RemiOAjayi: If you don't believe in Bible I can understand your point, but to think the Noah story is myth just because you have not seen the physical evidence is like u are indirectly concurring to dawin evolution theory, as for evidence , the red Sea is available or Not ? Do you see rainbow or not ? Learn to have open mind, no one is island of Knowledge, Bible is a story about the world or human race, the fact that it came from the Jews do not make it stories solely for them.
When you learn that Genesis in its entirety is a book of jewish myths, you will probably have more self respect and respect for your own traditions rather than carry foreign myths to be your actual history.
If I ask you, are you also descended from the Japanese izanami and izanagi(which Japanese myth say are the first man and woman) you will be quick to say no or find a way to turn it into Adam and eve when they are clearly different. If I ask you what is the name of the first woman in your native traditions, you wouldn't know. But you believe Jewish nonsensical myths as your own reality and true origin.
The jews do not own humanity and are in no place to tell humans from whom and from where they originate from. Jews can only speak for themselves, and after a thorough examination of Genesis anyone will know it is not a reflection of human history and all those characters are strictly Jewish business
RemiOAjayi: So can we call Adam a Jew ? Noah belongs to human race Jew did not come into existence until the 4th son of Jacob called Judea. Even Samaritan who were the other tribes about 11 children of Jacob did not claim to be Jew yet they regarded Jacob and Abraham as their Fathers.
So if Abraham and Jacob is not Jew, is it Noah that will be ?
Noah, Abraham, Jacob are all Jewish characters however you see it. First of all, don't assume the story of Noah was ever real because there is no evidence of that and the story itself is too unreal to be real Secondly, Noah exist only in Jewish myth not in all myths of world cultures, making Noah essential Jewish/Middle Eastern at best
I'm sure you will disagree if I say Izanagi and Izanami of Japanese myth belong to human race and not exclusive to the Japanese.
9jakool: Obi means parent. Don't worry, it doesn't sound at all like Igbo version tonally and it stems from a different root altogether. The stem verb "bi" means to born or to give birth. O + bi refers to one's parent.
MetaPhysical: This was established a long time ago. It's one thing to have a divergent view within the culture, it's an instant give away when the divergence is preceded, consistently, with caustic and vulgarity unknown and unfamiliar in the ethos of Yoruba upbringing and grooming.
What you have is an insult not a divergent view, for your posts to actually be called divergent views you need basis of such views to be founded in facts not a total imaginative narrative, it is an insult to imply the African man is incapable of establishing a civilization like the Yoruba without Semitic influence. There is nothing omoluabi about using left hand to describe one's fathers house. I don't do that. If you had the Yoruba upbringing you claim you would have the unshakable Yoruba pride. There is nothing more vulgar and caustic than trying to revolutionize yoruba history to glorify foreign people
lx3as: That's why I stopped commenting here because of insults from uncultured fellas like you, Some of you just want your egocentric opinions to be accepted by everyone when you know nothing.
You have not given any reference on how earliest known humans on earth transformed into Yorubas and how people were blocked from migrating from one continent to another; at least you should have shown us references on how no one migrated to present Yorubaland. We all know that human ancestors started in Africa but not in West Africa and there have been migrations to and fro.
Next time please learn to give your superior points, if you ever have one, without calling other ignorant; this only gives you up as someone from the 'other side', Omoluabi would never have been so abusive.
LMAO you are clown. When you are ready to be serious, come back
Why won't she call you monkey when you carry Jesus to UK, same uk that brought Jesus to Nigeria and now don't follow anymore. Africa has always been their dumping ground
lx3as: Yes, claim if you said so, I'm not going to argue that. However, can you show me references of where it was published that Yorubas are originally native to Africa compared with these groups, Khoisan - Bushmen and Hottentots.
The earliest culture we were linked with was Nok; even the Bantus were originally from Nok.
