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LilMissFavvy:
Let me give a little contribution to readers who frequent this section. I think it's best we allow people who open threads to write the threads as the spirit leads them. Truth is, IF ALL OF US SHOULD MENTION AREAS THE OP SHOULD FOCUS ON/AREAS HE SHOULD IGNORE, THEN EACH OF US WILL MENTION DIFFERENT THINGS TILL THE OP WILL BE LEFT WITH NOTHING TO WRITE.

I would be ungrateful if I don't appreciate the thread, though I can recal how the OP was rude to me in his reply to a comment which I made. People here took note, a particular man who left this thread even mentioned it, tho he didn't mention my name, I knew it was me. Anyone who has eyes should go read the few comments I made here, and show me where I erred, yet did i reply the op? I ignored. I swallowed up the many questions I had to ask him.

Many expositions were made on this thread, what we should do is to pick the ones that concern us, and ignore the ones that do not. It is very necessary for Christians to have a good knowledge of how the devil operates. Eg. I have some colleagues who live large/flashy lifestyles. After reading this thread and saw the ''colours of beret, colours of socks, symbols'', etc which the OP mentioned, it then occurred to me that these colleagues could be cultists. This expositions makes me forewarned/forearmed, coupled with knowledge of the word of God. The OP also mentioned praying for a man and calling on hailstones..........I applied the hailstones as prayer weapon and it is helpful, I didn't even know about hailstones as a weapon one can use during prayers.

I don't know how many of us attend churches which are deliverance ministries, my brothers and sisters, some of you would weep if you see the things Christians are passing through. Are we saying these Christians don't know the word? Isn't it funny how the agents of darkness know the in/outs of most Christians, and this same agents are armed with demonic powers, yet they also use the Bible and enjoy some benefits which Christians gain. ''that ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven, for he maketh the sun to rise on the evil and good, and the just/unjust'', wow....our God loves the just/unjust, I typed the above scripture because any least mistake or ignorance can make a Christian become a puppet for the devil to toy with. I was born into an Orthodox Christian background, I can remember that after I began following friends to attend other churches, I got excited getting to witness the displays of gifts of the spirit. On one of such Sundays, I can remember some people lined up for prayers/ deliverance. As I sat waiting for everything to end so that I could go home, I saw a young lady with a terrible hunchback, she also had HIV, she got it through eating in the dream. As I saw her tears came to my eyes., Isn't the devil wicked? She's got hunchback and HIV is added to it. If only this lady was equipped with knowledge about the dangers of eating in the dream. Can eating in the dream be found in the Bible?

The op claimed to have read the Bible over 120times, if he aldo reads other strange books, then that's his business, since he can handle it. An ordinary Christian who dares to read all sorts of strange books is a joke, why trespass to read book of Enoch, when one isn't done digesting the Bible properly, it's sheer foolery, infact it is only pastors who should read such books.

I believe the thread was aimed at exposing the works of darkness, and may not have not have focused more on preaching, maybe if the op stayed longer, he would have began preaching. My people if you check some threads on this section, it lacks readership because it is a copy/paste of the Bible. Who doesn't own a Bible or who doesn't have a church? In the process of winning more souls ''let us not forget that the previous souls that were won ages ago could be facing attacks or loosing their faith'', a thread like this could be of help. As new OPs are beginning to spring up let's ''sieve'' their narrations and pick only the details we need.

Anas09, I've read your contributions, and I have learnt a lot, indeed am convinced the oil of God is on you, but I think you should not bother so much, the best way to handle a thread like this is how I have explained, it's left for God to judge if OP is right or wrong. As for the ''you don't know warris going on'' comments which I have read repeatedly, hope it's not what am thinking o, hope there is nothing fishy about the OP or this thread......God will help us all.

God bless you for this apt contribution.

The part of your quote I bolded... I have warned that those who are still struggling with arithmetics shouldn't even bother with furthermaths yet. It is the Spirit of God that gives understanding. Then limiting those other books to only pastors in my opinion isn't right tho. The Spirit of God would guide everyone (not only Pastors) into all Truth as written by Apostle John in his letters. The goal is for everyone to grow and not remain spiritual babies forever.

God bless...

Anas09:
E don dey enter you and who you are inside is beginning to get revealed. How did I lie?
I came in and responded to my mentions. Was your reply to that post in my mention for me to know you had replied to it?

