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updatechange:
I think the Igbos should really work on their culture and language protecting them critically, traditionally they have a lot to do, amend and also promote.

That's exactly what sensible igbos will realize from the op. There's a serious cultural problem among igbos
@tushkito are you reading?

Tushkito:
I want to ask u a very important question, are u fluent in igbo language? cuz it's bi-tribal offsprings like you that tend to suffer from chronic identity crisis.

No im not fluent in igbo. Bi-tribal? Wtf

You talk about identity crisis? No greater Identity crisis than igbos calling themselves jews

Tushkito:
Just look at this hypocrite, u opened a thread about how igbos are lost yet you come here and attack the op of writing about yorubas?

Because my thread was based out of reality not imagination and failed division tactics
Did igbos not cheer Nnamdi Kanu's nonsense idea of creating a Jewish state? That igbos are jews?

2lateBiafra:
Yes they are TOTALLY lost, Nnamdi kalu went on exile just the way OJUKWU did, saying he will come back with HELL. LETS SEE HOW HW WILL FIGHT NIGERIAN SOLDIERS WITH THIS OLD CARGOES.

They have no foresight, no plan, just chants

What's most sad is the Jewish ass licking

It's quite unfortunate but there is nothing as sad as the realization of igbos total disconnect from their traditions and history.

All we hear are chants of Biafra, Biafra, Biafra but no substance, no reference to the igbo ethnic identity or Odinani rather Ipob talking about building a Jewish state
Substituting one system of oppression for another
Pathetic!

Igbos are now lost, disconnected from their ancestors and even reality
Do we blame Christianity?

IkpuMmadu:
Okay go to kabba and Ilorin and call the Yoruba

what is your business?

Face igboland that has ikwerre, ika, aniocha etc denying igbo

You don't have a life at all

IkpuMmadu:
Has he called himself a Yoruba and you are showing pictures ?

this guy you are troublemaker
Do you think you can use nairaland to divide yorubas?
Dunce

NwaAmaikpe:





What is her merit to be featured on BBC?
Does she even have a degree?
How learned is she?

BBC keeps making a laughing stock of Nigeria.
They feature technocrats, inventors and exemplary scholars in other countries.
I won't be surprised if a unique body odour won't be another person's shot to fame.
We've still not gotten over the fvckery of Olajumoke oni bread, now this one whose face is carved like an idol.

Tribal marking is a barbaric culture which BBC and Rihanna must not encourage or promote.
I also pray this girl does not get the international modelling job she so desires before the world will wonder what type of a people we are.

This here will make her the most famous tribal-marked person and featuring her on BBC will inspire more parents to mark their children.
Shame on you BBC for doing this to Nigeria.

You just posted nonsense

Olu317:
Well,Ignorance is the greatest plague a man lives with and you're absolutely webbed in it. There are two things you ignorantly failed to acknowledged, which are:

1. Each word that I posted has root word in ancient Semitic language

2, That each word being reference by me,isn't among the present day spoken ancient Hebrew.

3. That cognate has what is known to a word which share same meaning.

4. That word that Yoruba language discovered by me are heavily of Afro Asia origin and not of West Africa's.

5. That you will rot in envy of me . After all,I post online with reference to authored books.

6. That your egocentrism and ignorant on African tradition continue to show how you lack the pedigree to make meaningful contribution on African history or traditions because this same African continent you have little or no knowledge on had been influenced through Christianity before 556AD before Islam came into Africa.

In fact, the present day Modern Hebrew was developed through Roman-Greek language which 60% of it is intelligible to Arabic language. Unfortunately for you, ancient Hebrew is totally different language. So therefore, continue to swim in ignorance because, you don't even know what you're doing at all but have made yourself to be known as a total collateral failure.

Simple question : when will you prove "addereth" is "adire"

Olu317:
You even try ooo bro. This is because, you have exposed them to the knowledge of linguistic cognates

In cognate, there are

1. Doubles

2. Triplets

1. Doublets in English Language -

In English grammar and morphology , doublets are two distinct words derived from the same source but by different routes of transmission, such as poison and potion (both from the Latin potio, a drink). Also known as lexical doublets and etymological twins. When the two words are used together in a
phrase they are called coupled synonyms or binomial expressions.

