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0balufonlll:
Baba make I add one.

Ruin in English - destroy

Run in Yoruba is - destroy.

We may also have a little bit of Anglo origin o.

I added some more English - Yoruba words above

Brother, English is our ancestral language o

Olu317:
Continue ......Being studious is all you need to see through. In as much as you don't have knowledge of these middle east knowledge or Asia History, then I rest my case on you because as I had said earlier, go study to counter me.

You have no knowledge. You are a fraud

No proper education, no stable job

With all this interest in history and anthropology if you had common sense you would have studied that but you didn't now you want to use Yoruba history as your meal ticket
Babanla hustle miss road, because no food for you here

I've told you, go and challenge historians and linguists in the universities since you know better than them

Ferdinand de Saussure, says,‘the surest way to prove a cultural contact between peoples is to adduce linguistic evidence (Ferdinand de Saussure (1972) General HISTORY OF Africa).

correct and that is exactly what has been done to place Yoruba as a local west African culture

Olodo like you, Kindly engage a linguist to explain to you on how to match two words to see if they are related or not.

oh now you know there is a method in matching two words to see if they are related, now you know that because I posted some English words similar to Yoruba, you should have claimed the English are Hebrews too like you tried to claim Japanese are connected to Hebrew.. Clown

In all this, you have failed in your word match up. Just like the other clown who ran away said Hebrew is Iberu in Yoruba just because it sounds alike without recourse for the meaning and etymology of both words

Two words sounding alike doesn't mean they are related, sometimes they may refer to roughly the same thing but what about the etymology?


So don't talk to me about how to match two words because you fail at that.

Honestly, keep trying and you will get there. So with your seriousness ,you didnt know the modern spoken Hebrew you picked up as water developed in phases from the ‘mem' , probably from the word mayim meaning "water." The word MAYIM is the plural form of 'MAH',

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why aren't you into the comedy business instead of history and linguistics? History and linguistics are obviously not your thing, you're just forcing yourself and it's not making you any money

I say comedy because this is real fun here

"Mahyeem" is the proper way to write it but it is basically the same as the simplified "Mayim"

The bolded part is a pure lie, first the word "mem" is the Hebrew equivalent of 'M' as in the alphabet M in Latin and other Latin derived scripts

So the word "Mahyeem" or Mayim (since you want to simplify it) has was not derived from "mem". Mem is simply what the first letter of the word is called

And Mahyeem is not plural

Which brings me a good point,
How come Hebrew has plural forms but yoruba like other Volta - Niger languages do not? Since you say Yoruba language is derived from Hebrew?

The spoken language in Israel during Jesus Christ time were three languages(Aramaic Roman-Greek) after the extinction of original Hebrew language. . How many times do you even know Israel was occupied by other powerful kingdoms after the fall of ancient Israel? Lord have mercy on this young man and his school of thought .So you didnt know the Hellenistic revolt? , This was what led to the influence of Roman- Greek that became the spoken after the rest of Israel were taken as slaves.

Irrelevant. You like ranting and going off topic

I thank God that DNA tests have been done severally on all the human fossil discovered by scientists and the near time of existence has no link to Nigeria either in the past or present day . Go figure this out and learn more about the human species; Homo sapiens, Homo naledi, Homo heidelbergensis,Neanderthals and Denisovans.

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This is also irrelevant because early hominids were neither Yoruba nor Hebrew
These identities started long after humans(Homo sapiens) had established settlements and began to build civilizations.

You are just embarrassing yourself and exposing your idiocy because it makes no sense to start talking about Homo Heidelbergensis and Denisovan etc who existed over 200 thousand years ago when we are talking about Hebrews. Hebrews are not the first human civilization and the entire human race doesn't owe Hebrew anything so why try to attach Hebrews to early hominids? Are you mad or something? This hebrew worshiping has gone too far

So you didn't know that English language borrowed many words and anglicised them ? Go learn about the history of the English language and how other languages influenced her's

so Hebrew influenced English language to the extent that Iron, wore(past of wear), concern, for, our, inner, and in, all entered the English lexicon?
Yet none of these words match Hebrew words of the same meaning

OK. Your logic turns the world over

....Henceforth no time for you because you are a distraction. I have nothing to proof to you but you will keep seeing information on NL to LEARN FROM ME,the reason being that without me opening your mindset to these things, you could hardly know.... As you can see , I am making you to study

On a final note,I dont want to engage you on irrelevant issue oooo Oga anymore except you bring something tangible or you reference researchers work. Ordinarily I would have posted the ancient Hebrew lexicon and the developmental phases but I won't because I want you to spend your resource; be it monetary or time on research.


C'est fini

You are a fraud. Jobless guy.

Olu317:
Who told you,that you are the targeted audience on NairaLand? Oh my lord have mercy . The audience is the world and not you.

I guess I'm out of this world then

I hope you know nairaland doesn't pay you for posting? So this is hustle miss road
If selling books wasn't successful how is posting on nairaland better? But what's my business, it's your hustle

But nairaland audience will still ask for evidence

I can see how bittered you feel. On my work, I have on several occassion referenced historians,anthropologist etc and the usage of EMPIRICAL ANALYSIS to buttress my research but hardly do this relevant looking Olaochi( Òlà o sì or Òlà o shì) who has never referenced any Yoruba scholar that has categorically stated Yoruba started in West Africa's Southwest Nigeria but self opinion. Non has said so Why are you pained?. Bantu is associated with many groups in subsahara Africa and is a very large group but unfortunately the pygmies genetic in Bantu is not found in Yoruba, that astounding geneticists have confirmed. Young man, you are the one looking for your identity, I AM NOT.

