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Politics / Re: CAN Berates Alleged Christian Group, Calls APC "Desperate" by Ojuntana: 6:19am On Jul 28, 2022
shagasha:
But sincerely CAN is fussing much over this issue. They should let the man be not releasing statement upon statements.
The Church is not political because we have been instructed to obey our leaders.
The Church members should go get their PVCs and vote whomsoever they support.
I'm kinda not very cool with releasing statement upon statements about one's choice of vice as of they are scared that he will surely win


TALK LESS BUT ACT MORE


GO GET YOUR PVC!!!




And you did not read that he was reacting to a statement from a faceless group called "Progressive Christians of North West"
Are you aware of the many faceless groups that have surfaced claiming to represent Christians since this matter began?
CAN have only released one or two statements on the matter, but APC hatchet men went and forged a statement on behalf of CAN chairman borno, claimed bishops came for the unveiling of the VP candidate and sundry other underhand tactics to undermine CAN and Christians
Politics / Re: CAN Berates Alleged Christian Group, Calls APC "Desperate" by Ojuntana: 6:14am On Jul 28, 2022
orohbiro:
For those matured people that don't watch BBN

Please take care of the country for us , fight for Nigeria, be patrotic citizens

We will be back after three months to join you in the fight
Dis one wey be like devil wey never mature
Politics / Re: CAN Berates Alleged Christian Group, Calls APC "Desperate" by Ojuntana: 6:11am On Jul 28, 2022
femicyrus:
CAN had a VP in this failed government but never called him out when Christians are been killed/marginalised.
What is the guarantee that fielding another mix religion leaders in government will change anything?

If religion of a candidate is so important in solving our problems, why can't CAN form a political party that will make their member leaders in the country.
We have christian candidates in other parties too, why won't CAN queue behind such candidate in peace.
If I being a Christian can see beyond religion, how much more CAN.

I've not read in the Bible where Christ was so vocal about who should be fielded as political leaders
It is because you only read the Bible but you did not understand it. The Pharisees and scribe whom Jesus preached against in his sermon on the mount were the political leaders of the Jews at that time.
It bears saying that if Nigeria has been turned into a Christian killing field while there's a Christian VP, how much more when there's none at all?
Lastly, don't bury your head in the sand. If the religion of a candidate was not important, the APC northern governors wouldn't have asked Tinubu to pick a nothern Muslim. The whole idea of emilokan is representation and inclusion. Such a candidate shouldn't play divisive or exclusivity politics

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Politics / Re: CAN Berates Alleged Christian Group, Calls APC "Desperate" by Ojuntana: 6:00am On Jul 28, 2022
I really hope APC get burned in the religious crisis they're stoking.
It's now obvious that those who birthed the APC are jihadists in mind and character

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Politics / Re: Mass Exodus Hits Kebbi APC, As 2 Ex-Dep. Govs, Ex-SSG, 2 Ex-SAs Defect To PDP by Ojuntana: 9:57pm On Jul 27, 2022
garfield1:


If he wins 4 north west states,3 north east states and 3 north central states,he has won the north.he may win one of kebbi/sokoto or both and will come second in kano which is like a win for him
Let us even assume he wins 10 states and loses 9 in the North. We all know the best he can get in the south is six states. So with the remaining 20 States going to his opponent, how does he win?
Politics / Re: 2023 Presidential Election Will Make Or Mar Nigeria – CAN, Dogara, Abbo, Others by Ojuntana: 7:04pm On Jul 27, 2022
fergie001:
Why are you laughing?
cheesy

You do realize all these Northern Christians are still in APC and fighting from within

PDP 2015

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Politics / Re: 2023: Muslim/muslim Ticket Is Ungodly ― Former Speaker Dogara by Ojuntana: 7:02pm On Jul 27, 2022
Healthquest:
Dogara and that mustapaha was using CAN to amplify there position because Tinubu earlier call on him, he is hoping to get the seat, but the tin is Minority/Minority cannot win presidency and religion is not expected to jeopardize our chances in life.
The president is shared btw president North n south and majority in south r xtian and majority in north are muslim. If u pick Muslim from south den u need Muslim from north especially wen a Muslim contender is on d ticket

How then does it make sense that a minority is representing the majority in the South but same is not good for the North?
Politics / Re: 2023: Muslim/muslim Ticket Is Ungodly ― Former Speaker Dogara by Ojuntana: 6:35pm On Jul 27, 2022
Some northerners in APC are waiting to kill it from the inside just as they did PDP in 2015
Politics / Re: Naira Crashes To N710 Per Dollar by Ojuntana: 6:32pm On Jul 27, 2022
thebosstrevor1:
The official rate is still 430 to 440

The people i pity the most is those people sourcing dollar from the black market

Another set is those people selling dollar for naira.