2. Three words of this kind are called triplets : e.g., place, plaza, and piazza (all from the Latin platea , a broad street).


Furthermore ,there are

False, Accidental, and Partial Cognates

(a). False cognates are two words in different languages that appear to be cognates but actually are not

Example :

olachi's
Japanese :Tsuki x
Yoruba : Osupa x
English : Moon x

Japanese :Le
Yoruba : Ìlè
English : House

(b). Accidental cognates are not etymologically related but just happen to share form.

(c). Partial cognates are words that have the same meaning in some contexts but not others.


Submission:

Sir,forget them, these people's knowledge are retrogressive because if Hebrew's aleph is pronounced in youuba's À(Ah) etc yet they failed acknowledge it. And through Ogun stone, it is said to be of Phyiliac origin and Oranmiyan's hieroglyphs is undeciphered. I wonder what the problem with these people who can't but drag intellectuality to the mud



Cheers

@bold. This fraud knows this but still goes around this forum posting false cognates

Imagine the shameless fraud

When will you prove "addereth" is cognate of "adire"? And all the other nonsense claims

absoluteSuccess:
The joke is on you fella, you are the one at your wits end, using false cognates to embellish your claims at every turn but asking others to expose theirs to scrutiny of semantics, because your boy tell them so. Why don't you do exactly the same thing with your false cognates?

Olu is very intelligent, fanning the ember of knowledge further to wherever knowledge can be fetched, but you are in a ditch with your Yoruba/Japanise false cognate because you can do nothing with it, it ends in nairaland.

Olu has hope:



I've once gave you an equation to make something out of the false cognates you often share, but at the end you turn it on me for the reason best known to you.



This is from a reliable source and a framework for linguistics and its practitioners. Need I say more? Enigbon to l'enikan o gbon, oniyen gaan ni baba ogo. Agba ofifo lo maa ndun muhoromuhoro.

LMAO look at this fraud.
Why so angry when I do the exact same thing you do?

If Hebrew is ibẹru in Yoruba, according to you, why can't Raijin be Oraufe?
If "Addereth" is "Adire" why can't "Ie" be "Ile"?

If you have a problem with my Japanese connection then you should also have a problem with your Hebrew connection because we both follow no standard, neither do we utilize any methodology, so your nonsense cannot be better. @olu, metaphysical, when will you three provide your methodology? How do you arrive at these so called cognates? Since mine are false

Until then it's a free for all word match up

If you have any sense at all, you would use this to think about how what you are doing is nothing but historical distortion and a total disregard for linguistics
But you probably know already, desperation for nairaland fame sha ni

Chinny024:
So you are Nwa dibia?..
Repent and accept Christ before it's too late.....
Your God has ear but can never hear, wide open eyes that cannot see, mouth full of deceit which can never eat... Yet you are pouring food and drinks away in the form of sacrifices?

Left innocent one heart broken for having made the mistake of wrong decision to hunt her for life because of this nonentity you serve blindly?..

My people perish because of lack of knowledge....

Your christ is dead. Rotten and decayed

Go and seek knowledge of who you are. Europeans have done a good job to make you useless

LoJ:
I will always wonder about those supposed hardcore traditionalist living in Europe. You love your tradition so Much, but you abandon their place of origin. Keep deceiving yasef

Living in Europe means abandoning

To identify as a traditionalist already means he cannot abandon his place of origin

absoluteSuccess:
Arakunrin, lo ogbon inu re lati dahun awon ibeere ti o ti inu atako re jade wa.

You are a fraud, a fake entity without value system. kindly answer the allegations you raised with your first post, nobody is interested in your wit as at now. It add no knowledge nor insight to no one. Clear your view about what you claim with my first post before you start on another hypnotic course.

Olu is not my boy, he is an intelligent person keen enough to draw insight from his oriki. If you have one comparable to the one he shared, you might come to similar conclusion, but all you have is records of trash, everything your professor thought you is how to trash anything unlike your opinion.