Banji Akintoye is one who has stated a Yoruba culture is local west African one.
But that's not the point, because stating and claims aren't good enough, evidence is the real deal and there is enough of it.
historians do not have the material that goes that far back in time but linguists do, in that regard take this up with linguists of all universities of the world who categorize Yoruba, Edo and Igbo as members of a close common language family

A liar will always be known as Judas Iscariot was because, I didn't claim Hebrew land as the solely place of Yorubas but many groups outside West Africa , even with proven linguistic connection.
There are Yoruba word, with similar meaning to different ancient Pharaoh's time that Roman empire invaded Egypt. Google the meaning of ‘ blood'. Perhaps your brain will reset properly
Kindly mention people in west Africa or sub sahara Africa with sich linguistic similarities

I thank God for your life because you have seen reason to do research so that you can counter me but trust me, YOU will be LOST IN THE ANTLATIC SEA OF KNOWLEDGE .

You are loud on Hebrew origin, if you also propagate mixing from many different cultures then you just made your work more difficult because you will need to prove all of them

Claims are not evidence mr. Man.

Show us the findings once and for all

Like I have shown anybody can claim Yoruba came from anywhere. I can list 5 words in any language that are similar to 5 words in Yoruba and boom! Yoruba descended from them
There is nothing special in finding a few words that are written similarly or sound similar. What about the etymology? And how much of such word similarity exist?

You ignore the fact that the Hebrews have good record of their history and never is it recorded that a group migrated into west Africa. You forget that Hebrew language itself is not just a collection of words, there is Grammer, verbal conjugation, gender of words, sentence structure, plural Forms etc
All which have no correlation with Yoruba language

Even the similar words pattern you stick to is flawed because you would need more than just a few words, at least 20% of the entire lexicon of both languages

I wish you know that the group you mentioned as Japanese are in the Asia region and not in West Africa or subsahara Africa. Shared of one word you mentioned as having Japanese origin,is also closely related to Hebrew's word for ‘WATER' . Shogun is also related to Rephaim group in middle east ancestry of Hebrew enclave word for gwg(og). The Bible also mentioned this name too. See your life?

this man is a clown
Who does not know the Japanese are Asians? Is that suppose to make you look smart? You wish I know Japanese are Asians? Lmao

My point for bringing up the Japanese is to show you how stupid it is to claim Hebrew origin as anybody can claim foreign origin using just few similar words

English - Yoruba
Wore - Wo
Iron - Irin
Concern/connect - Kan
For - fun
Our - awa
Inner - Inu
In - ninu

Mizu (Japanese for water) has nothing to do with Mahyeem(Hebrew for water)

The part I put in bold is just off, makes no sense

I can't believe you are trying to claim Japanese are Hebrew because I posted som Japanese words similar to Yoruba
Are the Anglo-Saxon and Normans Hebrews too?

You're the biggest clown on earth . Kindly mention the meaning of your Ibo language and see if it is linked . The Ibo word, ‘Anu', is similar to Akkadian's ‘Anu', in its meaning but yoruba ‘Anu' is same meaning with Ancient Hebrew's ‘Hannan'or ‘Hanon'. Go figure it . Before Bishop Ajay crowther changed some letters unknowingly, Rev. Samuel Johnson acknowledged it in his book. For instance ‘O' letter was ‘È' letter in the ancient Yoruba time. I think I should expose your knowledge again because ‘Olu' is anciently pronounced as (Èlu),which is the same as Hebrew's ‘Èli' meaning ‘LORD'......You are toooo unstudied to challenge me.

Lastly, I have identity but you don't Mr..... . I dare you to post your real Oriki(panegyric) and proof your yorubaness. And if it is a modern day oriki,I will know and unravel you but you WON'T .



Èmí òmò àrùgbò ìlè Àbìkà lòrùn

Proudly Oduan

nothing to say here, I can't take these seriously. Igbo Akkadian??
And why are you calling igbo my language? Funny clown

absoluteSuccess:
Do you see something is wrong with such claims?

Thank God you acknowledge my capacity for long epistle: I can produce volumes of incredible works on a given topic in my field of experience, but how about you and scanty points? You will ever wait unto people to learn and have nothing tangible to offer once no one produce any masterpiece in the academia for you.


Not at all, a diligent man is supposed to share his findings with kings, not mean men. I'm a christian, and the bible says, 'Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

this is just too funny. How is this about me?
At least you know very well that I state facts established and published by recognized institutions and researchers.

