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OkCornel:
God created Adam and Eve...

Not Adam and Steve...

If Adam were gay... perhaps we could say goodbye to the human race

Shepherd00:
Are you serious? MuttleyLaff this is outright lies. If this thread is not about God being pleased, loving, approving, and tolerating SSR why then have you been using the scriptures you loaded this thread with? Why did you even mention God in this first place?
What occasioned this thread? Was it not to proof to TV01, I and the rest that God has no problem with homosex?

You made so much noise and you are still on about it, talking about the earth shaking evidences that you'd bring up to support your claims, and here you are diverting the main purpose of this thread?

Why did you refuse to respond to my thread?

I'm glad this is happening, who we really are is manifesting.

At-least am not the only one who saw the duplicity and shenanigans of Adv. MuttleyLaff!

Shepherd00:
A lesbian atheist friend o

Really? Chai

MuttleyLaff:
/\/\/\
Thank you very much my dear good sire, I shall respond back to the above and previous reply, that's aside the above, as quickly and possibly as I can. My attention is solely now on yours

Fear fear

MuttleyLaff:
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Ignore Mode ON

Oga MuttleyLaff putting "frightened mode" ON

MuttleyLaff:
*Drum roll please!: ... and the award for the thread's best liar goes to openmine

The truth always comes out one way or another and so with the four above screenshot grabs, I have exposed your subterfuge and lies against me. A liar's worst eneny is someone with a fairly good memory.

You isolated my comments from the events and points that lead up to them, you showed my comments only just to make up lies of me, misrepresent me and to mislead others by presenting them, only just as the segmented boxed stars shown above.

I knew you took my comments out of context and lifted them out, in isolation of how they came about, but what I now dont know about someone like you, is how you can tell so many barefaced fanstatic lies about me, not feel bad about it and continue to still make up further and more lies about me, like lying about what I've said, without minding how or considering the preceding circumstances behind why I said whatever it is I might have said. I dislike liars intensely, like you and what you've done, actually especially for lying, when all I was doing was keeping it real on the thread.

I have resigned myself to not again exchange with someone like you, who believes their lies about me, concocted up in their own head. You cant constantly be lying against me and expect me to remain interested in you because compulsive or pathological liars like you are, are very difficult to have an engagement with, and you've betrayed the trust, of me taking anything you anymore say on face value.

The lies didnt bothers me, it's the way you used the lies to twist matters up to suit your agenda and never felt bad about that plus aside the fact of your make up lies, it was how you showed to everyone that you are a troll and heckler here to disturb the peace and be insulting.

I wish, you ignore me, same way, I am just about after this post going to start ignoring you

# Ignore Mode ON. Poof!! Magic.
# Phew!! The unclean and lying spirit has been too long strong out in here

My apologies for the tardy riposte amigo.....
Had some stuffs to do at work...also needed to give you a befitting 'Au revoir' and relieve you of your already battered and dilapidated state of mind!
Now let me x-ray your array of cacophonous,benighted,lumbering and atrocious comments which you said was supposedly your last comment after wasting your sleepless night.
Nevertheless, i highly doubt that your already obliterated and rattled ego would prevent you from staying off my mentions!

My stance still remain unambiguous and unruffled!
Little wonder why some one acknowledged such stance....

budaatum:
Got to say, I admire the care with which you chose your words. You have nobly insisted on 'scripture', and "acts", both which stand insurmountable to God's permission, it would seem.

Muttley! I promised to tell and I'm telling you now.
Stop with the eggshells or shift!

If MuttleyLaff aka the evasive master can dispense scriptures to back his submissions,i can assure him that i will leave this thread!
However, all this guy did was try to dispute other participants who had provided clear scriptures to prove otherwise when he himself is yet to offer a single scripture to strengthen his stance or argument!

Now the title of the thread is....

Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union)

However,the title of the thread in a nutshell is God OKAYS consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union using SCRIPTURES AS A FULCRUM
(FULCRUM is a foundation or base or focal point in case he thinks am misinterpreting his words)

When i asked that his submissions be backed by scriptures,this was his assertive response;

MuttleyLaff:
SCRIPTURES are already coming on the thread from ME, more FAST and FURIOUS to come,the minute TV01 begins to answer those my first set of four easy, simple, straightforward and direct salvo questions discharged at him

That's using scriptures as a focal point to rein-force his hypothesis!
Anyone can check this on the first two pages of this thread as reference!
If he can delete his own,he can't delete the response i made to that comment!

