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PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 5:37am On Nov 15, 2010
If every member of the executives must speak to the press, then the post of President General and all other posts should be expunged from the Ohanaeze constitution because even ordinary folks like myself will grant press statements and say whatever I want.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 5:33am On Nov 15, 2010
mikeansy:
Granting press statements protesting failure to follow the rules are what these Ohaneze executives protesting are clearly doing!!!!

The last time I checked The Treasurer, assistant legal adviser, Vice President of Ohanaze have all commented on Uwechue's action in the negative. Even a traditional ruler from Imo State meant to be a member of Imeobi also criticised Uwechue's attitude.
These protest can not be "one man making noise" because I have already counted 4.

There are also mighty personalities in the Igbo political intelligentia who clearly do not agree with Uwechue which I have mentioned to you in the past.

If there is anyone pulling the House down here it is Uwechue because whatever agenda he is chasing, it is clealy not universally endorsed by Ndigbo.
Yuo still did not answer my question:

[size=14pt]If Ohanaeze followed the laid down procedure to embark on an exercise, what stops an unsatisfied INDIVIDUAL member of the executives from granting press statements to the effect that "Ohanaeze constitution was not followed"?[/size] huh huh huh

Answer : NOTHING.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 5:31am On Nov 15, 2010
EzeUche0:
Are we Igbos at war with ourselves?

It would seem that we are running around with no direction.  angry
We have a direction. At least majority of us do. Dissent has been part of us for too long. It is time to say Ekwem
Yes we can! (speak with one voice).  cool cool
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 5:25am On Nov 15, 2010
mikeansy:
Ever heard of the expression between the devil and the deep blue sea? Go do more research about our history you will realise why in a fight between the Hausas and the Ijaws the Igbos have no friend but to stand for the truth.

If you say you are supporting Jonathan because he is the most brilliant and most charismatic choice in the race then fair enough. But if you are supporting Jonathan based on sentiments then unfortunately you are being smart by half.
Your views here is rather too simplistic.
Jonathan wrote a letter to Ndigbo THREE YEARS ago when he was only a running mate to Yar adua.
It doesn't take a rocket scientist to read where his heart is and what his intentions are.

In Nigerian politics, we have stood for truth always and will always stand for truth.
One of that truth is that Igboland is the most neglected in Nigeria. Even VP candidate Jonathan knew it three years ago.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 5:20am On Nov 15, 2010
mikeansy:
Go get some lectures from Andrew Uweh on how Ohaneze should make its decisions based on the rules as written in the Ohaneze constitution.

Thats if he is willing to be honest with you.

What you enumerated above are certainly inconsistent with the modus operandi of the organisation.
Look, we've heard about this Ohanaeze constitution modus operandi for doing things SEVERAL TIMES.

The question I want ask you if this: If Ohanaeze followed the laid down procedure to embark on an exercise, what stops an unsatisfied INDIVIDUAL member of the executives from granting press statements to the effect that "Ohanaeze constitution was not followed"?  huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh

Meanwhile it is really one man making noise, trying to pull down the house because he did not get his way.
It is ridiculous frankly. undecided

Uwechue has tried his best to make Ndigbo speak with one voice. Those who appreciate that effort will always support him.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 5:09am On Nov 15, 2010
I shall also add that this endorsement will win us our deserved respect from the north. They will now see that we are not fools and theirs for the picking. We have our own agenda, like them.

Next time they start playing games in Nigeria, they will look at us with new lenses.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 5:05am On Nov 15, 2010
mikeansy:
^^^^^^^^

I think I have had this debate enough with you and it can not get any more ridiculous than trying to argue between "Legal Adviser" and "Assistant Legal Adviser" when clearly the bone of contention is that executive members of Ohaneze Ndigbo were not in the know of what Uwechue was doing.

Now you want to tell us the office of VP of Ohaneze should not exists or does not matter just because everyone else is not too interested in following Uwechue into his political wilderness.

All I can say is if Uwechue is looking for an organisation where he can run like a military cantonement then he is in the wrong organisation.  A man can not go into his bedroom, reach some ridiculous political deals with his dodgy allies and try to come out in the light of day to impose it upon a people like "Ndigbo". Even Ojukwu will tell you that that usually does not work.