Anybody can claim Yoruba came from anywhere, some claim Arab some claim Sudan, some claim Egypt, you can olu claim Hebrew
I like to think we came from the Japanese

Mizu - Omi - water
Otsuki - Osupa/Osukpa - Moon
Shogun - Ogun - relating to war and military
And many more

So don't say I can't reinvent, I engage in writing adventure fiction and gain inspiration from many cultures and historical events so I know history and I know how to spot fact from fiction, evidence from imagination. I know when I see another fictional imaginative narration

There is nothing wrong in relying on historians to learn history, stop trying to be what you are not trained to be.
With this you have already invalidated yourself and your claims establishing yourself to be a fraud, because you do not rely on historians, you just admitted to reinventing history to suit your need for relevance in life

Lmao how am I mean? This is not a big issue, you say Yoruba are Hebrews, I have asked for proof to no end what else do you expect to be called then if not funny clowns? It is not being mean, again if you are diligent we would know by the time you start dropping evidence left and right, even I will join your Hebrew squad

Also if you intend to share your findings with "kings" *(quite poetic) why are you posting the claims without the evidence and expect sane people to take you seriously?
Since we are dogs on nairaland

Your religion has done you more harm than good, driven you to worshipping the people who started the religion

Since you have been hunting for claims trailing me, had I ever earn one good compliment from you? I'm not good enough for you because there is no good in you to offer anyone than mudfight. Only swines does that.

Trailing you?? Lmao. You wish

Are you hungry for compliments? I don't understand

I just ask for evidence all this emotional outburst is unnecessary

No, as early as 2007, I've been writing and self-publishing books in my 20s. My first book was produced 2007 and my second title was on Yoruba, 'Yorubas Glorious Secrets' (2009). But I only discover as a young writer in a country of people who do not really fancy reading that much, I must create alternative source to survive. I'd want to survive as an author or publisher.

At a spot in Ikeja in 2007 I was selling my book and a man made a comment, 'aa saa jeun' meaning, 'we must eat' I felt terribly bad to think that all I'm doing was reduced to a mussel of bread by a stranger. There are people whose utmost idea of whatever you might be doing is trash, they have no excellence in them, so they can't see how what you are doing is of any excellence.

Out there, they think you are doing it for piecemeal, here they think you don't have the right to do this or do that: it is left to you to choose if your passion is their passion or their passion is your passion. Albeit, their passion is to stop you from actualizing what you have passion for. When you quit, you actualize their passion, they succeeded in making you quit. Well, don't give up.

while your experience is sad it is has nothing to do with your lack of scholarship and expertise, that is something you chose, it takes nothing to study and build yourself on the subject, you are not better than those who studied history and Linguistics for years

So distorting Yoruba history is suppose to be your meal ticket? Do not blame unemployment
Neither should you blame the Nigerian people for not purchasing your book when you are not affiliated with any institution. You can volunteer your services to a university department and publish your findings through them or even make use of their journals as your source and seek their support for publishing and distribution, that is what researchers do, you are no researcher if you are afraid of doing this, or maybe you have tried and were rejected

In summary, Reinventing history is not hustling it is wrong

And in that regard how well has it gone for you since 2007 or whenever it was that you started your Hebrew claims?
My advice to engage in academia should not be lost on you if you are really serious.

But to late Prof. Akinwunmi Ishola, he said he has been reading Yoruba history in the past but none has been written in my style. I said sir, is it a good work? and he said, 'yes, very well'. He has excellence, so your aspiration to something excellent cannot be a threat to him. Well, that's not an achievement to me, it simply means I have a unique contribution to make to the body corpus of knowledge.

good for you then. But where is the evidence? We are still on that spot

The word hebrew transliterate to iberu, or Eberu in Yoruba: If you have a sense of history, I'll remind you of Ojo-'beru, its the name of an icon in Yoruba that may be an hebrew. He is so called because he is fearless. Hebrew means eberu and its the word for courageous or fearlessness in Yoruba. iberu is the dread, and the dread is on you.

You see why you need training? You don't know the very basics of the subject you want to teach nairaland but get angry when corrected or questioned

I know you will be pissed off and won't learn from this but here goes...

"Hebrew " from old French Ebreu, From Latin Hebraeus, From Greek Hebraios, from Aramaic Ebrai, from Hebrew Ibri meaning "one from the other side(of the Euphrates)

www.etymonline.com/word/hebrew

I guess you know more than linguists and actual Hebrew speakers

Ibẹru means Fear not fearlessness

If you have a product and you don't know your target audience, that product has already failed. Never mind, you have no product, so you have nothing to lose. Plato started the academia and wrote the republic and other works, his students became philosophers and today philosophy is a branch of knowledge in the university. Plato was originally a student of Socrates. Both were not products of any university.

When you have valid knowledge or contributions that can add value or new insight to human development in any sphere of life, patent it and keep the copyright. The University will come to learn from you. That's how its suppose to be. But if you have no clue as to why you are here, the University will teach you what you can do to add meaningful contributions to further human development.

When you produce a good work, launch it, and your readers will become great teachers and recommend your contributions to the ministry of education, and you might be awarded a doctorate degree, honorary caucus. I'm joking, work and improve on your job, many have no content but context, but only few have both content and context. When you do, create a platform to embrace your idea and the academia may take note of your contribution if need be. You are serving humanity, not the academy.

Take away is, there are people that goes to the university, and there are people that the university goes to, hence the university is a school to fan the embers of knowledge in custody of man, not where human knowledge is reduced to trash.

I want to hope you are learning?

anyone who doesn't know better would think you are one of those you say have content and context, but here's the thing you do not live in the 5th century BC you live in the 21st century AD so you cannot pioneer what already exists neither can you dismiss what actual historians say when you are no historian yourself. That is why I said go learn the basics which you obviously lack or if you feel you are above that you should goband challenge them to their face in the history department not nairaland where you cry and then you get pissed when asked for evidence as if you expect same people to take you seriously

Since you have targeted nairaland audience, why do you get angry when your audience ask for evidence to back up your claims?

absoluteSuccess:
'blackman-blackmind'. Always playing the race card to a fault.

