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Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created GOD??? by oteneaaron(op): 3:50pm On Jan 17, 2016
winner01:
oteneaaron

https://www.nairaland.com/2816262/god-created-everything-created-god
Hello @winner01, thanks for the input...wonderful article I must say........ You know the according to the conclusion on your article...

"God has no need to have been created, since He exists either outside time (where cause and effect do not operate) or within multiple dimensions of time (such that there is no beginning of God's plane of time). Hence God is eternal, having never been created. Although it is possible that the universe itself is eternal, eliminating the need for its creation, observational evidence contradicts this hypothesis, since the universe began to exist a finite ~13.8 billion years ago. The only possible escape for the atheist is the invention of a kind of super universe, which can never be confirmed experimentally (hence it is metaphysical in nature, and not scientific)."



Atheists need to invent some kinda super universe to prove that GOD exists on an eternal plane right??

See...the main issue here is explaining how all of this came about right?? There must be an explanation....an intelligent creation must be affiliated to an intelligent designer (and vice versa).....

My arguement is-- if we all beleive that intelligence begets intelligence", then the GOD was created(by we humans).....for if you protest to the fact that life as we know it came from nothing, then I see no reason why you should support the existence of a GOD from "nothing"........
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created GOD??? by oteneaaron(op): 3:09pm On Jan 17, 2016
firstking01:
hahahaha, what a philosophical question...first and foremost...there's only one true God...the problm why you ask these kinda questions are....

#You don't believe in the word of God, i.e the bible...every answer you need about HIM is there

#Secondly, the GOD i serve is a merciful GOD in the sense that HE does not force or compell people to serve HIM, NO...and that's why the first thing HE gave adam after creating him was the power of "choice", but unfortunately for adam, he made the wrong choice and that's why the world is the way it is today, and that choice is what is making you to ask these kinda questions...

#So, to your question of how i'm sure that my GOD is the real one has everything to do with the individual...the level of your believe in HIM will determine the level of HIS reality to you...i'm a living witness....

#To your question..."do all religion lead to one God"...wow, and what's your view on religion??, because here in pentecostalism, christianity is a lifestyle and not just a religion..we emulate the footsteps left by our LORD JESUS CHRIST...so, i dnt know what you actually mean by "religion"...

#Why don't i believe in other God...i do not believe in other God because there's only one true God like i stated earlier, which i believe you yourself know...the GOD of our LORD JESUS CHRIST in whom there is no shadow of turning, the GOD that created the ends of the earth and establishes it upon the waters...genesis 1 and psalm 136...the GOD that knew you even before you where conceived in your mother's womb accordint to jeremiah 1 vs 5...the GOD OF ALL gods...the GOD that has made heaven HIS throne, and the earth HIS footstool accordint to psalms...and the GOD of abraham isaac and jacob down to david which jesus christ got HIS root from which are following today...the GOD we serve is unfathomable, HE's a mystery, you cant knw all about HIM...let me pause here first, which other question wey u ask sef....

#Hahahaha, see question na...if GOD knew those that will wrath in hell before HE created them, the answer is capital NO, Because you sef wey dey throw me these questions it is very possible you go to heaven, very very possible, and ofcourse, you'd make heaven IJN...amen....
To answer your question...originally hell was not meant for me and you, it was meant for that serpent of old called satan, and ofcourse his real name is lucipher, the most adorned beautiful angel as of then in heaven....read revelation 12 vs 7 , and war broke out in heaven, but michael the arcangel defeated lucipher and his angels and there was no place found for them in heaven, and the great dragon was cast down from heaven, now, to this effect, some became gods on their own in divers areas of life, and that's why you used the phraes "other gods"...they are simply satanic agents disguising in godly form decieving people and leading people to hell...hell fire was meant for the devil, and not for me and you...so, my brother, the choice is still yours, you can chose to follow satan to hell or chose to follow jesus to heaven...remember, the power of choice...thank you and GOD bless you as you adhere and embrace these everlasting truth in jesus name.
Lemme take it one at a time.......

#The bible right? .....everything we need to know about GOD(whom you and I created ) is found in an ancient book. Have you ever thought about how conveniently placed GOD is in the bible, Qur'an, in the Torah....and ancient textshuh.....

Divinely Inspired right?? .....We wrote the bible.....and we control the populace with fables about our GOD(whom we created).....

#The power of choice--freewill....

This is easy, since we have freewill given to us by GOD, ask yourself, ......with God'S dealings with the ancients realli support to the fact that we r realli freehuh?.......or better yet....if we all have freewill, then why does your /our benevolent..omnipotent ..GOD(whom we created) allow the freewill of his precious creations to be trampled upon by other humans with the same freewillhuh?