Now,this is where the OP got his lackadaisical thread totally flawed!
Now postulations can't be made without a reference to an article or work which will be used to fortify your argument or stance!
The same applies to doctrine and scriptures!
You can't wake up one day and make postulations using God and yet can't reference a single scripture from the bible to reinforce your claims!
This is what OP said.....

MuttleyLaff:
God SEES NOTHING UNTOWARD in consensual adult homosexuality, homosexuals/lesbians and/or same sex attraction and union(s), especially one that is in, a kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, not harmful and committed life long until death do them part relationships

The meaning of UNTOWARD:unsuitable,unwelcome,inappropriate
Now in his own words,God sees nothing unsuitable or unwelcome or inappropriate with homosexual acts! (consensual or not)
Which in explicit terms,implies that God sees homosexual acts(whether consensual or not) as suitable,welcoming and appropriate!
I dont need further breaking down of NOTHING UNTOWARD

However,OP said i am a liar and i misinterpreted his words which he tagged as 'strawman mining'

Read what his said...

MuttleyLaff:
Oh please, stop the strawman mining my Ogbeni friend
You really are serious with this your straw man mining business shenanigan, erh?

For those who dont know,

STRAWMAN MINING
A strawman mining is essentially a misrepresentation of an opponent's argument by comparing a statement one's opponent has made with a false!


Now if one says that God sees "nothing untoward",which suggests that God welcomes and finds suitable such acts!
So why say that i misrepresented his own words when he was implying that God okays homosexual acts!

When he noticed that the pressure was getting intense
He coined out a witless and prosaic joke!

MuttleyLaff:
You just first, show me, in the Bible, where a decent recipe for nkwobi or isiewu is then I'll oblige you, tell or show you, where God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts in the Bible. I am more than happy to settle you with this my final, fair and generous offer. Please take it, otherwise leave it and forever stay put

Nevertheless,he finally succumbed and made a "super story" confession...

MuttleyLaff:
Listen, because I am not going to REPEAT myself, I didnt open this thread to "reel out 'SCRIPTURES' that proves that God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts!". The title of the thread is self explanatory enough, so please, get that straight. Thank you very much.

When Advocate MuttleyLaff perceived that he has been boxed into a corner,he retracted his earlier stance with a plea and a rhetorical request....

MuttleyLaff:
Ogbeni openmine, lets rewind. Wipe slate clean OK?
Now, openmine, it is a simple easy, short, direct and straightforward question. Do you have scripture(s) where God does not permit homosexual acts? As in consensual adults in a faithful trusting, kind, loving caring, long life until death do part same sex relationship, hmm?

Knowing fully well that he might crack under pressure as he always does,i kept insisting....

openmine:
You are putting too much words on this!
Or let me make it easier for you before you say you were wrongly misquoted!
God permits and allows homosexual acts..YES OR NO?

...which He finally admitted and indecorously agreed that God LOVES and PERMITS homosexual acts after accusing me of "strawman mining" claptrap....

MuttleyLaff:
You of course, know my answer is YES. I have never hidden or sat on the fence about that.

Now between me and the OP,who is barefaced and perfidious?
A liar is a deceiver,prevaricator,dishonest,and two-faced!

....and being two-faced would make so much sense with this last ploy by him to redeem his already sinking ship of double dealings...

MuttleyLaff:
I have said this before, that,at appropriate times, appropriate SCRIPTURES will be shared

This is the same guy that had earlier said he had no scripture to reel out
wahala dey...

No wonder the scriptures talked about his kind!

"A double minded man is unstable in all his ways."
James 1:8 King James Version (KJV)




I leave us to the hands of those who will read and study this thread both in the present and in the nearest future!

Once again Advocate MuttleyLaff,do you have scriptures to buttress your submissions that God loves,welcomes,permits and finds suitable the acts of homosexuality whether consensual or not?

MuttleyLaff:
I use all sorts of languages and dialects in my post. Go check my profile and the post history for proof, aside from the screengrab above, showing it never is a new thing I do, like you lied about

Dont mind him jaare, thats how crybabies star do. Like he do. "Wen, wen, wen, wen you see a star. Dis star like to talk too much, and if you vex star, star go gif you punch too." Ranchhoddas, thats how pseudo-intellectuals and bombastic persons do. Dats how star like him do.