Of course you can't argue that. So much long talk but no single reference to some well known facts or mention of where you got your knowledge from. That's how you know bullshit, because everything you said is guess work and a product of your wild imagination
Khoisan are not the only group native to Africa. Africa is large enough to have different sub-racial categories. Africa has been occupied by humans longer than any other continent, it is after all in Africa that humanity originates from. The only region/people with questionable origin is North Africa which is a region of diverse people ranging from more Black to more Semitic(Arab), but even those who claim arab still have some black ancestors that mixed with the foreign invaders
Other regions of Africa have ancestors native to the continent
Check out the distribution of the dominant Y-DNA found in Yoruba people en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_E-M2 It is the same dominate DNA all over Africa
Maybe it's because this is a faceless forum that makes you guys so comfortable with displaying your ignorance
lx3as: See, Yorubas do not have just one history or migration but seem to be the same people.
In my own 'Omo Owa' family, ram is very important for male child (particularly first born) and his marriage; this is so the same with Abrahamic period. Now if you can't afford ram, cock is used.
The story of 'akehinde gbegbon' is also so close to Jacob and Esau's story.
The story of 'Moremi and Eti' is simply that of Mary and Jesus. Furthermore, how she saved her people from Ugbo people is linked with salvation stories, Holy Mary or even Arabian Mariam story.
Yorubas name their kids on 7/8th day of their birth.
My findings so far are that:
Yorubas just like others in Africa except the Khoisan - Bushmen and Hottentots are not native to Africa.
Yorubas were among the first group that came to Africa with superior culture and dressing.
There were several migrations and many many experiences. Many actually settled among other tribes in Chad, Bornu, Zauzau, Kebbi, Adamawa, Delta and around River Benue and Niger confluence.
They were mainly Semitic (Omo Noah bi - respect to Shem, Omo ti Uwa bi, Omo Owa - Oduduwa's children). There are now Traditional, Christianity and Islamic influenced stories/conflicts of Yorubas' history. We are just holding on to one that promotes our ego.
Original homes and influences:
Mesopotamia Aramaic Egypt
*Also Semitic Arabian Oman, Christianity influenced Phoenicians (we actually got our current days - Eti, Abameta and Aiku from this group migration, we originally had 4 days of Ogun, Orunmila, etc), Christian Catarge, Egyptian, Spanish and Morocco Jews, etc. also Yemeni.
Cush Monroe Oromo, etc.
However, we are now Yorubas; and there are some of us that do not want us to even trace our history but we're of Ife and Ife alone. They forgot that there are many older places in Yorubaland populated by Landing Atlantis, the first group probably Obatala, Ogun, etc group that shared almost everything with earliest Greeks; also Orunmila, and other Orissa from ancient and earliest Egypt. Many already settled around present Ondo and Ekiti before an organised settlement at Ife. Some came through the sea just like later Phoenicians and others through the East and dessert.
Also there were many other migration from far and near even when Owa's children already in charge in our land.
We can't use one tradition to judge, if I use mine, it points to middle eastern but at the same time the oral tradition in my house gives our ruling house and Quarters in Ife; How my forefathers left Ife with their Crown for a place close to present Bini, then back to Ido Ani to somewhere around Ise Akure, then to Ado and to our present location. Surprisingly, we met people everywhere but our kingship was recognised; some even said we were of Bini Origin so as not to allow us being in charge, this we laughed at.
The tropical regions we find ourselves and 'Awo' stuff really impaired archeological traces of our history. We now rely heavily on oral tradition and egocentric stories, even from the 'Awos'.
Nice story you seem to know it all already, yet no references, no evidence. Just more claims
Do Yoruba have oral histories of coming from Israel? Or are there any Yoruba cults that perform Hebrew rituals Do Yoruba eat Hebrew food? Do Yoruba worship yahweh? Is kingship in yorubaland formed after the kingship of Isreal? Are there genetic haplogroups found in Semitic people dominant in yorubas? Do Yoruba dress like Hebrews?
