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MuttleyLaff:
"O tun ni dan iru ẹ, eleyi wo mọ" Oya, try these three direct, simple and easy for size and be stunned questions about the scriptures then openmine:

1/ What was the reason given by Lot, for refusing and/or not allowing those wicked and cruel men of Sodom and Gomorrah have gay sex with the angels when they attempted gang raping the angels who had an appearance of human beings, as in, men?
2/ Did Lot say: "Oh no, please you cant dont that. No, men sexing men? Haba guys, God doesnt want men sexing men nau, abeggy dont do that. Shoo! shoo!!. Go away please, ẹ dakun, ẹ jọr. Ẹma ko ba mi. Please I beg you, dont get me into trouble", hmm?
3/ You would expect Lot to say to the guys that God doesnt approve of men sexing men, so they shouldnt consider doing it with these angels, wouldnt you openmine, hmm?

Watch, as the usual other posters, dive for cover, burying heads in sand

Why are you so predictable Muttleylaff?
You question is in no way related to the issue at hand!
More like a diversion that can only be done by a prevaricator!
I don't need evasive questions!
We all need answers!
You said you would provide FACTS AND KNOWLEDGE to buttress your claim about God seeing nothing untoward about homosexual acts!
You are the owner of the thread,we are the ones that should be asking the question!
No more prevarication Muttleylaff

MuttleyLaff:
dont seem to get it sha openmine. I said I am not afraid unlike you, to mention anybaga, especially whenever, if and when I choose to do so. No one has a moniker copyrighted on Nairaland, to be laying down rules on them. I can mention monikers, as many times as I feel like, especially if I am not scared of who uses what moniker ID. Let whoever is aggrieved they are mentioned, come beat me at my house. I'll pay the taxi fare, to my home and return.
cc EmperorHarry

Well unlike you,I respect people's opinion of being left out from a conversation esp when they are constantly insisting on it!
But you are so determined to display the puerile side of you! Pathetic!
Maturity is not by age ohh Muttleylaff!

MuttleyLaff:
Two posters, OkCornel and openmine raring to get shocked when confronted with more facts, some knowledge, education, questions and fyis. Two for the price of one. Must be one of my usual lucky and blessed days. Maybe I should play the national lottery. You aint going to win it, if not in it, some say

I do hope you know the highlighted MUST be closely accompanied by SCRIPTURES and not your digressive and ponderous posts with little or no trajectory!
As long as this issue pertains the scriptures,you are already on a nose-dive!
However,am waiting to be 'stunned' by you dishing out of scriptures to prove 'God sees nothing untoward about homosexual deeds' AS USUAL

MuttleyLaff:
Oh would it be the same participant, who was that annoyed at you, was asking you, how old sef are you, hmm?

Would it be the same participant, who said to you:
"In 807 posts on 28 pages you have spent your own time talking about poo debating where to put it and according to who, do you think it says something about you" hmm?

Is it the same participant who doesn't know that, what one man sees as poo, is what another man sees as potpourri and treasure erhn. Is it the same participant, who doesnt realise that poo that he is indifferent to, sooner or later finds its way to back to discomfortably haunt him. You try holding poo in, say for 3 days long and with a straight face, then you'll know what I am talking of.

The same budaatum hmm, who doesnt know that I will be debating poo, as long as consenting SSA adults in a strictly monogamous, kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, unharmful and committed life long until death do them part relationship are being bullied, beaten, shamed, abandoned, rejected, scared for their lives, put to death etcetera. It is a fundamental human rights issue and will do with debating. It says a lot about kindness, justice and compassion to your neighbour, your fellow human being.

When you call out someone who has reminded you of not being mentioned, be prepared to face the person rather than allow me take the fall for it!
You don't need to mention the person....Quit this puerile games!

MuttleyLaff:
I am not scared of nobody, I am scared of no man, so I helped called out his name, for sake of any wondering who you're refering, since you chickenly couldnt bring yourself to outrightly ention his moniker ID

openmine, do you remember Ted Haggard? Do you remember the depth of his hypocrisy? Being cold dead hypocrite in every way? Preaching vile hatred against gays, I guess was preaching to himself, knowing fully well he is one? Well, like I've said, I dont disagree with OkCornel, we agree to disagree, however I reserve my right to disagree with his hypocrisy, which I've made clear what that is.

A pot calling a kettle black!

