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| Crime › Re: We Don’t Need Bank Insider To Transfer Money From Victims’ Phones ― Suspects by Openbusiness: 10:57am On Aug 28, 2020 |
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| Health › Re: Woman Dies After Giving Birth To Quadruplets In Lagos; Was Childless For 7 Years by Openbusiness: 9:53am On Aug 28, 2020 |
fewAreRoaming:So young women don't die of childbirth complications sometimes too? Age is not the deciding factor of whether pre-childbirth or post-childbirth will be medical complications free. 1 Like |
| Business › Re: Hurry Now And Buy For Your Homes, Offices, Business Places, Schools............. by Openbusiness: 9:24am On Aug 28, 2020 |
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| Politics › Re: Osinbajo: Concerns About CAMA Can Be Addressed Through Ammendments by Openbusiness: 9:08am On Aug 28, 2020 |
simpleseyi:One sentence  Seyi go to primary school and learn the meaning of full stop first. Then you can come back and talk about sentence. Daz d way out of my mentions (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞ 1 Like |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 8:48am On Aug 28, 2020 |
Simeonjoe1:The Soviet Union majorly contributed LIVES or MANPOWER, which prolonged the war in favor of the Alliance (USA + Britain + Soviet Union). It was this alliance that defeated Germany. Ok, when we consider it as an equation, so far I said that: (Britain + Soviet Union) - USA VS Germany = Defeat Now you bring a very interesting and very intelligent theory which is: (USA + Britain) - Soviet Union VS Germany = ? If you examine the general situation and the entire picture then you will see that it will equal VICTORY because, America was the deciding factor in that war. (USA + Britain) - Soviet Union VS Germany = Victory And; USA - Only America had the military capacity and technology to defeat Germany. Before you brush me off. Let me explain better: Initially, America participation was handicapped by internal politics. As at the time the war started Roosevelt already made a declaration that America would be neutral in the war. They wanted to avoid being dragged into the war like WW1, and they had a treaty in place with Germany from WW1 etc. So America didn't want to fight that war initially. The aim was to sit it out, even though Roosevelt argued that it was not in America's interest to have to face a German Europe alone, Congress didn't want an involvement in the war, neither did the American people and elections was around the corner. So it would have been political suicide if Roosevelt acted unilaterally and pushed USA to war without congressional approval. Knowing how WW1 played out and how it was USA involvement that caused their loss, Hitler's Germany wanted to avoid the mistakes of the first world war and made a pact or treaty with Mussolini Italy and the Emperor Japan to form an allied power bloc and Germany declared that by reason of the treaty an attack on any of them by America is an attack on the 3 and Germany would declare war against America. The Japanese made Hitler to promise them that if America attacks Japan, Germany would support them to fight a war against America. Hitler agreed. But Japan and Germany were dishonest and it was that dishonesty that was the beginning their problem. Germany was planning to attack Europe and take over but Hitler never told the Japanese about this plan. The Japanese were planning to attack USA but the Japanese never told Hitler of this plan. The agreement they made with Hitler was that Germany will declare war against America if "America attacks Japan" first, not Japan attacking America first. Hitler made the treaty as a deterrent to make America to avoid going to war with Japan. On the side of Germany, Hitler never told the Japanese he wanted to attack Europe and take over. Had the Japanese known this they would have had a rethink with their alliance and making an attack on USA. This was where the real problem started. Japan thought, if I attack USA, Italy + Germany will come and join and they will defeat America. They didn't know Hitler will be busy fighting his own war. When Japan bombed Pearl Harbor, Hitler was surprised, the arrangement was if America attack Japan, not the other way around but none the less, Hitler honored the agreement and declared war against America. But it was the same time that Hitler moved to attack Europe, and the Japanese were surprised because a war in Europe meant that Japan was going to be fighting America alone and the support they were getting was on paper. Hitler was busy with his mission and war in Europe and Italy was supporting that. So Japan was alone to face America. And they were defeated. As for Europe, they were no match for Germany and the war would have prolonged but Germany would have won eventually. Britain did NOT have the military capacity to win or withstand a continuous attack. It was America that supplied then with weapons, ships, equipment etc till the point Britain was broke, no money to pay for supplies again