Simple questions. If the answer to any of these questions is no, then your Hebrew claims should be thrown out to the trash at the slightest sight of it. If you want to address these points do so with references and academic/traditional sources not more claims @metaphysical @want2knowben :
0balufonlll: Indeed it is. Prof. Horton, although a foreigner, did a very solid job in the paper. In fact, he mentioned certain things in that article which made me wonder if this man was Yoruba.
I must state that I am confused by this statement of yours ' I do not believe that the Yoruba or all peoples emanated from present-day Ife via the 'chicken and sand' route , especially since I am a Bible believer'. If you believe in the 'magico-spiritual' narratives spread across the bible, then why is the chicken and sand difficult for you to believe? The stories in the bible and the chicken story are in the same class - they're myths. Besides, I should ask, have you read studies on Bible history? This may help you re-assess your 'believe' in the bible.
Lastly, you (& I) must understand that Ife early history is wrapped in cock & bull stories such as the chicken and sand theory. Why? Because Ile-Ife is an agglomeration of lineages founded by several of these Orisas so
1. each lineage fabricates stories to sell their 'product' as the foremost. For instance, the chicken and sand story isn't the only one. Orunmila has his own creation story where he created the world and not Oduduwa; there is the creation story where Olokun features prominently; there is a creation story featuring Oramfe as the creator; there is the creation story of Obatala actually creating the world without getting drunk. Again, the sand and chicken story is the most popular because Samuel Johnson filled the void of a written Yoruba history and everyone latched on to it.
2. Orisa are defied culture heroes in Ile-Ife while in other Yoruba towns, they are largely spiritual entities with their historical essence taken out. For instance, Obatala festival does not feature Obameri festival in other Yoruba towns like it does in Ife; Oduduwa festival does not feature Oduduwa's eventual murder in other places like it does in Ife; Ogun festival in Ife is solely based on how Ogun was usurped and expelled, it is not so in other Yoruba towns and so on. Conversely, you'll see that deities that are not of Ife origina lack pomp, value & followership. In fact, such deities are usually rated & treated as 'second class' - Sango is a good example. In Oyo it is massive, here, outside of Babalawo or Ifa initiates whose Odus require Sango invocation, you'll rarely find Sango anywhere. It is the same for Esu and so on. As a result of this, Ife is made up of an interconnectedness & inter-group relations of warring & neutral factions of culture heroes who continue to lay claims to spaces founded by these culture heroes.
3. Apart from wanting to out do each other with captivating and alluring mythical stories, the tales like chicken & sand one also serves the purpose of 1. Blurring the blotted parts of the history of the culture heroes that founded some of these lineages. 2. To also shroud the activities of these lineages from each other. For example: the Oduduwa group coined a story of Oduduwa using chain to descend for creation, rather, the chain is connected to his murder. If you go to Oduduwa temple/compound today, there is a tiny hole dug deep into the ground through which libations and votive materials are given to Oduduwa. Rather than declare his murder and the return of the throne to the Obatala group, they decided to spin the story to glorify their father and lineage. If anyone is in doubt, they can research the 'iteni ota' aspect of Odun Oduduwa.
Baba, it is important for us to see that our ancestors have historical essence to them. I think the problem is that many of us think these Orisas are spiritual without any aspact of human life & activities to them. It is the same ignorance that makes people ascribe chiefpriest role to the Ooni because Ife is filled with compounds of Orisas with festivals done daily without knowing that these Orisas are family properties and their businesses are handled by their respective families.
Cheers baba, laters.
I think this is something I have learnt from you, that Yoruba history is lineage based, something people don't think about
want2knowben: You are missing the point which is that the 'Jewish' have taken on an identity which is not theirs. (Try reading 'The invention of the Jewish People' and 'The Thirteenth Tribe', to start with). They took on the identity of a people displaced from their land by War and persecution. The 'Jews' admit they are no blood relations of Israel; they are converts. African Americans are testing their haplogroups and some results are linking to the Yoruba with Haplogroups identified as being of Jacob's descendants.