I have given you the clue to the Odu Ifa as the family of Osun, if you can't tell what it is after this post, then you are but a serious pathological case, I'm waiting.

the irony

Keziehenry:
Having won the PDP primary, the next thing on the mind of people now is who his running mate will be. Will it be Wike, Peter Obi, Ngozi Okonjo Iweala or who? Kindly feel free to suggest the best running mate for the most Atikulated man for the job.
lalasticlala

. The only Igbo person worth VP is Ngozi Okonjo Iweala but incidentally she is SS
Otherwise it is only wise to pick a VP from the West

MayorofLagos:
Omo ibo, what did you get your degree in, what was your major? Your case is worse than shallow, you are empty! Have you heard the word "adire" before? Do you not think the "addereth" of the Hebrews and the "adire" of the Yorubas is same, particularly in the context of that screenshot article ? Allright, where did you go to school? It can't be anywhere in Yorubaland. Jeezus!!!

where you cannot find yourself
OK im empty but to be honest you are not even on the table. Nairaland reinventive historians are your sources for everything you know about your people. There is nothing you know that didn't come from these two guys you don't even know, but you think you are a proper Yoruba man? Or boy in fact. Acting "Yoruba defender" on an online forum does not make you into a better Yoruba than someone else, so cut that omo ibo nonsense, it only shows how stupid you are.
Yoruba defender that doesn't know Yoruba history

Ponder on this

Japanese - Ie, otsuki, oka, kodomo
Yoruba - Ile, osupa, oke, omo
English - house, moon, mountain, child

Anybody can match up words, it's not a special skill so that addereth nonsense is just what it is, nonsense
Reason why macof has asked for etymology of words to decipher them

MayorofLagos:
Even those forebearers went against tradition before them to create a new thinking. Their own theories are not immune from new rules, understanding and creative inputs. By the way what do you call distortions? Proposing strong and convincing theories on Yoruba migration is a distortion? You must not be serious.

If this post does not convince one of how lost this bunch are, nothing will

1. Going against carefully laid out outlines of traditional knowledge
2. Creating (reinventing) history out of pure imagination (new thinking)
3. Creative inputs, not evidence based inputs


Strong and convincing theories only to a colonized mind that is useless to her people

It beats me how there is so much disgust for your African origin, black man wants to be anything but african. Sad indeed

Olu317:
bien vas périr. parce que t'es non pertinent.....


Assignment for you a, ‘fou à lier '

Nobody speaks French here, why not speak Hebrew for us
You are Hebrew right?

Olu317:
Just imagine this crap up? I won't stoop low as Omo Ibo like you(olachi)who can't differentiate between myth and facts.... . If I can make these things up, then, dread me like your ancestors dreaded my ancestors.


I thank God, because I have something great in the offing, what exactly is your purpose in life ? . Funny enough, you and many household shall shamelessly purchase it because you want to know what you have never come across in your lifetime.So wait for it.

A retard is known by his/her action but unfortunately, this is a faceless forum. So, say I, that a ‘retard grandeur' is known by his or her senseless post sent online.

Interested in learning ? So as to get a grip. Read the this book as a beginner :


1. HEBREW LIFE AND CUSTOM.

while thousands of students annually are learning Yoruba history and how Yoruba is a native African civilization
It is one unemployed guy who didn't pass jamb that wants to tell professors of history and anthropology that they are wrong

If this things you post here are what you have in the book, even your dunce friends here won't buy it

Aaronsrod:
Where is Jesus in all of this??

We must cast aside ancestors and warship him.

Most Nigerians already cast their ancestors away and worship Jesus
Sad but that's the reality

Olu317:
You try to gain knowledge from me through cunningly method ? Anyway,I will mention ten (10) similarities peculiar to Yoruba and Hebrew through your question for the deep thinkers and well read to see , the reason, ‘The Yoruba' of today were the founding generation of ancient Hebrew, which have been studied and believed by Western researchers,even if they kept
mute over it.

Can you not see how these people reference Yoruba kings among dark skin Race? Below are some of the researched reasons .



1. The Yoruba are an offspring
of the group that once
resided in ‘Oorú'

The Hebrew ancestors once
lived in the land of ‘or',according
Archeological research through
Cuneiform, hieroglyphs, Assyrian tablets etc and biblical reference.


2. The Yoruba is a multiracial group
that fused as one because of
conscription through intermarriages
and acceptance of Yoruba Religion
(IFA).