Lack of social grace, makes some, try too hard to look smart and so start using incorrect and inapplicable big English words like echolalia neoteric

Good morning my quibble and petrified amigo
I went through some uproarious and rib-tickling moment when i read through this load of crap and the very fact that you find some words hard to discern re-enforces my belief that some pips are just 'educated illiterates'!

Oga dont denigrate and embarrass yourself if your system is having a hard time finding out the meaning of words...Google could have been your salvation!!

Repetition:
the action of repeating something that has already been said or written.
"her comments are worthy of repetition"
synonyms:reiteration, repeating, restatement, retelling, iteration, recapitulation; recital, rehearsal; informal recap; rarereprise, iterance
repeating, echoing, parroting, quoting, copying;echolalia

neoteric: Recent,new

This was the statement made in response to his dialect usage!

Oga your perennial echolalia of "strawman mining" is getting rancid and mouldy! tongue
And your neoteric iteration of yoruba dialect is a new one!
Did my uppercut responses intimidate and ultimately retrograde you into an acrolect mode?

But Mr MuttleyLaff was so terrified and went ballistic as he could not decipher the words used even after he sort the assistance of his MAC 2020
So due to his deficient assimilation, i have subserviently decided to disintegrate the word down to his level!
I no want person pikin to kolo because of simple words!

Oga your endless repetition of "strawman mining" is getting stale and old!
And your recent recitation of yoruba dialect is a new one!
Did my punch-like responses intimidate and ultimately revert you into an language mode?

Now let me attend to the other mention that is not only hysterical but a web of mendacious,ham-fisted,and an endless trail of fatuous exhibit!

Ranchhoddas:
Which kind grammar be this
Cc: KingEbukasblog

Spanish grammar

MuttleyLaff:
Dont worry about that anymore. I've found where the comments are and the contexts surrounding them, so "karamọse" bring in the benjamins, your madam and bom boy are there to look after naa

Like I thought you did, you did actually lifted my comments and isolated them from the circumstances that formed the setting for me making those comments.

I keep it real because I am not afraid to make or have enemies, but sheesh!, with you and the extent of what you've done with those your devious stunts you pulled on me, who needs enemies?

I am now putting together and presenting the the historical context of my comments you cherry-picked from, and presented in such a way to discredit me and make me appear bad. I dont know how someone can descend to this level to concoct false doubts this way, just so as to make me look less honest. Na wa ooo, all just because harmless, gentle, easy going minding their own business same sex couples' issues.

Anyway, it is well, let me continue getting this up for presentation here. "Ah mo juba" loosely translated means "I hail thou"

I have said this before, that, at appropriate times, appropriate scriptures will be shared

Oga you talk too much!
Saying that what you just posted is a load of drivel is an understatement!
When a guy denies his own words,then you know he can even deny his own name!
It took you ages to accept your very words that you put up about God Supporting homosexual acts....such person can deny his own shadow!
You always play the victims and sentiments card when you have been caught napping!
The only advise I will give you is to be careful what you say,but I doubt if you will heed to such advise since you are likely to make another gaffe in future and still deny it!
Next time look before you leap!

MuttleyLaff:
I have said this before, that, at appropriate times, appropriate scriptures will be shared

Saved for future purposes/references in case you suddenly develop another 'amnesia' while reading!!

MuttleyLaff:
Its good to talk naa.

If I may ask you what were the circumstances I had that brought up the postulation or theory. The patch theory as you put it, were content, now openmine, what was the context of those content please.

Bros you wan give person work when person get work to do abi?
Okay!
Theory is to research what doctrine is to scriptures!
You can't make a single hypothesis without the utilization of samples or researches..same is applicable to doctrines...Scripture must be seen to correspond or be in sync with scriptures to have a well defined doctrine!
A half baked doctrine like tithe payment will definitely encounter a logjam esp when scriptures are there to resist such teachings!
No scripture is of private interpretation just as an individual theory without varying researches can't stand the test of time!
What am simply saying is that postulations must have a fulcrum or base that it must stand on!
If you are making an assumption or theory using God as a base for argument,then you must access his scriptures as a baseline!
These scriptures must be simplified,comprehensive,straightforward and inspired by the holy spirit!

MuttleyLaff:
From what you've pasted up there, it comes across that the author wasnt necessarily going to spoon feed anyone, as actually was expecting them to lift things themselves, as opposed him giving them stuff on a platter, don't you think openmine?