Have a good time but very soon Uwechue will be reminded what his office is all about.
You did not address the core weakness I identified in your position which is that Ohanaeze is operating an executive style leadership, which means that only the top executives make policy statements on behalf of the organization.
There is an executive board which don't always agree on issues, but majority of that executive make the decision. In the event of a stalemate, the top executives make policy statements. Their assistants are mute until elevated to top positions. Simple.
Sambo cannot go to the UN and tell them that Jonathan's statement is personal. He will be fired. Sambo cannot speak for Nigeria while Jonathan is still in office. Insubordination should be fought against in Igboland with the same zeal we are fighting rabid individualism. When everybody is speaking NOBODY IS SPEAKING.

All these assistants should shut up or resign.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 4:52am On Nov 15, 2010
And if Jonathan loses the PDP primaries to a northerner, then so be it. cool cool

But something tells me that Ndigbo made the smartest move with this endorsement. We win heads or tails!
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 4:50am On Nov 15, 2010
And any sane Igbo should reject this poison chalice of Igbo unbridled individualism. Even the republican party in the US is known for unity of purpose. I wonder why people are proud of things that make them irrelevant in Nigeria.

I DON'T TRUST A NORTHERNER to make Ndigbo relevant in Nigeria more than I can trust a neighbor. Simply no way!

They've had 40 years to do that and failed to do so.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 4:43am On Nov 15, 2010
mikeansy:
Ohaneze legal adviser said the same thing. Onlytruth and Andrew Uweh told us they are fringe members.

Now tell me how fringe the VP of Ohaneze can be?

This kind of illegality can not stand in Igboland. I trust my people.

Elechi asked a vital question above, what is Ohaneze doing endorsing a candidate that is yet to be chosen by his own party?

I am of the view that Ohaneze should not endorse anybody. Whoever gets elected they should pledge to work with them after May 29 2011. That is what a responsibile socio-cultural organisation should do know that there will be clearly members of Ohaneze with different political affiliations.

Uwechue must be made to step down for throwing the integrity of Ohaneze Ndigbo to the dogs. We don't do fall-in-line politics in the East. Uwechue can go and enjoy the millions given to him by Jonathan. But his agenda will certainly fail.
C'mon now Mike!  undecided undecided undecided

It is dishonorable to twist facts just to score point.

It was the ASSISTANT legal adviser (which cannot usurp the position of the LEGAL ADVISER).

In the same vein, there is only ONE Ohanaeze president general. His vice (assistant) is mute until he the president is replaced by his deputy, if ever.

I don't know why people are getting so worked up about this endorsement when they have nothing better to offer.

Unbridled individualism is Igbo man's biggest enemy.

All these assistant this and assistant that should be removed immediately. They are challenging the authority of their bosses.

Imagine Sambo saying that Jonathan is on his own for speaking on behalf of Nigeria. Quite ridiculous.  undecided
PoliticsRe: Igbo Extraction And Leadership Problem by Onlytruth(m): 8:59pm On Nov 14, 2010
ezeagu:
You're now giving Igbo people advise? huh
lol. grin He should take his advise to Abagworo who thinks his vote will count in isolation. cool
PoliticsRe: Kidnapping, Not Igbo Culture – Ohazulike by Onlytruth(m): 8:56pm On Nov 14, 2010
And since when did Igbo kingship start being created by registration at the corporate affairs commission. I thought Igbo ezes are only established by community and culminating in assignment of ofo.
Nonsense! angry
PoliticsRe: Kidnapping, Not Igbo Culture – Ohazulike by Onlytruth(m): 8:52pm On Nov 14, 2010
This Ohazulike guy should stop insulting Ndigbo.
Countless times, the Igbo council of chiefs and Ohanaeze Ndigbo have stated that there is NO EZE NDI IGBO IN DIASPORA. That is a scam perpetrated by few renegades and rogue elements trying to impose 'ezeship" on diaspora Igbo. Every Igbo in diaspora comes from a town in Igboland with an Eze.

Well Ndigbo say: Okpubere onwe ya okpu eze, o g'eji kwa aka ya kpupu ya" -he who puts a crown on himself solo will one day remove the crown himself.  cool

These are thieves trying to destabilize Igbo leadership, follower-ship and consensus building.  

