₦airaland Forum

9jaganja:
I think I'm done with you now! And secondly you have no clue what a straw man's argument mean you just heard it as a way to dispute people and you chose to use it. Well done and goodbye.



@ only truth

Any president that will support the marginalization of Igbos or any tribe is not only a threat to peace in Igbo land but also in Nigeria and Africa. I don't think Igbos are marginalized and I don't think Jonathan will marginalize Igbos if voted though I have no proof for that,

Thank you for admitting that you have no proof for that. Igbo people say that a person once bitten by a snake always takes flight on sighting a mere lizard. Our fear is genuine because of our recent history in Nigeria.

All we are doing now is what I call "forensic prognostication".

We need to be sure before we support the guy.

Betrayal is a very painful thing.

9jaganja:
I heard Nigerian economy fell sharply under IBB. This isn't about talking about why I won't vote IBB, it's about correcting your your reason for not voting Jonathan which is because of someone Jonathan is not which is Edwin. Jonathan is not Edwin. So sentiments aside, is Jonathan good enough for you? If yes vote for him and if you won't vote for him, do it because there is a better candidate not because Edwin Clarke said something which has almost nothing to do with Jonathan.

Let me help you a little (though I suspect you already know ). What Igbos are afraid of is a president who would continue Igbo marginalization in Nigeria.

Jonathan may be the best presidential material in the world, but if his mindset is controlled by Clarke"ism", he is a threat to Igbo survival. I have not seen that evidence yet, so all this is speculation.

Frankly I support some points in your thinking, which is that Jonathan must be judged on his own merit and actions instead of utterance by a Clarke. That is assuming that Jonathan has made some commitment to carry Igbo interests along.
Igbo would still vote for him as long as he distances from the Clarkes of Nigeria.

Eziachi:
The Biafra agenda is not ambigious, the agenda is not to split, dissolve or disintegrate Nigeria. Our agenda is to deserve the right to be part of Nigerian polygamous marriage or to opt out. Those who wish and are comfortable with that marriage can stay if that is their choice.

Regarding the U.N, MASSOB in joint effort with BLF and Biafra government in exile, in the early part of this century submitted a 2001 page document at the UN asking for plebicide according to laid down procedure of the organisation based on the right to self determination. It was directly handed over to Kofi Annan then as the secretary general, I SHOULD KNOW BECAUSE I WAS THERE IN PERSON AS PART OF THE DELEGATION. It was the same day southern Sudan Submittd theirs.

This is the period of hard underground effort in collection of facts, data and evidence for the D-day, of which all the voluteering guys at the Biafra House in Washington are doing a great job. Biafra House that cost us over 2 million dollars through voluntary donations of Biafrans and sympathizers was commissioned in 2003 by His Excellency Dim Emeka Ojukwu and in attendance were four U.S congressmen and thousands of Biafrans that came from all over the world.

Biafran House is where the now twice weekly Voice of Biafra (VON)broadcast from on the shortwave frequency to 62 countries.
We knew it will be a long journey, that may only be realised by our grand children but that is okay, patient is the word. As southern Sudan has already been given a date as we speak, hastened by events in the Darfur region.

This process takes time and according to the rule, when Biafra time comes, it will be called up for discussion at the U.N, that is where the real legal fireworks begin. We have already hired a top U.S attorney that specialized in that field, along with 5 other Biafran U.S base attorneys. I am sure Nigeria is also getting ready when the day arrives.

I know for sure that Igbos can raise billions of dollars in support of a Biafran project.
I see that some folks are still baffled at this Biafran resilience. They don't know us, I swear.
Thanks for this post Eziachi.

My submission is that any Nigeria who is qualified should run for office of the president. Also, the elections must be free and fair. If elections are free and fair, I know there is no way PDP will take over the south east.
So Jonathan should conduct a free and fair poll, whether he runs or not.

You know, what baffles me most is that when some elements from south south chant this ludicrous political alliance with the north, they still turn around to complain that they've been marginalized for 50 years.
My question to them is: Who has been ruling Nigeria for 38 years of the 50 years? Isn't it the same "allies"?  

I can't fathom the level of idiocy in some statements coming out of this zone. I wonder how an antelope can be allies with the lion.  