MuttleyLaff:
1/ https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/24#79630518
2/ https://www.nairaland.com/5221576/deconstructing-lies-myth-consensual-adult/24#79631067

[s]I'll try and get time to response to those two above openmine URL link posts. I have never seen an elephant fly but two post took the biscuit. He was writing like he was trying to cram too much rubbish into a bin bag, like trying to get huge bags of rubbish quashed into a rubbish bin. Instead of him to read more, do the research, he wouldnt and didnt, so opened himself to displaying such ignorance and embarrassing himself by just talking and typing off the top of his head[/s]

[s]I thought openmine was only a prude, didnt realise it gets better, he lives a sheltered bubble life. His above #1 post, I am to response to just proves it[/s]

Bring it on Muttleylaff!
I have your time today!
Was thinking of chilling from this thread based on an advise from a participant whom you annoyed but for you,i will take an exception after this latest comment!!
While complying your host of debris,dont forget to insert scriptures while making your ridiculous claims!
Am fully waiting and ready!

budaatum:
The 'milder ways' seemed not to be your stroke, but it never was my business. Sorry.

okay

budaatum:
It isn't. I just could not help wonder out loud why a mind as sound as yours would spend it talking about poo so long.

Kindly accept my most sincere apology.

Different strokes for different folks bro
Though your concerns could have been processed in a milder way...but no probs...we are good!

budaatum:
In 807 posts on 28 pages you have spent your own time talking about poo debating where to put it and according to who, do you think it says something about you?

Take responsibility for your own open time!

Hmmm...guy this transferred aggression does not work with me ohh
Yeah am debating poo according to you...so? how is that your business? Or how i use my time here?

i know i had referred to you before and that was in the past but not today!
I wasn't referring to you and you are not the only one that was cc'ed that complained or warned to muttleylaff!
Direct your complaints and annoyance to muttleylaff who mentioned you not me!

You are not the centre of the world so please don't push it that far okay?
Thanks

MuttleyLaff:
Oh c'mon now openmine, how many times do I have to tell you, erhn? I am a one man Mopol, Billy-No-Mates. I have no pals as you can see I am alone.

As per OkCornel, I only laid heavy on him, for nothing other than being a hypocrite, trying to pull on me something he doesn't and wouldn't tolerate. OkCornel and I go way back, he knows there's nothing personal in it, that I was fighting fire with fire, that's all.

As for budaatum, he always at times gets hold of the wrong end of the stick. I am not scared of him

Shey you are the one that called this buda's name and now he thinks I did!
Why do you like bringing problems for others?

As per bro Okcornel,
why must you have issues with someone who disagrees with you?
Is it compulsory that one must always agree with you?

Mopol kor batallion ni

budaatum:
How old are you? Can you stop baiting him with your false reps of buda please.

Buda what's your own nah?
Did I call your name or did I cc you like Muttleylaff does?
There are so many of his pals that refused to 'pick his call'...
Abeg take am easy ohh....no be fight

freeze001:
Ah! I don nearly forget madam BBOG! She has so faded! She think say na Jona the gentleman... She hasn't even troubled herself to champion anythng for women and girls in the Southern/Eastern region, our women and girls are constantly being attacked, raped, kidnapped and even killed by herdsmen daily yet she was forming Chibok girls lover! Hypocrisy sha....

MuttleyLaff:
My dear, you out of everyone should be the first to know from Bible reading and studying that, its that single one that matters, count and isn't at all a wasted or wasteful effort. Anything to have the chance to smell the gates of heaven is not wasteful attempt.

I am quite sure you haven't read anyone proselytising on this thread, so your disciple grabbing is just yet another of your usual pitiful sight of clutching at any available straw in sight.

Eyah ema binu......
So why all those long explanations that you refer to as 'short posts' if not to convince him like you did for Okcornel before he refused and you went all bashful on him!
You did the same for so many of your atheist pals who deserted you esp one who warned you not to mention him again!
Na who no know muttleylaff schemes

una good morning ohhh
This will be next level protests and an eventual next level 'arrests'.....
If any one is in denial,go and ask Madam oby!

MuttleyLaff:
EmperorHarry, I am quite sure you know that some Christians spend their whole lives trying to force others to live according to their unstudied opinions and their false veneer of spirituality and over spiritualised actings.

This is why, you'll see the likes of especially TV01, then Shepherd00 and openmine closely following suit behind TV01 and most other christians/believers be claiming that two consenting adults in a strictly monogamous, kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, unharmful and committed life long until death do them part SSA relationships relationships or gay unions transgresses the male-female complementarity which God built into humans at creation

I have stuff, that if I should drop it on these guys, their legs will buckle and they fall flat on their arse from the sheer weight of it. I havent typed anything substantial yet and they already are each and everytime be screaming blue murder. The trio, TV01, Shepherd00 and openmine, just make me all the time, literally be laughing out loud, watching them go schtum or dropping facts I introduce, as if it's like I've asked them to hold on to a hot potato, even diving under the sofa, to hide from the big fat lie elephants in the room I introduce to them.