I'm black, I don't make anything out of it, it never stops me from shining ever so bright and rocking my generation, it never shall stop me from teaching the world what is never known to her. I'm not into "I'm black and proud", its 'inferiority complex' lingo. I am to shine as black. 'I'm black and so be it'. It is not my strength or my weakness. It never stop me from shining as a star, its a opportunity to excel at a course.

The world is not about whiteness/blackness all the time. There is no black race, white race, pink race and so on and so forth, from the onset. Its all 'human race'. All mankind shares common experience and inter-connectivity from the onset of time. But people fixed in 'the racist bloc' cannot come out of the bloc or shall ever think out of the box, its a fixed context. Race-mongers are often racists and hatists in their own race itself, and self-conscious individuals who does not want to mix with anyone in the first place. This becomes a worldview in them, they are only comfortable in their skin.

To this folks, the race surpass everything humanity have in common. The class struggle dialectics is all they want to see or hear about, arguments like 'black is better than white', 'white populate the world', 'black phenotype is the origin of man' and so on. People fixed in this box are waiting earnestly for where and when the next stunning scientific discovery that will stupefy their opponent will come from, meaning, they are not making ingenious mental progress of their own, they are waiting for one 'expert' with magic wand to 'fix it' and supply 'the missing link'. So, you earn their wrath if you are not colour conscious.

The world was not started by any race, but one race or the other will dominate at one time or the other. Scientists didn't create the world but scientists came and did their studies of nature. Linguist did not create language, but they did their studies on it. Historians did not invent history, they are students of their studies, religion not left out. There shall be no holds barred, all men shall be free to study any aspect of peculiar interest.

When men tell you that you do not have the qualification to make conclusions, they are projecting their innate weakness or excuses for lack of perception to you. Nature did not wait for linguists to teach you how to speak and use your cognitive ability. If the Wright brothers were to wait for what the experts have to say, the Aeroplane wont have been flying in the sky. The experts are specialists, you are a generic user in their area of specialty, you are not a dummy. Nothing stops you from being smarter than specialists given the tools and expertise borne out experience.

specialists will always consult men of experience from all walks of life and generic orientation. Have you seen a man diligent in his works? Before king he shall stand, he will not stand before mere men.

Prov. 22:29.

In all this long epistle not one thing is evidence of your claims. Do you see something is wrong with such claims?

As to the Proverbs quote, quite nice but you are not deligent in your work, if you were we would know your contribution to the world of knowledge but unfortunately nairaland is where it all comes to rest

I know you Hebrew people dread challenges and questions but you can't run away from it

Since you all do not have any form of training (acedemic or traditional) I urge you to take this claims up to a university department of anthropology or history or any of the main social science and humanities faculty
That is where such "academical revolutionary ideas" belongs

gregyboy:
Asians are pale skined but they aint white they called mogolians they can easily be distinguished from white so you guys fall under anyother race but not black the fulanis can easily spoted out from blacks so the somalis Ethiopians .you all should go find a race before you talk beauty

Stop your ignorant nonsense abeg. There is no one way to be black

Olu317:
I have no interest in engaging you because ,as usual, you are inconsequential. Ibo apologist,go engage yourself with your likeminds.

Bon journée

Mr. Man you are most inconsequential go and get training and stop looking for nairaland relevance.. It is only on nairaland you have a voice. Why not open a school or publish a book or start a TV program spreading your "knowledge"?

Lmao so because I say Yoruba and Igbo are descended from the same proto-culture it means I am an igbo apologist? Lmao . OK let's even say I am what makes the Igbo so evil that to be an igbo apologist is to be frowned upon?
But then I am not even an igbo apologist, I am simply a sane Yoruba who follows facts and evidence not fiction and imagination

Olu317:
I do but I am not duty bound to proof anything to you. Ìlè nì à tì ko'eshó ro'dè but you have non. If you want evidence, keep searching, perhaps mother nature will help. You are the one whose inferiority complex dwell heavily on. As simple as ABC,you are an àkò'gbà òmò because, you use negative words in an unbridled manner. If you doubt? do serious check on yourself and see the reason, you hardly have loyal companions or friends worth relaying on. Laugh over it, I insist,you don't have. You can only use deception on here because it is faceless.
Àbó óró nì ànsó fún ómólúàbí tì o báà dè ìnù è à dì odìdì.
Call me a seer,I am!

. You are liar and hypocrite.which degree and what university department or what ile-olorisa? You will use insults on people that challenge you and then when fired back or even when told the very truth of the matter you act like a victim. Because I don't know what else you are if not a clown if after all these years on "Hebrew connection " you still have no evidence but want people not to challenge you. Very funny clown.
If it is naming calling you want instead of proving your claims I might be tempted to go for it so just take your pick
Loyal companions or friends on a faceless forum? Lmao
Thats what is achievement to you, popularity on a faceless forum. And come to think of it what companions do you have exactly? Same band of Hebrew Arab worshipper? Same People with inferiority complex and hate for their black identity?
Because that's all that binds you together, basically no body else takes your likes seriously but not everyone has the time or even interest to dispute your claims

BabaRamota1980:
We have the master plan. DAWN already studied it and invited consultants. This is not the time to roll it out. Look how Yanminri has bastardized infrastructures in Lagos. You can imagine what would happen if we transform West with the mapped out vision. It will be a total disaster. Lets just leave things as they are now...old, decrepit and rusty. They cant ruin the old stuffs more than it already is.

