CaptainAyub:


https://www.nairaland.com/2054885/gej-transforming-nigeria-loko-oweto

Animal, go thru this thread and see.
Idiot

Just seeing the link....the major work was actually done by the last administration!
Smh

Svoboda:



Please, stop mongering negativity. This thread isnt for that. We are all celebrating a beautiful piece of infrstructure.

I am entitled to my opinion!
If you don't like my comment here,you have the option of ignoring or 'waka pass' in case the ignoring part was not explicit enough for your comprehension!
Simple!

As much as I would give this administration a pass mark for their infrastructural strides we must also not forget the premise of this administration when they came into power in 2015 which was to tackle insecurity,develop a robust economy and reduce corruption!
Today what are we witnessing in this administration?
Insecurity has been amplified and now a threat to the same infrastructures that the administration is embarking on!
The highest point and the most embarrassing of insecurity in our country was when a group of terrorists braggadocios style bounced into abuja unchallenged or unseen by any security force,broke into kuje prison and released their fellow terrorists.....just to show the porousness of our security system,they even had time to pray before leaving the prison in what should be one of the safest cities in the country!

What about the economy after almost 8 years of this administration?
The fact that Nigeria remains the only OPEC country that still imports fuel,diesel and aviation products is a testament of how our economy has nosedived!
What about electricity?
No month passes by without witnessing a national grid collapse!
Same administration that promised 3 million jobs in a year but the unemployment rate has increased to 33% 'officially'!

The administration had initially resorted to first blaming the former administration,before blaming covid19 pandemic and now the Ukraine/Russia war for our inability to achieve the robust economy that they wanted!

The naira performance against the dollar is another humongous issue that once again puts the incompetence of the president and his ministers on the spotlight!

What about the plan to end corruption in this administration?
The highlight of the administration's corruption fight will not be complete without mentioning a man that should have retired from civil service but was surprisingly brought back by the president and supervised the alleged stealing of over a 100 billion of which some were used in acquiring properties all over the country!

At the end of the day,everyone can agree that the current president has done his 'best' based on his ability but this is clearly not good enough!

This is yet another baseless and unnecessary news!
If the former president could not sign such a laudable report that will not only unite Nigerians but also solve the many issues that are currently bedeviling our country,the next president should have done so immediately!
After all government is a continuum!

kernniejay:

Why are you dignifying those semi-illiterates with your replies, no matter how you break it down and analyze, it will be too complex for their feeble and frail minds.

Seriously its getting really annoying having to explain simplified issues to folks i presume to have had basic comprehension classes!

JJuanMiguel:


There's a report that ASUU pursued reps from ministries of finance and education during the negotiation and fixed their salary at 180%

If there is a report about such,please do well to bring or show it here! I don't rely on beer parlour gist!
Once again and at the risk of sounding like a broken record,ASUU was not the one that proposed that that lecturers salaries be increased by 180%...This was contained in the recommendation made first by the jibril committee report in 2021 and then Nimi Briggs committee report in 2022....Remember that both committees were created and belonged to the FG not ASUU!

JJuanMiguel:

Right now, the only problem is the no work no pay stance of the FG, ASUU didn't anticipate that. Forget about all these gimmicks of revitalization funds and fighting for students.

That is your opinion and you are entitled to them!
However your opinion doesn't take away the fact that our universities are in a terrible state and in need of urgent rehabilitation!
I have personally been to some of our universities and i must confess that its an eyesore!
You may have your personal vendetta with some lecturers due to your past dealings and disappointments with them but it will be illogical to generalize!
ASUU still have options before them....They are not the first to be issued such order...The resident doctors were given the same order and refused to obey which was finally resolved out of court!
However,the union has decided to follow the law on the advice of their lawyers to appeal!
They can appeal the ruling by seeking a 'status quo' order!

JJuanMiguel:

The lecturers also want to live large and are demanding for huge salaries which is not a bad thing, but they should stop shutting down schools every year and delaying people's destiny to try and achieve that.