The Hebrew is multiracial group
that fused as one because of
conscription through intermarriages
and acceptance of Hebrew religion
that begun through (EPHOD).


3. ‘PROSTRATE',is enshrined inYoruba
culture because it is the epitome of
respect for grandfather,grandmother,
father,older ones by younger etc.
(Kow tow in Chinese bending isn't
prostration)

The Hebrew acknowledged prostration
as a form of respect.Take for instance,
Judah,‘PROSTRATED' before his
grandfather Isaac, when he was
introduced by Israel (his own father)
Book of Jubilees 31:28

4. Highest Multiple ‘Twin birth' in the world
is found among the Yoruba people only.

The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
that had the Highest Multiple Twin Birth
in the ancient times,according to the the,
white-Caucasian Historians.

5.The Yoruba, ‘élé' and ,èlè are prefix to the name
of Almighty God . Examples, Élédáà,
Èlèdùmáàrè.

The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
that used ‘Èl', to acknowledge their God

6. The Yoruba almighty Èlèdúùmàrè history
is eternal , who has no wife or rival because Èlèdúùmàrè is not seen as a man

The Ancient Hebrew ‘El' is eternal and has
no wife nor rival because the belief is that
God is never seen as a man.

7. The Yoruba tradition acknowledge even
both patrilineal and matrilineal side of the
family.

The Ancient Hebrew acknowledged both
patrilineal and matrilineal side of the family

8. The Yoruba word, ‘Édá' convey deeper
meaning for human because, it is heavily
enshrined in ORI CONCEPT. And this
word is scarcely used for humans. Instead
yoruba often use èníyán for humans.

The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
referred as EDA in the ancient times.

9. The Yoruba word, ‘Àdirè' is a term
use for a woven cloth with pattern.


The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
that had a woven cloth called Àderéth'

10. The Yoruba were the only group
that refers to the light of day/sunlight
as,‘Orún'.

The Ancient Hebrew were the only group
that referred to Sunlight as, ‘ Or'.





This is just a tip of the iceberg because, I have
more proof than these. Believe me, you are on
a wrong chase.

He calls this gibberish knowledge

Have you forgotten how Yoruba have more in common with Japanese and Anglo-Saxons than Hebrew? You want me to show you again and expose your fraud one more time?

Only you by yourself came up with this, no evidence no source, picking things out of context without understanding
That's what you get when your parents didn't struggle well for you, you resort to fraud last last
But this hustle just miss road

Olu317:
Sir, take it easy oooo. Omo kekere ni nsè won.

Shut up you fraud

Ọmọ kékeré wo? You simply lack any form of education, either academic or traditional claiming to be some yoruba guru with your inventive history

MayorofLagos:
I am not done talking, I did not want to mix appreciation for a man of honor with spits and venoms I intend to shoot in the direction of men who profess to be illuminated by classroom knowledge but are deficient on native intelligence and enlightenement....macof and this omo ibo oluochi, and all others in their bandwagon. This post is for them.

First I must visit on Olu's complain about those throwing Isese around on public forum. There is a good reason Yoruba myth and oral history, as well Odu Ifa is encrypted. It is because of people like these gangsters of barawos. Couple of years ago JayZ, the American rapper was throwing around some finger gesturing supposed to symbolize codes for initiates into Illuminati. Like wildfire, it spread around the universe and we started seeing all kind of merchandise depicting these gestures and the word "illuminati" became a household name....even on the lips of baboons. Baboon sef began to swag like a illuminati. Only if people knew.... First, Jayz will never ever be admitted into the Inner Temple. He does not possess the discipline required to be an errand boy of the Temple, much more to become a member in the cult. But to his fans, he is an illuminati already. This is how I see these Isese wannabes. Even that Omo ibo called olaochi says he is an initiate of Isese. Can you imagine? There must be two Iseses....the one for ogberis, which is the one these creeps belong to. I am yet to see a true Oluwo getting distracted and becoming self-conscious to throw his weight in Iledi around on the internet. Bloody creeps! I seriously suspect that macof is not Yoruba, a child born into Yorubaland and grew into the culture of Ife. Many people think Dele Momodu is Yoruba because of his adept knowledge of the language and the culture. I know for fact Oluochi is Ibo.

macof, you still owe me a scold, let me catch you offguard....