Quite a daft assumption from you in the first place to falsely accuse me then. Now I have clearly shown you how I intervened in the misunderstanding between the OP and maraiangeles, so swallow your words back from where you spat them out.

Anas09:
You thought I went to read all the replies before answering my mentions?

Your ignorance is none of my business. Next time look at the complete facts on ground before jumping into false conclusions on my matter.

Anas09:
You are a stupid boy behind a stolen phone who feels he can insults his parents.

At this point, I can only throwback my head in laughter at this silly comment of yours.
I joined this platform as a teenager way back in 2008, and registered with this moniker in 2010 (check pix below and my profile to confirm)...add 9 years to that, and figure out I'm a working class man living my dreams outta Nigeria...but I'm not surprised at this outburst of yours, you've had a tough time connecting the dots all this while.

Anas09:
Do I need to say more when all your satanic agendas are everywhere for all to see?

Why have you tried to undermine the Word of God by all means? If you are here to further the Kingdom of God by revealing satan, then do it side by side, not 100% satan, demons and what they do.
Where did you see anyone in the Bible do that?

First off, you were blind to the testimonies on this thread. Now you are blind to all the scriptures the OP, myself and every other contributor on this thread has put up. Seek Jesus to help with your sense of sight, and also your understanding.

Anas09:
Do you think calling me a liar will make me one? Nonsense.

Yes you are. Your double standards is too glaring for everyone to see here madam.

Anas09:
I don't know from where he is preaching from. He said he wasn't tapping from the internet, and the Bible didn't give the information he posts here. So, maybe from Vedas.

If he is not a demonologist, where then did he get all the info on demons? All of the demons with their names and hierarchy and mode of Operations.

Who is he following after? Jesus, Paul or Peter? Who?

I am not double standard becos I have never supported demonology from the start then divert.

From the outset of this thread, I told the Op to talk more abt Jesus and less abt satan, he said I talk too much. All that to shut me off.

Go and read Kenneth Hagin's books on the Triumphant Church for a start, some of the answers to your questions are in there. Jesus revealed a lot about demons to him. Cogent facts backed up with the scriptures.

Unless you are implying Hagin who had a similar revelation from Jesus is a charlatan and a demonologist as well.

Anas09:
If only he was revealing these things and teaching the Bible along side. E for make sense.

Truly, you have selective amnesia. So all the while OP and everyone else have been talking...you didn't see any scriptural reference? Seriously?

Anas09:
Who satanism epp?

You perhaps...

Anas09:
The Lord Jesus was blind and ignorant nau for almost completely keeping satan off His teaching ministry.
You sabi pass God. Clap for ya sef.

You mean the same Jesus that taught His disciples certain things on the operations of Demons and how to bind and cast them out?
The same Jesus who appeared to your beloved Kenneth Hagin and taught him extensively on the operations of demons? You are a pitiful joke.

Anas09:
Pls lead me there, I have been a bit busy so didn't read where it was explained.

Take me to the post.

Check page 72 of this thread, it's too obvious for anyone with functioning eyes to miss it. Gosh!

And this as well;

And even still more;

Anas09:
This is the best you can do? Resorting to insult? U be childs.

I am calling you out for what you are. A liar and someone with double standards.

Anas09:
After sounding like a broken record, all you needed to do was post few of those Testimonies for us to see that knowing satan can deliver an oppressed.

Post how many people have repented of their sins genuinely and embraced Christ since your satanic revelations here.

If only he was revealing these things and teaching the Bible along side. E for make sense.

Who satanism epp?

You need mental evaluation and help to really UNDERSTAND what is going on here. Whoever said the OP is into satanism? Whoever said satan can deliver anyone? well except you.

Since you are so blind to the testimonies of victories on this thread, I'll post the screenshots here for you to see again. Well, that is even if you can truly see.

See the hypocrisy and double standards of Anas09 in full glare.

Kindly check her comment encouraging the OP to expose the works of satan in page 26 of this thread. Same lady is turning around bitterly accusing the OP of satanism and encouraging the works of Satan.

CaveAdullam, Jesusjnr...are you seeing the double standards and hypocrisy I'm talking of?

