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It is a fraud. Anybody who knows how Yoruba threat ancient relics knows that there is nothing traditional about this queen of Sheba myth in Òkè - Ẹri

The old man is a fraud who collects money from people

fero007:
former rivers governor, Rotimi Amaechi

That is hw they said Uduaghan, name of former delta governor, is not an itsekiri name

Rotimi is not an Ikwere name it is Yoruba

You seem to think because an Ikwere name has a certain name that name must be Ikwere...

fero007:
Exactly! Since you can't say Rotimi makes ikwerres Yoruba, then you can't say amadi makes ikwerres Igbo

Rotimi is not an Ikwere name
Invalid argument

Ijaya123:
That's right. 1998, 20 years ago when France last hosted and won the World Cup, they had an all white players.
2018, 20 years later winning the World Cup again, the team is full of black players.

Who says climate change isn't real?

I'm sure Zidane and Henry are not considered white men

fero007:
I stay in Ph and i know for fact that generally Abia and other eastern Igbos dont understand ikwerre n ukwuani when dey speak, (they may only be able 2 pick out few words) anambra Igbo may not fully understand owerri Igbo, but they understand far more of it than ikwerre. If not tell the meaning of Rotimi in Igbo , or Ighoroya, Ovhunda, epirikom, mbene, ajah, otefe?

Most ikwerre people dress like the kalabaris, and dance like them.

You said ikwerre claim of non Igbo is oil politics, but dont know that an ikwerre man does something wrong Igbos are quick to refute"he's not Igbo o"

And most importantly, ikwerrres n ukwuanis themselves have said they are not Igbo, and I dont see why you outside a house, knows more about the house than those staying inside.

Rotimi is a Yoruba name... So now are we to say Ikwere are Yoruba because one man you know has a Yoruba name?

donstan18:
One thing we should know is that until a lady is married, she's still single and a packaged prostitute.

She might be seen as a retired one once she's married. The earlier we get this the better for us.

Even a wise and intelligent Nigerian lady will agree with me that they are packaged prostitute parading as girlfriend.

OP, you shouldn't have slapped her, she's not your wife, you don't own her, you assumed she must have dated so many men, but you didn't tell us how many ladies you've dated.

Once your girlfriend cheat or misbehave. Kindly break up or forgive.

Don't hit a woman who is not your wife because she cheated. Don't even hit a woman atall, even if she's your wife.

Your action didn't make you a man, learn to act less and think smart when provoked by a woman.

The moment two people have decided to spend the future together they are already man and wife
She was his wife before she messed up

Rossikki:
Stop being ridiculous. A calabash is not covered by another calabash in its default state as a calabash.

. That is Ìgba in Yoruba.

End of discussion

Afamed:
I am here to educate you and your likes. Seccession on paper does not work. Why suddenly are you taking about seccession?

over 5 years is suddenly

PHILipu1:
And he was in the opposition then.
Did ffk clamour for this when he was in the PDP government?

No he was already in PDP

And besides the Odùduwà republic agitation is not about ffk. It is about all yorubas who understand that Nigeria is a failed state that doesn't serve the interest of the Yoruba nation

Afamed:
Stop your deceit. Independent of Yoruba will not automatically translate Yoruba land to W.D neither the Yoruba will become Bill Gate or Mark Z over the night. Those clamouring for seccession in present day in Yoruba ;FFK are those who have been caged from furthering looting our national assets. Did you hear FFk saying anything about seccession why he was in Power over 16 in PDP?

. Yes ffk has been clamouring for Odùduwà republic for years even when PDP was in power

https://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/161006-goodbye-nigeria-welcome-oduduwa-republic-by-femi-fani-kayode.html

fero007:
If you understood the ikwerre, it depends on the dialect of the ikwerre. In PH, I know how many Igbos come for the first time and say they can't understand the ikwerre they hear. But apart from language ikwerre n ukwuani have other qualities that shows they different tribes.

And you're seriously bring Google's definition of ikwerre, same google will tell you isoko is urhobo, and efik is Ibibio.