Host communities have been warned about them in the past.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 6:55pm On Nov 14, 2010
abagoro:
At least I have travelled round Igboland and I can understand all Igbo dialects but you can't.You need to travel round and understand how diverse we are and also realize that our only way of achieving unity in diversity is not by imposing the view of a few on the entire Igbo nation.What this will lead to is further implosion of Igboland.I hope you are aware that some powerful Igbo elders also support IBB.

Show me a link where Arewa made it clear they wanted a President to emerge from North.
And you need to understand that there is strength in unity. undecided

You also need to understand that there is no way Igboland is more diverse than the north. I don't need to travel all parts of Igboland and speak in all dialects to know that Igwe bu ike!

We are not more diverse than the NORTH, yet, they are pushing a common agenda. You are NOT even trying at all.

What I don't understand is why folks like you can't even try to be reasonable. Beats me.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 9:56am On Nov 14, 2010
abagoro:
In what way has Ohaneze fought against Igbo marginalisation which by the way should be their major point?

Name where Arewa has come out to tell all northerners to vote a candidate.They are majority and if they involve themselves in this politics,then their candidate is already the winner.That is one of the possible disadvantages of Ohaneze's endorsement.
In what way have YOU contributed to a united front for the advancement of Igbo or Eastern cause in Nigeria? huh huh
Is it by reminding us of our ignoble past of cacophony masquerading as "I can vote for any candidate I want" when in fact we were wasting our vote? Or is it by pulling down whatever effort Ohanaeze is making to negotiate a deal with a potential winner of the presidential race?  huh
AREWA has made it abundantly clear that they want a northern candidate. And by the way, we are NOT SO SURE that they are the majority in Nigeria. That is yet to be independently verified.

Before you challenge Ohanaeze to dare speak for you, what are you doing personally to ensure that we get our fair share in Nigeria? Is it by your  advocacy of "free for all voting" cacophony?

My friend, you are taking this your lame attempt at cosmopolitanism to ridiculous proportions.  undecided (that poll really pain you well well). na wa o!

As I've said for the umpteenth time, nobody is forcing you to vote for anybody. You can vote for "none of the above" sef!  cool

I thank God that majority of Igbo are not following your doom prognostications.  undecided undecided undecided
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 7:03am On Nov 14, 2010
SapeleGuy:
My guy, I think we have had enough exchanges on this section for you to realise I harbour no fear or bad feelings for anyone. We have a saying that  'when pikin dey play today e no dey remember say e fit cry tomorrow' A week is a long time in politics talk less of 2015?

We should consign this bastardised arrangement made by thieves to the dustbin and not compromise in our quest for true federalism.

All I am saying is that we should build houses on solid foundation. The current system is flawed. Do you honestly believe come 2015, Jonathan will say, I have done my 1 term, it is now the turn of Ndigbo?
Frankly, anyone who thinks that Ohanaeze is endorsing Jonathan just because of Igbo presidency in 2015 is missing the main aim of this endorsement. I confidently speculate that the endorsement goes farther than that. It is really about restructuring the federation for justice and fairness.

Ndigbo need a sixth or seventh state.
Ndigbo need a functioning international airport.
Ndigbo need a fair amount of federal presence in Igboland (roads, bridges, institutions etc)

All these would trump Igbo presidency any day. I'm not saying that Igbo presidency is not urgent. All I'm saying is that it will be easier to get it if we have enough clout in the federation.
We don't have that clout yet.
That is what Jonathan will hopefully give us in return for our support.

This is Onlytruth the realist speaking now. cool
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 6:53am On Nov 14, 2010
I think Beaf covered the logic and precedence of endorsements whether political or cultural or even racial in a democracy. I cannot remember any year that the congressional black caucus in the US congress ever apologized for championing the cause of black people. Majority of black organizations in the US support the democratic party.

In the Nigerian context, as we speak, Arewa is championing the cause of northern candidates.

Folks are just confusing issues. No one will force anyone to vote for any particular candidate.


This Ohanaeze endorsement is really the FIRST TIME. Other attempts to endorse in the past went up in smoke amidst senseless rebellion by folks who can't see beyond their personal votes.

