₦airaland Forum

I wouldn't joke with any seriously agitated group. In fact I would take the threat by this group more seriously than even that of MEND. These guys are from a battle tested region. And I'm loving their attempt to distance from the core North and ally with southern interests.
Shaka Zulu said that if a leopard is offered wings, he would be a fool to reject them.
So, I would take 'Akhwat Akwop' wings if they are serious.
BTW I see the usual cowardly southern groups shittting their pants and calling them names instead of addressing their concerns.
These southern groups are known for their cowardice and nincompoopery. 

Posted by: aribisala0

i happen to know that area quite well so i would like to learn something new today.
i repeat. to the best of my knowledge ogun state is entirely above(to the north of ) lagos state.
if you have any facts let us have them i.e. name ONE single village in ogun state that is on the coast of the atlantic

even abigi the waterside town is an inland lagoon area not on the atlantic and is not traversed when travelling to lagos from ondo state

What about Ajumo and Olokata towns (villages if you like), the are both by the coast.
According to Google map, Ogun state definitely has a coastline albeit not as big as Ondo's.

[size=16pt]And brothers, please ignore all the jealous goats milling around here. [/size]

Posted by: nusdog

There's nothing wrong in an Igbo building just ONE house in the zone where he lives. It's better than and more dignifying than paying rent.

But if you know what you are doing, you can build to sell off and build bigger properties in the SE.

I intend erecting shopping malls in Aba and Enugu sometime in the future.

If the house is small, then it would be easy to sell off or dispose of it.
Most of the time though, folks forget our past and start building profusely.

One or two bedroom bungalow or shack may do outside Igboland.
Build that mansion in the East.

I rest my case.

Umunne m, if each state in SE zone designs and implements at least one project similar to this Anam New City, I boldly state that Ndi be anyi ga eji ngenge oso wee lachigha na ala Igbo. 

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BTW does anyone know the stage of the New Anam City project?

So, @Ndigbo, it is better you build that house in Onitsha, or Owerri or any of the SE cities, because you would be in poll position when the boom begins.

Why am I even giving y'all all these business intelligence sef? hehe.

Anyway, I do so in the spirit of "onye aghana nwanne ya".

When it comes to the bigger picture about what needs to happen to help Ndigbo focus more on SE zone, the SE governors can make a huge impact.

This is the area where I wish that there is a Soludo in one of the governors seats in SE.
He is a man with that type of vision.

Peter Obi is also capable of such vision, but he would be too conservative with the design. We need a MEGA business and economic development agenda for SE zone.
Only then can our folks (both politically literate and otherwise) return en masse.

BTW, I ain't buying no damn land anywhere outside Igboland.
Ain't happening.

So, if you own a house in the SE, it makes it easy to control more money than you ordinarily would, because Ndigbo always return home for Christmas. That is an opportunity to meet guys based outside.
I'm giving some of you the inside scoop of how we do it.

Now, go and make hay!

@topic,
I suspect that when Igbo people open their eyes to the foolishness of building outside Igboland, a huge transformation will happen in Nigeria. It may not benefit others, but hey, everyman to himself is an old human philosophy.

, . And the fastest way to become an efulefu in Nnewi is not to build a house at home.
No matter how much you have outside, nobody takes you serious in village meetings.

Posted by: Abagworo

The reason why the poster wrote this is because Nigerians are divided along a non-existent tribal line which they should try and erase.If tribalism is erased,then what Igbos are and have been doing is a welcome example for all Nigerians.

In reality I however doubt if that tribal line can be erased.The other ethnic groups invest only in their homeland and only involve themselves in moneymaking commercial or political ventures outside their region.Most Yoruba or Hausas who invested elsewhere are mainly politicians whose investment is aimed at embezzlement.The only other ethnic groups apart from Igbos who invest elsewhere are Urhobo,Edo,Ijaw and Efik/Ibibio.But Igbos still invest outside more than these others.