Not just enlightenment EmperorHarry, but understanding, insight, awareness and lots of nuggets of information, learning, knowledge and education will come forth from the "desconstructing the lies & myth of consensual adult homosexuality/same sex union" thread

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Talking of perspective, the fifth person, not shown anywhere in any of the three pictures above, either isnt standing on anything in the room or is not even in the room and so is not seeing anything at all, as in has no perspective.
C'est la vie, that's the life of perspective, isnt it, in jpegs forms?

EmperorHarry, dont mind these guys, homosexuality is ancient, it has been with us from time immemorial and it will be here with us, until the end of time, this side of eternity. One poster, in sifia pains, cried out in agony when I typed that in 5-15 years time, gays will be in government in Naija. No one has to be a prophet to know that. It's not sign of the times or end time things, but is just unavoidably inevitable. What was the reason given by Lot, for not allowing those wicked and cruel men of Sodom and Gomorrah have gay sex with the angels when they attempted gang raping them? Is there any good Bible student on this thread, worth his/her mettle dare answer that question, huh?

EmperorHarry, if I am given a pound for every time I've been told and assumed to be not straight on this thread, I soon be fantastiscally rich from being extremely financially wealthy and will contesting with the likes of Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Aliko Dangote, Mike Adenuga, Tony Elumelu, Femi Otedola, Cletus Ibeto, Folorunsho Alakija, Ned Nwoke, Abdulsamad Rabiu, Arthur Eze etcetera and give them a good run for their money.
Quite a few posters, on this thread, more confused than a fart let ripped out, on the production line a fan-making factory, have said, I am gay, then changed, saying I am not gay, and so they're sorry for calling me gay, but then revert back, insisting I am afterall gay. Another, said they are made to believe, I may be actively involved in these atrocious and shameless activities

With or without, the religious nature, the evidence SSA is there in the Bible and in Nature. No species has been found in nature, of course this includes human beings, that homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist or be exhibited. EmperorHarry, openmine, Shepherd00 and TV01, you wouldnt be surprised to know that, humans are the only species, known to be homophobic and discriminates against homosexual behaviour. Animals dont shun other gay animals. Animals dont police of gay sexual behavior. Animals dont punished nor ostracied each other for exhibiting gay behaviours

I disconcur that there is an apparent lack of lesbian references on this thread because in certain instances, I've introduced and used the terms homosexuals and lesbians together in my sentences separated by an oblique stroke (/), otherwise called slash. I also have had the opportunities to introduce lesbians such as Mpho Andrea Tutu-van Furth, google her up to know who her famous daddy is and Beyonce's husband, Jay-Z's mum, who happens to be another very loyal and committed in attitude lesbian, just as Mpho is. Besides all that, when I use the phrase "two consenting adults" it isnt just about homosexuals but it encompasses lesbians too.

I could type on more, but time no dey, there isnt that much time, besides, I wanted this to be a short post
cc EmperorHarry

Another wasteful attempt to eagerly grab a disciple to his fold!

EmperorHarry:
Muttleylaff,openmine,Shepherd00 and TV01.I am a liberal individual that understands what ignorance and prejudice can do to unenlightened people and the innocent victims.Sleep paralysis to the unenlightened is caused by demonic powers trying to kill one.Perhaps someone(B) is beside said unenlightened person(A) during such episodes,said unenlightened and "spiritually woke" individual(A) starts questioning the presence of the person at that moment.Let's say A has painted B in negative light prior to the incident,paranoia would make A feel this corroborates his/her suspicions and then said suspicions graduate to perceived fact and heaven forbid A is a honorary gossip, the matter spirals out of control without B the slightest bit aware of what's going on.Imagine a 6 year old being accused of possessing "demons"(for reason out of one's control) beaten,treated with cruelty and unfairly,secluded from an immediate society due to hearsay.Cats are not exempted from this darkness that engulfs the unenlighted.You can only imagine the fate of individuals adults and nonadults with SSA sexual orientation in pitch black countries like Nigeria.I only seek to know just what the bible states clearly about homosexuality so as redirect the ignorant to the only objective source of "infallible" knowledge they deem acceptable. Now if muttleylaff says he has seen the light from the sacred fire and he's lit his Olympic torch in a quest to run the marathon of enlightenment into the darkness that engulfs the ignorant and prejudiced territory of homosexuality in christianity then he should be allowed to given he has packed all he needs to complete this tedious task.
If in the end his torch is put out by the winds of irrefutable evidence,then I'd want to know just how open-minded the bible(when viewed in the context of the average christian) is towards homosexuality which TV01 and openmine have given answers to from their perspective (which represents pretty much the greater population currently) on the subject.If homosexuality is kicked against within christendom for now at least the individuals should not be seen as sinful creatures due to their sexual orientation(which mostly is out of their control by nature) and don't need to be tortured or delivered from the "spirit of homosexuality".