Like 100 dollars in naira is becoming wortless due to inflation

100 dollars = 68k

68k is like 40k now


Won't you say Sai Baba
Politics / Re: 2023 Presidential Election Will Make Or Mar Nigeria – CAN, Dogara, Abbo, Others by Ojuntana: 6:08pm On Jul 27, 2022
FTC grin grin

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Politics / Re: Mass Exodus Hits Kebbi APC, As 2 Ex-Dep. Govs, Ex-SSG, 2 Ex-SAs Defect To PDP by Ojuntana: 5:56pm On Jul 27, 2022
garfield1:


Go through my threads on 2023.pdp to win sokoto,kebbi narrowly,nnpp to win kano.apc to win the rest.but dont be surprised if apc clears all

That's 3 out of the 7 NW states gone. With 3 out of the 6 NE states gone as well and at least 2 out of the 6 NC states gone, forgetting totally about SS/SE, how exactly is Tinubu going to win with only 17 states up for grabs for him and out of the 17, at least 10 are going to be a tough fight?

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Politics / Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 5:49pm On Jul 27, 2022
compton11:
no be only hiel,put hell join.


Where did Bible called heil her father?
Luke 3


where was Mary mentioned in Luke 3?
She is the wife of Joseph who was supposed father of Jesus. It is obvious that due to the patrilineal lineage adopted by Jews, Joseph is mentioned in her place.


Mary related to Levite or not?
gringrin
She is. But Muhammad does not think so


arindin these people are homogeneous then and they are not so much just like isrealites.

What is hard for u to understand there?
Does that make their ancestors their brothers? Brothers in this case refers to their citizenship not blood relations. For example, if I say all Yorubas are brothers and sisters, do I mean they are related by blood? The answer is No for it is a given that those who are related by blood are not allowed to marry one another and we know Yorubas marry themselves except you mean incest is acceptable in Yorubaland



your lying ass keep amusing me and how is that indicated that all lines of David are his sons?

David sons from his wives and concubines were already being mentioned which included Solomon, before they began to mentioned Solomon owns son.

The verse u posted Never answer my question.
Oh so you recognize those as Solomon's sons. Why then do you argue that David's descendants can't be called his sons. Here's another example: Numbers 1:20
And the children of Reuben, Israel's eldest son, by their generations, after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, by their polls, every male from twenty years old and upward, all that were able to go forth to war;
21 Those that were numbered of them, even of the tribe of Reuben, were forty and six thousand and five hundred.
You can see the children of Reuben numbered as 460500. I guess the number of Reuben's direct children is 460,500 according to you grin grin

but Bible agree he related to Aaron through Elizabeth.

Whether through mother or father gringrin
So you agree with the Bible and disagree with Muhammad. No problem. grin grin

boy stop playing with me


Jesus was about thirty years old when he began his public ministry. Jesus was known as the son of Joseph. Joseph was the son of Heli.

Luke 3:23

You can clearly see the distinction that he was known as. This shows that Luke recognized that Jesus was not Joseph's so and thus established his genealogy through his mother

another dodging grincheesy

So Uncle can mean brother now gringrin


In Yoruba, there is nothing like uncle gringrin,so u mean we call our uncle ọmọ iya mi or egbon mi? gringrin
Tell me what Yorubas call uncle. Cause I know there is no word like Uncle in Yoruba. Besides, Lot and Abraham were directly related to one another. Abraham was not a great ancestor to Lot.


I'm some circumstances gringrin can u please give me where it happens like this whether in OT or new testament? gringrin

Numbers 36
6 This is the thing which the LORD doth command concerning the daughters of Zelophehad, saying, Let them marry to whom they think best; only to the family of the tribe of their father shall they marry.
7 So shall not the inheritance of the children of Israel remove from tribe to tribe: for every one of the children of Israel shall keep himself to the inheritance of the tribe of his fathers.
8 And every daughter, that possesseth an inheritance in any tribe of the children of Israel, shall be wife unto one of the family of the tribe of her father, that the children of Israel may enjoy every man the inheritance of his fathers.
9 Neither shall the inheritance remove from one tribe to another tribe; but every one of the tribes of the children of Israel shall keep himself to his own inheritance.
You can see here that the daughters of Zelophehad were only allowed to marry from their tribe so that their inheritance will not be lost to their husbands' tribe since the inheritance will automatically pass to their husbands once they marry.

and how come she related to Elizabeth a Levite? gringrin

Is Elizabeth Aaron's sister? Elizabeth is Aaron's great descendant so it is very possible that through the mother side she and Mary her related. It is obvious even from your Muhammad's response that Mary was not a Levite. It is just like saying a Yoruba man, fathered by a Yoruba but whose mother has Igbo mother and Yoruba father is Igbo. Does that make sense. People are known by the tribe of their father most especially in Jewish culture

where did he say that?

