evidence she is the bloodline of David?

that is how they have been using it in the olden day just like how Joseph the carpenter is son of David.


Qur'an came to unveil the lies of the unknown writers.



hehehe shukẹ

U feel tell me the father of Mary in OT?


it is obvious all Muhammed came to unveil all the lies.
She's a Bethlehemite and Bethlehem is the town of David. Read Luke 3 for her genealogy.
Stay on the topic. Why did Quran mix Mary mother of Jesus with Miriam sister of Aaron and Moses? Did the Angel make a mistake here? Or it's Muhammad who misheard? grin
Note that he then went and called Mary's father Imran which is the name of Moses, Aaron and Miriam's father.
So if Quran is the truth and the Bible was lying about the father of Moses, Aaron and Miriam, can you give us the name of their father different from Imran according to the "truthful" Quran?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Is Pork Haram? by Ojuntana: 7:09am On Jul 23, 2022
compton11:
it is Sahih Hadith and the prophet recommended it,so what happened?

Drinking or local application of human or animal urine for medicinal purposes has been practiced all over the world for millennia
Good so why have you not been drinking camel's urine as medicine you disobedient child? You should be flogged for disobeying the prophet!!
Which all over the world is that? I'm not aware in my culture of drinking urine o shocked
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Is Pork Haram? by Ojuntana: 7:08am On Jul 23, 2022
compton11:
Allah made all laws in Qur'an.

I asked question and u did as if u don't see it.

Evidence that angel made the law in act of apostle.
Give evidence that Allah made all laws in the Quran.
The Quran was not given by Allah. So how can you now claim that the laws there are from Allah? Allah himself never spoke in the Quran.

Acts 10:15
The voice spoke to him a second time, “Do not call anything impure that God has made clean
Islam for Muslims / Re: Q&A: The Ruling On Eating With Spoons by Ojuntana: 6:56am On Jul 23, 2022
AntiChristian:


Yeah! The Prophet did not ride in cars, eat rice , wear shirts, use mobile phones, etc. Since Jesus too didn't use all these then does that make you better than him?

This is the reason I no respond to asinine mentions again.
Jesus does not have hadith for us to read and follow.
Muhammad has. Read Muhammad's hadith and follow it.
Or have you read where Jesus gave a ruling on how to shit?
Hypocrite!!

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Politics / Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 8:58pm On Jul 22, 2022
compton11:
who told u na Bible Miriam of Moses and Aaron?

In the olden days,It was common to use "sister of" or "son of" to refer to people, especially if the people they referred them to are righteous people,that was the reason why Mary was called sister of Aaron there plus Mary is related to Aaron through Levites and u are doing as if the same isn't in the Bible.

In Matthew 1:20, Joseph the carpenter was called son of David.


In Matthew 1:16, Jacob was called the father of Joseph the carpenter again.

And also Jesus was called son of David in Matthew 21:9 and in many other verse



And NB my nigga ojutana, Miriam or whatever wasn't recorded as biology sister to Moses and Aaron in the Qur'an.
Keep quiet there with your taqiyya.
Son of David refers to the fact that David is his patriarch. The patriarchal system has stays been used to identify people since time immemorial even up to now.
Jacob referred to in Matthew 1:16 is different from Jacob of Genesis. That Jacob has Eliezer as his father and Jacob of Genesis has Isaac as his father.
And for your information, Mary is of the bloodline of David so why wasn't she referred to as daughter of David but sister of Aaron? When did sisterhood become a means of identify genealogy? Can you give other examples from the Quran of such genealogy through sisterhood?
Is it not obvious that Muhammad will plagiarizing got confused and misinterpreted Mary mother of Jesus to be one and the same with Miriam sister of Aaron?
Is it a coincidence that he misspelt Mary as Maryam when it is obvious Miriam is not mentioned at all in the quran? For your information, Mary"s father in the quran is Imran while Miriam and Moses father in the Bible is Amram.
It is thus obvious that Muhammad plagiarized the OT and couldn't even do so competently.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Is Pork Haram? by Ojuntana: 8:33pm On Jul 22, 2022
compton11:
arindin what I meant is that it is medicine common among the arab.