.
Show me where I said I'm initiated to Iṣẹṣe

And i am more Yoruba than your father

Which native intelligence do you have? it's native intelligence that told you Yoruba are Hebrews?
All this criminals dragging Yoruba to the mud

Olu317:
Omo IFA, why whine me? This area is supposedly known to you. Yoruba elders and their folklore have knowledge of Ijimere being half human, half inhuman because one of the myth is said to have been as a result of disobedience to Orunmila before it changed to half human and monkey like in nature .... Were the yoruba ancestors like the regular Africans? These people had scientific knowledge of evolution. Trust me, Yoruba were the chosen of God.

So how does Yoruba being chosen of God make Yoruba Hebrew

You see you are a criminal trying to destroy Yoruba integrity with religious nonsense
No real Yoruba will worship foreigners (jews) like this

CalciumB3:
Yoruba
Ife bronze casting of
Oduduwa, dated around 12th century, in the British Museum.
Historically the Yoruba people have been the dominant group on the west bank of the Niger . Their nearest linguistic relatives are the Igala who live on the opposite side of the Niger's divergence from the Benue , and from whom they are believed to have split about 2,000 years ago. The Yoruba were organized in mostly
patrilineal groups that occupied village communities and subsisted on agriculture. From approximately the 8th century, adjacent village compounds called ile coalesced into numerous territorial city-states in which clan loyalties became subordinate to dynastic chieftains. Urbanization was accompanied by high levels of artistic achievement, particularly in terracotta and ivory sculpture and in the sophisticated metal casting produced at Ife .
The Yoruba paid tribute to a pantheon composed of an impersonal Supreme Deity,
Olorun . The Olorun is now called God in the Yoruba language. There are 400 lesser deities who perform various tasks. According to the Yoruba, Oduduwa is regarded as both the creator of the earth and the ancestor of the Yoruba kings. According to one of the various myths about him, he founded Ife and dispatched his sons and daughters to establish similar kingdoms in other parts of what is today known as Yorubaland . The
Yorubaland now consists of different tribes from different states which are located in the Southwestern part of the
country , states like Oyo State , Ondo State , Ekiti State , Ogun State , among others.

That is simply what every sane person knows and accepts due to all available evidence

Africans are more linked than most Africans due to hatred for their neighbors or attachments to foreign religions think

absoluteSuccess:
The hopeless fool above ^^^ always strive hard to make sure people don't see my moniker in the homepage at culture section, what a world to live in for this diabolic soul. I made a post, he rush in to cover the track with nothing sensible to say than gibberish as usual.

Imagine the direction the fool is gone again? Not secure with what he's seeing here, he wants to find out more so he can be sure I'm not getting secret admirers with what I'm posting. Look at how a human being is using his brain, not useful to its own intellectual defense but as demonic monitoring spirit. My post will get you the hypertension that will kill you

You have the opportunity to tell a story, but alas, you do not have the brain for it. I have become your story on nairaland. I've made more than half a million in sales back in the years on this page from fohow, but you didn't hear anything about it because I'm very forthright and honest. I never took anyone's money bro.

People send 120,000, 60,000, 40,000, 20,000, 10,000 and inumerable 12,000 naira into my account for one product or the other. You never hear about it because I'm not a scammer. If I have scammed anyone, they would have come back here and blow the whistle. Thank God for this site and my simple blogger page, i never beg from you na

I know your campaign of calumny is targeting my business or anything about me here, but I have left hustling online to building a brand offline, hence I don't jostle for frontpage as I used to do. Its a good site to do business, but you can have it, I no longer update my blog with this account, can't even remember the password, so you are punishing yourself trying to pull a smear campaign.

Use all your money to buy common sense. You have everything as you claim, it gives you joy over others whom you are not feeding, thats "fools' paradise", now here you are again still very insecure about my DM. Guy, you lack knowledge, whatever you have, without without internal locus standi, it is nothing. It has made me the object of your obsession. transgay, guy I'm married with kids.

Devil, be gone.