Please note I am straight.It's not everyone that supports homosexuality that is gay or bi.Also,due to the religious nature of the thread I refer to the bible as an objective truth and evidence for or against the subject.
I'd like state that the apparent lack of feminine opinions or lesbian references on this thread makes it kinda gay....

...Just kidding

If one is lighting and carrying a proverbial 'olympic torch' in a so called darkness(as you allege),he should ensure he has the right 'resources'(base or foundation) to be certain that the torch will not be dampened by a 'mere wind' along the way!

Like i have told you,there are more than 25 scriptures that reveal a man and a woman union as acceptable and welcome to God!
However,its taking the OP 'centuries',lies and twisting of scriptures to offer just one scripture to validate his claims!

The scriptures are explicit and unambiguous about a UNION/RELATIONSHIP/MARRIAGE between a MAN and a WOMAN that is strictly monogamous, kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, unharmful and committed life long until death" which is "ACCEPTABLE AND PERMISSIBLE to God",hence whoever intends to convince me must do so with scriptures and not his own concocted narratives!

His latest goof which is the scripture of 1 john 4:16 as an attestation of God ordaining homosexual acts is an audacious encapsulation of a desperate prevaricator who is only interested in winning a religious argument and priding himself as according to him an 'awakener'!

.....Am no carrier of bad news but believe me,as long as he uses the SCRIPTURES as a foundation of his arguments,his hypothesis will keep attaining a new low in nose-diving and his 'olympic torch' will get blown away by a mild hurricane!

MuttleyLaff:
I wasnt hesitant and unable to summarize any long-winded postulation(s), I actually threw quite a lot of detail, except for the kitchen sink, in there, in that post to EmperorHarry. I hope, unlike you he appreciates it.

You found my comment "God sees nothing wrong with homosexual acts" hilarious, you had to grin at it. You even claimed that what a pathetic situation I've dug myself into, and cheesy cheesy smiled after that, well fyi, truth is stranger than fiction, is all I'll say.

Tbh, I've so far learned that the truth doesn't always set you free, people prefer to believe prettier, neatly wrapped up lies. Also that the truth, being tasted, is too much of a bitter pill to swallow for some fundamentalist and over spiritualised Christians

openmine, truth is strong enough to overcome all human sophistries, it draws strength from itself and not from the number of like votes, obtained in its favour from writing up a self servicing post like the one immediately above you wrote.

You are a killjoy, though I've said earlier that you're prude, fyi, holding balls, is a human being sexual behavior, it's a sexual stimulation act done, at the beginning of a sexual encounter that serve to build up sexual arousal, sometimes in preparation for sexual intercourse or any act meant to bring about sexual pleasure and ultimately orgasm. Put it this way, it's part of what's called foreplaying.

Now share for the education of all. I dare you to, what is despicable in two consenting adults in a strictly monogamous, kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, unharmful and committed life long until death do them part SSA relationships make out or loving each other especially done in the privacy and comfort of their home, hmm?
What particularly is it they do, that you lay your fingers on, that's deserving this your so much hatred and contempt, hmm? Triple please, tell. No holds barred, take no prisoners, tell it like it is, and like I do openmine. Please, I'll crawl over broken bottles to know specifically what is the evil in SSA acts, want to know what devil's plan is, what all this confusion nonsense of the devil is about and means. HBO, that for you means, help a brother out. I fully give you the rights, not to mince words.

Let's be honest here with each other and stop deceiving ourselves, you are unequivocally disinterested in the considerations of the facts and have in all this matter, no iota of love for truth. Now what I perceive of you and quite a lot of the others, is none of youse have any understanding of the importance of telling the truth. Lies have become necessary for each and every one of youse because you've found the truth too difficult to believe

The main issue at hand, easily can be worked out or be deduced from mere reading what the subject heading title is of the thread, but you my dear overzealous and dedicated heckler fan, have only being consistent in not wanting to allow the thread to expose all the extraordinary lies, so people can distinctly see them for what they are. You havent drifted from your dogged determination and persistent attempt to prevent people discovering the truth about each and everyone of these serious deliberate mistakes, calculated lies and crime. You have never commented on the thread's main issues, the case in points and other big fat lie elephant(s) in the church room intermittently so far shared and discussed on the thread. The intermittency being thanks to your regular distraction and derailing the thread with your carefully and well planned disparaging remarks. Whilst everybody were invited, including you openmine, in to the boat and to row, you arent rowing, you arent doing nothing like that, but you've being busy drilling holes in the boat, so to capsize and/or sink it, thinking that no one's noticing, no one is looking at you performing your monkey tricks or seeing you.