You seem not to understand the job that a teacher puts in educating a student!
A teacher or lecturer should be living large because the directly and indirectly affect the economy of the nation!
No one including you became something in life without the effect or a teacher or lecturer!
A professor in england earns over 3k pounds a month and a professor in nigeria collects 450k but a councilor in a remote area in a state in Nigeria collects close to a million naira and you want the lecturers to give their best to the students?
The shutting down of schools should have been avoided a long time ago if the FG had done their job properly by agreeing to a negotiation that they had made!

JJuanMiguel:

Everywhere you go now, it's only about how they can't teach on empty stomach and how hungry they are.

This is so insensitive from you!
Do not allow your personal grudge with a lecturer cloud your sense of judgement!
Which lecturer that has been owed for more than 4 months will have the strength to teach?

JJuanMiguel:

The appeal court will give same verdict as the NIC, return to work and continue negotiations.

Let us wait for the appeal court before trying to preempt their judgement!
Like i said before,they have options which are in their favour!

JJuanMiguel:

The neutrals and the law are on the students' side

lol.....The students under NANS have told the union not to resume!
Let the law be interpreted in a court of law not on nairaland!

JJuanMiguel:

Lol, even ASUU themselves know that's not feasible.
Lecturers in top universities around the world engage in useful research works and attract funds and grants from various organizations around the world for their universities. The universities in turn don't lack funds to compensate them accordingly.

Useful research work is either personally funded or the university does the funding!
The former is not possible due to the salaries that even a professor earns!
However,this is not the bone of contention!
There is always an opportunity to renegotiate with another committee!

JJuanMiguel:

Your people here only do paper work for the sake of promotions, in their so called "research" a sentence will include citations from 10 different authors, they can't discover any new thing.
They just victimize students, chase girls, come to class 3x in a semester and submit demands to the FG.

Firstly,i am not a lecturer or part of ASUU....I am only trying to tackle the issues from an objective point of view!
Secondly,As much as i agree with your last statement about some lecturers in our universities,you will agree with me that not all lecturers are into what you are trying to accuse all of them!
Lets not lose sight of the main issue at hand which is the revitalization of our universities and review of the upward salary structure of lecturers!
The other issues can be resolved by setting up another committee by the FG to investigate what you are alleging!

JJuanMiguel:

The same ASUU shedding crocodile tears now invited welders to seal off the SUB at oau sometimes ago to silence the students and prevent them from fighting for their rights

This is off topic!
The question is did the FG renege in their negotiation and agreement with ASUU through the committee that they set up?
Did FG throw out the 2 reports by committees that they themselves setup to resolve the issue with the union?
Once we are done with resolving the questions at hand,we can talk about how to investigate the excesses of the university lecturers in nigeria!

JJuanMiguel:

You mean the one ASUU pursued representatives from ministeries of finance and education and fixed their salaries at 180% increment.

Its well!
The increment was done and contained in the Nimi briggs commitee report where it recommended the 180% increase in the salaries of the university lecturers!
The increment according to the committee report was to enable the salaries of lecturers to be in line with what is earned by university lecturers around the world!
As for ASUU pursuing the ministers of finance and education,then i will have to see such link or news about such before i can believe!
However i do know that if the FG is serious about revitalizing the universities,then they should abide by the recommendations of the two committees that they set up!
There is still room for another committee to be set up by the FG as long as they will abide by the eventual report of that same committee!

Khaysee:
Open this school dont waste student life PDP promise you what no government can pay
Why pdp no pay the 1.3 trillion b4 leaving office since obj

You guys dont even follow the news at all!
The current administration threw out the PDP led administration under then president GEJ negotiations with ASUU which was done in 2009 and did a fresh negotiation by setting up two separate committees!
The first was done in 2021 where the Jibril committee negotiated with ASUU and recommended in a report to the presidency which was eventually thrown out by the same presidency!
The second was done in February 2022 by the Nimi Briggs committee set up by the same presidency who also negotiated with ASUU and made a recommendation in the eventual report to the presidency....The same report was thrown out by the presidency!
If they know that they cannot not abide by their agreement,why set up two committees who made recommendations to them?
This has nothing to do with Obj or PDP but the inability of an administration to abide by a simple agreement!

edoairways:

It has been signed already

The president has not signed into law the 'decentralization of the electricity' bill!
The senate has only passed that bill for a final signing into law by the president!
If you have a contrary opinion or report please show proof with links that the President have signed the bill into law!