and Churchill was begging Roosevelt to supply them for free as a humanitarian help. But Roosevelt said no, because he knew Congress and the people won't accept such deal and it will backfire on his head. So Roosevelt told Britain if they want to continue receiving military supplies without money, they have to free and lease some of their external territories to America for many years, to be used as US military bases. Churchill and Britain agreed but they were angry about it. They called it one of the most cruel acts in the war of an ally towards an ally. But that was the only deal Roosevelt knew Congress would support, as a means for military expansion, and that idea worked. Later USA got involved directly and helped them with critical military aspects like intelligence gathering, weapons etc that changed the game and direction of the war. Because when the war started, Hitler successes was tremendous on both sides, they were beating Britain and Soviets in initial battles. One thing you fail to realize is that at the time America defeated Japan, they had the ultimate weapon in this world that no other country had. America had developed the nuclear bomb and they used it to make the Japanese surrender. No other country had this capacity. Only USA did. The Germans were trying to build it, but they did not have the scientists who could pull it off. People like Einstein etc were in America and working for America. The most brilliant scientists that understood Nuclear technology had been hijacked or had voluntarily escaped their way to support America. So at that time, America was the most advanced military in the world. Without the numbers or manpower from the Soviets, Britain would have had a lot of casualties but America would still be the game changer that will win the war for them, because if it got to a critical stage, America would have dropped the same Nuclear bomb they used to subdue Japan and dropped it on the Germans. So Germany would have lost because of America. One on one, Germany vs USA, they would have still lost. America was the game changer in WW2. They won it for the allies in WW1 and their input in WW2 also won it. |
| Politics › Re: Osinbajo: Concerns About CAMA Can Be Addressed Through Ammendments by Openbusiness: 7:47am On Aug 28, 2020 |
DEmejioba1:Terrorists that killed thousands of civilians and soldiers and stole + destroyed properties of civilians + military assets worth billions have legal backing of being protected, cared for, "rehabilitated" and reintegrated into society as free men. But someone that made a "controversial" statement or song that some people deemed as insult to their religous beliefs has been legally by Sharia laws (which is operating legally because it has legal backing in the Constitution) been arrested, prosecuted and sentenced to death, with the Governor of that jurisdiction allegedly saying that he is ready and eager to sign off the implementation of his execution. Now tell me your kind Honorable Sir, is that good thing or a bad thing? Share your views please. 1 Like |
| Politics › Re: Osinbajo: Concerns About CAMA Can Be Addressed Through Ammendments by Openbusiness: 7:22am On Aug 28, 2020 |
techmo:No, I don't want Buhari to do that. My answer was in response to your question about what Osinbande proposed, which you said was brilliant but I was letting you know was not automatic and so not practical to address the immediate concerns of the religious organizations. Then as per constitution, Buhari signed the bill; without his signature it won't be law. Same Constitution gives power to make executive orders that can suspend or halt implementation of certain aspects or totality of a law. It is within his constitutional powers. What he cannot do is scrap it but he can pause or suspend the implementation by executive order. But outside of all that, what I want Buhari to do is to start a fire that will consume his regime and destroy whatever chance they have to retain power in 2023. And FYI, your sly exaggerated understatement of less than "1,000 pastors" is contradicting your very logic, because those less than 1,000 pastors have millions of congregation who are citizens spread across the country and whatever affects their Church affect the congregation. So they have a right to be heard. And next time, employ a better statistician because there are hundreds of thousands of clergymen, if not millions in this country, not to mention other religions. Don't just pull up unintelligent figures from the wind 2 Likes |
| Politics › Re: Osinbajo: Concerns About CAMA Can Be Addressed Through Ammendments by Openbusiness: 7:01am On Aug 28, 2020 |
techmo:And you think Amendment is a simple or automatic process? The solution for now is for Bubari to announce and sign an executive order for the suspension or non-implementation or no enforcement pending the time. Because amendment will take a long time. Has to pass the chambers again, they have to deliberate again, send to Senate, those ones too will do their own, before getting to Buhari. Any issue in between and the process is back to square one. 3 Likes |