Wouldn't it make more sense for the antelope to ally with the elephant instead? At least the elephant is not a predator by nature, is bigger in size, and can be preyed upon by the same lion. So both share interest.

Still wonder how some people reason.

The OP is onto something. 

It is tempting to wave off Edwin Clark as some senile f00l, but doing so would be even more f00lish. Edwin Clark("ism" is like a cancer in the south south that one ignores to ones peril. The man is influencing the thinking in this region with his oafy comments. The south south region is the most diverse in terms of ethnicity; Edwin Clark is Ijaw and is basically indoctrinating the rest of the south south ethnics into his warped Ijaw mindset.

I personally noticed that the best argument this region puts forward to the north concerning why Jonathan should continue in office, is their "alliance" with the north during the Biafran war. As far as I know, the Ijaw might have worked with the north more than all other groups in the war against Biafra; but soon, if Ndigbo keep ignoring this metastasizing  cancer, even the Efik, Ibibio and Annang who were staunch Biafrans, would be lobbed into the same "we were north's allies" against Biafra.
For making that claim alone, Ndigbo should not support anyone from south south who identifies with that claim.

We may be politically fractious in Igboland, but the most unifying factor is Biafra. Anyone who identifies himself as being part of the war against Biafra automatically loses Igbo vote. Any remote reference to that era is a direct attack on Ndigbo.

That is why if Jonathan is serious about even contesting next year, he should move fast to remove such elements from his campaign. Some of the northern candidates have done more for the Igbo than any southerner. So no one should be shocked if Ndigbo decide to back a northerner.

@OP
Thanks for your post.

The Nigerian political scenario is changing daily and becoming more tricky. Jonathan's silence is also a little disturbing because it would have helped a lot if he declared interest pronto, that way real horsetrading will begin.

^^
lol. I see that [b]bilygoat [/b]is still alive on nairaland. Thought I killed the mudderf0kker sometime ago.

He and his tribesmen are morbidly afraid of a disintegrated Nigeria. So, they attack anyone who remotely reminds them that Nigeria could disintegrate if they don't stop their theft.

Not to be misunderstood:

The decision to marry a particular woman lies with the man. Therefore you "the man" must be responsible for picking the wrong wife. IT TAKES A LOT OF WISDOM AND DISCIPLINE to pick a good wife.

Every man has personal limits. Your challenge is to understands that limit and find a woman who  fills it up without taking your pound of flesh. To find that woman that compliments or "fills up" that limit, you must be realistic about it. You must be honest with yourself. Don't pick a wife to impress anyone. Just DON'T!  Don't pick a model wife or the so called "hot wife". I see a lot of men making this mistake.

A "mad" man should not get married. Period.  All these recommendations are assuming a normal Igbo man with his full senses. You can call me whatever you want, but the success or failure of a marriage depends to great extents on the man because he plans it from day one. He has a lot of power to design it.

If he wakes up to discover that he had picked Jezebel for a wife, well, tough luck! He must not kill her for it! This article is skewed to some extent because it fails to address the other side of the story which is that of men destroyed by these types of marriages, who are alive but are as good as dead. I know my friend is!

That is why I am still saying that until Igbo women start proposing to Igbo men, and sponsoring all the traditional rites (approaching families, making overtures to family and spouse, wine carrying and wedding) in Igbo culture, until they take over the current roles of wooing and "toasting" and choosing their husbands, the man must take responsibility for picking the wrong wife.

If you wake up to find that you've picked a scorpion (akpi in Igbo), you only have yourself to blame.

Take your time, do proper due diligence, stay away from most nairaland girls , forget the "sweetness" of the toto , don't hang your coat higher than your actual height, you'll do well. If you can't do these, go back to Nigeria, marry there and stay there. At least you'd have societal support to some extent.

Aloy_Emeka:
Anambra: Man kills wife over N35,000, blames devil
From GEOFFREY ANYANWU, Awka

Monday, July 26, 2010
A man (names. withheld), 52, has in anger allegedly murdered his wife in Achalla, Awka North Local Government Area of Anambra State.




http://odili.net/news/source/2010/jul/26/500.html

The suspect told Daily Sun: “How will I feel? I have been in deep sorrow. I can’t explain what happened to me. The devil has won the battle now. I have been crying and regretting since then.”