Oga you dey find talk!
I have given you what you requested for!
Whenever you are making a postulation or theory esp one that is as controversial as yours,making your submissions and the base of your argument which is providing scriptures should be key!
Explicit and straightforward!
Even controversial topics as tithe was done in such a manner that one can view them using scriptures!
This was what I have been saying all along!
However,when you leave gaps on your patchy theory and expect people will swallow it hook,line and sinker,then you are in for such reactions!

MuttleyLaff:
Never mind, when I get behind my MAC, we'll find out

Na you sabi

MuttleyLaff:
Please do, with the context that led up to me making the comment showing also in the screen grab. Thank you

You are asking me to do what you will never do if i requested for such!
However,am not like you!
I cant place all your quotations here but i can do a trail from your apparent gloating that led to the last statement you admittedly made which confirmed my suspicions about your hesitant stance!
I have neither made any alterations and you can feel free to cross-check if the need arises!
Enjoy!!

MuttleyLaff:
SCRIPTURES are already coming on the thread from me, more fast and furious to come, the minute TV01 begins to answer those my first set of four easy, simple, straightforward and direct salvo questions discharged at him

MuttleyLaff:
The scriptural reference or backing for this, in Jesus' words, please, is or can be found in Matthew 19:12a, where Jesus stated emphatically and/or publicly said some are born that way from their mother's womb, as in from birth.

MuttleyLaff:
It is not like, as if, everything I type, can't be looked up in the Bible, if anyone wants to try prove me wrong. Do some research of your own, on everything you find me type on this thread, to find proof of what I am saying. Believers, should do heavy lifting too and dont be waiting, sitting and looking for other people to do work for them

MuttleyLaff:
God sees NOTHING UNTOWARD in consensual adult homosexuality, homosexuals/lesbians and/or same sex attraction and union(s), especially one that is in, a kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, not harmful and committed life long until death do them part relationships

MuttleyLaff:
Listen, because I am not going to repeat myself, I didnt open this thread to "reel out 'scriptures' that proves that God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts!". The title of the thread is self explanatory enough, so please, get that straight. Thank you very much.

MuttleyLaff:
I can't on my smartphone see the original URL link to my post you pasted up above. I will wait until when I get on MAC to review and prove you got everything wrong especially about the context of the content you brought up

Oga if you want i can help you screen-grab that place for you!
In-fact, let me go back and check if you have 'mistakenly' edited your own words!
I no trust you!
Even the guy dey deny him own words!
Context kor content nii
Abi you write am in greek or hebrew where you wan find context on-top wetin you write by yourself?

MuttleyLaff:
Its always people like Nodogragra4me who are cerebrally small who would see and call others they know nothing about, they haven't met, small boy.

When someone gives you a dose of your own medicine,you protest!

MuttleyLaff:
Making that statement was said in relation to the Bible verses that have been twisted to mean and say things the original text never said nor meant. Those were the scriptures that I was expecting and planned to deal with. The claims I made were against the lies, I was

Thats has been my issue with you all along!
You left the scriptures that will intro you submissions to dispute other scriptures that other held onto!
You were unable to offer no scripture to back your claims!
The ones you even managed to muster were unrelated and unconnected verses in Matthew 19:12 and Romans 8:1-2!

MuttleyLaff:
You of course, know my answer is Yes. I have never hidden or sat on the fence about that.

So its simply means that God loves homosexual acts nah
Isn't that what i said that made you say i am misinterpreting you?
Don't you know that whatever you permit or tolerate only implies that you love it?
We no dey english class ohh

MuttleyLaff:
I invited all and sundry to come witness the expose done on the lies and myth as the title of the thread tells. You know what my primary and major objective was

Expose on lies and myth using SCRIPTURES Oga!
Don't omit that part in your earlier submissions!
For once say the truth and eat your humble pie!

MuttleyLaff:
Why don't you put here verbatim what I typed and lets both examine it contextually

And yet you were accusing someone of the same thing you are doing right now.....
Practice what you preach!
These are your very words....Don't take us backwards

MuttleyLaff:
SCRIPTURES are already coming on the thread from me, more fast and furious to come, the minute TV01 begins to answer those my first set of four easy, simple, straightforward and direct salvo questions discharged at him

MuttleyLaff:
Listen, because I am not going to repeat myself, I didnt open this thread to "reel out 'scriptures' that proves that God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts!". The title of the thread is self explanatory enough, so please, get that straight. Thank you very much.