Try this: The Igbos are recognised as being 'Jews' by Israel. Now apply your 7 questions to the Igbo. Now apply the same 7 questions to the Falasha Jews of Ethiopia, majority of whom were evacuated to Israel.
The descendants of the victims of the transatlantic slave trade outside of Africa today, do they eat the food the ancestors took with them on those slave ships? I heard they travelled First Class with 300kg baggage allowance each! Or could it be possible that the slaves settled down in their new countries and ate and planted what was available there? Or were their brothers sending Stockfish and Akpu by DHL?
LMAO stop wasting people's time here Just provide evidence to all the claims here
want2knowben: ...... and you ignore this part of his post:
Yet the aforementioned elements are never taken into consideration, made clear when the fraudster said his conclusions are not "consistent with logical learning" rather blind faith of course it is what else?
Or do tell what part of The oral, written, artwork, spirituality, esoteric cults, religion, cuisine, language, priesthood, kingship, articles of statehood, philosophies like Omoluabi, proverbs and folklores, genetic and immune system, clothing and styling, war and weapons, and so on and so forth. of the Yoruba produce a single evidence of Hebrew origin? Do Yoruba have oral histories of coming from Israel? Or are there any Yoruba cults that perform Hebrew rituals Do Yoruba eat Hebrew food? Do Yoruba worship yahweh? Is kingship in yorubaland formed after the kingship of Isreal? Are there genetic haplogroups found in Semitic people dominant in yorubas? Do Yoruba dress like Hebrews?
want2knowben: You go investigate the claims, if you suspect them to be false.
[s] That you can translate the Torah correctly by vowelising the consonants to yield Yoruba words, that match the accounts of the Bible and even yield additional information that was missed in KJV translation (because they didn't understand Yoruba/Hebrew enough) is proof enough. No other unfabricated living language is able to do that. Paleo-Hebrew is the Yoruba's ancient script. It is also called the Samaritan script. The people who own the language are the same people who have the traditions and customs.[/s]
If that does not convince you, try your hand at vowelising the Torah to yield your language of choice and bring it back here to share with us!
I have investigated and all such claims are false. Macof has already debunked all your claims on this thread so what again are you holding on to if not illogical faith?
Interesting enough, Yoruba language and Japanese can be stretched well enough to propose a connection even better than this Hebrew - Yoruba nonsense
macof: Like i have said, anybody who wants to be anything than what he really is will look for something and find something. if you wanted to be Chinese, you will find Chinese connection , if you wanted to be native american you will find a connection
1. provide evidence that the same method of proving virginity is used only by the hebrews and Yoruba and no other people 2. i already made clear that the reason for new yam festivals in west africa (not just yorubaland) is different from the idea of first fruits. Let me explain more. New yam festivals are purely a celebration of a succesful harvest, in many towns this signifies the beginning of the year as the ifa festival signifies the beginning of the year in Ile-ife. first fruits are however a lot more than mere harvest celebrations but payments to the priests and sacrifice to the isreali deity, the first fruit has no calendar significance and is not an elaborate celebration, it is a sacrificial event.
but because you want to be hebrew so bad, you see connection where there is none, assuming you wanted to be chinese you would talk about the Mid-Autumn festival which is also an harvest festival that takes place around the same time as new yam festivals in west africa.
4. i would like to see a detailed account of Jewish naming ceremony with its source being a renowned Rabbi stating it must be 8 days after birth. Because as far as i know, hebrew traditions have always left naming a baby to be free choice of the parents, babies can be named the day they are born with no ceremony at all...its not even a part of hebrew traditions
5. Omi Ayelal is for crimes different crimes, hebrew bitter water is specifically for women accused of adultery. the process of making Omi ayelala is also diferent from that of the Bitter water.