The president should Sign into law the bill to remove electricity generation, transmission and distribution from the exclusive list and place it in the concurrent list!
In other words,authorise the STATES to generate,transmit and distribute electricity to their citizens!
There are states with financial muscles that can do it!
Or better still,electricity companies can obtain licence from the state government to generate,transmit and distribute electricity to some districts in a state!
States that are not financially bouyant for such project can remain in the national grid or tap from a neighbouring state that can generate electricity!
Enough of this national embarrassment!

Hilarious!
Chai!
Naija don suffer!

Cognitivereason:


nonsense.. before you claimed Amotekun carries no weapon...I proved you wrong.
now you are arguing if shotguns are enough.. or if they are locally made..nonsense

This is why i said you lack understanding or you skipped English class!
Ever heard the phrase 'admit without conceding'?
I deliberately inserted that phrase knowing fully well that your benighted and unhitched brain will fall into that trap unaided!
Go and find the meaning of that phrase instead of exposing your callowness in a public forum...Chai

Cognitivereason:

by the way.. show me pictures of herdsmen carrying RPG.. boko haram/ISWAP with their semi fractions operating as bandits are not the herdsmen roaming around the southern bushes

This is why i said you are not informed or you are simply one of those who listen to beer parlour gist!
Are you aware that the bandits and herdsmen you see today are part and parcel of the Bokoharam/iswap group?
Are you also aware that they also pledge an allegiance with ISIS that supply them with the weapons that you see them wielding?
These terrorists are the ones responsible for the massacre at owo Ondo state....they are also responsible for most of the killings and kidnapping in Benue,Niger,kaduna and katsina state...this is public knowledge!
I have news flash for you,they are already in the south....
This is why governor akeredolu asked for AK47 and other sophisticated artilleries to aide the fight against the terrorists that are bandists,herdsmen and bokoharam members!
For you to even ask me to show you pictures of herdsmen carrying RPG just again proves you don't have a TV or even if your had one,the only channel available for your viewing is NTA

Cognitivereason:

plus RPG usage can never be granted for any para military unit not to even talk of state police.. if you want FG to allow state police whatsoever to use RPG to balance weapon arsenals then you will continue to wail..

How can i make this simpler for your decoupled cerebrum to comprehend properly!
Nigeria is at war and if you are going to engage the enemy,you must go with superior weapons to stand any chance of defeating your assailants!

Cognitivereason:

common Onyabo in Ikorodu carries AK 47.. because Ambode was serious..
Ortom is a Fu*king failure..
you are talking about the FG denying Ortom's claims.. the question is who takes Ortom seriously

Before you get emotional and start spewing bladerdash,have you confirmed if the FG or presidency have given his security outfit the permission to carry weapons to engage the bandits that have been terrorizing benue communities?
If they haven't, then please do me a favour and shut that putrid and uncut mouth of yours!

Cognitivereason:

let Ortom arm those weaklings we formed as security with locally made piston..
if he did I will not be arguing with you

Look at this local mgbeke!
He should arm over 300 security men with locally made piston to engage bandits that use AK47 and RPG?
I was right all along!
Common sense is not common!