Nodogragra4me:
The same applies to you. You don't know your league
Having read a couple of badly written so called history books you imagine you were ready to take on anybody . Small boy

MuttleyLaff:
I can defend what I wrote about the lies perpetrated by falsifying original Bible text meanings about myth and Bible verses made to look as if same sex relationships and acts are to be hated.

Making such statements can only mean you never had scriptures to back your claims...no?

MuttleyLaff:
Nothing untoward, means, there is nothing in the clobber verses you and others band about that originally ever said anything against homosexuality and same sex relationships or unions. Have you got it now?

You are putting too much words on this!
Or let me make it easier for you before you say you were wrongly misquoted!
God permits and allows homosexual acts..YES OR NO?

MuttleyLaff:
I never backtracked, never flinched but was trying to accommodate you by being fair, generous and open handed. I never denied anything, what I said is you are asking me something that isn't in the remit of why thread was opened. The thread's title is self explanatory about the objective of the author.

Ohh yes you did!
Fortunately,my recent posts dont lie!
No matter the title of the thread....when the body lies,the entire thread including the title gets robbed of the truth!
Next time,be straight forward with the persons you intend inviting to such threads!
I believe the reason why you are not getting much support or inputs from advocates of SS unions on your thread is because you made it seem like you had scriptures to prove that God permitted such acts!

MuttleyLaff:
I can easily answer you, as I have and did advance the information already somewhat in my long post, but I know, you wouldn't follow and reciprocate after I've answered you

Another barefaced lie that may end up being rejected by yours truly!
Oga lets face it...you have none!
And that's the saddest and most worrisome part of this discus!
Next time,dont claim or boast about what you can't do!

MuttleyLaff:
I am not concerned about sympathy. I am not acting like a victim, I just said, you got the wrong end of the stick about the cc

You are not acting like one!
You are one!
Deal with it!

MuttleyLaff:
You took it out of context and the fact that I made that comment and similar ones during and when talking about the lies orchestrated with misinterpreting and using falsified translated words in Bible verses like Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 etcetera

Guy you are running around in circles which is your trademark so am no perturbed!
What again is NOTHING UNTOWARD?
How can you write something you cant defend only to claim that you have been misquoted or misinterpreted!
You first denied that i never said you would give out scriptures,that was busted and you started negotiating by asking for a backtrack
You then denied that i quoted you out of context....
Abeg make i ask you....what is the contextual meaning behind NOTHING UNTOWARD?
Abi e get Hebrew meaning way you insert there?
Its so difficult to know where you stand...one minute you are saying God permits and allows homosexual acts(consensual or not),the next minute you are backtracking such statement!
Chai

MuttleyLaff:
You think you know my type.

Yes i believe i do

MuttleyLaff:
I fell sorry for him too. I thought he was a scholar, that he likes information and knowledge, that he reads

I also feel sorry for you too because you are trying so hard to use him as a form of diversion right now!
Please stop this your ad infinitum rigmarole!

shadeyinka:
Thanks my brother.
A simple question and he claims the answer is in volume 16 and 17 of the encyclopedia of lascivious living and that I should go and study it.

Please take it easy with him my brother!

MuttleyLaff:
I too, I am a one man Mopol. None in the posters cc'ed can support me or help me because they share with you, your same hatred for homosexual and/or homosexuality acts.

Guy relax...i know your people!
Stop trying to act like the victim!

MuttleyLaff:
Are you serious about this? Can you be trusted you will show me yours, if I show you mine, hmm? No dirty minds here people, abeggy jor

Maybe this might jog your memory since you seem to have reading amnesia on my responses....

MuttleyLaff:
SCRIPTURES are already coming on the thread from me, more fast and furious to come, the minute TV01 begins to answer those my first set of four easy, simple, straightforward and direct salvo questions discharged at him

I almost fell down from my chair while laughing at your fast and furious grandstanding!

MuttleyLaff:
You lift out extracts of my text and take it out context

Okay I believe you can fully comprehend your word usage? no?
These are your very words.....

MuttleyLaff:
God sees NOTHING UNTOWARD in consensual adult homosexuality, homosexuals/lesbians and/or same sex attraction and union(s), especially one that is in, a kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, not harmful and committed life long until death do them part relationships

What do you mean by NOTHING UNTOWARD?
Let me assist you....
According to baba MuttleyLaff,
In pidgin:God no see any thing bad with man and man way dey nak each other!
In english:God sees nothing wrong with a man having se.x with another man!