So, as I said before, by all means vote for your choice candidate and ignore Ohanaeze. Just don't come here in the future to yap about marginalization.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 2:06am On Nov 14, 2010
I can understand Yoruba and northern apprehension because they feed off divisions in the east. By a midwesterner too?
Chineke me!  shocked shocked
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 2:04am On Nov 14, 2010
Frankly what baffles me most is that this Ohanaeze and Igbo support for Jonathan is causing sleepless nights in the west and north (and part of midwest undecided). This tells me that Ohanaeze is right.
Suddenly the same people who accuse Ndigbo of marginalizing Eastern minorities are here trying their best to "convict" Ndigbo of some kind of crime.
My Eastern minority brothers should study this pattern of apprehension by these folks some of which share the same region with them now.
Interesting. . . interesting! undecided undecided

This Ohanaeze endorsement and support of Jonathan is indeed a masterstroke! shocked cool cool
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 10:38am On Nov 13, 2010
Abagworo:
It is quite unfair for you to write the above.I have always maintained my stand on individual choice in voting.I don't believe in adoption and will never do that. Go back to my old posts.
I never said there is anything wrong with individual choice. By all means, please vote for whoever pleases you.
I never ever said that you MUST VOTE according to Ohanaeze dictates. undecided

All I have always said here is that in the Nigerian political reality, and being an Igbo man who has witnessed the product of that Nigerian politics and its evil impacts on my part of Nigeria, it will be foolhardy for me not to play the same game others have been playing for years, and with which they have short-changed me and my people in Nigeria.

As we are talking, the north is working VERY HARD to pick a CONSENSUS CANDIDATE for next year's election.
And they have played the same game for 50 years, and have used it to cheat me.  undecided

Igboland is the most marginalized in terms of federal presence and revenue allocation. It did not happen because we played the game others played, rather it happened because we played it your way.

But when you support an animal character attacking me for holding my views, you cross a line.  angry
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 10:30am On Nov 13, 2010
bk.babe97y:
As usual anyone that points out the truth is "sick" according to u!

Show where I/ Abagworo lied!

Did u or did u not staunchly support IBB over GEJ, mainly cus (according to you) Ijaws were backstabbers like the Yourbas?!
And how is that any of your business?  undecided undecided huh

You think that by shitting all over this site in animal fashion, you'll somehow attract attention of intelligent folks here?  huh

Frankly I'm now SO SURE YOU ARE NOT even an AFRICAN.  undecided
So, why are you obsessing over AFRICAN issues? huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh

You always jump into threads like a 5ex starved bat out of hell without understanding the context surrounding issues before shitting all over it like a typical animal you are.  angry angry




IGNORED HENCEFORTH AS USUAL (his worst punishment grin grin)
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 10:15am On Nov 13, 2010
I'm laughing at Abagworo's lame attempt to please morons on this site just to appear cosmopolitan. undecided undecided

Suddenly Abagworo is supporting bk.babe97y's sick insults!  shocked shocked

Whoever takes nairaland polls seriously needs to recheck their convictions.

There is really only one sociopath tribalist on nairaland - BK.BABE.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 5:29am On Nov 13, 2010
jason12345:
then goodluck to jonathan! cheesy. what is the west position huh undecided
A picture is worth a thousand words.

PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 5:06am On Nov 13, 2010
jason12345:
yes. but thats how we southerners see him. what about the northerners? would they feel secluded after this new bond? those are the question we should be asking. but all in all, i am happy for you guys.

by the way, he needs to win some northern states before he can be president.
Some of his strongest supporters are in the north.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 4:59am On Nov 13, 2010
I actually think he is a NATIONAL leader. He understands Nigeria and her problems.
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 4:42am On Nov 13, 2010
I am truly shocked (positively) that Jonathan was already thinking about today 3 years ago! shocked shocked

Jonathan is not getting enough credit at all. He may actually be an "Obama" character after all!