Cognitivereason:


lol

these are amotekun operatives with shotguns

Oga they do not have weapons to face RPG armed herdsmen or sophisticatedly armed bandits!
Lets even assume without conceding that the ameotekun operatives were given 'shotguns' and 'knives' to engage bandits that use an RPG or highly devastating weapon of warfare...does that make any sense to you?
Thats like a pussy cat trying to engage a lion!
Connect or engage your disconnected brain Mr 'Cognitivereason' as your moniker suggests! Haba

Cognitivereason:

visit their offices in akure.. go and find out if it is knives they carry or guns
blind BAT

So Oga 'Vitamin A plus Okpolo eyes' are you saying knives and cutlass with a locally made shotgun are 'weapons' that should be used to engage highly superior ak47 and rocket propelled launchers wielding bandits and terrorists?
Now you are not only blind,your cerebrum is right now on a cliff!
So in your own thinking,you feel knives will be sufficient to ward off bandits?
I thought its because your were benighted....Now i know you had issues with your communications lecturers or you skipped english school!

Cognitivereason:

read the details of the news that says Akeredolu was angry about kastina's use of AK 47
some of you dunce read the headlines and come and shout without going through the details
Akeredolu was angry about approving AK 47 to kastina and leaving the SE and SW with shotguns

You are a glorified Olodo with zero information!
So shotguns are good enough to ward off terrorists that wield RPG and Ak47?
If shotguns according to you was good enough why do you think the governor was unhappy with FG giving permission to katsina security outfit to use AK47? Did you not reason that its due to the obvious limitations of the shotgun that made him feel it would be better to engage and match the terrorists with better weapons like APCs,AK47 and RPG or their likes?

Once again lets assume without conceding that amoetekun was given the licence to use shotguns according to you....the governor you are lamblasting told the press that he had setup his own security outfit but the FG have refused to allow them use a single weapon....Not even a shotgun!
So far no FG or aide have spoken anything contrary to what Ortom has said!
So what should they use in engaging the bandits and terrorists in the rural communities? Bow and arrow or pen knife with cutlass?
I would have said make use of your encephalon but i just remembered that it relapses anytime it tries to be engaged in proper discus!

Cognitivereason:

Ortom did nothing.. let me bring his proof that he sat with higher authorities to seek approval for weapons

I remember all SW governors in a meeting with the VP to discuss the establishment of Amotekun

Chai indeed common sense is not common!
Is benue state part of the SW?
He granted interviews with Arise morning show,AIT,TVC news and ChannelsTV morning show and he said the same thing about the FG refusing to give his security outfit the license to even have a 'handgun'!
Up till this moment,non of the FG or the aides to the presidency has commented on what he said or denied his statements which implies that he is saying the truth!

Cognitivereason:

you are simply naive and dull...

You are not only an epitome of what you just wrote up there with a huge dose of inan.ity but you are an embodiment of a pat.hetic paloo.ka with an obviously disconnected cere.brum!

Cognitivereason:

go and justify Ortom's helplessness in front of benue people.. they are in the best positions to reply you..

Well atleast i know one thing!
Not every Benue person thinks and reasons poorly like you because your case despicable!
Fortunately, your types are few in Benue state!

Cognitivereason:

who told you amotekun is not armed..

Hahaha amotekun is armed and yet the governor of ondo state is angry that katsina state security outfit was permitted by FG to use arms but not amotekun?
The news is all over the internet about akeredolu accusing FG of playing double standard....some of you don't even read the news but come here and display your ignorance!

Cognitivereason:

what is the difference between state police and state security outfit. are their aims not the same

State policing gives the state government not only the power or authority of recommendation but appointment and also firing of any state commissioner that refuses to perform its primary duties!
State policing ensures that the indigenous people of the state that are fully aware of the terrain are recruited to solve the insecurity problems in their state and LGAs because insecurity is local and must be solved by the locals who are well aware of their domain!
State and community policing also ensures that the police commissioner of the state and LGA act quickly to a conflict or crisis to ensure it doesn't snowball into a full blown war but the present system o policing will make the police commissioner to wait until there is a war before the IGP from abuja authorises the commissioner to act!
State and community policing will ensure adequate funding for their security system with logistics,acquisition of the right weapons and setting up of an intelligence unit to curb insecurity!