I've noticed only those from the 3 major tribes will say ikwerre, ukwuani, ika is Igbo and itsekiris is Yoruba. Ikwerre themselves always hammer that they are not Igbo, and I've never heard an itsekiris saying he's a yoruboid person.

I STILL MAINTAIN! YOU CANT KNOW PEOPLE'S CULTURE BETTER THAN THE PEOPLE THEMSELVES

Stop confusing Nigerian politics for natural ethnic classification

Everybody doesn't have to bear the same name to be of the same ethnicity
Germans and Austrians are the same ethnicity but two different countries

Try to understand this

Rossikki:
If the calabash is representative of the earth how does that mean ''spherical''? Is a calabash a sphere? Nope. A calabash is EXACTLY what a flat earth covered by a dome, or firmament, looks like.

...........................[img]https://flatearthscienceandbible.files./2016/03/img_0039-6.jpg[/img]

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Fatherofdragons:
u dey mind am, that's why I ignored that ignorant post in the first place.

imagine afonja, onye ofe mmanu telling me the right spelling for my ethnic name? what a joke

All Yorubas are not as ignorant as that so do not generalize

I laughed when I read that too but the guy is known to post nonsense on this forum

We should be working towards peace and brotherhood not senseless war if words

fero007:
Efik speak Ibibio, does not make efik Ibibio
Isoko speak Urhobo, doesn't make isoko urhobo
Many northern tribes speak hausa language doesn't make them Hausa

and again, ikwerre dress more like ijaw(kalabari) than eastern Igbo, also eat more ijaw foods, and dance more like the tribes of rivers state

Efik and ibibio are one people ethnically

Ikwere are ethnically igbos

Itsekiri are ethnically Yoruba

selemempe:
this is a typical ikwere dressing...any difference with igbo?
So ikwere dont eat igbo food? Wow.

The problem is that u dont know the meaning of ethnicity and tribe.

Igbo is an ethnicity
While wawa igbo or ikwere is a tribe or otherwise called clan.

What is ethnicity?
The state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition.

Tribe?
a group of people, often of related families, who live together, sharing the same language, culture, and history

Ethnic group is larger and more national while tribes are smaller and more local. E.g the 12 tribes of isreal. Are they of different ethnic group? No.

In England, the man from london and the man from birmingham have different tribes but same ethnic group.

If things are the way its supposed to be...ikwere will be in a larger igbo nation..just as efik and ibibio will be the same nation.

The white men used our head.

. The guy lacks real understanding of ethnic identity and classification

scholes0:
They are not Yoruba Yoruba like that, but they are definitely cousins.

What does Yoruba Yoruba mean? Is there a standard?

YourNemesis:
They are Itsekiri names though..

Aghan in Itsekiri is Awan (Awon) in Yoruba.
Dudu is black in yoruboid. Okoro in Okorodudu is the Okoro of Edoid origin, so that probably came via their Benin or Urhobo neighbours, I think the binis say it means Prince. So ...... Dark prince or something.
Udu can mean anything.

Not everything will come out direct or look very obviously the same with MSY (Modern standar Yoruba)

I see. Thanks

Rossikki:
Precolonial African civilizations believed the earth was flat. That an iron dome covered it, and that outside the dome was water. Essentially, the earth was a domed habitat sitting at the bottom of a giant sea.

Incredibly, the modern-day Flat Earth Society envisions the earth in the exact same way. And they have copious amounts of evidence supporting their position. Bear in mind that there has never been a single genuine picture of the earth showed to us by NASA or any other space agency. All pics we have seen have been composite/computer generated images.

Were our ancestors right?