| Autos › Re: Buy Your Cheap Brand New 2020 Cars Here by Openbusiness(op): 12:52am On Aug 28, 2020 |
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| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 11:53pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Simeonjoe1:Do you know the most powerful "secret" weapon the Soviets had during WW2 that helped them turn over the war and start winning after an initial string of huge losses? Crypotologic code breakers that were provided by the Allied forces, especially America. America had a special intelligent unit of over 10,000 code breakers that were intercepting and decoding most of the German military communication and instructions from Berlin. They would then send the info to Stalin in Moscow and that was how he started recording major victories in the battle, because they countered all the German offensives and the Germans were stunned wondering how the Soviets knew their every battle plans, at a point they concluded they must be a spy in Germany working against Germany. That was how come America also was able to avoid heavy casualties among their own troops because they knew where to avoid and when and where to strike because they had codebreakers and Germany didn't know their Morse codes were being decoded. So American participation in the war was the tipping point that tipped victory to the side of the allies. 1 Like 1 Share |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 11:36pm On Aug 27, 2020*. Modified: 11:55pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
BornRicch:Yes, the freezing -40 degrees weather that came around helped the Soviets withstand, recover and win the battle of Stalingrad. A battle they had almost lost completely. The Soviets lost over 1 million troops in that encounter. The entire war wasn't fought in extreme cold of snow, just some parts of the war that fell during winter season. And it helped the Soviets no doubt because they were used to that and were prepared and had enough supplies. But Germany had a problem getting supplies to their troops because of the terrible weather. Visibility problems for their aircrafts bringing supplies, equipment failures, weapons problems. So yes, it's true, that aspect was well documented. It saved the Soviets in the battle of Stalingrad. It is widely said that assuming the Soviets lost that battle of Stalingrad, Moscow would have fallen. However, see, let me tell you, the saving grace of the Soviet Union was that they had a crazy dictator Joseph Stalin, who by all means was just as much as crazy a dictator as Hitler and didn't care how many lives he had to sacrifice to make a stand off. At a point Stalin sent a bitter message to the allied forces of USA and Britain. He told Roosevelt and Churchill that it was the Soviet Union at the receiving end of German terror and they were losing extremely huge number of troops, and that they were also the ones causing the greatest casualties to the Germans. It was partly true. He urged them to move in quickly to help them out. But the truth is most of the Soviet latter success at the battle front was because the British had found a way to intercept and decode Morse code communication of the Germans from Germany to the war front, so they knew most of their plans. That technology breach was another saving grace for the Soviets that helped them to stand their ground after initial major losses at different battles. War is not a single fight. War = battle + battle + battle + .......battle. It is a compilation of battles. There were many battles in WW2, many highs and lows on both sides but considering the limited military manpower Germany had, they still had the upper hand and would have defeated the Soviets. It was when they had lost millions of troops and couldn't recover the man power deficit that they began to have serious problems. And the real problem was Hitler made the mistake of dividing his forces. See the pictures, those soldiers with hands on their heads are surrendered Soviet soldiers on Soviet soil defeated by the Germans as there troops progressed into the Soviet Union. The other picture of soldiers sitting on the ground are captured Soviet soldiers, prisoners of war captured by German forces ON Soviet soil, around 650,000 Soviet troops were taken prisoners of war as the German forces advanced towards Moscow. So the battle was a volatile war, all things being equal, the Soviets were no match for the Germans, had it not been for the allied forces of USA and Britain that were pushing on the West, Hitler would have defeated Stalin. Hitler made many errors, his biggest error was declaring war against America after Japan had attacked America. His biggest error was making America an enemy in the fight. America initially had planned to remain neutral na not involve in the war directly. Had America been neutral, doing only logistics and weapons supply and materials support and not actually fought in the war, Germany would have prevailed. Of course they will lose some battles but they would have won the war.