Now show me.....where i took your words out of context!

MuttleyLaff:
Me kẹ, beat you, I no fit naa, who dash monkey butter?
Big man, Mr Hotstepper, make I postrate for ground, make una come mash me upandan all over, na only you fit, awọn alagbara

Forget all these shenanigans!
I know your type!

MuttleyLaff:
You do know that 100% of any moniker I have cc'ed on this thread are allies of yours hmm? They each share your sentiments and hatred of same sex relationships, so now tell me, how come they are my advocates or me asking them to help me out, hmm? Think about it now openmine, it isnt rational reasoning. Who does that huh?

Again, biko, do you have scripture(s) where God does permit homosexual acts? As in, do you have scriptures, where God does not permit consensual adults, having a faithful trusting, kind, loving caring, long life until death do part same sex relationship, hmm?

I am on my own!
if the people you cc'ed have refused to help you out,its because they have discovered your mischief and evasive skils


See how i have made this guy turn into a broken 1960 record....
When you are ready to provide scriptures that says God adores and loves homosexual acts,then i will gleefully and elegantly show you mine!
And at the risk of accusing me of misinterpreting your own words,i would like to remind you that You are the one who said God sees nothing wrong with homosexual acts consensual or not! right?

MuttleyLaff:
[s]Dont disregard the thread's #9 rule of not to be changing posters' comment and misrepresenting the original content, pack that silly habit in already please. People have perfected this art so much from exposure to how original Bible text meaning was changed and strange unoriginal words were introduced into the Bible, they have brought the practice to this thread, na wa ooo. Are you a yahoo boy? #NairaMarley[/s]

Unnecessary sentiments filled with endless balderdash!
I can do whatever i want with your statements!
If you dont like it,come and beat me

MuttleyLaff:
[s]Ah, Chief, please dont like with how others or some do with bible verses, take out of context whatever I might have typed nau. Please have the decency to consider, whatever you see me type, in context with the content nau. So I ask you the simple easy, short, direct and straightforward question again.[/s] Good morning to you too!.

Do i have scripture(s) where God does permit homosexual acts? [s]As in, do you have scriptures, where God does not permit consensual adults, having a faithful trusting, kind, loving caring, long life until death do part same sex relationship, hmm?[/s]

Oga,chief and royal highest MuttleyLaff...the earth shattering master with fast and furious hammer ...Please respond to the highlighted!
The rest are unnecessary sentiments!
Either you do so or you stay silent or better still ask your advocates that you cc'ed to help you out!

MuttleyLaff:
openmine, ọrẹ, it is a simple easy, short, direct and straightforward question nau.

Do you have scripture(s) where God does not permit homosexual acts? As in, do you have scriptures, where God does not permit consensual adults, having a faithful trusting, kind, loving caring, long life until death do part same sex relationship, hmm?

You are making a serious and dreadful mistake if you think I will fall for your cheap and crappy games!
You can't eat your cake and have it!
You are the one who gloated in a boastful manner that you had earth shattering and mind bugging scriptures that will come in a fast and furious pace!
On realising that your claptrap has ended up in smokes after exposing your insincerity,you now try to backtrack your very words by taking it back to me in form of a question!
Guy it doesn't work like that....
You claimed you had scriptures to back your claims right?
Now,do well to present them or call on one of your supporters to assist you since you have run out of ammo!

Just a reminder since you have suddenly developed amnesia.......

MuttleyLaff:
SCRIPTURES are already coming on the thread from ME, more fast and furious to come, the minute TV01 begins to answer those my first set of four easy, simple, straightforward and direct salvo questions discharged at him

Good morning!

MuttleyLaff:
Ogbeni openmine, lets rewind. Wipe slate clean OK?
Now, openmine, it is a simple easy, short direct and straightforward question. Do you have scripture(s) where God does not permit homosexual acts?.