I can consider Igbos as being unwise because majority of us invest all the money we get at that same place we make the money even when properties are more viable in our village.An Igbo man can build a duplex in Schendam when he is from Enugu instead of just building a shop and investing the proceeds in Enugu.[/b]Me and my Yoruba friend even noticed this in Port-Harcourt.A wealthy Yorubaman in Port-Harcourt only builds one house in PH and sells it off once the commercial value rises but an Igbo man of equal wealth will own 10 houses in Lagos and will still be buying more instead of selling off and making profit or take the money elsewhere.I do not think Igbos invest there because they are more commercially viable because[b] I have seen Igbos build houses in a place called Ifewara in Osun State where house rent is 1000 Naira per month.

I also think that "political illiteracy" is one of Igbo mans biggest problems. I say this because an average Igboman in ranking factors that determine where he puts his money, political factors rank least. As always every other factor takes priority. I'll give you an example of one of my cousins who built a mansion in the village (nnewi), but rents in Lagos. He used to always lament to me that he "wasted money" building the house. According to him, if he had built that house in Lagos, he would be raking in money.
Over the past few years though, he has recanted and now is overjoyed by his decision to build in SE because he frequents home these days and is well respected at home. Because he built that house, business men (some of who do business in other parts of the Nigeria and the world) always trust him with money and invest in his business, because every Christman holiday most of them return home, and you are weighed according to the type of a house yu built in the village. In essence, the village is the business networking base!

I am truly beginning to think that "Ijaw" may have migrated into the coastal regions of Nigeria from Ghana or somewhere around there; and that migration coincided with the coming of the first Portuguese explorers and merchants.

I say this because Ijaw is the only group I know in Niger delta with the highest number of people with "white" names.
It also explains why they always found it easy to intermarry with any tribe in the coast, ranging from Igbo all the way to Yoruba areas. A people with a strong sense of "own culture and traditions" won't be so brazen in marriage with/into other tribes.
So, in a sense, they feel no sense of "loss" to the "other tribes", afterall there is no strong "own" tribe among them.

Even if there were some local "Ijaws" before the advent of the white man in the delta, they must have been rather small.
The Europeans must have come with some educated and exposed "Ijaw groups" from their earlier encounters with groups in "Gold Coast" (today's Ghana), afterall slave trade was a later trade than Gold and Ivory trading. They may have landed the shores of the delta where these "European Ijaws" fused with "Local Ijaws", hence the varied differences in their language.

Just my educated guess.   

Let the debate continue.

Frankly I really agree with ndu_chuks (his motives not withstanding), cos only Ndigbo do this among the majority tribes.
Hausa don't do it, neither do Yoruba.
So, it makes no sense at all for Ndigbo to keep cheating themselves by developing other zones instead of their own.
If necessary, the business men and investors should approach our governors for land and support.

Posted by: ndu_chucks

@Onlytruth, This statement from you "I admit you are spot on that at least "10%" Igbo business should be located in SE.
If I had my way, I would say at least 50% should be located in SE" is good enough for me. The rest of your post is noise. For the said noise I say the following to you:  Okwute Palestinians piafuka gi blokos. olodo

hehe. You haven't answered my question though:

What is pursuing you this time?
No be "One Nigeria" again?
Shouldn't you be reining in your murdering brothers up North first?  
Are you prepared to let us go now?  

Your theory only works if you throw in the option of eventual secession for us.
We don't want to leave business opportunities behind and still get denied the opportunity to create new ones in the East, which secession would allow us to do properly. You want to corner that oil money being allocated to North all for yourselves alone. You think say we no know say ya population na lie? Our being in your backward helps us to get some of our money back. But if we secede, you can have ya backyard all to yourselves.  
Ka geni?

ndu_chucks,

Just when I think you are dumb and clueless, you pull another trick out of your goatskin hat.
Since you understand Igbo very well, here is one of our proverbs:

Igbo si na awo adighi agba oso ehihie na nkiti! (the toad does not jump around in midday for no apparent reasons)  

So, "nwanne m", what is chasing you this time?  

I admit you are spot on that at least "10%" Igbo business should be located in SE.
If I had my way, I would say at least 50% should be located in SE.
But this call coming from you is what Ndigbo term "dum tufuo, dum choo" (help me lose my stuff in the first place, and then turn around to pretend that you are helping me to find it   ).
If I want to be less charitable, I'd say that what you are doing is tantamount to soro ndi mmuo gbuo na abali, ma sokwa ndi mmadu kwaa na ututu (you join evil spirits to kill in the middle of the night, but also join humans in the morning to mourn).