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| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 8:24pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Simeonjoe1:President Eisenhower said: "When we flew into Russia, in 1945, I did not see a house standing between the western borders of the country and the area around Moscow. Through this overrun region, Marshal Zhukov told me, so many numbers of women, children and old men had been killed that the Russian Government would never be able to estimate the total." That was a documented live witness report of the Soviet Union after the war. The level of destruction was unprecedented. Germany showed them hell. And this is The reason everyone credits the Soviets, this was their major contribution to the war, they sacrificed millions of troops, their cities and their people, they were ready to fight to the end than surrender. France surrendered quickly. The Soviets didn't. They were ready to die till the last man than surrender. This singular act, prolonged the war. Had they surrendered, Germany would have pushed its major forces to face Britain and defeated them before America could join the fight. It was this unflinching resolve, this incredible tenacity, this stubborn courage, and unbelievable pride that the Soviets had that they refused to surrender despite all the heavy casaulties they were suffering. It was a war, so there's no way Hitler Germany won't have casualties, especially being the aggressor and invading force, a country so bold they had the mind to attack another country probably 5 or 6 times their size. Stalin sacrificed his troops. He gave an order that later turned to a famous quote when his troops were running from German forces. He gave an order that "NOT ONE STEP BACK". Germany total loss less than 5 million, Soviets lost over 20 million conservative estimate. Some put the figures around 28 million. That gives you an idea of who was losing. Had America not interfered, had America not participated to join and lead the allied forces, Germany would have won. That is the fact of the war. Hitler would have conquered Britain and conquered the Soviet Union. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 7:57pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Simeonjoe1:The country will the highest population is the country that is most likely to surrender when the war gets out of hand. Why did Japan surrender. It was not because of the casualties figures, it was the gory sight of how Hiroshima a city bubbling with life in one second was turned to a mass grave. The heat from the bomb was so intense that people's shadows formed print marks on the ground and surrounding surfaces. The horror was too much Japan surrendered. It was not because of the amount of people that died, it was the way they died. An unforgettable horror till this day. Japan of those days invaded and conquered China, enslaved them, bullied and oppressed them at will. They fought to free themselves, they lost the first attempt. It was at the 2nd attempt they won, a Japan than was weak from trying to play ball with the British. The mistake China is making now is the same mistake Japan made centuries ago, thinking they had arrived because of the little tech advancement they had gained, they wanted to start claiming ground outside of their territories and oppressing surrounding countries like China. And it led them to a confrontation with America that pushed them to attack Pearl Harbor, which sparked the war and led to Japan being turned to a permanent puppet of the West, till today. They don't even have any aim in life again other than to follow the United States and do their bidding. China is towing that same path. It will soon clear for their eyes. Let them just make the mistake of bombing any US military ships in the Indian Ocean. That will be the beginning of their end.
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| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 7:22pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Simeonjoe1:America did not contribute to the defeat of Hitler, America caused the defeat of Hitler. Hitler had taken over the major power blocs in Europe already. Hitler first conquered Poland, then went on to conquered Denmark, Norway, Belgium, Holland, Luxembourg, France (as powerful as France was, it was a quick and easy defeat), Greece etc. The next major remaining target was Britain and the Soviet Union. Britain was struggling and they knew their defeat was imminent. Winston Churchill was sending SOS to America to come and save their lives. The Soviet Union believed in the population of their army would help them against the Germans and they believed Hitler would not dare try to attack them. But Hitler had his eyes on the Soviet Union. Hitler was fighting on 2 sides, trying to conquer Britain and trying to conquer the Soviet Union. Hitler was winning on both sides and progressing deeper into their territories. Italy was allied to Hitler and Mussolini was pushing the fight for Hitler on tbe British end, while Hitler concentrated on the Soviet side. America was still busy with Japan. And couldn't join the fight. Britain Churchill was begging America for dear life. Before America came allied forces of France, Luxembourg etc about 5 countries or so. Hitler defeated them like babies. So they were no match for him. It was when America finished beating Japan black and blue, they deployed troops and fighter planes to join the fight. American airforce is a major game changer in any war. Their airforce pounded Hitler troops, their ground forces joined with Britain to form a new version of allied troops led by America. Hitler started suffering major casaulties. When the loss was getting too much on the British side, Hitler withdrew some troops from the side fighting the Soviet Union side, so that be can cope with the American forces, that was the ERROR that cost him the war and the error that saved the Soviet Union who were at their last stand trying to protect Moscow their capital from being conquered by Hitler and the Soviet Union would have fallen. Hitler killed over 20 million Soviets, that's to show you how much they were losing. America won the war for Europe. That's why they queue behind America like puppets till today. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 6:58pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