This 'ibereberism' guy wan use format bribe me

Oga MuttleyLaff We don't need a backtrack or invalidation!!
That should have been your initial setup!
I warned you about this during early days of this thread but your over-bloated ego didn't allow you see palpably!
You started on a faulty foundation and you now want to retrace your steps?
You want us to start afresh now that i know what your nefarious motives are? smh

MuttleyLaff:
I envisaged somebody like you, that is why I had the foresight of the below ground rules you flouted:
4/ Strawman mining is not permitted
5/ Important to know about Bible content being king, but also agree and accept that it's Bible context, who is king-maker
7/ Exegesis, concerned with discovering the true, honest and exact meaning of Bible text(s), as opposed to eisegesis, should be the rule of the day.
8/ Dont fire questions after questions, in attempt to prevent the other poster(s) getting words in between, as it'll be reported to the referee
9/ Dont distort, dont misrepresent whoever's post you are commenting on or responding to, as this will be brought to the attention of the referree

Dishonest and evasive guy
Eat your very words and let the world see your dishonesty on display!

Do you have scriptures to back your submissions Mr MuttleyLaff?

MuttleyLaff:
SCRIPTURES are already coming on the thread from me, more fast and furious to come, the minute TV01 begins to answer those my first set of four easy, simple, straightforward and direct salvo questions discharged at him

Fast kor furious nii



....and

MuttleyLaff:
The scriptural reference or backing for this, in Jesus' words, please, is or can be found in Matthew 19:12a, where Jesus stated emphatically and/or publicly said some are born that way from their mother's womb, as in from birth.

eunuchs are now referred to as homosexuals?
wahala dey!

MuttleyLaff:
It is not like, as if, everything I type, can't be looked up in the Bible, if anyone wants to try prove me wrong. Do some research of your own, on everything you find me type on this thread, to find proof of what I am saying. Believers, should do heavy lifting too and dont be waiting, sitting and looking for other people to do work for them

So where does it say that God approves of homosexual acts?....MuttleyLaff went muffled since then!




How does God view homosexual acts based on the scriptures?

MuttleyLaff:
God sees NOTHING UNTOWARD in consensual adult homosexuality, homosexuals/lesbians and/or same sex attraction and union(s), especially one that is in, a kind, trusting, caring, loving, helpful, faithful, honest, not harmful and committed life long until death do them part relationships

Untoward: inappropriate,inconvenient

In other words,God sees nothing wrong OR God approves OR God permits homosexual acts according to Mr MuttleyLaff!


After running from pillar to post...before he finally admitted that.....

MuttleyLaff:
Listen, because I am not going to repeat myself, I didnt open this thread to "reel out 'scriptures' that proves that God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts!". The title of the thread is self explanatory enough, so please, get that straight. Thank you very much.

After all the evasive schemes,he finally vomited the truth!!!
Chai chai eleyi gidigan


Even the least knowledgeable person can see through your dissimulation and apparent prevarication right from the outset!
Your obviously brazen ego will be your greatest undoing!!

MuttleyLaff:
Listen, because I am not going to repeat myself, I didnt open this thread to "reel out 'scriptures' that proves that God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts!". The title of the thread is self explanatory enough, so please, get that straight. Thank you very much.

The chicken has finally come home to roast!
...and yet you were querying some one for not standing the heat!
Next time you open a thread,be straight forward from the outset!
Now start your submissions without including God or scriptures!
What a load of gobbledygook!

Go troll and heckle on another thread

Music to my ears!

MuttleyLaff:
You sure are now starting to behave as if like a blockhead.

You that didnt read and defiantly declared wouldnt read what I posted, now has the audacity to poke his nose, stick his grubby fingers in my face and leave a knife in my back. My remit was to descontruct the lies & myth of consensual adult homosexuality/same Sex Union. What are the lies and myth?. They are based on falsified meanings of original text and misinterpreted out of context biblical verses, those were my remit. I have nothing to do with being pulled over at whim, derailing the thread to pacify anyone or giving them support in their bigoted and predijuced stance. I opened this thread to do an exposé. I am not on trial, this not an inquisition set up and headed by openmine. openmine should have queried me on scriptures I have said are misinterpreted. He knew he will be exposed so he thought he will send me on an "arodan" errand. Of course, you know what "arodan" is, but I am not joining him in his futile games, as I didnt open the thread for that. I have already told him the grounds upon which I will oblige him, and that is notwithstanding the fact that I had actually in the first part of my 3-part long post had advanced information to the effect that said the below:

"To those, getting very well tuned in to this frequency, there is evidence of homosexual(s), during Jesus times, building "church" for the Israelites. There is evidence of homosexual(s), during Jesus time seeking Him. There is evidence of Jesus engaging with homosexual(s) and not for a single moment minded or be bothered about that. Where is the evidence of Jesus objecting to adult consensual same sex couples having a romantic faithful caring and loving relationship until death do them apart etcetera, hmm?"