I do not inconsiderately take ownership of what is not legally and rightfully mine. Every believer, and more so, one on his/her mettle, is a moG or woG. There is the backing of the scripture for this, so there is no covetousness, in being known as a moG.

I already have introduced on this thread, the existence, facts and truth of "what UNION/RELATIONSHIP/MARRIAGE that is strictly monogamous, kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, unharmful and committed life long until death" is and also did similar to the one that is "ACCEPTABLE AND PERMISSIBLE to God". These have all and each, been presented, as a basis for a candid, heart to heart, truthful and straightforward reasoning and not afraid to call a spade a spade discussion, but what came out of it. Nothing, because you and other christians, bend down with arse raised up, hanging out to the sky and bury heads in the sand, not wanting to talk about it and them.

God is love,
and those who live in love, live in union with God
and God lives in union with them."
- 1 John 4:16

Love is a blessing, and is from God. Right openmine? Well, two adult grown men and they in fact, are consenting adults in a strictly monogamous, kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, unharmful and committed life long until death do them part SSA relationships, are doing no one, nobody, not anyone, any harm.

You need to chill, calm down and relax, especially when or if you dont know of and cannot point out, any evil, anything bad, and anything wrong that is going on with them and in their romantic act, of showing and expressing love to each other, being partners in a life long relationship.

What are they being accused of or painted guilty of sef, openmine? The love, loving, is for real and mutual, it's a love for each other. God is not vexed nor perturbed over that. God is love, and whoever abides in love, abides in God, and God abides in him and him too.

The more that you read moonlight stories or garrulous write-ups, the more things you will know and learn about openmine. Sorry, but we all know that, lies gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on, so said Winston Churchill. It's just a matter of, extraordinary lies, require extraordinary garrulous write-ups to counter the extraordinary lies
cc EmperorHarry

As i quite assumed correctly,that there is a potentiality for a lion to go through a needle than for a barefaced fabulist like you to avoid being so predictable

Truth is founded on mode or base of inclination!
An atheist’s belief system is founded on its mode of inclination!
A believer in Christ bases its inclination on the word of God!
Any thing aside that is straying from the scriptures and acting as the antichrist!

Revelation 22:18-19 New International Version (NIV)
18 I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. 19 And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.

If indeed your truth must be validated and justified, why is it taking you ages to justify your laborious 'truth' about 'God seeing nothing untoward about homosexual acts'?
Your truth is found no where in the scriptures which makes your claims questionable and perfidious!

First of all,you as a believer who claims to worship God in spirit and in truth should be the last person to ask such an outrageous question about what is despicable in two men indecorously locked together and trying to do what exactly? Have sex?

sexual intercourse
sexual contact between individuals involving penetration, especially the insertion of a man's erect PENIS into a woman's VAGINA, typically culminating in orgasm and the ejaculation of semen.

So what transpires between a man and another man?
Will the man pass his joystick to an "imaginary vagina" of the other man?
Or how do you know that they can play with each others 'balls' if you haven’t 'viewed' such or conceived such thought?
Do you see how benighted,vacuous and non compos mentis such unfortunate thoughts are?
If an atheist can come up with such deeds as enjoyable, then I will be disgusted but not a believer in God’s word who knows the only approved and welcomed sexual intercourse is between a MAN and a WOMAN as ordained and welcome by God in the scripture!
Seriously,it saddens me when a "believer" holds strongly to the schemes of the devil....thereby making a complete mockery of the body of Christ!


Matthew 19:4-6 New International Version (NIV)
4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them MALE and FEMALE,’ 5 and said, ‘For this reason a MAN will leave his FATHER and MOTHER and be united to his WIFE, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

This is the union God ordained from the beginning to the present and is contained in the scriptures!
This is my stance which is simple,unshaken and unapologetic!
If there was or is an ADDITIONAL union aside that of a man and woman, you may do well to show such in the scriptures which you hapless claim to believe in or forever keep quiet and stop slandering the word of God!