dermmy:You're the one talking propaganda, no single fact. You said America was bombing Vietnam indiscriminately? Someone is fighting war, you say they are bombing indiscriminately. You are very funny oh. You could have asked them to take permission from Vietnam before bombing them na. Mtchwwwwwww! America deployed nearly 600,000 troops to Vietnam at the peak of the war. Most of the troops were on ground. It was not like it was only an aerial assault the way you make it to seem. Did anyone stop Vietnam from flying their own planes? Nerly 600K troops deployed, America lost less than 60,000, or less than 10%, that's not a bad statistics on their side. In short, it an excellent statistics, considering that they whey fighting on enemy soil. They flew to Vietnam, fought them in their own backyard, beat their ass back to front, killed over 3 million of their population, both civilian and Military casualties, only lost about 60K soldiers in the process and you don't think that is a victory? Ok, let Vietnam try and do a rematch, let them attack another American naval base and let's see maybe they will manage to even kill 1000 troops this time around while they lose like 40 million and their whole country is wiped out. I'm sure you will still say Vietnam won because Vietnam still exists in the history books  Even Iran that gave announcement before hand and gave notice so that America can play along and act the movie script and withdraw, and they do a ceremonial film trick attack and bombing to make it look as if they retaliated the killing of their general. They bombed an empty base that most critical assets have already been moved for them to act the file and everyone do act 2 scene 1 and life continues. Why didn't they do a real bombing like America bombed their most powerful general to dust. They had to identify the guy with pieces of the hand with ring in the finger. America bombed the guy to hell and till today everybody shut up and continue their normal business, Iran do small film trick and shut up. Let them mess with America and see hell. And talking about war, war is not good, there is a lot of horror involved no matter how civilized the country is. It is always a horrific experience. The civil war in Nigeria, did you know the history? Do you know the horror and atrocities committed by troops on both sides? So war is always an ugly situation. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 6:22pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Simeonjoe1:You underestimate the American Spirit and their thirst for freedom. Do you know how many British soldiers who were on the British colony in the New World that died because they wanted to be free from their own government oppression? Go read and learn about American history very well. They were formerly British citizens living in the Colony of the Red Apache Indian territory, which was the New World that had just been discovered. The British conquered the Apache Indians and set up their Colony there. And you had British soldiers and citizens living there. It was this same people that would later revolt against British government and its Queen and declare a new Country called America all because of TEA TAX. They fought against their own Government that send reinforcements to and reclaim and take over the colonies back. Thousands of them died and they killed tens of thousands of British forces. At the end, the British backed off and let them have their new country America. It was the former colonies that made up the States that form America and they got some states from the French and Mexicans. It is upon this spirit of freedom that nation was forged, their Constitution was forged. When you understand this, you will understand the power of American unity, once they unite, nobody can defeat them. All that internal fighting, just let any external enemy attack them and give them a reason to unite and put aside their difference and then you will see the mighty dragon rise from the Ocean that swallows other countries for breakfast. Don't ever say or think America can't stand to have casualties. They will endure it if there is a cause they are fighting for. They do not joke with their freedom, they are ready to die because of it. When Osama bombed America with hijacked planes. And the Bush Government blamed Saddam Hussein for it, did Americans not support the invasion and toppling of Saddam? Did they not support the hunting down of Osama like a dog, they chased the fool everywhere, he was hiding under rocks in a mountain couldn't live a normal life again, and eventually when he thought the heat is over after over a decade and went to City life, they tracked him down to his rabbit hole and blew his head to hell. The only time Americans started complaining about the war in Iraq was when it was clear that the Bush Government was lying about WMD and Saddam never had such weapons and the chemical stockpile he had before had already been destroyed before the US invaded. So the war was a political opportunity set up to effect regime change nothing more. Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with the Twin Tower and Pentagon bombing. They set him up and pushed him under the bus. That was when the Americans started complaining that the war was wrong and they should pull out and costing unnecessary expense and troop losses. Do you think if any country in this world actually attacks America, the American people won't support their govt and their troops to retaliate in the harshest way possible? Do you think US military system is like Nigeria? Many Americans will volunteer and rush to go and enlist if an enemy force attacks them, they won't mind to die, and won't rest until they destroy that enemy completely. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 5:51pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Simeonjoe1:You still don't get it. War is measured by casualties and damage caused. America was the tipping point for the WW2 victory. Germany was pounding the Soviet Union badly, dealing them heavy blows of defeat battle after battle after battle. Their troop's morale was at an all time low, and it is documented that Soviet troops started fleeing from German forces. Germany was well positioned to win that war. They had the means to do it, they were more advanced than the Soviets. Remember, it was Germany that invaded the Soviet Union. And they fought their way up to the point the were about to conquer Moscow for the final battle. In fact, the final battle where the turn around started, Berlin was already marching troops towards Moscow, the Soviet capital. At that period, America was busy fighting with Japan, and the support they had been providing for Europe was funding and weapons and logistics, they had not began bombing Hitler. It was after they defeated the Japanese, that they started flying troops and war planes to aid Europe to defeat Hitler. America bombed Hitler to defeat. He couldn't cope fighting the American reinforcements on one side and fighting the Soviets on the other end. That was the turning point of the battle that saved The Soviet Union. If Japan had kept the USA busy a little while longer, The Soviet Union would have fallen to Hitler. That's why the Soviet Union had huge casualties compared to Germany. They wey losing the war. America saved them. The Soviet Union was no match for Germany. This is the fact of the war. So casualties matter. A weaker side can never inflict greater damage or casualties on the stronger side. Which war does that happen? The Soviet Union was just lucky for the timely intervention of America. America saved Britain and the Soviet Union. |
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| Sports › Re: Lionel Messi Wants Neymar To Follow Him To Manchester City by Openbusiness: 3:38pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
| If Messi and Neymar combine with the kind of good defence Man City has, they should just change the name from Premier League to City League. Na bad defence dey kill Barcelona, in short, bad is an understatement. Useless defence. Imagine 8 goals, but the same Bayern could only struggle to score 1 against PSG. Defence has always been their albatross in recent times, daz y Messi dey vex comot. 107 Likes 4 Shares |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 3:31pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
dermmy:Which mission was accomplished? The idea of North and South Vietnam is norhing but a construction to reflect the political leaning of those who were align to US pattern of life. In reality, Vietnam is Vietnam, nothing like North and South. Majority favored Communism, some favored Capitalism. The people who favored Communism did a coup that overthrew the other side. America was fighting to support and protect those who favored Capitalism while Russia and China were backing the other side. What brought America to fight was the US ships that those Communist Vietnamese attacked and destroyed. And more than 3 million Vietnamese in the North where the Communists were concentrated died because of their attack on US troops there. America pulled out of the war because there was nothing they had to gain from Vietnam to be spending their military resources to keep it. America can't and won't force a country with guns and bombs to accept Capitalism. Vietnam was not worth fighting for. But before they left, America made sure they took their pound of flesh. In any war book, in any country, in any civilization, 4 million deaths will always be a loss to 60,000. So keep consoling your self that nearly 4 million deaths don't matter. And they suffered for it. Where is Vietnam in the world today? If not for corruption, a country like Vietnam will be washing Nigeria's toilet. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 2:59pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Investnow2017:My Chairman, you will live long. They are not presenting facts to back up their claims. They are just throwing imaginary stories that they cook up from imagination or elsewhere. Imagine someone here asking me why did America lose to Vietnam if they are a super power. Vietname lost almost 4 million people in that war + serious damage to their country infrastructure from plenty bombings, their country was turned to a slaughter house. America soldiers that died is just about 60,000 troops. Yet in his small mind it was America that lost the war and Vietnam won the war. You lose about 4 million of your own people and manage to kill 60,000 people of your enemy, is that how to win a war? Mtchwwwwwww! America "cries" more than Vietnam about the war not because they lost. But because in their eyes, 60,000 American lives lost is more valuable than 4 million Vietnamese lives lost. America values its citizens even in death. Can any country attack America soil and kill 4 million people and that country still exist on the World Map? They will have been bombed to hell and bombed out of existence and erased from this world. 1 Like |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 2:51pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