My alternate moniker, since I've unfortunately been banned by the antispam bot for posting links to various testimonies on this thread Anas09 was conveniently blind to.

I'll resort to screenshots.

OLAADEGBU:
It is rather Buddhism, a belief system that has evolved into 3 main schools such as Theravada, Mahayana and Vajrayana.

Hi bro, good morning.

Have you taken out time to read this book by Ravi Zacharias? The Lotus and the Cross.

It's a comparison between Buddhism and the Gospel...

Cheers...

realmindz:
So which part of the Bible have you been able to filter out as correct, perhaps the ones that appeal to you?

You want us to discuss the 66 books of the Bible on this thread and start filtering out errors verse by verse? Not even an entire thread will do justice to that.


Bottom line is I've made my position on the Bible clear.

realmindz:
So this current bible is incorrect.

Then why do u still quote from it if you do

And I said the entire Bible is incorrect?


When you mix truth with errors and perhaps lies, does the errors/lies invalidate the truth?

What is important here is doing a thorough research and also rely on intuition and spirituality to filter out the lies/errors from the Truth...

Justice310:
The story of Jesus is nothing but a fiction story. We must wonder why there is no evidence of a more official kind. After all, the Romans kept detailed records. Surely, a Jewish man crucified for claiming to be the Jewish king would have
occasioned comment, not to mention at least one report by Pilate, the governor of Judea and Samaria. Yet, in all of the thousands of letters and reports from Roman late antiquity, we have not found one reference to the trial and execution of Jesus.
The stories of Jesus are constructs inspired by pagan mythologies. After asserting that the evidence for the existence of Jesus is weak, mythicists claim that the New Testament Gospels
present portraits of Jesus that were inspired by myths and stories of Egyptian, Greek, and Roman gods. The miracles attributed to Jesus and, above all, the accounts of His death
and resurrection are said to have been created from similar stories about the pagan gods. The mythological stories about Attis and Osiris are of special interest and are the most frequently appealed to. Other scholars who believe that Jesus
existed also argue that the Gospel accounts are largely mythological, inspired by the myths and epic poetry of Homer or other Greco-Roman literature.

https://thoughtcatalog.com/jim-goad/2014/05/30-pairs-of-bible-verses-that-contradict-one-another/

So how does it compare to the fact that even the Jews who rejected Jesus believed he existed?


Or are you implying the Jews do not know their history?


By the way, I wonder why Jesus' existence is a subject of debate. Why not Moses or Abraham or even Bhudda or Mohammed or Enoch?

Justice310:
Let's talk abt Jesus. https://think-aboutit.com/the-bible-is-a-plagiarised-work-of-fiction-jesus-didnt-exist/

What's your take? Real or fictional?

realmindz:
It was the bible that spoke of the evil personality of mass murder and merciless killing from God, are u saying the bible is just a mere human conception of God?

The Bible did not arrive by fax from Heaven or wherever. It was written by mere mortals with their understanding of truth at the time. Unfortunately, over the centuries it has been translated into various languages with errors and perhaps lies mixed with truth...watering down on its original contents...

The truth in it's pure and raw form is unwritten. It is best discovered by intuition.

gensteejay:
To argue with religious folks, one must do away with logic, common sense, and facts. That's the only way one can reach an agreement with them, an agreement built on lies and deception.

Such an argument is mostly a waste of time. Religionists, especially Christians, have mastered the ignoble acts of twisting facts to suit their parochial agenda and self-deception.

They are the kind of people that make ludicrous and mischievous statements, like "Christianity is a way of life, not a religion."

I am not holding brief for any religion. Perhaps you must have mistaken me for a religious person. I also have my reservations about religion.

The master of the universe has no religion, neither is the Truth monopolized by any religion. What is more important is spirituality and truth.

Once again, don't mistake me for a religious person

Justice310:
Good answer. Now, what will you call jehovah by his direct killing of many people for reasons that defy any rational explanation such as killing children who make fun of bald
people, and the killing of a man who tried to keep the ark of God from falling during transport. There are also countless examples of mass murders commanded by God, including the murder of women, infants, and children. Pls be honest.

I get where you are going. This is going to be an interesting discussion.

If you're expecting us to use the old testament as a basis for our discussion, then there are certain things we need to consider.