I would trust him and his honest intentions than any other candidate in this race.  cool cool
PoliticsRe: ‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 4:31am On Nov 13, 2010
For those my Igbo brothers who are still debating themselves about supporting Jonathan, please take the time to read this whole interview and advise your thoughts accordingly.
This is the GIST of it:



[b]When Jonathan was picked as running mate of the Late Musa Yar’Adua, he wrote a letter to Ndigbo. The title of that letter is; “Let us build a new era of partnership”. In that letter, Jonathan made good promises to Ndigbo, he didn’t even know whether PDP was going to win the presidential election, let alone him becoming President of Nigeria because as at the time he wrote the letter, he was still governor of Bayelsa. In that letter, he said to the Igbos, I will read it to you. “Upon my selection as a presidential running mate, I have thought deeply and consulted widely on the concerns Ndigbo have regarding the position of south-easterners in the Federation of Nigeria, your security from targeted attacks, state of federal infrastructure in south-east, positions in key federal institutions, extra issues in consultation with some of you and in the best traditions of inclusiveness and good governance.
“I am from the South-south region of Nigeria and I know that relationship between those of us who were in the former Eastern region needs to be strengthened if we are going to achieve our utmost in Nigeria. It is my desire to find a collaborative way to bring the best in Igboland into productive harmony with the best in the Niger Delta for greater interest and benefit of both regions.[/b]
Politics‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North In 2011’ by Onlytruth(op): 4:28am On Nov 13, 2010
[size=16pt]‘Ndigbo Will Not Support The North in 2011’[/size]