dermmy:You people just keep believing and accepting the lies that America haters dish out without verifying or confirming what is fact from what is fiction FACT: America DID NOT loose the Vietnam war FICTION: America lost Vietnam war Where was the Vietnam war fought? In Vietnamese soil, outside of America. To understand and decide who WON and who LOST. It is important to know what the casualties figures on both sides is. I mean, this is a matter of war. In war, the side with the biggest casualties and biggest damage to their region is the real loser. Ok, how many people died on both sides? VIETNAM CASAULTIES: it is estimated that about 2 million Vietnamese civilians + 1.1 million North Vietnamese soldiers + 250,000 South Vietnamese soldiers DIED! AMERICA CASUALTIES: it is estimated that 58,000 U.S soldiers DIED. Not to mention major damage Vietnam suffered in their country that made nearly 3 million Vietnamese run to America. No single damage on America soil, no single civilian died in America. So please come and explain to the world, How is it Vietnam that WON the war? In what way did they win? 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 2:32pm On Aug 27, 2020*. Modified: 6:38pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Simeonjoe1:See ehn, me I love these kinds of conversations because it gives everyone a chance to rub minds together and learn and exchange information that will benefit everyone including me. Nobody is an island of knowledge. So I appreciate the knowledge you're sharing. Talks like this might get controversial sometimes and you might get to see gbas gbos from different participants and different angles. But for me it's nothing personal, my own gbas gbos highest na joking level or criticism, and no major insult or slamming that is meant to shame or bully or suppress anybody. we are just debating issues. Now back to topic, yes, Russia and China have hypersonic missile technology, it is not a claim. It is a fact. But America has it too, and more than that America has developed hypersonic NUCLEAR missile technology. So there is no technology that Russia has that is alien to America. The best missile defense system in this world is the iron dome missile defense system. Only Israel has it. That was the main technology they used to stop the hundreds of rockets Hezbollah fired into Israel and the reason Hezbollah is no longer too active in pursuing that method again because all the hundreds of millions of dollars used to make those rockets just wasted without killing a single Israeli. Later, the best rocket attacks from terrorists under the iron dome being deployed only caused 4 deaths. How was it possible? The terrorists fired hundreds of rockets at the same time and the iron dome could not intercept very short range missiles quick enough. So basically, short range very close range missiles are the only weak point of the iron dome so far. But for long range ICBM, no single one can escape. The iron dome is Israeli technology but America helped Israel with funding and support to turn the paper to reality with agreement that Israel will share the technology with America. So, in other words, America has the iron dome technology too. Have they built any to use so far. No, America has not deployed any iron dome missile defense system because the current missile defense systems in place across the world (that you are saying is not capable) is more than sufficient to handle any incoming missiles threat. All ICBM missiles approaching USA from enemy States or regions can only be long range/ medium range. And they will be intercepted and blown out of the sky either the the GMD or worst come to worst hypersonic fighter jets will be deployed to stop it. The fastest hypersonic missile is 2.8 mach speed, made by Russia, the fastest jet manned by a human being is 3.2 mach speed, the SR 71 which was built by America but later decommissioned because it was too expensive to maintain and unnecessary since there was no major threat that they need it for. But as the threats are starting to show up, America is already building the SR 72, will be commissioned by 2023, which is even going to be a monster and the biggest beast at 6 mach speed, that will rule the skies and make even Russia to fall back in line as a boy to America. It's not for decoration that America has the biggest military budget in the world. America budget is more than 3 times the military budget of China and Russia combined. The real sleeping giant in the World is America who are held back their own belief and Constitutional democracy, the sleeping giants who as autocratic as they may seem sometimes, are still the bastion of civilization and human rights, and it has made them soft over the years. Had America being a Communist country with no regards for human rights and total autocratic rule like China, I can bet you that China will have been a US colony and Chinese people would have been picking cottons, building roads, infrastructure and been the domestic slaves of Americans like Black people were. The world is just lucky that the Americans of today are not as brutal as their ancestors; and lucky that the brutal no-nonsense American ancestors didn't have the kind of technology the America of today has; and lucky that the America of any generation past or present or future is not interested in conquering nations and countries like the British, Russia, France, Japan's etc of this world. Their only interest in being a super power is to protect themselves from oppression and create an environment of prosperity and peace. Despite their atrocities to Black people in the era of slavery, America is the sanest and most civilized super power this world has ever seen. In the history of nations that attained global power, no country has ever stayed within its own borders without