The ancient Jews attributed everything Good and Evil as an act of "Jehovah" then at some point in time, their thinking somewhat changed from that to Good comes from God and Evil things come from Satan...

Then fast forward to the new testament, Heavenly Father ( notice that Jesus never referred to God by any name but this - I stand to be corrected) now appears to be a loving and compassionate personality compared to the seemingly brute and no nonsense strict personality in the old testament.


Now you might be wondering why I've said all these so far...

The nature/personality of God does not change, rather it is humanity's perception and understanding of Him that changes over time.

Let's use a basic example here. The way you see your Father as a child would most likely differ from the way you see him as an adult. He might appear harsh, strict or wicked in raising you up, but that's your understanding of him at that time given your limited understanding of his actions.

But as you grow into a young adult, the way you both relate changes as you get to understand him better and vice-versa.

Same applies with the way the Jews have come to understand the nature of God over time.

gensteejay:
Who's Satan?

Satan is a Jewish word which means "the opposer"

However, it is now construed to be a label/personality of evil, darkness, deceit and wickedness...

Justice310:
i believe you bro, i shall hereby join you in this mission to expose satan whom they called jehovah.

Bless you.

Satan is Jehovah? Really? All men to their beliefs... but the TRUTH shall surely prevail

Justice310:
Yes some are gifted to see the future which i am one of them. Few months ago i saw the grave of my stepmother in my dream, and when i woke up, i called her over and told her about it but she rejected it and didnt take me serious. Maybe because i'm not a pastor, or maybe because i've stopped going to church for many many years. But it came to pass, today wil make a month and 4 days since she died. Same i saw about my father, and it come to pass. And many more

But i'm not a pastor, and i dont go church like many christians do and i hardly pray. It's a gift.

I concur. But it does not negate the fact that majority of the "seers" making noise upandan are charlatans...

You know the set of betnaija prophets I'm referring to... unfortunately, those are the people gullible/religious people fall for...

callmeVIBRANT:
Atiku Musa Bala has assured all market men and women that he will win the chairmanship election of the market association despite all the challenges. He disclosed this when speaking to his supporters at the Bendel district of the Area.

You no well oooo

Sorry ooo...


How many politicians died in 2018?

First fruit is as biblical as tithing, circumcision, animal sacrifice, grain offering , slavery, an eye for an eye, inheriting a dead brother's wife and meeting your conjugal obligations to her, wearing tassels at the edge of one's garments...e.t.c.


Now whether these apply to Christians is the issue. Which is a capital NO!

augustine:
In Leviticus.23:9-14. The first fruit offering requires an accompanying burnt offering of a year old lamb, grain offering by fire; and drink offering of wine. Now, can the sacrifices by fire be carried out inside the Church, or should we do selective obedience and leave out the compulsory sacrifice part? My opinion is that; Gentile believers are actually exempted from bearing the yoke of Judaism's customs and requirements, by the first church council in Jerusalem. Acts 15:1-35 [precisely Acts.15:22-29] I believe this includes the first fruit saga.

Gbam! You're spot on!


Very correct.

MrPresident1:
LORD, do not forget your covenant with David

Psalm 132:11-12
11 The Lord hath sworn in truth unto David; he will not turn from it; Of the fruit of thy body will I set upon thy throne.
12 If thy children will keep my covenant and my testimony that I shall teach them, their children shall also sit upon thy throne for evermore.

When the Temple is rebuilt in Jerusalem, then the countdown to the end shall truly begin..

For now, that area is occupied by the dome of the rock mosque. I think it's also called the Al-Aqsa mosque.


For a start, Jerusalem is now recognized as Israel's capital...

Little by little, the pieces are coming together...

folks4luv:
I just wish I could see you so I could scream at you, I really feel like screaming at your. How did God collected tithe from Abraham? Abraham gave Melchizedek a 10th of the spoil and returned the rest to the owners. 1. He did not give according to the law because he was not under the law but was justified by faith 2. He did not give from his own personal wealth. What should that tell you? Paul said we that are gentiles like Abraham are justified by Faith, not by law. Like Abraham was justified by faith, we too are justified likewise if we have faith in Christ.
How did God collected tithe from Jacob? He said he would return to the spot he had the encounter and make an alter If God kept him. So how does a vow he WILLINGLY MADE results to tithe?

Pls study the scripture and quit being arrogant and complacent.