"When I came to Najran, they (the Christians of Najran) asked me: You read "Sister of Harun", (i.e. Mary), in the Qur'an, whereas Moses was born well before Jesus. When I came back to Allah's Messenger I asked him about that, and he said: "The (people of the old age) used to give names (to their persons) after the names of Apostle and pious persons who had gone before them."" [Sahih Muslim, translated by Abdul Siddiqi].


We are talking about Aaron stuff here not Mary gringrin

What brought about Aaron? Is it not your claim that Mary is related to Aaron and thus a Levite? Something your prophet does not agree with.

mumu must Qur'an mentioned it gringrin

Are u saying Abraham don't give birth to Isaac and Ismael again?

Nitwit. If Quran does not mention it then that means Quran does not have authority over that fact.


dumb ass nigga
I'm talking about Joseph the carpenter and Joseph of Egypt,both their fathers name are Jacob.

And as the halfwit that you are, you do not realize that Jacob father of Joseph in OT has Isaac as his father while Jacob father of Joseph in NT has Matthatus as his father. you can't just erase that fact because you're uncomfortable with it grin grin

mumu don't change the topic.

Mary related to Levite from mother or father side or not?
She is related according to the Bible though Muhammad does not agree. Who do you go with? Bible or Muhammad? grin grin cheesy
Politics / Re: Babachir Lawal Says Ganduje Foundation Converts Christians To Islam. He Reacts by Ojuntana: 4:38pm On Jul 27, 2022
compton11:
the word allow is what I asked not commanded,don't twist the word.the allow is In the Quran concerning concubines/sex slavery.

If it is not allowed, Yahweh would condemn it,so if the slave girl u are fvcking is not bethroned to another man,then no punishment,so tell me he doesn't permit that.



If a man sells his daughter as a slave, she is not to go free as male servants do.If she does not please the master who has

selected her for himsel[/b]f,he must let her be redeemed. He has no right to sell her to foreigners, because he has broken faith with her


Exodus 21:7-8

yeah Islam allow it just like Bible, instead of taking using them as prostitute to multiple men and Islam also allowed marry them.

Abraham, Solomon, David and so on had sex slave and Yahweh never condemn it.


I don't know where u see [b]sleep with
there cos Allah was mentioning the people that cannot be Marry to.

u see Allah was mentioning those who cannot be Marry to except a slave,he now said all those beyond the people he mentioned (except-excluding slave women) are lawful to us for marriage.


Because slave can also be married to in Islam.


this is lie,they don't need to have God established religion, plus all prophets worship one God and they commanded people of not worshipping idols.

Plus during the prophehood of Abraham and Moses, Bible said they worship God,that is religion.


yeah cos during his time, idolatary wasn't rampant in isreal plus the like of Moses, Elijah, Samuel and so on have eradicated idolatary in the Land of isreal.


Or do u read any evidence of rampant idolatary during the time of Jesus in isreal?




one of it was during the time a blind poor man called Abdullah ibn maktum came to accept Islam from him when the prophet was preaching to the Mecca Chieftains,Abdullah ibn Umm Maktum came along and asked Muhammad about something.the prophet did not want to turn his attention away from the chieftains and frowned at ibn Umm Maktum. Allah admonished prophet Muhammad for this action


gringrin

The reason why he used to visit the mount hira. Mostly, he was thinking and meditating on the Greatness of God, and seeking to escape the social ills that dominated Meccan society at the time, including abuse and neglect of women, idolatry, an unfair balance of wealth, and abuse of those living in poverty




Christians used to visit mountain,so if I visit the same mountain,does that mean I'm worshipping in Christiandom way?

Taqiyya Master. Why are you quoting me and putting my moniker on things I never said. Is your brain doing overheating?

You that lied against your Master Muhammad
Crime / Re: Onuorah Caritas Onyinye 'Smart Beyoncé' Arrested With Cocaine At Airport by Ojuntana: 4:19pm On Jul 27, 2022
She's pretty
Politics / Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 4:12pm On Jul 27, 2022
compton11:
now that u agreed.

How is Muhammed lying?