The palm-wine tapper and rice farmer, said the death of his wife, 40, caused by him was unimaginable as it was the last thing he could have ever thought of doing. The marriage was contracted 20 years ago and the union has produced six children, three males and three females, with the first child now 19 years.

The union, he said, was peaceful until 13 years ago when the deceased woman allegedly ran away from their home with the sum of N89, 000 given to her by him to start a business. But instead, she allegedly went to co-habit with another man, resident in the village and said to be her lover. She was said to have used the money to maintain the lover boy and even bought him a motorcycle.

She was said to have refused to return home even after series of visits by the husband, who claimed he had at several occasions asked the man to leave his wife alone: “We have been living in peace until now. The cause of the problem is that she said that she wanted to trade, I gave her money. This is the 13th year I gave her that money to trade with and she did not give any account.

“I gave her N89, 000. Instead of trading with that money because she said she wanted to sell yams, she absconded with her boyfriend. She went to live with him, she didn’t give me any money. The man she ran to live with is in my village, but he is not a native of my village. “She ran to him with all the money. She bought machine, stove, pots and they were cooking and eating. So, I went to the man to tell him to leave my wife for me.”

But instead of feeling remorseful and asking the woman to go back to her husband, the lover boy, according to the suspect, became daring and confronted him with dangerous weapons at the market with the intention to harm him.

The matter, he said, was reported to the police, who arrested and detained the man. But to his greatest surprise, his late wife and her family were sending food to her lover in the police cell and eventually bailed him out.

He said he later forgave the late wife and took her back when the members of her family came to apologize on her behalf. This action, he said, made matters worse as she showed no sign of repentance from her wayward life:

“After that, on our market day, the man came with scissors to the market where I was selling palm fruits to stab me. People started shouting and I ran away. I invited the police and they locked him up in our town. My wife and her people were cooking food and taking to him at the police station.

Hmmmm!

Now imagine such woman in America!

I don't support any killings. That is why I urge Igbo men to think long and hard before bringing a woman from Nigeria. We can solve this if we accept that we can do something before it gets to that desperate stage. Think long and hard before bringing that girl.

I don talk my own.

morpheus24:
Bros go home, I repeat again, Go home or better still try to mess with girls that live in Europe who are far better than the ones in the US. Europe still has good elements of culture and values.

And please when you go home don't go and pic some hungry woman, know your levels when you enter town.

To support your point a little, it might be better to find someone who can bring herself to the US (ie through lottery visa or other legal ways), example, those who used to visit here before. They come better equipped to handle the culture shock. They already know what the deal is.

Those might be my only exception.

oyinda.:
lol like my mom always says: if you are taking too long to find an outfit to wear, it means you have too many clothes. because if you only have a few clothes, u won't have the time and option to be sorting through your closet.
like your friend has already mentioned, men outnumber women 5:1. so you guys have the time and option to be sorting through women for "quality". i don't blame you. it's because u have too many options.

maybe you should ask your great grand father if he was looking for "quality" when searching for a wife back in d days.
nowadays even the laziest, ugliest, most broke man is looking for quality. lol women don suffer.


my bad. didn't know u were asking morpheus24 specifically.
but anyways, i recommend u ask a nairaland man who IS MARRIED. like sienna maybe. he brought his wife from naija and he seem happy with a beautiful family. he was dating oyinbo prior to that.

An Igbo man marries a wife FOR LIFE. He is not marrying for show, or for only good times. He seeks out that woman who can stay the course through thick and thin, and  who would never forget their own culture which has been tested for thousands of years.

I AM HAPPILY MARRIED.

Please this advise is for Igbo men mainly.

ada24:
only truth - walking from nnewi to abia - are u suggesting in the age of kidnapping u would be happy for your wife to do the same.
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I used that as illustration just to show that even in more tempting circumstances, quality women see beyond the temptations and stay the course. Chaffy ones gets blown by the wind.

America is not a war zone, but the social challenges can be daunting sometimes. So, if these women fall because of mere social challenges, what would they do in war?
An Igbo man marries a wife FOR LIFE. He is not marrying for show, or for only good times. He seeks out that woman who can stay the course through thick and thin, and  who would never forget their own culture which has been tested for thousands of years.

ada24:
only truth - walking from nnewi to abia - are u suggesting in the age of kidnapping u would be happy for your wife to do the same.

remember a lot of women back then were not educated - God forbod her loosing her husband and being at the mercy of her husbands people.

please think about this - a society that has a regard for women, children and the elderly generally tend to be progressive and civilised. where woman and children are considered 2nd class that society has a long way to go, politically, socially and economically.