So you know DAWN and you make a mess of yourself on this forum. Watching their videos on YouTube and following their programs and seminars where they invite historians could have prevented you from buying into all that Hebrew Arab nonsense

Olu317:
The research being embarked upon isn't for children or the evil minds .

Àgbà nì to'ro lò , Òbà nì to' èyìn èrìn fúùn.

Lastly,for the unscholarly minds who have nothing to add but regurgitate same info same things month in month, should spend their time and resource to study acquire books or go back to school to learn more and add up to their knowledge rather than be impeded through ignorance.

Hmmmm, these people donnot know that, Bí àdàbà bà tìé npè'dè shè o ro pè éyé'lè o gbó ó , éyé'lè kú gbó o súgbón kìrìkìrì l’o kìrì.

Lmao. We both know you have no history degree or any Form of training (traditional or academic)

So what makes you the "scholarly mind"

Funny clown

We are still waiting for one evidence, Just one

want2knowben:
Care to explain what makes the post 'oshi'? Have you ever encountered any of the various Yoruba dialects in written form, other than the usual Yoruba Igbalode/ Yoruba Ajumolo?

. Yet the evidence of Hebrew origin is absent

Its one thing to make a claim popular. It's another thing to prove that claim

When you wash religion and Hebrew worship off brain you will see how stupid you are being

Patrioticooduan:
No we don't descend from a common culture. I don't share anything in common with Ibos.

Sorry you can't wish facts away. Igbó and Yoruba are even more similar than most people think due to being in the same YEAI language family

Try to treat things with an analytical and logical mind not sentiments. If you want to hate igbos your business but facts are facts

Patrioticooduan:
Tell me your ethnicity

I'm Yoruba

But what has that got to do with the fact that the ethnicities from Akan eastwards to the Igbo are descended from a common culture?

Patrioticooduan:
I know you will never tell me your tribe. It is either your wife is Ibo or you are mixed blood. No be me put inside wahala. You allowed stupidity in the form of love to take over you. You married an Ibo person and you are begging us to accept you. Anyways, don't share anything in common with Ibos. Yorubas are more similar with Fongbes and Akans and not Ibos. I happened to have lived in Benin and Togo to notice.
Ibos share more in common with central Africans. The facial feature is there. Even Ibos are aware of this.
Besides, there is nothing like Nigeria ethnic group. Nigeria does not have a language or culture. It is a British experiment

You asked where I am from I answered. Now you want to know my ethnically as of my ethnicity matters in a subject of anthropology. You asking me my ethnicity and ranting about mix blood and marriage shows you want me to be sentimental like you rather than logical.

When you grow up come back with facts and logic not anti igbo sentiments

PS. I did say Akan up till igbos are all descendants of a proto - culture..

The Hebrew worshiping continues

The white man really did a good one on Africans. Many are so displeased and hate their history and ancestors that they must reinvent their own history

Funny enough none of these people are historians or anthropologist or linguists

Religion has finished Africa

Patrioticooduan:
Where are you from?

Nigeria

Patrioticooduan:
There is no stereotype anywhere. Ibos and Hausas look different from Yorubas. I can easily recognise an Ibo when I see one

. Out of flawed Stereotypes oga

Patrioticooduan:
Lies! Ibos are closer to Congolese people. Their facial features is enough is obvious for all to see

Yes igbos are closer to congloese than for example yoruba but igbo are still descendants of the same common ancestors with Yoruba. Evidence in DNA analysis, linguistic and cultural elements prove this

There is nothing like igbo facial features, that's just stereotypical

phase1:
Descendants of yoruba people sold into slavery by yoruba people who sold their brothers for a bottle of dry gin.

yoruba muslims are still selling their other yoruba brothers to the hausas fulanis till today for pieces of akara. Backstabbing have been in their blood since the days of oduduwa.

Ignorant fool. Slaves were always captured by other nations not their own people

Most of these yorubas were captured by Nupe and Fon people

Igbos on the other hand usually sold igbos from other nearby Villages... Fellow igbo regardless

ike007:
Before talking about how great your tradition is,why not do a major research? The Yorubas were sold unto slavery more than any other tribes in Nigeria. The Igbos will rather die than associate themselves with slavery. So is it any wonder why this culture survived. ? And further more, the slavers allowed their worship to prevail and go on, because they didn't think it was necessary to convert a lesser race to Christianity. As heaven was meant for only whites. this white people you see here are mostly mixed race. No hundred percent European would partake in this dirty culture. read nndi ofe mannu and stop feeling uppity.

Bigfrancis will disagree with you that more igbos were sold to slavery

And it is a big lie that the Yoruba traditions were allowed, common sense would tell that if it was the Yoruba descendants would have no need to hide their traditions in catholism

Dirty culture is better than dead (igbo) culture

Patrioticooduan:
Yoruba people share more in common with Fongbes, Ewes and Ajahs. Fogbe men and women dress like Yoruba. We don't share anything in common with Ibos and Hausas. Igbos look like central Africans e.g Congolese, while Hausa and Fulanis look Black North Africans e.g Malians. We should not be in the same country.
May Eledumare continue to bless Yoruba race.
Ashe.