Anyway, enough of proverbs.

Your advice is taken. . . . but with a huge pinch of salt.

Posted by: alj_harem

while some are trying to form an homogeneous united Nigeria

some ideeiot are still trying to divide it and causing trouble

I have come to the conclusion that the most peace loving people in Nigeria are the hausa, yoruba, igbo, kanuri and the bini people.

Nigeria was created for Minorities to be absorbed and colonised and not the other way around.

Insha Allah, by the time we Nigerians reach 2100 there will only be 3-5 cultures left in Nigeria

not 250 ethnic groups. The more Homogeneous Nigeria is the faster we can move forward.

hehe! So we are down to "you have to squeeze the other guy before the other guy squeezes you".
Classic.
May be best squeezer win. 

@LogicPower

Another beautiful examples are Mozambique and Zambia
Mozambique has the longest coast in South Eastern Africa, while Zambia is completely landlocked.

Zambia is richer by half.

So, what matters is what people are doing inside the country to grow the economy, not all these nature endowed stuff.
Some Nigerian journalists who returned from Mozambique stated that they have never seen a worse country.
One said he was happy to see a country that Nigeria is better than, hehe!

. . And BTW Somalia is also ethnically homogeneous. 

. . .As for education, the North can always catch up if they see that they have no choice.
I believe they have been spoilt by current Nigerian system, whereby a hardly educated Northerner is made the overall boss in an institution propped up by educated Southerners .

Posted by: LogicPower

Onlytruth: "Minus SE and parts of SS; SW would not be economically better than the North believe me."

I find it very, very difficult to believe this, simple because of the three obvious advantages I think the SW has over the North: access to the sea, much higher level of educational advancement and ethnic homogeneity.

The two bolded points are not too important, believe me.
If you doubt me, take a look at Somalia, and compare it to Chad.
Somalia has the longest coast in East Africa; while Chad is completely landlocked.
Chad is more than double richer (Per capita income: $1,600 (2010 est.); Somalia (Per capita income: $600 (2010 est.)

Northern Nigeria is rich in agriculture and so many minerals. If they get a fair parting share of offshore oil proceeds, they would be hard to beat economically FAR INTO THE FUTURE. Quote me on that.

Posted by: queenogech

@ evil brain: your user's name justifies your personality; @ blink182: secrecy of information can never be absolute, after-all some people are in charge at the top; @ obiagu1: thanks jare; @ arsenal fc: i ddnt say we re breaking up, i only told u d situation of things. fool!

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Don't mind that goat.

Posted by: Ileke-IdI

My friend, I'm from Ekiti. You cannot charm me. 
Oya address my post

What do you want me to address?
If I suspect it would give you heart attack, I will lie. hehe!  
Remember what I told you. 

Next thing the governor should do is map out new industrial and commercial zone to the south of Onitsha.
We need to grow the economy by attracting big business.
The area is close to Asaba (Airport).

Good job Obi.
No money wastage please.
Key word should remain "sustainability".

Posted by: Ileke-IdI

Growing healthy. We thank God we thank God.

Nice! I thank God too. Pls keep healthy.

Posted by: lagcity

I think Biafra would not have interclan clashes and things like that but development and a fighting spirit doesn't guarantee development, it is just not good enough and it is not a given. my people say that you can know if a child will be great by watching him/her grow. what is the SE doing presently that guarantees this glorious new country that you talk of? is it not the same ppl who will occupy the new country?

Enyimba is a great example of how leadership makes all the difference. If you don't have leadership, God help you. the most resource-poor country in the world can be very developed with great leadership.

SE is doing well, believe me. Infact the only state that is batting below capacity now is Abia state.
In a few years time, Enugu, Anambra, Imo, Ebonyi, Rivers and Akwa Ibom state would boom to inexplicable standards.
Just watch.  
Years of military rule dealt with us seriously.  

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BTW how is baby?