Can you in all honesty say that Igbo land is the most uncivilized part of Nigeria?
Can you in all honesty say that Igbo marriages are the most abusive in Nigeria?

I can boldly say that Igbo marriages are the MOST successful I can think of in Nigeria. We are mainly monogamists and have solid families. What are you people even talking about?

So coming to America makes you forget all those facts?  

oyinda.:
u naija men just need to learn to control your aggressive behavior. anger management is very important since your not in naija anymore. imagine killing your wife.
the naija women adjust well to american society, make their money and are able to provide a future for their kids. so, why is it so hard for d men to adapt? how is anger issues a "value" or how is womanizing a "value"?
u guys need to let go of d ideas that are making naija as stagnant as it is today.

even india where women have limited freedom. today, they make up d majority of outsourcing industry and stay out late to work. indian economy is booming because of this.
imaging placing curfew on women. in 21st century are we still slaves or what? that is useless value IMO.


@onlytruth,
u say those were d days of quality women. but you say that your mom's colleagues ran after soldiers who promised food.
so were d women quality or not?
i mean i understand it's natural to idealize and romanticize the past. ie "good old days" but really what woman would want to live in such time?

Please note that I'm reminding men that they CAN stop these problems even before they arise.

There are always bad women (bad wives) since Adam and Even. No man goes to look for ANY WOMAN to marry. You first conduct a proper due diligence (just like women do ) before even proposing.

A wise man seeks out QUALITY women for marriage. They are FEW.

Quality is really scarce these days. A quality woman thinks deeper than the chaffy ones. Chaffy ones get carried by the wind.

morpheus24:
there is still hope, I am praying there are at least 10% of these sort of women remaining. Probability is if there are and women outnumber men 5 to 1. My chances are good!!!


Marriage is not by force o!

I hear you bro! I truly do. Just keep your eyes properly shined.

Mind you these ladies only talk because we marry them. This issue won't arise if we don't. Simple.

morpheus24:
The best solution to the issue. All our "[b]new age" /modern sophisticated /very well educated/don't need a man/make my own money/ girls [/b]should not get married or better still mary Onyibo so the problem will be resolved

SHIKENA!!!

May not be far from the truth. lol.

I really think that Nigerian society in general and Igbo society in particular is producing lower quality women by the day. These poorly raised and loosely trained girls are  what we are faced with these days.

I recall the story my aunty told me about the civil war. While my father was busy at the war front fighting for Biafra, my mother was fending for the home and still remained committed to the marriage. She would walk miles from Nnewi to Umuahia (on foot of course) while conducting "afia attack" (Igbos would understand this), enduring all at the check points of Biafran soldiers and constant bombing by Nigerian soldiers, all in order to feed her family. She remain undefiled and chaste throughout the whole war ordeal while her colleagues ran after Nigerian soldiers who promised food.
Even when my dad returned from the war injured, she stayed same and loved him same all through. I cannot recall my dad ever raising a voice at my mum because both understood their positions in the home.

Nigerian woman today would see that as opportunity to do all she'd ever dreamed of.

Those were the days of QUALITY women, and they may have gone for good.

Cohomology:
Leave[b] the gullible [/b]to buy into the "slave" talk.

lol. Exactly.

chiogo:
So, basically you're blaming the women [/b]even though you claimed earlier that the homicide can not be justified?

Why do you think it works for couples already living here? Could it be that they have both acclimatized themselves with the environment? I feel as though men who go to Nigeria looking for wives are merely looking for someone they deem inferior(Kobojunkie mentioned this already). They believe that the fact that they brought the women to the States is meant to put them on a higher pedestal than men are already put in the Nigerian society. They make the mistake of forgetting that this is America and humans have rights which protect them unlike Nigeria. The realization that these women have become privy to these rights and are beginning to embrace and enjoy it makes these men feel intimidated. [b]After all, they thought they married slaves but the slave seems to be getting smarter. They know the Nigerian women based here are already knowledgeable about these things so these men wouldn't go for those ones because they're looking for door-mats but unfortunately for them, the Nigerian ones don't stay that way for long.
I also think your friend should find someone in the States but not for the reasons Onlytruth gave. What's your friend afraid of? One would think there are no Nigerian women abroad, doesn't make sense.