Muhammad said she was named after Aaron because aaron was pious not that they are related. That's the excuse he gave when he was confronted with the obvious mistake.
It means he's lying since the explanation is that she is Aaron's sister by relationship
Islam for Muslims / Re: Q&A: The Ruling On Eating With Spoons by Ojuntana: 4:10pm On Jul 27, 2022
compton11:
I'm quoting verses that are irrelevant when see you see damn well it related to what the prophet said? gringrin


when did he said he is liable to go to hell again?

How does it relate to what he said? Was he talking about a dead person's situation after death? Because the conversation between him and Um was about Uthman who had died and whom Um said God had honored in death

Liable to hell means in danger of going to hell not going to hell. So I don't know how that means Jesus is in hell when the Bible clearly says he resurrected and then ascended. Even your Quran agrees with his ascension. If you doubt his ascension, then that means the Quran was lying.

Here, two cases of Muhammad lying have been established according to you
Politics / Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 4:06pm On Jul 27, 2022
compton11:
na u I dey ask.

Whether through father or mother,are they related?
Yes they are related. Muhammad was lying
Politics / Re: Mass Exodus Hits Kebbi APC, As 2 Ex-Dep. Govs, Ex-SSG, 2 Ex-SAs Defect To PDP by Ojuntana: 4:05pm On Jul 27, 2022
garfield1:


We already ceded kebbi to atiku narrowly

grin grin

You don dey talk truth small small

Have you ceded Kano and Jigawa to NNPP yet?

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Career / Re: Insecurty: Call To Bar Moved From Law School by Ojuntana: 3:09pm On Jul 27, 2022
omenka:
Your parents are exactly who you say I am. smiley

This comment shows that you lack proper upbringing. You're most certainly a product of a dysfunctional or non-existent home
Politics / Re: Mass Exodus Hits Kebbi APC, As 2 Ex-Dep. Govs, Ex-SSG, 2 Ex-SAs Defect To PDP by Ojuntana: 3:05pm On Jul 27, 2022
garfield1. It seems APC need to forget NW totally
Career / Re: Insecurty: Call To Bar Moved From Law School by Ojuntana: 11:52am On Jul 27, 2022
omenka:
Do we really have a president in this country at all? This is horrible.
See question. Where you not chief among the zombies who Sai Chanji in 2015 and took it to next lebu in 2019?
Politics / Re: ECA Further Shrinks From $35.7 Million To $376,000 by Ojuntana: 11:30am On Jul 27, 2022
Lol..
At a time oil is selling far above budget benchmark?
How do you reconcile that?

Meanwhile amaechi and Oshiomole are silent
Politics / Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 8:36am On Jul 27, 2022
compton11:
they related or not?
According to Muhammad they are not related. According to you they are related.
Which do you go with?
Islam for Muslims / Re: Q&A: The Ruling On Eating With Spoons by Ojuntana: 8:34am On Jul 27, 2022
compton11:
mumu how is this has to do with death only or falling sick alone?

They are many things that will happen to u apart from death.

He doesn't see future, expect what he is shown.


Say (O Muhammed), "I am not different from other messengers. I have no idea what will happen to me or to you. I only follow what is revealed to me. I am no more than a profound warner."

Quran 46:9




Say, “I have no power to benefit or protect myself, except by the Will of Allah. If I had known the unknown, I would have benefited myself enormously, and no harm would have ever touched me. I am only a warner and deliverer of good news for those who believe.”

Qur'an 7:188






What vision is that?

tell me.
You're just quoting verses that are irrelevant. The hadith was a conversation based on someone who died. Go back and read it. It is obvious you have very poor education. That is why simple things are so difficult for you to comprehend. It is same reason you have been quoting a parable as evidence Jesus endorsed violence. Go back and read the concluding part of that hadith. If you don't understand it, go and ask your Alfas to explain it to you. All these verses you're quoting have no relationship with that hadith. You're just wasting your time and exposing your ignorance.
It's part of that ignorance that made you contradict Mohammad himself grin

but he said if u call person a foolish,u will be liable to hell gringrin

Then what happened to those verses?



u sure? gringrin

Just like Jesus did not know when he is coming back gringrin
He said liable to hell. Go and check the meaning of liable before you start jumping up and down. What liable means is what confusing you as usual
Politics / Re: We Will Forestall Any Ugly Incidences Around The FCT - Police PRO by Ojuntana: 10:42pm On Jul 26, 2022
We understand. You will forestall any ugly occurrences like hold up on the way of the bandits.
Una well done
Health / Re: "Dear Death, I Am Ready" - Young Nigerian Woman Leaves Painful Note On Facebook by Ojuntana: 10:23pm On Jul 26, 2022
lasisi69:
undecided
No be cassava dey for C so?
Na Tinubu get dat one

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Politics / Re: My Father Was A Muslim. He Died And My Mother(alhaja) Changed And Made Us Xtians by Ojuntana: 5:57pm On Jul 26, 2022
compton11:
u don tired of long ass comments?

where did the Hadith indicated she was named after someday?
gringrin

The Hadith indicated she was named sister of Aaron because of the righteous people or prophet that has passed before them. gringrin


Aaron was children of Israel same as Mary.