6. any evidence?
7. good thing you called it 'coincidence'. because that is just what they are. Have you tried looking for such coincidences in other people? Have you tried yoruba connection with the japanese, or yoruba connection with egypt, or yoruba connection with germans? You will find many, especially when you are willing to twisting some facts a little towards your argument
What you lack however is evidence
Watch how they ignore questions and run away from proving their claims.
MetaPhysical: want2knowben, Thanks for your several input. Personally I believe research into Yoruba origin and past must be done via a multi-faceted approach. The oral, written, artwork, spirituality, esoteric cults, religion, cuisine, language, priesthood, kingship, articles of statehood, philosophies like Omoluabi, proverbs and folklores, genetic and immune system, clothing and styling, war and weapons, and so on and so forth....are interesting points that can be inspected. Some of them are outside the scope of what any empirical research or scholarship can discover. For instance if we submit our priesthood to academy to explain they will miss the target because the concept of offering, which is at the root of priesthood, is an esoteric knowledge derived through power of inspiration and contact with nature.... it is consistent with faith but inconsistent with the process of logical learning in academy . Therefore, I should forewarn you that you will encounter a heavy push back here from academically planted pre-suppositions that many contributors are incapable of shedding. Do not lock down into a back and forth argument. Just share what you are inspired with and what you know. There are many of us here that have been enlightened through an alternate way of reviewing Yoruba origin, and we will support you. There are many ways, each to his/her own.
Keep up the good work!
I'm following you by the way.
Its funny how you people constantly expose yourselves as frauds but still bold enough to deny it when it's so clear
you describe yourself as one whose idea of history is based on faith rather than logical learning. Pure nonsense
Olu317: As usual, you are always triggered at my post youngman? If you want evidence, take Hebrew lessons of old.....At least, your first and only lesson from me is to let you know that,you start learning the foundational Hebrew from right handside: .......etc..........Hey/Hei Waw Dalet Gimel Beyt Aleph
Be a good student as I am under my own teacher and see how value will be added to your knowledge to become more productive....... . Learning Old Hebrew is fun and expose critics like you to what you have never known in your life . Pick interest in it ,‘Doubting thomas', and be humbled.
Olu317: Do not be distracted by evil and empty heads that have neither nothing to add nor nothing to proof but confusionism as regard their hatred for the truth. So,fear not becaause, aqeb ( Yacob) was a name given to the second child born as a twin in ancient Hebrew days ,which is Akeinde( Yoruba); he that came behind the first and became the older one(Akeinde gba égbon). It is practically the same meaning with ancient Hebrew.
Rejoice because you are admired and respected by the western world as a Yoruba breed because ofyour history which own the secrecy of the world's creation and advanced knowledge of a supreme God in your palm that became documented thousands of years through Assyrians,Persians, Greeks ,Egyptians record.........
Cheers
Lmao. Truth? More like idiocy I don't even want to go through another back and forth with a fraudster.
Assyrian, persian, Greek records etc When you provide Yoruba records you wouldn't need to stress yourself
want2knowben: KAAAAAAAAAAAABIYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIO! Finally. Yoruba is confirmed omo Jakobu! I gotta get me a veeerery old yoruba Bible!
......Awa Iran Israel ni Africa, e gbola Oluwa ga Ajagunmolu wa ti g'oke lo, l'ati lo p'ese aye Ke Hosanna..... (C&S Hymn 346)
HalleluYAH!
Thanks for sharing this, Mulakintanwa. Been on the discovery/awakening journey since early this year . God bless you.
More like destruction journey. You've discovered nothing without evidence All these people are using your worship of Hebrews as emotional leverage to totally disconnect you from your Yoruba heritage and ancestry
I would like to add that for the Yoruba folks, apart from praise poems and such, notable events are etched in cultural festivals and coronations.