If you follow my point you would realize that I believe the men are responsible for their plights. They have a choice whom to marry. They basically design their marriages.

The "slave" thing is a feminist sound bite that most of such women buy into. It is an aberration. While the man was investing in this family, was he a slave?

This is the mentality I'm talking about. There are NO SLAVES IN MARRIAGES.

Cohomology:
Brutal!

But are you saying that you've not seen [b]one aka 1 aka ofu aka ikan that worked?[/b]

Of course I can't say that! No one can. lol. 

All I'm saying is that the risk is high and the man being the designer of his marital home must take the initiative to lay the proper foundations, e.g avoiding dangerous marriages.

The risk is very high, and contrary to what the author of the article tried to do, I think this has little to do with the men's clout here. It has everything to do with culture shock and clash. The women who fall in these are not the most intelligent Nigerian babes. The intelligent ones often see beyond mere "Nirvana", they see real stuff. I don't think there are up to 5% of Nigerian women who can handle the challenges of total freedom.
Total freedom in my own definition is when the husband is completely powerless to rein the wife in.
Only FEW Nigerian women manage that freedom properly. Most don't.

This is the education producing our leaders. . .

We don die.

Cohomology:
My very good friend has been dating a girl in Naija and is planning to go home Jan '11 to marry her and bring her over. This girl seems like a very good girl and very smart too. From a good home also. I'm afraid for him now. So, you suggest he dumps her and marry someone here? This is a toughie!

They always "seem like a very good girl and comes from a good home" until she acclimatizes!

I would advise your friend to thread softly. Believe me, there are good girls here in the US. He only needs to look for them. I even know some "akata" who understand African culture more than these Nigerian imports.

If he must marry her, he should NEVER bring her here. He should keep her in Nigeria until he is able to relocate back.

Cohomology:
Very strong position to take.

Just curious, did you marry your wife in the US or in Nigeria?

Of course I married her here (the US).
She and I have the same understanding of things. I can't tell her these things. She knows already.

The Igbo say that an orphan often eavesdrops when a father is advising his child. I've learned by watching other peoples experience here.

The other thing I personally notice about these  homicidal marriages is that the women are mainly nurses.
No pun intended, but nurses are not the most educated Nigerians, and it shows in their behaviors.

I know of one case where a certain hospital human resources department was complaining bitterly about the behaviors of some Nigerian nurses in their employ. They exhibit uncontrolled gluttony at the sight of condiments deposited at the pantry for staff light refreshment. Some of these nurse basically cart these condiments home leaving empty pantries behind.
Other workers from other countries would simply take what they needed eg. one sachet of fast Quaker oat meal, just enough for self. The Nigerian nurse will empty the entire tray!
That is the same attitude they adopt when dealing with their husbands at home.

Of course I personally will not marry anyone who is not holding at least a Masters degree in ANYTHING. I don't care what field. I need an educated woman at home!

So my advise again: NEVER MARRY A NIGERIAN WOMAN AND BRING HER TO THE US.

If you must marry her, then relocate to Nigeria. Simple.

I've followed this topic closely and I've come to certain conclusions.

The problem is that the concept of marriage in Nigeria means a different thing from what obtains in the US. As a married Igbo man in the US, I can discuss this very easily.

The core idea is for the man (being the head of household in Igbo culture) to realize that the success or failure of the marriage lies with him, and he must make that conclusion BEFORE he gets married to ANYONE IN NIGERIA.

I know so many happy marriages in Nigeria which broke irreparably in the US, and I mean real happy marriages with both parties understanding their roles in the home. The man provides for his family, and the woman also provides when she can. In modern times BOTH parties work in Nigeria and provide for the family, but the man still remains the head of household. He consults his wife before making sensitive decisions, but the buck really stops with him. THERE CAN NEVER BE TWO CAPTAINS IN ONE SHIP. The ladies in Nigeria understand that and defer to their husband, while the men love their wives and will even die for them. Please note that this has almost nothing to do with class or education. I know many illiterate Igbo men with degree holder wives in Nigeria, and they live happily.