I opened this thread, I have the say, I know when to type on it and when not to type. I know when to answer questions asked and when not to answer them. I know when someone is trying to deviate from the mission I set the thread up for and when they arent. I know when sincere questions are asked and arent asked

You saw how TV01 and Shepherd00 actually section by section, especially TV01 beautifully were trying to counter salient points they thought I seemed to be making. It was brilliant, I loved their effort and their sincere doggedness. openmine on the other hand, just did a "jawango", then dedicatedly trolling and spamming the thread

The bible didnt precisely say, a man should not have sex with another man, nor a man should not love another man or a man should not raise a family with another man. It is those lies centering around making believers and christians to be homophobic, intolerant, discriminative and prejudice that I am exposing. If or when I open a thread titled "God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts" openmineis more than welcome to come on it and ask for scriptures where God permits, tolerates and love homosexual acts

I already have given him an offer until when such thread sees the light of the day, if he provides me with the answer, I will oblige him his question likewise.

You just know how to whip up unnecessary sentiments!
in a nutshell,you wanted to present your case with scriptures that God permits and allows homosexual acts..no?!
Go through out the other thread and this one in particular,You said it yourself that you will provide scriptures for your submissions...Like i said before,if this thread was devoid of scriptures to make such proofs,i would have gladly remained quiet!
Oga stop your evasive tactics and give scriptures to back your claims or shut it!

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MuttleyLaff:
[s]"Glory be to God. Thank you, thank you God. "Toba to asiko lati su, idi a la", loosely translated means, "when its time to shiit, yansh must give way" so let's put hand for chin, begin watch and read how you've answered the questions then"
- Deconstructing The Lies & Myth of Consensual Adult Homosexuality/Same Sex Union by MuttleyLaff: 7:20am On Jun 07[/s]

I bet you dont recall me using the above dialect in PART 1 of my 3 parts post that was too long to upload in one whole. Like I previously said, I interject them as my mood sets, nothing about anything swiftly being abandoned. They usually are one liners, and infrequently used

When you are ready to feed your patchy,vivacious and chucklesome three part blague of a post with substantial scriptures,then you can gloat about it using your dialect!

MuttleyLaff:
You do know what the subject title of this thread is, I believe, so desist from encouraging this person from deviating and/or derailing the topic otherwise I'll tell AngelicBeing on you. You know how he/she feels like pummelling you and you've probably had enough, so wouldnt like more

what a sore bummer...!
Acting like a draconian ruler!
So how does it concern you if he agrees with my points?
Your crass attitude when people tend to disagree with you line of thought while agreeing with others is disturbing and unfortunate!

MuttleyLaff:
https://www.nairaland.com/5235137/cherrypicking-christians#79173336
I cc'ed Michellekabod2 as a fyi, nothing more, nothing less because she cc'ed me first and I noticed that you fitted to a tee, her "cherrypicking of christians " description, in her thread, the URL link which I've pasted as shown above

Oga why are you trying so hard and fruitlessly to explain your mischievous ploy to involve some one to help defend your tremulous stance!
I saw the many pips you cc'ed....If they don't come,will you drag them with a rope to make an input?
The reason they haven't shown up is because your postulations are,at best,patchy and fragmentary without scriptures!
This was what the other guy was trying to say when he agreed with my submissions before you authoritatively tried to shut him down!
How would you say God permits homosexual acts without a single scripture that backs your claim..?
When you give people a base to work on,they will contribute positively to this thread...so far you have done nothing to convince anyone that the scripture supports,allows and permits homosexual acts and that is the sad truth!

MuttleyLaff:
Are you just reading the glorified dialect on this thread ni?
I interject it, whenever the mood sets me, and coupled with translations, so whats your problem with that?

Bros be honest...that was one of your clownish schemes that ended up pretty badly..hence it was swiftly abandoned!
You then went back to your tacky 'troll' claptrap....Hope you don't forget the "strawman mining" manoeuvre...it may come in handy for you!

MuttleyLaff:
This is incredible. SMH. Dont worry. I now understand, trust me, you go dey alright las las

Ohh no more response using your glorified dialect?
I thought you were calling your legion of armies to save your already shattered ego?
Calm and smiling while advocate MuttleyLaff is nervous,distraught, and edgy!