Igbo are part of the group too. As well as Akan people of Ghana and Ivory coast

Mynd44:
What "our mothers" had wasn't exactly marriage. It was another form of servitude

. Speak for your own mothers. It is known fact that most African cultures respected their women and wives.

queensera:
A Nigerian lady with the username @dark_chocolatl took to his insta-story to share screenshots of what his toaster did after she demands N20k from him to prove that he likes her.

Source:
http://nairaplus.com/2018/08/nigerian-lady-demands-20k-from-her-toaster-to-prove-that-he-likes-her-photos/

This your English is so horrible. How does anyone understand what you are saying?

Sinistami:
but really o would it kill for you lot to be related. I mean all this people saying God forbid and shit. and that one is pointing to Arab origin. I swear all this Tribalists ehn, later when you hear of blacks being killed at the UK or the US you'll start screaming racism. Bunch of Hypocrites I swear I hate every single one of you even if that person is later found out to be my uncle in real life I still hate you.
#GodblessNigeria
#GodblessNigerdelta
#GodblessBayelsa
More Ass and less pepper from my Yoruba Girlfriend.

It is failed education and religious nonsense that I blame

How people can't see the similarities between Akan, Ewe, Fon, Yoruba, Edo and Igbo is not the problem(we can blame ignorance) it's how some think Yoruba or Igbo are Hebrews that is the problem

Just plain stupid

Kennydoc:
Biko, how do people do that, I mean mouth action?
When I consider the kind of sweating that goes on in the groin and around the genitals, and the kind of smell that can come out of there as a result of bacterial action on the sweats, I get stunned at how people are able to put their mouths there. I'm not yet talking about the decency and morality of it.
It's disgusting!!!

I guess since the mouth is already the most bacterial infected part of the body

bryner:
As the competition for the presidential ticket of the opposition Peoples Democratic Party gets stiffer in the run-up to the 2019 general elections, the party has said that it will rely on Nigerians to help the party choose its candidate for the presidential election.
The National Publicity Secretary of the party, Mr. Kola Ologbondiyan, in an exclusive interview with Saturday PUNCH on Friday, said the party had heard that many people, including a former Vice-President, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar; Senate President, Dr. Bukola Saraki; Sokoto State Governor, Aminu Tambuwal; his colleague in Gombe State, Ibrahim Dankwambo; and a former Governor of Kano State, Rabiu Kwankwaso, were interested in picking its presidential ticket.

As the competition for the presidential ticket of the opposition Peoples Democratic Party gets stiffer in the run-up to the 2019 general elections, the party has said that it will rely on Nigerians to help the party choose its candidate for the presidential election.

The National Publicity Secretary of the party, Mr. Kola Ologbondiyan, in an exclusive interview with Saturday PUNCH on Friday, said the party had heard that many people, including a former Vice-President, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar; Senate President, Dr. Bukola Saraki; Sokoto State Governor, Aminu Tambuwal; his colleague in Gombe State, Ibrahim Dankwambo; and a former Governor of Kano State, Rabiu Kwankwaso, were interested in picking its presidential ticket.

He, however, said the decision to rely on Nigerians was premised on the party’s determination to avoid past mistakes, impunity and imposition of candidates.

According to Ologbondiyan, the party is not backing any of those in line to get its presidential ticket. Others interested in getting the party’s presidential tickets are a former Minister of Education, Ibrahim Shekarau; former governors of Jigawa State, Sule Lamido and Ibrahim Turaki; and a former Governor of Sokoto State, Attahiru Bafarawa.

He said, “As a party, we have so many candidates already, but Nigerians will determine their next president.

“Nigerians are desirous of change; there is no argument about that. And it is more than obvious that the APC is bent on presenting President Muhammadu Buhari for a second term. The party does not have any other alternative. So, Nigerians desiring change can’t get it in the APC. They are looking at the PDP. We don’t want to disappoint them again.

“There are so many demands in the country now. Some people are agitating for restructuring, some want a leader with experience, not somebody that will get to power and wait for another six months before appointing ministers, some want young people. All of these factors will come to play in selecting our presidential candidate.

“Nigerians will signpost who they believe should lead them. We want to produce a credible candidate. Nigerians will sing the song of the one they want to lead them; the party doesn’t have any candidate yet.”

He added, “Currently, there are debates over the age of who should be our President, whether the President should be young or old. Therefore, there are so many aggregations of opinions, so what Nigerians say about the kind of candidate they want will inform our choice.

Presidential candidate: Nigerians’ll help us choose among Saraki, Tambuwal, Atiku, Kwankwaso, others, says PDP

As the competition for the presidential ticket of the opposition Peoples Democratic Party gets stiffer in the run-up to the 2019 general elections, the party has said that it will rely on Nigerians to help the party choose its candidate for the presidential election.

The National Publicity Secretary of the party, Mr. Kola Ologbondiyan, in an exclusive interview with Saturday PUNCH on Friday, said the party had heard that many people, including a former Vice-President, Alhaji Atiku Abubakar; Senate President, Dr. Bukola Saraki; Sokoto State Governor, Aminu Tambuwal; his colleague in Gombe State, Ibrahim Dankwambo; and a former Governor of Kano State, Rabiu Kwankwaso, were interested in picking its presidential ticket.