We have had such discus about this narrative but I wont mind saying it again for the sake of posterity!
You chose a title for your thread which to outsiders would sound like one picking out a narrative from an author of a book or half-baked postulations from an unrepentant pervert to substantiate your argument!
However, you picked your inclination basing it from the scriptures but used an entire 25 plus page trying fruitlessly to dispute scriptures from others that oppose your postulations while you have so far been unwilling and unable to even give a near semblance of scripture to validate your claims ab initio!
This proves yet again that your submissions are only a reflection of the creator's disposition……a prevaricating barefaced liar!



I could not help but go through a rib-crackling moment when I saw the scripture that you used as proof of your widely written repetitions of consensual homo deeds!
This scripture if read from the start to the end is God’s love for all those who believe in him which he called his "dear friends"!
There is no place in that sentence of scripture where God ordains and accepts homosexual acts as a norm!
And to think you were asking someone to rightly divide the word but here you are trying so shamelessly and outrageously insert words that are not even there!
What more, you can also fix ‘homosexual’ where the word ‘them’ is written in that scripture…..clap for your self!
Even a layman knows that scripture was referring to those who do what is right before God!
That’s why the scripture in 1 John starts with…

1 john 4:1
Dear friends.....

John 15:15 New International Version (NIV)
15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you.

Chai this prevaricating barefaced fabulist must be in contention to replace lai mohammed.....from one lie to another lie and now to another lie!
From eunuchs to no condemnation to 1 john 4:16
This is just reprehensible esp for one who is said to be a believer in Christ shamelessly and audaciously slandering scriptures just to coin out homosexuality from 1 john 4:16?

Ofcourse God loves the world which was mainly the reason why he sent and offered his son as an atonement for our sins so that we can go and not be either guilty or continue in sin!

6 No one who lives in him keeps on sinning. No one who continues to sin has either seen him or known him.
7 Dear children, do not let anyone lead you astray. The one who does what is right is righteous, just as he is righteous. 8 The one who does what is sinful is of the devil, because the devil has been sinning from the beginning. The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the devil’s work. 9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God. 10 This is how we know who the children of God are and who the children of the devil are: Anyone who does not do what is right is not God’s child, nor is anyone who does not love their brother and sister.
1 John 3:5-10

You cannot do what is wrong the right way!
If God's plan for mankind is a union of a man and woman,who are you to deviate and insist that SS unions are permissible when you are having a torrid time getting such scriptures!


Chill and relax?
Oga prevaricator am just getting warmed up like 'al pacino in scent of a woman'!
Not now that you have started exposing yourself in a humongous manner!
I cant miss this opportunity....
When am thoroughly done with you, confessions of not planning a submission based on scriptures will surface finally!
You don’t need to ask me what I have against homos….that is what you should be asking the bible that did not give any semblance of any kind to God ordaining the union of SS!
I have actually read lengthy posts whose points are precise and definite.However,the same cannot be said about your double-minded submission that claims to have links to the bible but its creator cant find such!
Too bad!

MuttleyLaff:
openmine, would that by a twist of fate, be you in the above jpeg with the placard and wagging your finger at those two men minding their own business, erhn? They are adult grown men, you know openmine. They in fact are consenting adults in a strictly monogamous, kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, unharmful and committed life long until death do them part SSA relationships

I am quite aware we werent, but just was putting it into perspective that what is game and good for the goose, is equally game and good for the SSA relationship gander

What repetition are you accusing me of? What have I erroneously and incorrectly learned that I've repeatedly regurgitated here, hmm? Have I repeatingly been asking same questions at every available opportunity huh? Or is it, have I being grinding away using the "dripping tap" technique whilst repeating the questions instead of sticking to whatever is currently being discussed, huh? That's called subterfuge, "dripping tap" technique, is a trick or a dishonest way of trying to achieve something. OkCornel and Shepherd00 enjoy and like playing that trick, so if you are accusing me of something like that, you better be sure about it.

OK aside that, are you afterall not my dear overzealous and dedicated heckler fan ni? Do you want deny that you dont hold the coveted position and honour of being the dear overzealous and dedicated heckler #1 fan on this thread ni? openmine I am just following Bible. I am giving to you what I owe you. I am paying you respect and honor, acknowledging that you are my dear overzealous and dedicated heckler fan, that all. Check out Romans 13:7 nau, it's all in there. I've always from the beginning said, everything I type on this thread can be fact-checked, so this one is no exception and you can take it to the bank

Are you "sifially" pained, that I sound intelligible ni? Why then, what's generating this bitterness from you, hmm? It is unhealthy, if you dont know. If EmperorHarry is expecting something from me, he deems will be meaningful and useful info to him, as it crossed your mind openmine, that maybe, it means I've somehow given EmperorHarry reasons to believe in some facts, if not all, that's so far has been typed on this thread?. Is that whats terrified you? Or what exactly is the problem or cause for your dogged determination to heckle and disturb the peace of the thread sef openmine?