Saturday, 13 November 2010 00:00 BY SAMSON EZEA


HIS Royal Highness, Eze Ozobu, a retired Chief Judge, is the first President-General of Ohanaeze Ndigbo. He speaks to some journalists on the recent endorsement of President Goodluck Jonathan by Ohanaeze, the reactions that are trailing and other sundry issues ahead of next year election. SAMSON EZEA was there and reports.
Former President-General of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, Dr. Dozie Ikedife has faulted the method in which the tenure of the incumbent executive of Ohanaeze under the leadership of Ambassador Raph Uwechue was extended to four years, what is your reaction to this?
I am yet to read him on that issue, but he has no reason to back up his argument at all. He should give a reason for saying that amending Ohanaeze constitution can’t be with the Imeobi.
He argued that a constitutional review committee should have been set up to that effect, instead of the Imeobi proposing?
The Imeobi did not decide on the amendment of the constitution, it only made a suggestion that there should be elongation, that two years is not enough for any executive to do any meaningful thing for our people. That was what Imeobi suggested that there should be a review of Article 29 of the Ohanaeze constitution which deals on amendment of the constitution.
As a matter of fact, the constitution in Article 29 provided conditions under which the amendment could be done.
Article 29 of the Ohanaeze Constitution states; “(i) The General Assembly may, subject to the provisions of this article, amend any of the provisions of this constitution. (ii) Any member of Ohanaeze may propose an amendment to Imeobi. (iii) The proposed amendment, if adopted by Imeobi shall thereafter be tabled by the Secretary-General before the General Assembly and shall become effective and operative if it passed by not less than two-thirds majority of the total membership of the General Assembly.”
So, if this is in the constitution, there is no argument against the amendment that has been done. I don’t see any offence, may be Ikedife does not have a grasp of what Article 29 of the constitution states. So the amendment that has been done is in other and constitutional. Now, on the issue of tenure extension, I was the first person to come up with the idea that the executive of Ohanaeze should be four years instead of two. I raised the issue and It was agreed that we look into the tenure of executive of the organization, and I set up a constitution review committee which had Chief Emmanuel Iwuanyanwu as the chairman. Again, Imeobi then, did and agreed that they were going to change it, because it was a matter of agreement and since there was none, it could go that way. We decided at Imeobi that we should change two years to four years. When the matter came up at the General Assembly, it was carried and I was asked to set up a committee, and that was how I set up the Iwuanyanwu committee.
When Ikedife came on board, he saw what I did and said it was right, so for you to tell me that he is oppose to what has been done now is what I can’t understand. Ikedife also agreed that two years was not enough. There was nothing wrong done by the current President-General of Ohanaeze.
We thanked Uwechue for his courage to ensure that Ohanaeze executive tenure is elongated. There is one thing that goes for Uwechue, and that is the fact that he consults. He never said he was going to do it alone, but that he will bring it to Imeobi, and if the Imeobi agrees to the four years, the matter will be taken to the General Assembly for ratification. Indeed, the Imeobi approved it, and the General Assembly ratified it, and that is what Article 29 of the Ohanaeze constitution provides.
During your tenure, you set up a committee to review and amend the constitution from two to four years, Ikedife also did the same. Are you not bothered that Uwechue did not follow the same route in ensuring the amendment?   
It was not necessary to do because the Imeobi, a body that is capable of deciding on the matter were present and agreed to it, I mean, that is even better than setting up a committee. It means that the people accepted to four years at Imeobi and the General Assembly also ratified it and that is what the constitution said.
Are you now saying that the amendment stands?
Absolutely the amendment on the tenure of Ohanaeze from two to four years stands, and it is binding and nobody can change it because the people at General Assembly have ratified and accepted the elongation and that is what the constitution said.
Now Uwechue’s executive who had been there for two years, will not continue for another two years, completing the four years term that is operational in Ohanaeze. When the tenure of the current executive led by Uwechue ends in 2012, the executive that will take over will be there for four years before handing over to another executive.
The reason we support this move is to give enough time for any Ohanaeze executive to achieve something for our people. Like I said, two years was not enough, and now it is four years, which is better. As a matter of fact, the reason for the two years was to allow the office of the President-General go round the states that made up Ohanaeze. Some people then felt that if the tenure had been four years from inception, that it would have been long before the office moves to another state.
Considering the way Ohanaeze is presently structured, do you think is capable of doing the job of a socio-cultural and political organization that can struggle for the interest of Ndigbo?
Yes I think so. The current President-General is not the type that believes he alone can do it, he takes time to consult the necessary people that should be consulted before a crucial decision about Ndigbo is taken.
For example, before the decision to support President Goodluck Jonathan was taken, Uwechue made wide consultation to everybody that should be consulted on the matter, and he kept telling me that this is the direction the people are going and he could have come out after consulting with the people, and said something different from what the people want.
What is your take on the position of some Igbo politicians who are aligning with the North to continue in 2011 and support Ndigbo to produce President in 2015?
These our brothers called me, I will not give out their names and said that they have signed an agreement with the Northerners. On the phone, I asked them, did the Northerners come to you, requesting you to help them present a candidate for the office of the President. They said No. And I asked them again, how could they go there? If the North needed us, they should come to us. I warned them reminding them that they don’t have the authority of Ndigbo to do what they did. I told them, if the Northerners have respect for us, they should come to us. I told them that if they do it, I would call a meeting of Ndigbo and declare that they are not our people. That was what I told them on the phone. They said they were coming to see me and I told them don’t come to see me. I told them that if the Northerners are asking them to help them put up a candidate for that office, we will ask many questions. The North has ruled this country for so many years, what did Ndigbo as a people have to show for that? What is the presence of federal government in Igboland as it is in the North?       
I have run Ohanaeze at a time the Northern governors agreed with me that we meet once every year. Nineteen of them then agreed that an Igbo man must be President of this country. I don’t trust them and I have reasons not to trust them. They promised Alex Ekwueme that he was going to be President of this country, when the time came for them to fulfill that, Ekwueme was pushed out and they brought in Shehu Shagari. They did it second time with the Late M.K.O Abiola. In politics, the Northerners are like mechanics, they will break your car, put it up for you to manage after a while you will be forced to return to them to fix the car again. I told our Abuja people not to bother going to the North because they have failed to keep promises they made in the past and you can continue meeting with them.General Ibrahim Babangida sent some people to meet me. I told them that we would not try the North again. Two weeks later, Atiku Abubakar came here himself and talked to me about how we can help them, I told him that I don’t know how we can help them. I told him that I cannot guarantee our help. I gave him a proverb of the Igbo that a neighbour is better than a brother in the farm (agbata obi ka nwa nne di n’ugbo)
After that our brother in Abuja came and said that after the war Igbo property in the Port Harcourt and Bayelsa were declared abandoned properties. And I asked them would you compare the declaration of Igbo properties as abandoned properties with pogrom? They said No. And I said, if you are alive, you can get your property back from the man who is illegally occupying it, but if you are killed you can’t do it.  Reports about the killing of Igbos by the North has it that about 2 million Igbo people were killed by the North.
I asked them, you talk about people taking our properties, was Jonathan an adult during the war? Was his father one of those who took our properties? If we come together as one, we can negotiate for properties now, but we can never negotiate the killing of our people. Some of these people were not there when our people were killed in the North. I was a Minister then, we go to receive bodies of massacred Igbos in the North at the airport and railway station. These Northerners were so heartless and wicked that after killing a pregnant woman, they will use their knife open her belly, remove the baby there and killed the baby too. After doing all these, they will send the corpses of the Igbos they killed back to us in Igboland for burial. And some of the people who ordered this pogrom are still alive today, coming to us to help them become president now. Have we ourselves been President like them? Don’t we want to be President? One thing the North has always done is when an issue comes up among the Igbos, the North will sponsor one of us who will come to create trouble here. Why must we allow ourselves to be used against our own interest by those who hate us?
[b]When Jonathan was picked as running mate of the Late Musa Yar’Adua, he wrote a letter to Ndigbo. The title of that letter is; “Let us build a new era of partnership”. In that letter, Jonathan made good promises to Ndigbo, he didn’t even know whether PDP was going to win the presidential election, let alone him becoming President of Nigeria because as at the time he wrote the letter, he was still governor of Bayelsa. In that letter, he said to the Igbos, I will read it to you. “Upon my selection as a presidential running mate, I have thought deeply and consulted widely on the concerns Ndigbo have regarding the position of south-easterners in the Federation of Nigeria, your security from targeted attacks, state of federal infrastructure in south-east, positions in key federal institutions, extra issues in consultation with some of you and in the best traditions of inclusiveness and good governance.
“I am from the South-south region of Nigeria and I know that relationship between those of us who were in the former Eastern region needs to be strengthened if we are going to achieve our utmost in Nigeria. It is my desire to find a collaborative way to bring the best in Igboland into productive harmony with the best in the Niger Delta for greater interest and benefit of both regions.[/b]