#Of course he is real as can be to you.....you made him up damn it!!!!


#You claim you don't know about any other religion....afterall
..Jesus is the way the truth and the life right??......go back and study the principle behind the death of the "son" of GOD.

*I'm pissing you off right?*

# He is a mystery(to you) . He is umfathomable(to you)............go back and learn more about your GOD(whom you created)


.....I'll respond more later.....
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created GOD??? by oteneaaron(op): 1:21pm On Jan 17, 2016
krattoss:
bro I believe in this life we can only learn..

so I ve got these few questions..

.. DO ALL RELIGIONS LEAD TO ONE GOD?

.... HOW DO U COME TO CONCLUSIONS THAT UR GOD CONCEPT IS THE REAL ONE AND THOUSANDS OTHERS FAKE?..

WHY DON'T U BELIEVE IN OTHER GODS?..

.. DID UR GOD KNEW WHO AND WHO NOT THAT WILL BURN IN HELL BEFORE CREATING?


make I park here first.
Hahahaha ask am small small ooo...b4 him go cry go meet him Pastor oooo...
Christianity Etc › Re: Christians And Muslims Do Not Worship Thesame God by oteneaaron(m): 11:49am On Jan 17, 2016
GOD!!

Muslim and Christians....GOD is only a creation of your imagination................
Christianity Etc › Re: Was Sin A Necessary Evil??? by oteneaaron(op): 10:58am On Jan 17, 2016
oteneaaron:
Before y'all start attacking me...please ask yourself these questions...

-- Am I going to church or practicing Christianity because
My parents are doing so?

--Do i worship God cos i don't wanna end up in "hell fire"?

Now to the main topic....."was Sin a necessary evil ?"

Thousands of years ago, the great architect ;God..created Adam and Eve. ....and he gave them instructions as to how they should live...

After he(God) created animals (male and female) and Adam, he gave them this instruction at Gensis 1:28b saying "be fruitful and become many, fill the earth........"

Now it was obvious that the only task man had was to keep "banging" and fill the earth with his offsprings.....

But something happened...at Genesis 2:16,17......God begins to talk about a special tree of the KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND BAD.....and he instructed that no one should eat it....

Well "sh*t happens" and Eve and her Husband ate out of the fruit....

Now here are my questions...

1. If God in his ominipotency quite knew that the "tree" was trouble, why did he put it in center of the garden?

2. Why did he even mention it?

3. How were Adam and Eve supposed to understand the concept of Death ??

4. Without the "Sin" would humans have evolved? Adam and Eve understood that they were naked and has to sew cloths only after eating they fruit.

5. Without the Sin, would humans have been living as zombies..only living to keep multiplying the earth??

6. Did the serpent in disguise- the Satan(the deceiver)- do mankind a favor by giving us the key to knowledgehuh


If you have concrete answers to these questions, please lets hear what you think.....I have more, but lets decipher this Issue first.
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created GOD??? by oteneaaron(op): 10:52am On Jan 17, 2016
firstking01:
i dey church...drop ur questions??...will tackle it wen we close
You de church.......better listen well make you make heaven oo...The streets are made of gold and sapphire.....and you will be singing halleluyah
thru enternity....

*typical*
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created GOD??? by oteneaaron(op): 10:39am On Jan 17, 2016
firstking01:
hahahaha...chai, from the way you are sounding, i'm bent to believe you don't know a shit abt heaven and hell undecided...ask me make i teach you and stop coming here to post wetin you canal and human mind is telling you...i'm full prepared for you atheist here on nairaland....bring you questions and critizism here...by the grace and revelation of the HOLYSPIRIT, i'd give you a an answercheesy...thankGOD i'm now on nairaland.
hahahahahaha funny dude!!!

oya teach me...since i don't "know shit abt heaven and hell"
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created GOD??? by oteneaaron(op): 10:24am On Jan 17, 2016
firstking01:
and for the records of my life...i'm neva a religious fellow...i go to any church, jehovah witness, catholic, anglican and others too just to get a comprehensivity of what they believe before i start critizising...and this goes a long wat to proof that i'm not a religious fellow or just a church goer as you thought i am...the question you asked above have no answer....btw, and who are you to come and give it answer??...becarefu make GOD no purnish you o...mind the stuffs you come here to paste...a warning to you.
Make God punish mehuh By toturing me in hell right??
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Created GOD??? by oteneaaron(op): 10:12am On Jan 17, 2016
firstking01:
no mind the op, him be confused moropyundecided...this is the exact product of what our lecturers in skul are configuring our minds to believe, esp those in the departments of philosophy and psycology, thereby polluting the minds of young and naive people just like the op above....and God will judge those lecturers severely for misleading people....
Yes, GOD again!!! and how does GOD judge again??