He, however, said the decision to rely on Nigerians was premised on the party’s determination to avoid past mistakes, impunity and imposition of candidates.

According to Ologbondiyan, the party is not backing any of those in line to get its presidential ticket. Others interested in getting the party’s presidential tickets are a former Minister of Education, Ibrahim Shekarau; former governors of Jigawa State, Sule Lamido and Ibrahim Turaki; and a former Governor of Sokoto State, Attahiru Bafarawa.

He said, “As a party, we have so many candidates already, but Nigerians will determine their next president.

“Nigerians are desirous of change; there is no argument about that. And it is more than obvious that the APC is bent on presenting President Muhammadu Buhari for a second term. The party does not have any other alternative. So, Nigerians desiring change can’t get it in the APC. They are looking at the PDP. We don’t want to disappoint them again.

“There are so many demands in the country now. Some people are agitating for restructuring, some want a leader with experience, not somebody that will get to power and wait for another six months before appointing ministers, some want young people. All of these factors will come to play in selecting our presidential candidate.

“Nigerians will signpost who they believe should lead them. We want to produce a credible candidate. Nigerians will sing the song of the one they want to lead them; the party doesn’t have any candidate yet.”

He added, “Currently, there are debates over the age of who should be our President, whether the President should be young or old. Therefore, there are so many aggregations of opinions, so what Nigerians say about the kind of candidate they want will inform our choice.
“We don’t want the party to be damaged again over allegations of imposition.”

Since President Muhammadu Buhari declared his intention to seek re-election in 2019, there have been discussions in political circles about who can successfully challenge him at the poll, especially in the opposition parties.

In a bid to challenge the ruling APC, the PDP and no fewer than 30 parties had recently formed a coalition in readiness for the next general elections.

Called the Coalition of United Political Parties, the collaborating parties and associations had signed a Memorandum of Understanding to jointly present candidates for elective positions.

However, this has not stopped some members of the PDP from signifying interest in getting the main opposition party’s presidential ticket.
Meanwhile, sources in the PDP have told Saturday PUNCH that the recent defection of Tambuwal and Kwankwaso has altered political calculations among some members of the party.

It was learnt that with the two leading politicians’ interest in the presidential ticket of the party, the number of strong contenders for the party’s ticket from the North-West had increased to five.

The North-West, which arguably accounts for the highest number of votes per zone, is Buhari’s traditional political stronghold.

The zone is home to seven states, the highest number in Nigeria’s six geo-political zones structure.

A top ranking member of the party, who spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of retribution, said, “Before now, the former Jigawa State Governor, Sule Lamido; his former Kaduna State counterpart, Ahmed Makarfi, and a former Minister of Special Duties, Tanimu Turaki (SAN), were the most visible contestants from the North-West.

“All three lay claim to their fidelity to the cause of the PDP throughout the years as strong selling points.”

This was earlier corroborated by Lamido in an interview with Sunday PUNCH, when he said, “If we (those who remained) had left the PDP like others, would there have been a PDP to return to?”

Until Tambuwal’s recent defection, the PDP had no sitting governor in the entire zone.

However, the arrival of Tambuwal and Kwankwaso in the picture has renewed PDP’s confidence of giving the APC and its candidate a good fight.

Authoritative sources within the PDP told one of our correspondents that Tambuwal had consulted widely on his presidential ambition before his decision to dump the APC, on which platform he was elected governor in 2015.

Some of the sources, who were privy to the workings within and outside the party, said Tambuwal was being considered as a possible candidate because of his age, educational background, cosmopolitan nature and experience.

It was gathered that the former Speaker’s experience in the legislature was also being considered as an added advantage as he was initially to challenge Buhari for the APC ticket in 2014, but had decided to contest the governorship of Sokoto State.

Kwankwaso’s supporters, on the other hand, argue that his popularity in his home state of Kano, which is reputed to have accounted for Buhari’s 1.9 million votes in 2015, and the support he enjoys in other states in the North is “as good as that of the President in the region.”

Kwankwaso, who was second only to Buhari during the 2014 APC presidential primary, is being considered as someone that could pose a threat to Buhari’s re-election bid.

The former Kano State governor has however left the decision about his political future in the hands of the party.

Kwankwaso’s spokesperson, Binta Spikin, said, “I don’t know about that (presidential ambition) because now that he is in the PDP, it is for the party to decide whether it will hold a primary or adopt a candidate.

“I don’t know about that. Until the party speaks, I cannot say anything on that. I can only hope that the party sees the potential in Senator Kwankwaso and give him the ticket.”

Another source in the PDP, who also spoke on condition of anonymity so as not to be seen as taking sides, said, “The candidate that the PDP needs is someone who has the capacity to deflate the support base of President Buhari (especially) in the northern part of the country.

“It should be someone who is seen as representing the entire country and will not treat those who didn’t vote for him with less attention. Both men are believed to be popular in the northern part of the country.”

However, Director of Media and Publicity, Atiku Presidential Campaign, Mr. Segun Sowumi, expressed confidence that the party would see what his principal is to offer and give him the chance to be its presidential candidate.

He said, “Atiku has over the years been convinced that Nigeria can be great and he also believes that so much of the greatness that people believe Nigeria can be rests on the leadership and he has also had the opportunity of being inside and outside government and knows what needs to be done.”
One of Saraki’s loyalists in the Senate, who also spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorised to speak to the media, explained that the Senate President was under pressure to join the presidential race.