To understand the origins of Oduduwa one may need to investigate the legacies he left behind or those legacies that are said to be connected to him. An instance is the Ooni’s coronation. Once a candidate has been selected by the combined efforts of the Otun & Osi Ife, the procession for coronation begins at Oke Ora. The Ooni-elect will go to Oke-Ora (he used to spend a number of days back in the days), eat certain things & dress a certain way, then walks down from Oke Ora with certain people (who are now chiefs), he takes a certain pathway and stops over at certain compounds where he is joined one by oneby certain people and led to the first place Oduduwa was settled called Idio.
In specific terms, looking at festivals in Ile-Ife where lineages are strictly founded by deities and thus reflecting on the structural planning of the town. One may need to look at festivals and one of such notable examples is Odun Idio (Oduduwa festival) which features Idio group (those who were Oduduwa’s people) and Aloran/Omitoto group led by Obaloran who was one of Oduduwa’s sons who is hardly ever talked about.
Also, one would find that certain families/compounds derive their relevance from the roles their ancestors played alongside other deities - this is besides the families started by major deities. One of such notable figures is Ejio, Oramfe’s son. Ejio was one of the few people who knew Oduduwa & his groups were coming. And on the day Oduduwa decided to walk down from his abode, Ejio was thhe first to walk down a certain path to receive him and led him to a certain quarter where he was settled (Other quarters rejected the idea of the re-division of lands to accommodate hill settlers who wanted access to the fertile land for farming). This Ejio is the progenitor of Obajio.
Another notable personage was Orunto. He spear-headed the unification of the fragmented autonomous communities into a single unit. He was one of the notable figures of the pre-Ife period who would rather have a unified system with a centralized government than a scattered one. He succeeded and became Obalufe (Oba of Ife).
If you look at the Ooni’s chiefs to the right, the Obalufe, Obajio, Obaloran are chiefs/town kings who co-rule with Ife. The essence of their positions stem from their place in Ife early history. The latter additions of Akogun (added during Oranmiyan’s time), Ejesi, Waasin & Jagunosin were added during Ademiluyi & Osinkola’s times respectively.
In conclusion, Oduduwa did not migrate from Mecca. The Mecca migration theory is Oyo’s history of Oduduwa. It is Oyo’s attempt at reconstructing Ooni’s position as that of a chief priest of slave progeny in order to catapult their own king, the Alaafin, to the fore of Yoruba monarchy. Looking at the history of Ile-Ife, none of the legacies left behind during the Oduduwa period reflects Mecca or Bini, everything is totally local. The festivals and historical re-enactments are considered evidences enough in Historiography. Thank you & pardon my intrusion.
Tushkito: What a confused person, your hatred for igbos will make u run mad one day just like the rest of your people, run along boy the internet never forgets
Just wasted my time arguing with a hateful afonja thinking that he is half igbo SMH.
Tushkito: The guy that opened that thread was a trouble maker but you some how believe that you are not? you posted once that you are not igbo, so what makes u have the right to meddle into igbo affairs?
Those festivals are not culturally bankrupted even with their outdated traditions and the number of people that die everyyear? you would go through any length to defend your tribe afonja, you know absolutely nothing about the way igbos behave, you think that your tribe is better than igbos, you come to nairaland and write trash about some igbos claiming to be Jews but somehow you've never opened a thread about Yoruba's claiming to be Hebrews.
You stay at the comfort of your home in Austria(ie if u live there) and use nairaland of all forums as a measure to judge igbos, nairaland that someone can have up-to seven accounts or more to cause mischief is what u use to write trash, you are arrogant and pompous for thinking you are better than igbos when in the real sense yorubas are the most vile form of people I have ever seen.
Afonja stop been a hypocrite and talk more about your people, there is no day that goes by without you coneheads opening threads about igbos, crazy set of people.
Keyword "igbo ancestry" don't mix things up in your bid to find me out. Having some igbo ancestry doesn't mean I must identify as igbo.