Cognitivereason:

no body is saying we do not need state police law

Another classic own goal!
You are contradicting yourself!
You just asked me why I think we need state and LGA/community policing and here you are admitting we need one! Smh

Cognitivereason:

but did anything stop kastina or the western region from establishing theirs?
did anything stop Ebubeagu from legally operating?
are the three not armed. the difference is /.. those of kastina are armed with AK 47..while the rest are with shotguns..

First go and read the constitution on policing!
This will give u a broader perspective as to why governors are not responsible for insecurity in their own state!
Why do you think instead of creating a security outfit in Niger state,the governor ran to the president in abuja to complain about the invasion of terrorists in his domain?
The likes of ebubeagu and amotekun are not permitted by law to use guns but to act as an intelligence unit to the present policing system in that state! This is common knowledge
This was the reason why governor of ondo akereodolu was disappointed recently that the FG permitted katsina state setup security outfit to have weapons like ak47 and yet amoetekun that was setup earlier were denied permission for acquiring weapons!
How can you setup a security outfit and yet deny them the authorisation to acquire quality and capable weapons to fight against an enemy that uses sophisticated weapons like RPG?

Cognitivereason:

have you heard of Ortom to addressing this aside wailing?

after 7 years Ortom formed a security outfit where members do not have common knives and you are here talking rubbish..

I am not sure you live in Benue state or have been there..that is why you are talking rubbish...

The fact that you don't even understand what is going on in your own state as you alluded to is the very reason why you are wallowing in your perpetual ignorance!
I heard the same governor of Benue state when he talked about setting up a security outfit like amotekun but he said the outfit was denied by FG to purchase weapons for the security outfit!
Do you expect a security outfit mandated to crush a unified terrorist organisation without the required or sophisticated weapons?
Not even an APC(armoured personnel carrier)
Yet when katsina state own security outfit sort the FG for permission to acquire weapons they were expressly authorised!
This is the same thing that akeredolu was talking out recently!
Double standard for different states!
But I doubt if you know about that...all you know is sit where ever you are like a glorified illi.terate to type trash instead of asking relevant questions that will keep you enlightened! Smh

Cognitivereason:


If a state wants to establish it own security outfit ..the governors know what to do..

Same ignorance on display!
If you like setup a 100 security outfits in one state,if they are not authorised or empowered to carry sophisticated or superior weapons to engage the terrorists,nothing will happen and the massacre will continue unabated!

Cognitivereason:

Benue state is not serious.. a state where every worker is owed.. how will they afford another organisation for security?

Hope you can say the same thing about the Niger state and jigawa state governors whose domain have been ravaged by insecurity!
I am not in any way holding brief for the governor but its important to ask some pertinent questions to comprehend their struggle!
First the state gets their IGR mainly from agriculture and the rural areas that contribute to this IGR have been thrown out from their farm lands due to bandits,herdsmen and kidnappers and are currently in IDP camps!
The only funds available to them is the little FAAC allocation that is mostly used for salary of workers which is not even enough to pay all of them!
Are you aware that Benue state has one of the highest wage bill in the country?

Cognitivereason:

Lastly being factual is not defending Buhari..use your head

Factual you said? Try harder! Unimpressed!
Please don't make me laugh so hard at your obvious callowness!
Even a buhari supporter though at times can be ignorant is by far better in engaging an issue compared to you!
Once again make sure your cerebrum is not disconnected from your fingers before typing!
No be me pursue you from english class!

Cognitivereason:

you guys need to start using your sense

when Hope Uzodinma was giving UGM woto woto using the military ..who was in charge of policing
when gov. wike sent the army to flush UGM in Obigbo .I repeat Army not police...who was in charge of policing..
when baddo gangs were killing in ikorodu and Ambode sent the police against them..who was in charge of policing
when innocents youth protested at Lekki toll gate and Sanwoolu asked the Army to intervenr..who was in charge of policing
when fulani herdsmen were butchering yorubas in ibarapa and Seyi makinde intervened... who was in charge of policing? did you hear buhari say pem?

when it entered Ondo..and Akeredolu established Amotekun which is more active in Ondo...I ask you again who was in charge of policing?
Katisna just armed their security out fit with AK 47 without anything like Pem from the FG...Again..who is in charge of policing?