Intriguingly, the Genesis account of the earth's creation seems to be describing a sea-surrounded Flat Earth as well. It talks about "separating the waters from the waters", and refers to a "firmament" or dome, covering the earth.

bi osupa l'aye. The earth is like the moon. Igba la fin soju aye. Igba ntokasi aye. the calabash is a representation of the earth

Yoruba tradition is clear, the earth is spherical

this madness is gradually growing in yorubaland too. Some yorubas are now actively propagating the claim of hebrew ancestry

Rossikki:
Pretty sad how Yoruba religion is practiced more fervently in Brazil than in Yorubaland. Here, peole are even ashamed to be associated with it. Most consider it 'heathen'. The tragic effects of colonial rule.

It started before colonial rule. And Yorubas weren't the only ones to be colonized, the muslims didnt give up islam. There is a deeper problem than colonial rule

fero007:
I once lived in Warri for 15 years, in ajamimogha, I studied itsekiri people first hand. Like I said you can't know their culture better than them, Yoruba/itsekiri is like Bini/esan/afemai. Slight relationship, yes, but dat doesn't make them same tribe or esan a dialect of Bini(mind you the name edo is name of the state nt the name of a particular ethnic group)

If you lived in Warri then maybe you need to live in Ondo state too
So you can see the cultural similarities between Itsekiri and the coastal people of Ondo state

fero007:
Uduaghan!, former delta state governor, pure itsekiri man.

Itsekiri, dialect of Yoruba?

Bini royal family from Yoruba? wow, different remixes o

Abeg, make sure you talk to people from these tribes, and if possible stay around them to have better knowledge

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I'm not talking about his identity. It's the name.. It doesn't sound itsekiri that's why I ask you for the etymology

You obviously do not study much if you don't know Itsekiri is a Yoruba dialect and the bini royal family is from Ife

fero007:
for you to say uduaghan, okorodudu, is not itsekiri means you dont know itsekiri or delta for that matter.

Besides Itsekiri history states there are from Bini. An itsekiri person will never call self Yoruba, and just like Yoruba understand itsekiri little, dats how urhobo understand itsekiri little, itsekiri even dress like urhobo/ijaw, and eat ur urhobo food, but dat doesnt make them urhobo

I maintain those aren't itsekiri names.. You can break them down etymologically and prove how they are itsekiri names... Still doesn't change the fact that itsekiri is a Yoruba dialect

Only the royal family are from Bini.. And even the royal family of bini are from yorubaland

The general common people of itsekiriland are majorly from Ilaje and Ijebu areas

fero007:
listen to omawumi - megbele, n tell me if it sounds like Yoruba, or if a Yoruba can understand the language.

yorubas dont eat starch n banga/ohwo, or ukodo like itsekiris

itsekiris dress very different from Yoruba

N yorubas dont answer names like uduaghan, okorodudu, ugboroke, origho

. Yes I can understand a little.
Itsekiri is a Yoruba dialect similar to Ìjẹ̀bú and ilaje dialects

Yorubas eat different things and dress differently. Ekiti and Ondo eat Pounded Yam while Oyo and Ẹ̀gbá eat Àmàlà

Uduaghan, Okorodudu are not itsekiri names

fero007:
U put tsekiri land under Yoruba map?

. Do itsekiri not speak Yoruba Language?

Before opening the thread I knew it must be this emir of Ìwọ.

Enemy of the Yoruba nation

harrystories:
What will I lean from them? That he was a prince of Mecca. It was supposedly the persecution of the Muslim elite of the city that caused him and his fellow animists to leave Arabia. Or that he was a migrant from Egypt.

Believe or not, Oduduwa was in fact a prince of the royal family of Benin kingdom. He left Benin due to a struggle over the royal succession. It is supposedly due to this fact that a descendant of his was subsequently allowed to return and found the dynasty that rules the kingdom of Benin to this day.

You need to really study Yoruba history through reliable sources not hearsay or from the internet

Go to ìfẹ, meet elders.. They will tell you where Odùduwà is from.. It's not far from Ifẹ̀ you can go there the same day

All that benin stuff is a lie and benin elders know it

harrystories:
Then, I must say you knows nothing about the history of Oduduwa and his people.

Neither do you. Lies will not help you. Go to ìfẹ and learn from Odùduwà custodians themselves