It is used to cure certain diseases.
Is it in the hadith or not? All this Arab medicine na turenchi.
The prophet recommended it or not? Or do you mean the prophet's recommendations are only for Arabs?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Is Pork Haram? by Ojuntana: 8:31pm On Jul 22, 2022
compton11:
angel.

Yahweh dey make law,angel too dey make law.

Who dash monkey banana?

Plus give me evidence where angel could commanded that pork should be eaten.

Who made all the laws in the Quran? Was it not an angel? Did Muhammad ever hear directly from Allah? So what problem do you have with Angel giving laws?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Is Pork Haram? by Ojuntana: 6:57pm On Jul 22, 2022
compton11:
it is medicine for Arab,how is it Haram?
So you mean the hadith on camel's urine is for Arabs only?

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Is Pork Haram? by Ojuntana: 6:56pm On Jul 22, 2022
compton11:
u despise act.

Who made the act law?
An Angel.
Islam for Muslims / Re: Q&A: The Ruling On Eating With Spoons by Ojuntana: 6:36pm On Jul 22, 2022
AntiChristian:
I dey eat with spoon wella. Whoever says we shouldn't eat with spoon is an ignoramus and extremist!


But the prophet did not eat with spoons

Are you saying you're better than the prophet?

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Islam for Muslims / Re: The Prohibition Of Looking At Another Person’s Private Part (awrah) by Ojuntana: 6:32pm On Jul 22, 2022
AntiChristian:
Alhamdulillah for Islam that curbs nudity, homosexualism, fornication, etc from its root.

Lower your gaze!

And marry four women with hope of 72 more!!

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Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Is Pork Haram? by Ojuntana: 6:29pm On Jul 22, 2022
compton11:
the verse u quoted is wrong plus where did God made pig clean?

Lol. You defend Deuteronomy but despise Acts. Is it not obvious to you already that Muhammad plagiarized the OT Bible to form his so-called revelations?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Why Is Pork Haram? by Ojuntana: 6:23pm On Jul 22, 2022
compton11:
Come and see how Protestants Christians would be saying if pork is Haram,then why did Allah created it.

Nigga! not all created animals are for eaten,plus pig can be used for other things like it's leather for bag,shoes and some other things,and it isn't Haram for Muslims to used these things except it is Haram to eat it's meat.





Deuteronomy 14:8

The pig, because it divides the hoof but does not chew the cud, it is unclean for you. You shall not eat any of their flesh nor touch their carcasses.




What about Camel urine? Is it halal or haram?
Politics / Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 4:43pm On Jul 22, 2022
ArewaNorth:


Some Islamic description of Jesus:

Jesus, Mary, and the angel Gabriel are all prominent characters in the Qur’an (as are Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, and a bunch of other Bible characters).
Muslims believe that Jesus (called “Isa” in Arabic) was a prophet of God and was born to a virgin (Mary). They also believe he will return to Earth before the Day of Judgment to restore justice and defeat al-Masih ad-Dajjal, or “the false messiah” — also known as the Antichrist. All of this may sound pretty familiar to many Christians.
Mary (called “Maryam” in Arabic) has an entire chapter in the Qur’an named for her — the only chapter in the Qur’an named for a female figure. In fact, Mary is the only woman to be mentioned by name in the entire Qur’an. As noted in the Study Quran, “other female figures are identified only by their relation to others, such as the wife of Adam and the mother of Moses, or by their title, such as the Queen of Sheba.” Mary is mentioned more times in the Qur’an than in the entire New Testament of the Bible.
Just as they do with all the other prophets, including Mohammed, devout Muslims recite “peace be upon him” after every time they refer to Jesus by name.
Muslims believe that Jesus performed miracles: The Qur’an discusses several of Jesus’s miracles, including giving sight to the blind, healing lepers, raising the dead, and breathing life into clay birds.
The story of Jesus’s birth as told in the Qur’an is also the story of his first miracle, when he spoke as an infant in the cradle and declared himself to be a prophet of God. Here’s the Islamic perspective:
And remember Mary in the Book, when she withdrew from her family to an eastern place. And she veiled herself from them. Then We [God] sent unto her Our Spirit [the angel Gabriel], and it assumed for her the likeness of a perfect man. She said, "I seek refuge from thee in the Compassionate [i.e., God], if you are reverent!" He said, "I am but a messenger of thy Lord, to bestow upon thee a pure boy."