This was what Jonathan told the Igbos in 2007, when he was only a presidential running mate, he does not know that he would end up as president. Jonathan as at 2007 when he was just a presidential running mate to Yar’Adua, did not feel pleased about the plight of Ndigbo in Nigeria, and he promised to fight. That fact that Jonathan put his desire to fight Igbo course is enough to earn him the support of Ndigbo. He was bold and courageous enough to say he will ensure that Ndigbo get their right place in Nigeria. That alone was capable of making the North hate and probably worked against him, but Jonathan was not bothered.

Apart from the fact that Jonathan is from one of the marginalized regions of Nigeria, how can any right-thinking person jettison someone who came himself and with a promise of what he will do for you, to someone who does not have respect for you, and also could not see any reason to come to you for help, instead you run to him and come here to tell Ndigbo that you have signed an agreement?
After reading Jonathan’s letter to Ndigbo, every righting Igboman would be forced to support Jonathan. He is one of us and we will support him.





What do you think will be the major challenge of the Ndigbo supporting Jonathan?                   
When I was the President-General of Ohanaeze, the late Christian Chukwuma Onoh was alive then, he (Onoh) called an ambassador, a white man who lives here in Enugu, the man came with his wife, I was there and the man said to me, I understand you are the President-General of Ohanaeze Ndigbo, I said yes, he then now said to me, you are not going to achieve anything. I asked why? He said you have no instrument of sanction in Ohanaeze. He said to me, I will conclude my address with the battle song of the Herero; “Listen when the song of the frog resounds from the marshes. Listen to what they have to say, it is good to come together. It is good to reach agreement. It is good to make the voices of many the single voice of all.” That was what he said to me.
How do you think the sanction can be done on anybody person or group you think is working against the interest of Ndigbo?
The traditional rulers of the South-east can say we don’t want them to parade themselves as our representatives on any issue in Nigeria for a period that the Ezes can decide. Once such a decision is taken, the traditional rulers of the communities where they come from will be asked not to have anything to do with them. We can sanction them.
Is there any plan to do that?
But they are so few, very minute. They don’t present any threat to Ndigbo. And we have decided not to lose sleep about them. Whenever they return to the senses, I know they will join the entire Igbos.  They are confused now, some of the people they are banking on among them are already returning home and we have cautioned and accepted them. I don’t know what any Northerner will give to them that will make them go in such a ridiculous way. The North has never given us anything. Even the states that were created in Igboland were done grudgingly. Enugu State was cancelled four times; it was in the fifth time it was created. Looking at the local government here and what it is like in the North, and they use the council area to share the oil money from the South-south and South-east, yet they will never see or wish anything good for the Igbos.
They are so heartless that even the minority tribes among them are being treated like us and somebody is saying that we should allow them.