But out here, the women buy into a false sense of EQUALITY at home and start challenging EVERY decision the man makes. US is a highly individualistic society with also zero societal support. You can really do anything you want with yourself as long as you are not breaking the law. A married man or woman can do ANYTHING they want provided they can live with the consequences. In Nigeria it is not like that. There are societal consequences to actions.
So when that societal support gives way, only FEW WOMEN are not tempted to push the limit of their "freedom". And when the chips fall, the man is mostly left holding the empty bag after many years of planning his family and providing for them in Nigeria, he loses it all because the woman decided to enjoy her "freedom".  

The US is mostly a community property nation, direct implication is that in the event of any divorce, the woman almost always takes possession of the house and the children until visitation rights are worked out. The man MUST move out. Most of these men have invested (like most Igbo men) heavily in their families: wives upkeep (Igbo man will buy the best clothes for his wive and will even starve doing so), kids (Igbo man must send his kids to the best school, he will starve instead), and other similar sacrifices. Such deviant women never even think about these. All they see is the chance to take what the man worked so hard for and leave. The next day, don't be surprised if she starts dating your close friends! That is what lead to these types of homicides. They can never be justified, but how can anyone justify such heartlessness from some Igbo women in the US?

A friend of mine went through a similar ordeal. He nearly died! ( a lot of guys just go to sleep and never wake up!). It is that bad. He has survived his for 10 years now while his wife was busy sleeping with any man of her fantasy. Guess what folks, she now wants to come back to the man! She has sent emissaries, done almost everything she can to get back but the husband has since moved on (though he is still single). He cannot remarry. He was broken beyond repair!

My final advise and submission on this topic to Nigerians (especially Igbo men in the US) : NEVER MARRY A WOMAN IN NIGERIA AND BRING HER TO THE US. PERIOD!

Let Nigerian women in Nigeria marry Nigerians at home, while those abroad should marry abroad to anyone of their choice. The gap is too much.

Only very few marriages survive this culture shock.

It appears that education means an entirely different thing in Nigeria, else I cannot understand how someone who can read and write in today's world rationalize this proposed new law.

I am truly worried that illiterates have taken complete control of Nigeria, because if that is not the case, there is no way this new proposal would have left the jungle desk of the proposing police officer and even made it out of the police station. The proposing officer should be tried for conspiracy to commit extra-judicial killing.

Which policemen/women even came up with this idea, and how far have they gone at the so called national assembly?
To whom did they show this law, and what did they say?

I understand that there is freedom of speech, but a person in authority cannot exercise that carelessly or innocent people will die.

This law is nothing short of conspiracy to legalize extra-judicial killings. The Nigerian judiciary is gradually being schemed out of relevance. Soon someone will openly pronounce the courts redundant!

For those who are still living in the 12th century, this law will take you back even to earlier times, and don't be shocked if you die as a result.

The definition of "armed robber" or "kidnapper" in Nigeria is as fluid as your willingness to be robbed by the police.

^^

Yes I'm not really much interested in the size of this mall. I'm more interested in its quality. The governor must ensure that the developer is serious and not some con man trying to secure prime location with the help of the governor only to start building something else there. I don't trust Nigerians. I'll be watching this project because Enugu is my second home town. If this guys fkcs us, I'll be on his tail.

I have always said it that until Nigeria is governed by civilized people, there will be no peace in that country.

Violence only breeds more violence.

The police is scheming to usurp the role of the judiciary in the dispensation of justice. They can't devise an ingenious solution to the kidnapping and other crimes, so they are doing what they know: the same old recidivism to the laws of the hobbessian jungle.

So my question is this: Does it mean that the Nigerian police is incapable of operating by 20th century standards (never mind the 21st century ones)

So, the only thing they can think about as a solution to the crime problem is "on the spot" execution of criminals?

What type of a country is this? 