rawbish

This is why i said you guys are as benighted as the president you are haplessly defending!
Is it not the same amotekun that cannot carry arms and that Governor akerodolu claimed the FG refused to authorize guns for them to use but the same government approved ak47 for the katsina state government security outfit!
Is it not the same toothless amotekun that could not stop the massacre that happened at Ondo?
Please why have you refused to mention Niger state,Katsina state or jigawa state where banditry and terrorism have ravaged them for months or are they not part of the north with benue or are their governors not incharge of their security in their state?
Why is the one of benue state so peculiar to you or are the governors whose states have been tortured by kidnapping and banditry immune from your baseless criticism?...Nonsense!

Until we have a state police system in all the states,this carnage will not stop!
The constitution which you have ignorantly refuse to seek states clearly that there shall only be one police which will be controlled by the FG!
That portion of the constitution makes the governors powerless when it comes to the security of their state!
Go and learn the constitution and the limitations of the state governors and stop spewing your ignorance on a public forum!
Lastly Learn to comprehend with your encephalon properly connected to your fingers before you reply!

Kagd10:
It was Ngige and UNN lecturer who first said Peter Obi was D pass graduate but now I can see they were trying to be considerate because after Peter Obi could only present a forged certificate, I can see that he didn't even graduate from the university but dropped out.

Really?
So an individual can go for service without a first degree certificate?
Come on guys...U can do better

Akurakambe:
You guys are just lazy! What will it cost y'all urchins and BAStards to write to UNN to verify the authenticity of the result.

Foolish idio.ts.
Tinubu is a thief and drug lord. He's a Chicago drug dealer.

That might be too much for them since they are very lazy....
The NYSC which is part of the FG have a copy of every ex-corper's first degree in their archive...They can go there and check!

Cognitivereason:
rubbish..he never drag Ortom to court for allowing fulani to use his people to test their knives and guns

besides..what business does the FG have with BSU initially..
the person he should drag to court is Ortomatic failure...LASU and DELSU are not on strike, their governors don't have 3 heads

Who is in control of the policing in that state? The CinC!
You guys really need to study the 1999 constitution

Officialgarri:
They have a governor in that state whose own village is under attack but he can't protect his people talk more of the state.
Rather, the useless man will be pointing to Abuja.

Several Months salaries remain unpaid.

Infrastructure is zero under him.

At the end of the month, he would drop a speech for his sycophants to cover his uselessness. ..

Ortom and suswam are a curse manifesting in Benue

Who is incharge of policing the state and LGAs?
The Police commissioner!
Who does the commissioner answer to?
The IGP
Who does the IGP answer to?
The commander in chief of armed forces -- President Buhari

If you are blaming the governor of benue state for this carnage despite not being in control of the policing in that state,i hope you are also doing the same for the governors of kaduna state,katsina state,Niger state,borno state and Jigawa state!

Until there is a state and LGA policing system,the next carnage is inevitable!

tinsel:
OP, this is altered. Peter made a third class. And I am sure you did it on your own to campaign here. I left Nsukka the same year with Peter. If you want I can screen the convocation book showing a list of graduates and ranks by courses. But no need for that.
And also need to alter his grade. It is childish. The point he is a graduate and whether one has first-class or pass does not determine how successful one will be in life.
It was even by God's Grace he graduated. He spent more time outside the school doing business.

If you graduated the same time just like him doesnt mean anything!
Anyone can say he graduated with him!
Since you graduated like him same time,it will be easy for you to publish his original certificate to prove he had a third class or better still get a senate documentation where his name and class was cited!

seunmsg:


This is not about insult. Peter Obi Pandora submitted a forged certificate because he has no original. I just showed the copy to a friend who work in UNN and he told me in confidence that the certificate is fake. Peter Obi Pandora is a criminal certificate forger.