I have a gate man from Adamawa State; he name is John Joseph, he is very brilliant. The day he told me what they are going through in the hands of these their leaders who have been in government for decades, I felt for him, and imagine what some others are going through. This boy is very brilliant that I have to give him scholarship. He is in school now here in Enugu. The day Atiku came here to ask me to support the North, I call Joseph to come and meet his man. Atiku before asked him if I gave him scholarship and he said yes, and Atiku said he heard so much about Ozobu.
When Atiku left, Joseph told me that what we the Igbos do for our children that they don’t do it for them in the North. Joseph told me that they had wanted to come very close to the Igbos, but they are afraid if they will be accepted. He told me that he is from the community with Atiku.
So, when Simon Okeke and his cohorts in Abuja are talking about supporting the North, we just laughed at them because they don’t know the people they are dealing with. Okeke can’t speak for Ndigbo he knows. What has he done in Anambra State to earn him the position of deciding for Ndigbo where to go and what to do?
How many are they to decide for Ndigbo? They were boasting of Ekwueme, who is Ekwueme? He never brought anything good to us here when he was Vice President of the country. But he has now come back to join us here. He is now with us.
Apart from Ekwueme, who else from their group has joined?     
I have not taken time to note that. But they don’t mean anything to us, as I said before; their number is too small, nowhere to come with the generality of the Igbos. If Ekwueme can abandon them, it means that are nobody.


http://www.ngrguardiannews.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=29004:why-ndigbo-wtill-no-support-the-north-in-2011&catid=73:policy-a-politics&Itemid=607
PoliticsRe: Who Are The Top Ten Most Tribal Nairaland Members? by Onlytruth(m): 8:15pm On Nov 12, 2010
I'm laughing at this poll.  undecided

If it tells me anything, it is that there are more Yorubas on nairaland than Igbos. Or that Yoruba folks here are more unscrupulous (that is they are more likely to use multiple user names). It is NOT a fair poll by a long shot.

I also noticed that Ileke-Idi [/b]is an open supporter of [b]bk.babe97y .  shocked shocked undecided undecided

I can't even find a single Igbo lady supporting tribal champions here.

Tells me a lot.

@ Ezeuche,

Just laugh the poll off!  grin grin grin cool
PoliticsRe: No Victor No Vanquished - How true? by Onlytruth(m): 7:30am On Nov 12, 2010
DapoBear:
This is fstranger's way of admitting that he was kidding, just FYI.
Lame spin!
Your Yoruba brother admitted to murder and is unapologetic about it. So please spare us the bullc%^P.

Here is the man in his own words:

fstranger:
Point of correction .  .   . I am not a Nigerian! I am a confirmed citizen of Oodualand, an unapologetic follower of Awo, a chest thumping Igbo wife beater and an unrepentant Conqueror of the Biafrans. Best get that into your tiny brain.
Only that he is still a coward though. lol!  grin grin grin cheesy grin
PoliticsRe: No Victor No Vanquished - How true? by Onlytruth(m): 6:01am On Nov 12, 2010
fstranger:
There is a difference between a mental fight and a physical one. The best fights are the ones you avoid because they've already been one psychologically. Yorubas have moved on from the archaic ways of fighting, comprising mainly of physical bloodsheds, to the 21st century method, comprising mostly of psychological warfare. After all, it also written in the bible that our fight is not against flesh and blood but against principalities and demons of all authorities and rankings. As our fight is targeted at demons and principalities, it is not easy to determine.
Look at this psychotic demon quoting the bible! undecided undecided undecided shocked

Anyway, even the devil quoted the bible too.
Good luck with your "war".
You killed unarmed innocent Igbo people and lied to the police about it.
Coward.
PoliticsRe: No Victor No Vanquished - How true? by Onlytruth(m): 12:01am On Nov 12, 2010
Seun:
What are you talking about?  They lost the war.  I[b]f they had not started the war in the first place,[/b] or if they had surrendered early instead of waiting for one million people to die, you will be exactly where you are today, except that all those people who died will not have died.  War is silly.
You of all persons should know that they DID NOT start the war. They fought in defense after Gowon started his so called police action at Garkem.
Wasn't it your brother who just confessed to killing unarmed Igbo in Modakeke and lying to the police about it?
These things didn't end in Biafra. It continues even today.

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