Why are you more interested in my personal life and Yorubaland than the issues raised in the op? Deal with the cultural bankruptcy of igbos and stop derailing the thread
Tushkito: Look here, I don't fancy hypocrites who think it's "ok" to bash other people's ethnic group but not "ok" to bash there's.
#Hypocrite
your beautiful and glorious yoruber peeps are the most culturally bankrupt and the most disgusting set of people on earth, let's talk about your people shall we, let's talk about the disturbingly rising rate of ritual, homosexualism and rape in the south west, what is ur traditional religion doing about it? isn't it orisha or whatever?
what about the fact that Muslims and traditionalist can't see eye to eye amongst your perfect tribe? Or the fact that women are not allowed to come out in certain traditional festivals in Lagos, LAGOS OO people even go missing that day due to ritual killings, if that practice is not barbaric, I don't know what is, don't come here and start writing trash about a people u claim to share link with and yet u don't do the same for ur yoruba side.
You are not a NWAFOR, you can't speak igbo and am sure u don't even know the road to ur hometown in the east, you have no RIGHT whatsoever to talk about igbos.
And if you are offended by this reality, there's nothing I can do for you.
I'll be waiting for your reply
You know that the person who opened that thread is a troublemaker, the issue he tried to raise on his experience with certain Yoruba groups is a lie because none of such people claim not to be Yoruba.
Your hatred has blinded you from reasoning yet Yoruba and igbo are more alike than different. And on that very issue on what groups belong to what ethnicities igbo have more problems in that regard as the igbo nation is more fragmented and historically divided than yorubas
All the cases you have mentioned here from rape, to rituals to oro are not cultural bankruptcy. And I can sense your dissent for African traditions as a typical lost igbo I love how you still didn't answer my question or address the op but more interested in finding me out and talking about Yoruba
I have all the right in the world to talk about Igbo You need to listen to criticism
Fatherofdragons: Just take a look at this stinking hypocrite, you write trash about igbos yet u go berserk at another person? is you for real?
you even claim to be half igbo yet all you do is bash igbos and rep ya yar*iba side, really?
This nigga never go east before, that is why en dey write nonsense for nairaland, dey para untop my people anyhow, if you want to know about odinani u ask in a respectful way and not like a regular afonja.
I want you to ask your parent from the igbo side about odinani or better still travel home ie if u see igbos as ur kin and learn about it, don't come on nairaland to ask such cuz 80% of the people here are below the age of 30.
You are talking about Christianity when half of ur beloved yar*iba peeps are Christians while the other half Muslims if not more.
Hypocrite.
You still haven't addressed the op.
Igbos are lost and applauding Ipob agitation for a Jewish state. All this ultimately a result of cultural bankruptcy on a larger scale than yorubas
Keep trying to find me out but I'm not you problem Neither are yorubas your enemies
Tushkito: Seeing that u have not answered my question proves to me that u are not igbo even if u claim u have an igbo side.
you have lived all your life in Yoruba land which is ur other side, u can speak Yoruba but u sure as hell can't speak igbo, you are igbophobic as I saw in your post on a particular thread and u have abandoned ur thread like the coward that u are.
You are nothing but a regular afonja and I pray u should apply the same advice u posted in that other thread in this one.
Leave igbos alone and focus on ur Yoruba side.
Thanks.
A person has more important things to do you assume he abandoned his thread
I also asked you a question that you didn't answer despite posting twice after that already. Again I ask, what happened to the igbo ancestral traditions? Odinani?
Igbos are culturally bankrupted and its disgusting on a personal level for me for already obvious reasons If you are so offended by this reality there is nothing I can do for you
Culture › Re: Ile-ife’s Pre-eminence In Yoruba Land by OlaoChi: 1:46am On Jan 08, 2019
of course it is what else?
Or could it be possible that the slaves settled down in their new countries and ate and planted what was available there? Or were their brothers sending Stockfish and Akpu by DHL? 