Why cant that same friend of yours publish the original certificate of Obi for the public....This is your opportunity to nail him and you are wasting time!
Its either you are hallucinating about having such friend in UNN or you are as usual lying along with your acclaimed UNN worker friend!
Either way,make your findings....Its so embarrassing of you to be making claims without proof!

seunmsg:
There is no stamp on the certificate and the letterhead paper is not even from UNN. There is even no name under the signature of the VC and rector.

You guys must think the rest of us are dunce. We want to see the original certificate of Peter Obi in full UNN colors and not a black and white photocopy that can be typed at any business centre on Onitsha head bridge. This is obviously a fake and nothing else. And yes, he m simply wailing like a typical IPOB wailer

Nah wa for una ohh
Can a Nigerian do NYSC without a confirmed and verified first degree certificate esp in the 80s?
Secondly,if you have doubts that the cerificate is questionable, why not make your findings by getting in contact with the university he attended!

Rozross:
This is obviously forged, he has no certificate and not vast enough to lead the country

If it was forged according to you,make your findings at UNN as shown in the certificate...Its that easy!
While you are at it,can the FSLC of your oga be published for us to see?

PresidObi:


Only healthy candidates visit.

Sick candidates will wait to be visited.

Omor see savagery clapback
Comrade You too wicked

The inflation then had already eroded the proposed 30k even before it was implemented!

MDM2021:


If the country's experience from 1960 is anything to go by, I'm sure time has spoken except we have chosen not to reason with the voice of time. If we want to continue to experiment and search for the leaders we've not had since the independence of 1960 and following the subsequent inglorious destruction of the regional system bequeathed to us, time will speak again.

One can either be a saint or sinner, no sitting on the fence. And I maintain that among the crop of politicians we have around us today, a saint is scarce. Aren't they the same set of people jumping from one party to another? Everyone fighting for their selfish objectives. So, where are the good leaders to appoint and who will appoint them? The mass illiterate and poverty-stricken people that constitute the bulk of the voters? People that have had their mind fixated by culture and religion to think in a particular way? The people you have not been able to change for over 100 years of amalgamation and 60 years of independence? I laugh...

The earlier the reality is faced, the earlier the problem is given a pragmatic solution. Your cultures, ways of life, approaches to issues and tradional ways of governance are miles different. That was why you were given the regional system in 1960. The problem that incursioned into the regional system post 1960 could have been avoided if the central government was still under the control of the British while each region continued to grow at its pace.

Meanwhile, I don't believe we can't have a system SIMILAR to the UK's, I only believe we can't have what is EXACTLY like the UK's. If a system worked prior to independence, why can't it work today? Like I said, time will tell if the coming elections will usher in the leaders that will solve the problems on ground. We'll continue to study the trend of events as they unfold.

Ok

Kasssandra:


I myself know that what you are saying is true.

I too would love it if we sold fuel at 20 naira a liter.

But the fact is, paying for subsidy is creating a big hole in our budget , fuelling corruption and losing us a lot of money and jobs every year. And indirectly worsening the value of the naira. Plus we are spending billions subsiding fuel for all our neighbors because smuggling.

Either we keep subsidy and keep on getting more of the above or we remove subsidy and at least stop paying people free money to loot plus we in essence incentivise domestic refining. With the resulting increase in jobs and income for all.

Choose the medicine. I'm sorry for sounding so harsh, but subsidy has to go. Thanks to high oil prices we have spent twice as much as we spent last year on subsidy, and the year is not over.

We can disagree here sans rancour.

I also understand where you are coming from and i honestly want the subsidy out today because of the humongous hole it has created!
However,Nigerians must not be be beneficiaries of consistent sufferings due to the continuous negligence of our past and present leaders to do what is right!
If the government has been true to their words to repair and build refineries from the beginning of this administration or past administrations, fuel subsidy will not be mentioned by now!
Look at what is happening to the price of aviation fuel and diesel that have been deregulated...The last i heard about a flight price was a 100k.....Now imagine when Nigerians start buying fuel at #450 per litre!

My question to you is how will Nigerians be able to afford food products that are heavily dependent on the price of fuel if the subsidy is removed today?

rusher14:


They cannot build or repair them.