She said, "How shall I have a boy when no man has touched me, nor have I been unchaste?" He said, "Thus shall it be. Thy Lord says, ‘It is easy for Me.’" And [it is thus] that We might make him a sign unto mankind, and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter decreed.

So she conceived him and withdrew with him to a place far off. And the pangs of childbirth drove her to the trunk of a date palm. She said, "Would that I had died before this and was a thing forgotten, utterly forgotten!" So he called out to her from below her, "Grieve not! Thy Lord has placed a rivulet beneath thee. And shake toward thyself the trunk of the date palm; fresh, ripe dates shall fall upon thee. So eat and drink and cool thine eye. And if thou seest any human being, say, ‘Verily I have vowed a fast unto the Compassionate, so I shall not speak this day to any man.’"

Then she came with him [the infant Jesus] unto her people, carrying him. They said, "O Mary! Thou hast brought an amazing thing! O sister of Aaron Thy father was not an evil man, nor was thy mother unchaste." Then she pointed to him [Jesus]. They said, "How shall we speak to one who is yet a child in the cradle?"

He [Jesus] said, "Truly I am a servant of God. He has given me the Book and made me a prophet. He has made me blessed wheresoever I may be, and has enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I live, and [has made me] dutiful toward my mother. And He has not made me domineering, wretched. Peace be upon me the day I was born, the day I die, and the day I am raised alive!"

That is Jesus son of Mary— a statement of the truth, which they doubt.

So although Muslims do not believe that Jesus is the son of God — a critically important distinction between Muslim and Christian views of him — Muslims do revere Jesus as an important prophet.

Hold on. What am I reading in the bolded here?
You guys believe Mary the mother of Jesus was same with Miriam sister of Aaron and Moses? shocked

Compton11, Antichristian Come thou and see what I saw in the hilly Quran
Politics / Re: Bishop David Abioye Condemns Tinubu's Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Ojuntana: 4:05pm On Jul 22, 2022
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It is what most of you screaming about it imply. That's how politics is played. You don't use exact words at all.

Also, what I get from most of the people screaming Muslim-muslim is that in the event Tinubu wins, it means that Muslims will try the islamisation project....

The same argument was made under Buhari....

All in all, I am tired of hearing the religion excuse...Muslim or christian, and it annoys me most Nigerians cannot see past religion.,
Again!! Putting words in people's mouth just so you can nail them to the cross. Did CAN say Muslims are evil or Babachir Lawal for example who has been one of the supporters of Tinubu presidency? Do you mean asking for your rights from those who seek to deny you of your rights means you hate them? I'm sure you're one of those who opposed Endsars protest. Double faced people like you are not easy to spot especially with your shenanigans? Asking for a mixed faith ticket in a religiously sensitive country like Nigeria is not because of hatred. It is to foster peaceful coexistence and a sense of belonging without which there can be no meaningful progress. Get it straight. And I don't know who you've been talking to but opposition to the Muslim Muslim ticket is to prevent relegation of a large section of the society to second class citizen, giving them a voice where it matters most and not any islamization. Buhari who was accused of Islamization had a Christian VP. So maybe you should change the company you keep.




I am not voting for Tinubu.
I'm sure you expect me to believe that while it can be easy for me to say that is what you imply with your outburst against CAN. I can also say almost all those I know who have opposed CAN do so because they intend to vote Tinubu so I count you as one of them. You see how it is now?


And then CAN too should take your advice. As should MURIC, and most of you Obidients.

As for me, I am not voting for TInubu, Obi, Atiku or Kwakwaso. APC and PDP memebrs they are...and they are responsible for the mess our economy is in right now. No thank you, and I am no bigot.