Police Plan New Law

TO check kidnapping and other related crimes, the Police High Command is planning new regulations that will ensure severe sanctions for such offences.
The plan, if it sails through, will enable the police to take on-the-spot decision and action when suspected criminals are caught.
The Guardian learnt the proposal would soon be sent to the National Assembly for action with a view to stemming the high rate of crime in the country.
Already, most members of the National Assembly had in the past few months made suggestions for a bill that if passed into law will help reduce heinous crime like kidnapping, murder and armed banditry.
The new move by the police to begin work on the proposal was propelled by the recent abduction of four journalists who were later released unconditionally.
The spate of kidnapping in the South-East, which has continued unabated, prompted the Police to begin the mass deployment of serving officers and men from that zone to other parts of the country.
“The increase in crime rate within the South Eastern part of the country is a source of concern to the country. So, it will not be surprise if the Police High Command come out with more stiffer penalty to reduce the menace,” said an officer.
Statistics have shown that no fewer than 500 suspected kidnappers and over 1000-armed robbers are currently in various police cells and prisons in the South eastern states.
The increase has promoted the police state commands to become more security conscious to avert stiffer action from the Federal Government.
The Inspector General of Police (IGP) Ogbonna Onovo, in a recent interview, said his regime would remain focussed in crime fighting with a view to actualising his three-point agenda of reducing crime to its zero level and putting the country in its right path.
The high command, in its usual security meetings, had continued to plead with the civil populace to give police more clues that will help them tackle crimes within the country as it is done in other develop nations.

http://www.guardiannewsngr.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18002:police-plan-new-law-to-reduce-kidnapping-others&catid=1:national&Itemid=559


Comments:

fugboma 2010-07-26 07:55

Having read the above article, I was quite shocked with the phrase ' will enable the police to take on-the spot decision and action'. I don't know about anybody else's view but in my book that is licence for the police to run amok. We are talking about a corrupt, incompetent, poorly trained, inept and un-professional police force that even with the current checks in place still manage to commit attrocities beyond comprehension. So imagine that same force with a carte blanche power to do whatever. I shudder to think what will happen next, suffice to say that many innocent Nigerians are going to suffer. I do recognise that the menace of Kidnapping and other heinous crimes need to be checked, but giving the Nigerian Police Farce, oh sorry, I mean the Nigerian Police Force such powers would undermine the rule of law and our democratic values.


ogbovodo 2010-07-26 05:07

when i read the headline of the story i was expecting you guys to lay out the details of the proposed new law or regulation or whatever you call it. And what does "will enable the police to take on the spot decision and action when suspected criminals are caught" means?. This is very troubling to any law abiding citizen because this could mean summary justice and typically it's jungle justice. So please i expect nothing less from the flagship but a full disclosure of the details of the so called new regulations the police are seeking from the legislature. Criminals need to be dealt with within the full extent of the law nothing less nothing more.

ezeagu:
I guess the creation of Kosovo, the Scottish parliament, the Welsh parliament, the dissolution of Yugoslavia, the Southern Sudan referendum and the Irish nationalists also remind you of Adolf Hitler, right? Please tell me if they do and also tell me how they have been influenced by the same man.

By the way, how does the Third Reich compare to a struggle for self determination? Who on this thread planned to take over the world and establish a racial hierarchy, or are we just pulling out any word to cause fear? Lebensraum, did you even read up on the plan and did you think hard before seriously insulting someone by comparing them to Hitler?

The dissolution of these African countries has already begun with Sudan. You’re scared of change like many other African people, but it will happen regardless of your attitude. No one is going to wait for you in a country that over looks the murder of 500 of its citizens, and nobody will wait for you when these countries finally reach their planned destination, which is civil war. People are tired and the amount of calls for a break up would never be heard in a secure country that will supposedly be ‘one forever’. Get ready because the ‘reich’ is coming.

lol. I thought I was the only one noticing the fear mongering on that posters comments. More importantly, I really wonder why such morbid fear exists most in western Nigeria . I know that even some northerners by their actions (comments on zoning for instance) show that they are prepared to try self determination if Nigeria fails to work. The western Nigerians on the other hand show this irrational fear of a disintegrated Nigeria. I wonder why.
I honestly wonder why.
It probably means that they are benefiting most from the status quo than anybody else. Why can't they seriously think about a country outside current Nigeria? It baffles me frankly.

I know for instance that because we've come so far in southern Nigerian relations, that a southern Nigerian nation CAN be worked out. So that fear is baseless. Let's open up our imaginations to a restructured Nigeria where no one feels arrested, trapped or strangulated.
Bold imagination is the key, not fear.