Hasn't history taught us anything?

Since Abacha's government, the Nigerian-owned refineries have been in perpetual state of (dis)repair.

So how were they able to repair the PH refinery?
I'm not saying that bringing in the private owners to build refineries is a bad idea...However,the FG can also build or repair theirs as a means of generating their own IGR!
Where there is competition,the fuel price and others will gradually fall!

MDM2021:


Can Obi restructure the country? Let's be sincere with ourselves.

Obviously,you did not peruse my earlier point!
This is not about Obi....its about what the electorates want or desire!
It starts with electing the right people into important positions that will influence the path way to restructuring!
If we elect the same people that have kept us this way for more than 20 years of our democracy,we will still keep having this conversation!
The power to choose rest on the electorates not an individual!

MDM2021:

I'm not saying people should fold hands. However, I think the issue of restructuring or the salient matters raised in the 2014 confab report should have been seriously addressed before the 2023 elections. That's why I said earlier that I don't still understand the magic wand any of the current candidates can use to solve the enormous problems.

The Confab report which you rightly talked about will not be discussed or done by the same leaders who want the status quo to continue!
The Confab captured resource control,state policing,Electricity decentralization etc and all we need is to ELECT TECHNOCRATS into the hollowed chambers to expedite on the laudable reports!

MDM2021:

The country currently uses about 90% of its revenue to service its debt. It has gotten to the point that the national assembly is considering scrapping about 400 MDAs to curb wastage in the face of dwindling revenue. There's a nation-wide security challenge while oil - the main stay of the country's economy - is reported to have been subject to continual theft. Which of the indicators on the performance dashboard is showing a positive sign currently?

The national assembly should start with themselves first!
The humongous expenses they accumulate is affecting the economy!
Were they not the same assembly that approved the inauguration of these MDAS?
This is why our choice of leaders from presidency to LGA chairman is paramount!
Leaders with the willpower to declare that the present system of central Policing is obsolete and State policing is an idea whose time has come in Nigeria!
Technocrats that will waste no time in implementing the decentralization of electricity and allow states to generate their own electricity!

MDM2021:

The UK is made up 4 countries basically - England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales. That was how the country was patterned up till 1960 - Northern Nigeria, Eastern Nigeria and Western Nigeria - when it gained its independence. The Welsh, English, Scottish, and Irish people have been able to retain their individual country till date as it were. Can that be said of your country where people are being kidnapped and killed in their ancestral lands at the moment?

We cannot not be like the UK but we can chart a new course by knocking off the 'feeding bottle' federalism that we currently practice and imbibe fiscal federalism!

Kasssandra:


Only way for FG to repair refineries...remove subsidy first. Because the money that would have gone into repairing refineries is spent on subsidising fuel in the first place.....

If you remove the subsidy,it means nigerians will buy directly imported fuel which goes above #450 per litre!
The resultant effect is hyperinflation!
Nigerians and the economy will not survive if any president attempts to remove fuel subsidy without repairing the refineries!
Pandemonium is inevitable! Endsars protest will be childs play compared to what might transpire!
We cannot keep paying for the incompetence and negligence of an FG that have refused to get their priorities right!
Nothing was preventing the FG from getting funds to either repair or build new refineries!
A state in the US has 47 refineries and we are grappling with just one refinery which may not be enough to serve everyone!
Nigerians are not the ones that stopped them from building new refineries since this administration started!

Kasssandra:

Finally, you want fuel and diesel to be sold at cheap prices...from your last sentence. It does not work like that in real life. The people who bring and make the diesel you use want to be paid well. Same for fuel. And subsidy costs don't cover all their cost of living.

Is our crude oil imported?
Do we not have crude oil for domestic consumption?
Once local production begins,the 'landing cost' at the port will be taken out!
Achieving cheaper diesel and fuel is possible when more players come into a deregulated system which is already at work!
Let us start local production first and let the private refineries like dangote compete,this will drive down the price eventually!