Whenever i peruse your irksome posts,i discover why you were obviously hesitant and unable to summarize your long-winded and interminable postulations to emperorharry!
There are some laborious comments from yours that could have been confined to just a few sentences but i guess it was your 'brilliant'(or lack of it) idea to churn many words to sound subtle to unsuspecting folks!
No wonder its still taking your 25+ pages to establish your claims that God sees nothing wrong(Untoward ) with homosexual acts .....what a pathetic situation you have dug your self into

To say that i am perturbed by what is emanating from the fetid-induced fingers of a person who farcically professes to hear from God is not only flagitious but an aberration!

For the very fact that you could conceive the unsavoury thought of two grown men making out with each others private parts as a form of copulation and audaciously equating such disgusting and heinous acts to that of a normal,natural,acceptable and God ordained sexual intercourse,contained in the scriptures,between a MAN and a WOMAN only manifests a fallacious individual who is adamant in conveying the devil's plan to confuse and manipulate those who are unrelenting to discontinue and relinquish these opprobrious and despicable deeds!

I have tried to make some rationality from your latest nauseous comments including your half-witted and inglorious pic(which makes me believe you may be actively involved in these atrocious and shameless activities) but all i keep perceiving is a 'world conformed' individual whose pattern of operation seeks to put tale of lies where there is none in the scriptures!


Atleast i can say i been consistent and transparent with my inquiry and i haven't drifted or become so evasive like yours truly!
So saying you are giving it back to me is like offering me a compliment for staying true to my stance!!
However,can the same be said about you who has been trying inefficaciously to take me off from the main issue at hand and deviate into trivial matters?


Now to your mind-numbing expressions,
"They in fact are consenting adults in a strictly monogamous, kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, unharmful and committed life long until death do them part SSA relationships"......

As a titular and self-titled 'postulator' who proclaims the word of God is the truth,what UNION/RELATIONSHIP/MARRIAGE that "is strictly monogamous, kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, unharmful and committed life long until death" is ACCEPTABLE AND PERMISSIBLE to God?

As a follow up,You can as well display scriptures that validates such acceptance from God almighty whose words you quite strongly believe in!

Is there any SS union in the scripture that has received blessings from God?

Once again....no tales by moonlight stories or garrulous write-ups!

God does not play dice - Albert Einstein

MuttleyLaff:
I know it's not so obvious to you my dear overzelous and dedicated heckler fan but the balls are part of the erogenous zones of the male body

Ah, I love it when my missus grabs me by the balls and tenderly caresses me there, it is a lovely feeling when she touches and stroke me gently there with her loving touch. Sometimes, when in the sack, she grabs my butt firmly and squeezes that too whenevr I bring her to "heaven", cloud nine at the point of orgasmic state ecstasy

Mr prevaricator am not talking about a man/woman intercourse!

MuttleyLaff:
I bet you are a one-trick pony man. It has to be missionary style, its only that or nothing. SMH. You're either a fundamentalist, just being over spiritual or both.

We are not discussing our sexual intercourse here Mr dodger!
What i do with my beloved or the style used is not a subject for discus here!

MuttleyLaff:
I think you're a prude, my dear overzelous and dedicated heckler fan, nothing to tell you apart from that.

This is the same guy who accused some one of repetition now regurgitating comments hoping that he will sound intelligible!

MuttleyLaff:
Dont your missus play with your balls ni, you too good to be true, goody-goody Pharisaical person?

How does that translate into two grown men doing that same thing with each others' balls and how do you even know that such happens?
Unless there is something you are not telling me about your 'intense advocacy' for such acts....

MuttleyLaff:
Dont mind this man ojaare, what's his business with, if this is case, what you and your until death do apart, do in the privacy and comfort of your home, hmm?
Balls afterall, are there to be played with, arent they?

What did you just say?
Jesus wept!

Shepherd00:
Ah, you didn't read when he said that? Oh.

I actually didn't read that particular post by the OP where such was said....have already seen it!

Shepherd00:
EmperorHarry. I hope MuttleyLaff convinces you that homosexuality is inclusive in God's original (even when he can not corroborate it with scriptures) and you enjoy it when a fellow man tries to play with your balls.

Just imagine his frenzy trying to pass off a lie wirhout a single scripture behind him.

MuttleyLaff, where in Isaiah did YHWH promised the homosexuals anything? Where did The Lord Jesus Christ praise homosexual activity?

All these your long posts are unnecessary, post only these two scriptures and I will clap for you now.