They're both descendant of Jacob.


They are both descendant of Abraham.

They were both descendant of 12 Tribe if Jacob gringrin


Now the last but not the least Bible let us know Mary is cousin of Elizabeth whether through mother or father,so it is not bad if they called her arabinrin Aaron cos Aaron related to her and Aaron was righteous man gringrin.

U are brother or sister of who or what u related to whether in term of


Race
Ethnic
Religion
Sex
Nationality.



So you're saying Aaron and Mary are related while Muhammad said they are not related. So who do we believe now grin grin
Islam for Muslims / Re: Q&A: The Ruling On Eating With Spoons by Ojuntana: 5:54pm On Jul 26, 2022
compton11:
I thought u have Brain.


u so dumb boy gringrin


I (addressing the dead body) said, "May Allah's Mercy be on you, O Aba As-Sa'ib! I testify that Allah has honored you." The Prophet (ﷺ) said, 'How do you know that?


The prophet asked her how did he know that cos she can't know whether Allah has truly honored him,cos she didn't know if the dead is righteous person or not.

Now he know continue




I replied, 'I do not know, by Allah.' He said, 'As for him, death has come to him and I wish him all good from Allah. By Allah, though I am Allah's Messenger (ﷺ), I neither know what will happen to me, nor to you



Your dumbass supposed to understand the statement,it means since death has come for the man,he (prophet) doesn't know what we come for him or her because of the man sicked before dying, that is the reason why the prophet said as for the man, death has come for him but the prophet didn't know whether it is death or sickness that will come for him.



Um Al-`Ala said, "By Allah, I will never attest the righteousness of anybody after that

Now this it the answer to the first bolded,the woman now said she will never attest to the righteousness of anybody again if they died.
See very silly analysis. It is people like you that later become terrorists. The prophet does not know whether he will die or fall sick? Does it mean the prophet was thinking he will live forever? Answer now?

So how do you explain the part of the vision as it concerns the conversation? How does that even make any sense to you? It is obvious you are twisting the words of the prophet. It is an offence to twist the words of the prophet to your own meaning. It is blasphemy and it is obvious you're a fake Muslim.






But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.
Matthew 5:22


And now Jesus said



But the Lord said to him, “Now you Pharisees clean the outside of the cup and of the platter; but inside of you, you are full of robbery and wickedness. You foolish ones, did not He who made the outside make the inside also?


Luke 11:39-40



And



And He said to them, “O foolish men and slow of heart to believe in all that the prophets have spoken!

Luke 24:25
[/quote] He is in heaven at the right hand of God while Muhammad did not know where He is going.
Politics / Re: Blasphemy: Senate Receives Petition For The Investigation & Arrest Of Pastor Ojo by Ojuntana: 3:02pm On Jul 26, 2022
Umsworld:


Try dey talk according to topic atimes
You are always derailing

Condem the dastardly act same way you would have it was against ur Jesus

Ur Jesus? I thought Jesus is a prophet in Islam
Politics / Re: Blasphemy: Senate Receives Petition For The Investigation & Arrest Of Pastor Ojo by Ojuntana: 3:01pm On Jul 26, 2022
Hassanmaye:

We will make sure he die

Good luck

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Politics / Re: Peter Obi Is Live On Channels TV - Politics Today by Ojuntana: 2:33pm On Jul 26, 2022
Seun:
I meant federal government. Corrected a while ago.

You're still in error. A state is a microcosm of the federal govt. A governor who has attended Council of State, NEC and other sundry meetings and was even close to a sitting president cannot be said to be ignorant of how the FG works
Politics / Re: Blasphemy: Senate Receives Petition For The Investigation & Arrest Of Pastor Ojo by Ojuntana: 2:32pm On Jul 26, 2022
madridguy:
A welcome development.
Yes. The senate should sentence him to death by stoning

This is the gameplan with your Muslim Muslim ticket

Islamic laws will become a national law by which citizens are tried

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