trying to enslave those around them or take over other people's countries to enslave it. America has never done so. The British did, the Russians did, the French did, the Romans did, the Persians did, the Israelites did, the Arabs did etc......and definitely the Chinese will do it if they had the chance. Who are the countries in this world that have invaded China and subdued them: Russia, Britain, Japan. Who is the country that helped China developed after slavery? America. China won't be the China they are today if not for America. What a stupid ungrateful country they are. And if they continue this their foolishness and arrogance, then they should be prepared to be cut down to size. 3 Likes 1 Share |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 12:48pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Simeonjoe1:Underestimate? You are a bloody joker. Who is China in world affairs. America has fought and won 2 World Wars. Who the hell is China? When America was busy laying the foundation of world dominance and global rule in World War 1, your China was busy struggling to free itself from Japanese slavery; by World War 2, your China was recovering from Japanese enslavement and feeding from America crumbs to grow and feed its population. No, you're the one overestimating China, maybe because they gave you Tecno phone, you think China has arrived. Nonsense 2 Likes |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 12:38pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
anonymous1759:Mr man follow your own advice and use your common sense. No SINGLE missile from Russia or China WILL EVER make it to American airspace talkless of landing on American soil. America has counter-ICBM defense assets deployed all across Europe, up to Russia's door step, right at the border with Kazakhstan. They have various missile interceptor defense systems outside of America territory facing up into the sky, already deployed, just waiting to catch up to any ICBM whose trajectory is facing America. Yes, Russia has long range ICBMs that can reach America. But it will never reach. This is where sense is needed. IT WILL NEVER REACH American soil. Do you think all those satellites America put in space are just watching weather changes in the atmosphere? Is it not the air the missile will pass? They will see it coming and destroy it as quickly as it was fired. China doesn't have such missile range. They are trying to build, but they don't have it. And when they have it, they will join Russia on the list of countries with ICBM that can but will never make it to American soil. But America can fire thousands of missiles into Russia or China, from close by. That's one very intelligent MILITARY STRATEGY by America, they will always bring the war to your doorstep, but you will never get to theirs. 2 major World Wars, no single one reached America soil. Maybe closest they ever got was Hawaii and Alaska, which are outlying territories, that the Japanese initial gragra caught them unawares. But they paid dearly for it. Till today, Japan is America's little beeeech. They have been puppetized permanently by America. If not for America and the West, China will still be Japan's little beeeech that they oppress and subdue and enslave at will. The only way for an enemy State to successfully bomb America is from within, and Osama showed that to the world. Hitler wanted and dreamed and hoped to bomb a major US city like New York, but that was it, IT WAS NOTHING BUT A DREAM. America is 100 steps ahead with the political and military structure they built in this world. |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 11:49am On Aug 27, 2020 |
Excuses:Don't mind them, these jokers are telling me I watch too much American movies, yet I am dropping actual verifiable real-life FACTS of American Military superiority in this world. Where's is their proof of Chinese military might that is equivalent or even close to what America has? They just argue blindly and make insults to deviate from the issues on ground. They want to equate a local champion in Asia to a real global super power like America. In which reality does that work? It won't even work in a virtual reality. Nonsense! They think because China is giving Nigeria loans and bullying some small small countries and island territories or hacking private companies to steal Western technology or talking tough makes China at par with America. America invaded Iraq and unseated Saddam Hussein, on their own, every gaddem country in this world shut up and did nothing about it. Same thing they did to Afghanistan. Everybody turned a blind eye, playing if you can't beat them join them, and they joined America. When America talks, 90% of Europe falls in line like a puppet, they might grumble sometimes, but when push gets to shove, they fall in line and queue behind America's back. Yet someone thinks China has a chance to defeat America in war. Mtchwwwwwww! Jokers ✓ Most powerful military ✓ Most global military formations or presence ✓ Most powerful weapons ✓ BIGGEST weapons arsenal ✓ Most powerful economy ✓ Most powerful allies ✓ Most advanced technology ✓ Friendly surrounding border countries (Mexico is an ally of America. They are not hostile or enemy neighbors. They work together and have strong ties. You can't even call Canada an ally of America, they are more than allies, they are like twin brothers, that's how deep their solidarity and friendship runs. Does China have any of these things? Mtchwwwwwww 1 Like |
| Foreign Affairs › Re: China Fires 'Aircraft-Karrier Killer' Missile In Warning To US by Openbusiness: 11:19am On Aug 27, 2020 |
marvin906:F35 is crap For ur small mind, u think u have said something wise bah..... mtchwwwwwww |
let's remove the impart of the soviet union from war...
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