This op is full of comical expertise!
A fellow is pleading for a summary of his lenghty hypothesis and yet the op is still insisting that he combs through an entire 25 page thread to seek answers....abi hypothesis no get summary?

More like trying to find an 'imaginary pin in a humongous dirtbin'!

Emperorharry I wish you well in that 'gulders ultimate search'!

In a system that works effectively,match bonuses or allowances are paid before a player hits the camp!
This is to ensure that the player(s) is(are) totally committed and motivated for the task ahead!
It saddens me that this same financial issue has not been resolved by both past and present FA presidents!

Bluehill1051:
No. Car is a VEEEEEEEERRRRRRYYYYY BIG avoidable LIABILITY. U don't know that maintaining a car can cost up to 20k monthly. Fuel nko, officers wahala nko. Except he'll use it for Uber. Except that, car is a big liability. U won't save anything, it's purely luxury.
That 200K is fair. Don't go n follow advice from people that their best food is beans and corn

SultanOfAbia:
THE REAL MAN OF THE MATCH

I need ola at Liverpool

This Burundi coach tummy sha

Kanu just weak

EmperorHarry:
Is it humanity's fault that the plan was distorted after the "fall of man"? The bible kicks against fornication but not the same sex kinda fornication. I'm only asking these questions cause a person can identify as gay and be treated like the devil's twin.
The Catholic priests and nuns who are sworn to celibacy are testaments that one can do without involving in sexual acts(regardless of what they do behind the scenes) and as such identifying as gay doesn't mean one would eventually indulge in sex acts with the same sex.

Like I have said several times,homosexuality just like other sins are wrongful acts in the sight of God!

The problem or issue is when some half-clever folks think they can read the mind of God by trying fruitlessly to misquote or misrepresent the stance of God as it pertains to homosexual acts!

No personality or persons who identifies as gay is without a partner!
In fact that is what ensures that they are tagged that way!

If someone identified himself as gay,it would imply that he is only attracted to same sex partners!

You cannot indulge in homosexual acts without a partner my brother....
Hence not indulging in sex does not make you free from condemnation!

I fully comprehend that you are trying to strike a difference between the acts and just an identity!
However both work in sync!

You may hide being gay from people but what about God who knows the mind of men?

EmperorHarry:
openmine and TV01 can a "homosexual" make heaven in that such a person never had sexual activity with same sex?
We've reached an clarification that being attracted to the same sex or identifying as gay doesn't mean one is an abomination.So do gay people who don't have sexual intimacy with same sex have a place in the church? Should they be allowed to worship in peace without stigma and victimization due to ignorantly prejudiced "sanctimonious" believers?

Its like saying or believing that since you dont indulge in wrongful acts but only in your thoughts,God will definitely see you as righteous!

"Thought is action in rehearsal"

Everything about homosexuality first started with a thought before it metamorphosed into a reality!

The very thought of being attracted to a same sex is enough to imply that you will definitely find a partner and you will one day become affectionate with such partner!

These are the trail of just one thought!

This can be likened to a man looking at a woman in a seductive manner but just because you have conceived that thought implies that you will definitely have sexual actions with such lady!

You cannot be 'gay' on your own in the absence of a partner!
God sees the intent of man and he knows such thought will lead to an action one day hence,he will not permit such thought!

Remember that Jesus said that if a man looks at a lady in a seductive way,he has already committed sin because he already had such thought....

All am trying to say is that,you cannot have a place in heaven because such acts go against the plan of God for mankind!

Though like I have said,the abuse and killing of those who practice such acts is condemnable!

TV01:
From a Christian/Biblical perspective the wording of your query is inherently flawed.

The Bible does not recognise a "homosexual" as type of person. That is a category error. There is nothing like a "heterosexual either. The bible recognises male and female created sexually dimporphous, evidence by the complimentarity of their sexual/reproductive function/ality.

Caegorising people as "homosexual" is wholly a social norm. Widespread, generally accepted, hardly ever questioned. But purely social. No scientist or scientific study ever refers to humans/people as homosexual. Likewise no legal code ever recognises a homosexual as a distinct type of person. Homosexual is always qualified by the word "act".

With the correct biblical understanding in place, your question can be more readily addressed. DO some people experience SSA? Absolutely, it does not make them ontologically or functionally different from those who don't.

Is the attraction in itself a sin? Only if - excuse the seeming pun - a head is given to such lustful feelings. If they are rightly recognised as disordered and not entertained and stood against, it is not sin - just as for opposite sex lust or feelings . SS physical intimacy of a sexual nature is always sin.



TV

TRUE!