With every post and your desperation for admirers and people seeing your post on the homepage, you expose yourself as really after nairaland fame, so you can defraud people
This is the way you want to hustle poverty is not good rárá

absoluteSuccess:
They do not have any history in their coffer, it’s all lies they can tell and in order not to be called out, they don't share any tradition at all. So their policy is simple, silence cannot be misquoted. But as for you brave enough to tell a story, they will subject your details to the hardest process that the fragile fact you have will break asunder.

Since they don't engage in educated discourse but mockery, bullying, trolling and cynicism, it would be difficult for an easy person to muster strength and engage them beyond two or more posts before [k'epo to tan ninu tank] at the end, and you began to dread them. I really salute your courage slogging it out with their champion, Ogbon nii segun.

They have been calling Oduduwa 'the usurper', imagine such fellows, aren't these really some descendants of one with character defect indeed, and a wine-babbler, mocking and laughing and jiving? A man will behave like his ancestors. All they know how to do best is transforming a piece of "misinformation" to an astounding, unbreakable tradition that never lead to any other tradition in Yoruba. Such is an adagun, without proof.

They have stood against you having link with Ife even if in the remotest past, yet the same folks claim all Yoruba came from Ile Ife, is that not double standard enough? Olu's remarkable ancestors did not come from Ife, but other Yoruba people and as many as their kings were, does. Is that not a remarkable conclusion to ponder upon?

The tradition they were touting here is that of Orunmila, who was referred to as 'Edu' in a passage of Ifa, of whom it is said, "Ifa o mu sekete ifa o niye, baba gbagba oti kanri, iye Edu la!" While the verse claimed that Ifa took wine to boost his memory, this people find a way to transform this tradition and superimpose Obatala on it as 'archenemy' of Oduduwa. How so?

Obatala is not a contemporary of Oduduwa, his nature is not connected to migration, he was established as a sculpture (morimori) in the homeland of the ancient Yoruba, Orun. In fact, if these people are wise, they will respect the Yoruba tradition that says "Olobatala kii memu" and leave Obatala out of the drunk business, but they needed a story to tell, any storying would do.

Obatala is identical with Orisa-Nla or Osala, and of him is the saying, 'babami ala funfun gboo kanle' the adjective 'gbo' has become Igbo on nairaland, and it is the root of Igbo/Ugbo that we now have becoming a tradition on its own, meanwhile, gbo is the whiteness of the tunic of Obatala. So, Olugbo can blend in to Oba-gbo, cropping out the rest of the information for just 'gbo' and affixing anything you like.

You can see how our researchers are progressing, "cognate reformation" must be a course in historical departments in our universities. Now the point is, if this was what led to the rise of Oduduwa and the fall of Obatala, how come the Yoruba came to claim Oduduwa was their ancestor? there was a fight between Obatala and Oduduwa, then Yoruba claim Oduduwa was their progenitor because he won?

The Yoruba were not aware of this "reassignment of icons of Yoruba history". They were familiar with the tradition of mecca origin taught them in the school, the hamitic theory so to speak. If you are a researcher, no need improve on the "hamitic theory", let go of it and uncover a different name, but the fools want to eat their cake and have it by changing the narrative to fit their local content, in the name of being scholars.

folks, you are trained to do research, not to do 'join-join' work by synchronizing different anachronistic traditions and 'iya oba baba tan' kind of history together because it all (assumed to have) happened in the same realm, let your claim have a wider scope, reaching the exterior limits of the realms of knowledge, not an unsearchable gist that everyone must bow to because it comes from somewhere but nowhere in particular.

Come out with your claims, don't be wise by half.

this guy ehn, you just want to defraud people here sha

Next thing, you'll start charging those who send you privat messages to be misled with reinvented history

Obalufon:
i laugh mr sabi all.. wetin go deal with you is already close to you

You know you are shameless right? Outrightly lying that I insulted yorubas

I'm still waiting for that post

0balufonlll:
Olaochi is not an outsider. If anything, he protects the independence & originality of Yoruba history better. I mean, he thinks of Yoruba as a stand alone original civilization & not a group whose identity is to be found in Arab or Jew.

Thank God someone sees this

Its not just what I think, it's what every fact says, Yoruba is an original civilization owing nothing(including ancestry) to nobody

All this Hebrew nonsense is just comical