The source said, “He is seriously under pressure by so many groups, friends in business, politicians – senators and governors, traditional rulers and others. But as you may know, he is somebody who listens more and will only smile than say what he will do.”

http://www.vondanews.com/presidential-candidate-nigeriansll-help-us-choose-among-saraki-tambuwal-atiku-kwankwaso-others-says-pdp-2/

Focusing on the Northwest that Buhari will surely win, why not be diverse and look to win other regions? PDP are not serious

Christistruth00:
They split when Oduduwa arrived about 1000 AD he met Igbos at Ife , the Bini also came from Ife infact the ancient Ife Kingdom reached river Niger where Asaba is today. and went as far westward as Atakampe in Togo where the people of the region are still called Ife today. Yoruba oral History recorded that the Igbos became scattered all over Yorubaland after Oduduwa overpowered their King at Ife but I believe there is genetic and linguistic evidence to show they were scattered all over southern Nigeria. 77 Igbo Kings had ruled Ife before Oduduwas arrival starting from about 300 BC. The earliest Igbo founders of Ife were called Ooyelaagbo which means the Survivors of the great flood, which Yorubas believe was the same as Noah’s flood of the Bible.

Igbo/Ugbo of Ifè have nothing to do with the Igbo/Ibo people of Southeast Nigeria

Ugbo are today in Ondo State.. Ilaje areas

smoothvee:
Oh nice! I am heading there this won’t.. having problems looking for accommodation.

You need to connect with anyone you know in Germany.. Maybe that person knows someone in Berlin
That is the easiest way or you keep trying WG.Gesucht

smoothvee:
Did you later go to berlin? How did you manage the house ish please.

. Yes I attended the language course and later moved

Its not easy in Berlin but it's still a good place for Africans coming for the first time. I was able to stay with someone I knew from Nigeria

banku:
Stop saying what you are totally unaware of. It is share arrogance to claim what you do not know.

If you are sure of your claim, back it up with authority. You do not have to agree with me. After all reasonable people can agree to disagree. But to claim you are rebuking who, especially when you have displace zero scholarship on the matter of Ogiso and Oba.

Let me go further and tell you that Nupe, Ijaw, Igala share the same Oduduwa with Yoruba. They may call the same Oduduwa Adumu, Adimu. If you know the history of Ogiso and how they got to Benin and rule over the people before Oba overthrew them, you will not be so unaware. Find out about the foremost Nigeria Youth leader of those days, an Ijaw man Ernest Sissei Ikoli who Awolowo supported for leadership.

You need to educate yourself, my friend.

So please pocket your arrogance about rebuke unless you can come up with some authorities. As I said before, when we are out of beer parlor, we go beyond superfluous argument.

Do more research and come up with authorities greater than Ade Ajayi, Peter Ekeh, Ade Obayemi and a host of others. Until then, there is no need to respond to you again.



Indeed, it is a shame that we have got to the point where we see one another as "claiming other people". This is where we are today. Some years ago, nobody would believe that Bini, Tapa and Yoruba would see one another as other people but that is reality today.

banku:
My friend, there is nothing wrong with saying you are not aware.

Dismissing well researched work of Professor Thurston Shaw on radiocarbon dating, Prof. Peter Ekeh and others that put burial of Ogiso and Oba body parts even well before the historical account Of Jacob E. by fiat is frivolous and superficial.

If you can do better show us your work or authorities. This has gone beyond beer parlor discussion. This is why I ignore those that could not articulate their points but use slur and Obscene languages to cover their ignorance.

You should have posted a picture or a link to the works of these Professors not online articles with no evidence and no scholarly source

Mind you, the evidence of any such ogiso burial would be in both Ife and Benin traditions

Olu317:
How ignorant can a young lad like you be? Everyone you seem to have come across on here see you as irrelevant so do I. Imagine, someone who had nothing connecting him to any field, related to human history becomes a 'sudden professor?' Oh yes, kindly say my discipline, since you are knowledgeable about it. arrant nonsense. Anyway, the best way to qualify you is that you lack etiquette.

really?! and it is you who isn't even schooled that is an authority on history
Btw when did I claim Professor?. You obviously didn't comprehend my post

And the best way describe you is that you lack sense.. It takes lack of education and common sense for an African to claim he is Hebrew

Olu317:
How right can he be? I don't seem to understand the kind of mindsets that are on this forum. Is it also not true that the world language was once same? If I may ask you,how are germane words among Yorubas not found in all those languages? The point here is that through each world grouping of ethnic development, spiritual doctrine brought about the difference. Olaochi is an Ibo young man and his opinion is basically his and not relevant. And if you are damn sure of your belief too,then show me linguistic evidence of words shared amongst these three group in the ancient time that are over 200 words.



I sincerely want to learn.

Cheers.

I don't post my opinions. It is true my opinions are irrelevant because I'm not a linguist or historian.. I rely on them
But you as a whole are irrelevant.not only do you post your own opinions and demand it be respected as sacrosanct fact you belittle the work of actual researchers and scholars when you never even attended a diploma course in history/linguistics/African studies or any Form of social science for that matter

PS. Im not igbo.. Keep telling yourself that though

Hebrew ass licker I bet one day you will take back your land in Isreal Abi?