I'm Obidient? And you know that because.... See how you easily label people but pick offense when you're labelled. If you are not voting them then campaign for your preferred candidate instead of attacking people who are expressing their preference.

So, why are ye voting for Datti Ahmed as Obi's VP...is he not the same religion as those where gilrs were kidnapped...

Plus girls are kidnapped in predominantly Chirstian southern Nigeria. Should you complain if a Muslim throws this argument back at you?

You see why I spoke the way I speak?

Again!! How did you arrive at Obi/Datti as my voting choice man?!! You're really a case in jumping guns.
Your argument here is silly as it is very inept. Can you mention anywhere in Southern Nigeria where girls have been kidnapped on account of their faith? I thought you're smarter than this?!!

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CAN is free to choose who they want to choose...but for consistency sake, they should not support any party that does not run a christian-chrisitian ticket...otherwise it would be hypocritical.
In one breath you say CAN is free to choose and in the next breath you give conditions for them to choose. Yet you are preaching against hypocrisy grin grin What exactly are you on about?


Ah, the guy thinks I am a demon. Rwoar!
Well, only a demon accuses people unjustly just like Satan did to Job. CAN is preaching against same faith ticket and you condemn them for not preaching against mixed faith ticket. Can you tell me what exactly you want CAN to support? Is Christian-Christian not same faith? It's obvious you guys just want to attack CAN because you can not because you have any cogent point.



Well, I want Nigerians to vote for a party that isn't APC, PDP, LP, NNPP or SDP. If we can vote in a completely new set of people...like in ADC or PRP....then we can see if they do better than the old.

ADC grin grin Do you know the presidential candidate of ADC? Dumebi Kachikwu. Younger brother of Ibe Kachikwu former minister of state for petroleum who refused to remove fuel subsidy and get our refineries working. He was once accused of tax fraud in the US and was once arrested by EFCC for a bribery saga in Delta state.
So you see, you're just going about forming enlightened and sanctimonious but actually not better than the average gbenga on the street. You denigrated LP, SDP and highlighted ADC whose present candidate has links to APC grin grin So much for your big big grammar.

The thing is, you Christians are too afraid. You do not know the power you hold from serving your God.

Vote for Obi. But don't pretend that voting for Obi means you are voting against Islam, when a Muslim is his VP. Or that it makes thee a better christian than those of us who want nothing to do with either Obi or Tinubu or Atiku.
No sir. We are not afraid. We are only watchful and vigilant because it is people who say all's well when a fire is burning on their roof that end up consumed by it!
I might vote Obi and I might not. But don't demonize those who vote Obi as hating Islam or whatever wacked theory you have up your jaundiced brain. Since you prefer Dumebi Kachikwu grin grin, I wish you best of luck but leave CAN alone to fight for we Christians as we expect them to and as the SCIA also does for Muslims
Politics / Re: Bishop David Abioye Condemns Tinubu's Muslim-Muslim Ticket by Ojuntana: 2:48pm On Jul 22, 2022
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All this grammar to explain away voting for a Muslim vice President under one party and not a Muslim vice President under another party..

As for me, I choose competency, and not bigotry.

If you want to think Muslims are evil , don't vote for them

Now don't put words in my mouth

When did I say muslims are evil

If you want to vote for Tinubu vote for him. But don't demonize others who don't and don't accuse those who refuse to of bigotry.
The problem is not the religion of the VP, rather, it is the coloration the ticket gets for being same faith in a country where girls were kidnapped and one was not released for refusing to renounce Christianity. If you're comfortable with the arrangement, then go ahead with it.
But don't demonize CAN for standing up to what is wrong. What exactly is your point? That CAN should only support a Christian-Christian ticket? So you can fully come out to accuse them of being bigots and supremacists?

Only in your devilish mind can condemning same faith ticket in a multi-religious country be wrong if mixed faith ticket is not condemned as well. Only in your devilish mind.

You know what agenda you're pushing and it will not work!!

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