Just wait and watch how he'll twist the scriptures.

He's yet to explain how Abraham's once in a lifetime tithe from war spoils should serve as a basis for Christians to part with 10% of their monthly income.

alBHAGDADI:
Show us where tithe was not used to maintain church.

according to you, the Law is not abolished. What is the basis for holding onto tithing and discarding these other parts of the Law?

Men must not shave the hair off the sides of their head — Lev. 19:27
69. Men must not shave their beards with a razor — Lev. 19:27
73. Not to tear the skin in mourning — Deut. 14:1
74. Not to make a bald spot in mourning — Deut. 14:1
76. To say the Shema twice daily — Deut. 6:7
79. To wear tefillin (phylacteries) on the head — Deut. 6:8
80. To bind tefillin on the arm — Deut. 6:8
81. To put a mezuzah on the door post — Deut. 6:9
82. Each male must write a Torah scroll — Deut. 31:19
108. Not to eat chametz on the afternoon of the 14th day of Nisan — Deut. 16:3
109. To destroy all chametz on 14th day of Nisan — Ex. 12:15
110. Not to eat chametz all seven days of Passover —Ex. 13:3
111. Not to eat mixtures containing chametz all seven days of Passover — Ex. 12:20
112. Not to see chametz in your domain seven days — Ex. 13:7
113. Not to find chametz in your domain seven days — Ex. 12:19
114. To eat matzah on the first night of Passover — Ex. 12:18
115. To relate the Exodus from Egypt on that night — Ex. 13:8
116. To hear the Shofar on the first day of Tishrei (Rosh Hashanah) — Num. 9:1
117. To dwell in a Sukkah for the seven days of Sukkot — Lev. 23:42
128. To perform yibbum (marry the widow of one's childless brother) — Deut. 25:5
129. To perform halizah (free the widow of one's childless brother from yibbum) — Deut. 25:9
232. Not to sell the cherem — Lev. 27:28
233. Not to redeem the cherem — Lev. 27:28
234. Not to plant diverse seeds together — Lev. 19:19
235. Not to plant grains or greens in a vineyard — Deut. 22:9
236. Not to crossbreed animals — Lev. 19:19
237. Not to work different animals together — Deut. 22:10
238. Not to wear shaatnez, a cloth woven of wool and linen — Deut. 22:11
426. To set aside the firstborn animals — Ex. 13:12
427. The Kohanim must not eat unblemished firstborn animals outside Jerusalem — Deut. 12:17
428. Not to redeem the firstborn — Num. 18:17
429. Separate the tithe from animals — Lev. 27:32
430. Not to redeem the tithe — Lev. 27:33
436. A woman who had a running (vaginal) issue must bring an offering (in the Temple) after she goes to the Mikveh — Lev. 15:28-29
437. A woman who gave birth must bring an offering (in the Temple) after she goes to the Mikveh — Lev. 12:6
438. A man who had a running (unnatural urinary) issue must bring an offering (in the Temple) after he goes to the Mikveh — Lev. 15:13-14
439. A metzora (one having a skin disease) must bring an offering (in the Temple) after going to the Mikveh — Lev. 14:10
455. Observe the laws of impurity caused by childbirth — Lev. 12:2




WHAT IS THE BASIS FOR STICKING TO TITHE AND FIRST FRUITS BUT DISCARDING THESE INSTRUCTIONS?

alBHAGDADI:
Show us where tithe was not used to maintain church.

The Bible shows clearly that freewill giving was used to maintain the early church, both in Acts and Corinthians...

Was tithe mentioned there?

Was first fruit also mentioned there?

By the way, you haven't answered my questions on the Laws of Moses...

CodeTemplar:
So you don't know difference between charity and offering and tithes? Bible scholar my foot.

And you that is the Bible scholar, open your Bible and show us where tithe was used to maintain the church.

I've shown you where precisely God levied all Israelite men a fixed amount of money to maintain the Temple... and that wasn't tithe...

Neither was tithe used in financing the early church... and tithe was not money.

CodeTemplar:
Tithe is 10% of earning or increase and as a banker I can't go copy 10% of spreadsheet work I did in the month into a flash drive and drop it in basket on Sunday. use your brain.

Where did God mention tithe as 10% of generic income?


Where did God include money as part of the items to be tithed?