Oh i forgot...heaven and hell right??

@firstking01 , be free of religion, grow up and see the world more clearly. If you were created by "GOD" then he must have been created too....and You created Him.

I'm you went to church today and your Pastor told you how much "GOD" loves a cheerful giver, and how much you would burn in "HELL" in you didn't do the needful right??

Leave religious sentiments behind, get a life and grow up.....Humanity is growing up...don' be left behind living your life according to an ancient
"holy manual"
Christianity Etc › Re: What Did Eve Gave Adam To Eat? by oteneaaron(m): 9:56am On Jan 17, 2016
i guess the question the OP asked is irrelevant ....the most important question is......

"Why did GOD have to put the tree in the middle of the Garden?"

"Why did he not fix the tree at a location far from Adams and Eve's ?"

"Why did he mention not eating from the tree when Aam and Eve had no freaking Idea what death(the penalty) was?"

" Was Sin a necessary Evil?"

This story holds no water.
Christianity Etc › Who Created GOD??? by oteneaaron(op): 9:50am On Jan 17, 2016
In this little write-up, these terms would have their meaning in Context as follows:

GOD-- Signifies the "supreme being" from any religion ( Yahweh, Allah, Buhdda, Sango, Krishna, Oduduwa, Owoicho........etc)

MAN-- Signifies You and I ; all humans existing and non-existing(HUMANITY as a whole)

RELIGION-- signifies all of the worlds religion (after-all they are all products of the same factory)



WHO CREATED GOD??

Its no wonder that when you ask he above question to any religious minded person and you're gonna get differing answers.

Ask any creationist : "What is the proof that Man was created ? " , "how do we know that life and all there is had a designer?"

And we receive this reply that -- Man and all there is are intelligent creatures ; the human brain, the universe in general attest to the fact that everything was created by a Supreme Being...

*Please note the argument - an intelligent creation must have an intelligent designer-

So here is the correlation, If you seriously believe that "nothing came from nothing" and there has to be an explanation for our "intelligence",
then GOD must have been created too!!!

WHY?

"GOD" exists and he is very ( if not too Intelligent---common, he's GOD!!).....so what is the explanation for his Intelligencehuhhuh??

If the world as we know it attests to fact of the existence of a creator, then that creator must have been created because HE(GOD) bears the same (proof of an Intelligent creator) Qualities.

Now who created GOD??


Sadly, the answer has been right in Front of Us all this time........

WE created GOD!! You and I , MAN.....

When we were perplexed as to how the universe was sparse and awe-inspiring, we had to give credit to -someone- so we invented GOD

When were Scared because we felt or experience disappointment, death, sickness..etc, we needed Solace and we created GOD to blame and to beg for assistance

When we felt the need to Control our fellow MAN, we created GOD and religion to keep humans in check , after-all they must all answer to our creation -GOD-

GET IT RIGHT...

We created GOD


Now, our creation of GOD may have been a necessary evil, and MAN is growing up....the time has come for us to let go of Childish things!!
Romance › Re: Eight(8) Sure Ways To Know You Are In The Friend Zone. by oteneaaron(m): 3:09pm On Jan 12, 2016
Estharfabian:
What's so bloody bad At being Friendzoned abeg?? undecided

So, Its now a crime for a girl to have a cherished Male bestiehuh?sadsad ehn?
boys ehn....lipsrsealed

if she's Friend-Zoning you...it's A privilege..!Many would kill to be in Your shoes!gringrin
You should be happy rather than lamenting/wailing....gringrin the only difference is You won't get the cookie....Which shouldn't be a problem Atall...cool

Like seriouslyhuh But if one niccur friendzones U ...nd makes his unofficial side chick, u'll start opening endless threads complaining on NL abi?? Friendzoning is an evil that must be curbed.......

I hav been friendzoned before....till my eyes open.....as my niccuur mentioned above.....if we don't f...uck....den f..uck
off..
Politics › Re: If I Die Fighting Corruption, So Be It - Ibrahim Magu by oteneaaron(m): 9:20am On Jan 12, 2016
A true Nigerian Patriot.....

But is dying for Nigeria really worth it??


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Politics › Re: I Am Ready To Die Fighting Corruption – Magu by oteneaaron(m): 9:08am On Jan 12, 2016
A true Nigerian Patriot.....

But is dying for Nigeria really worth ithuh??


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Politics › Re: So That APC Does Not Implode! by oteneaaron(m): 8:52am On Jan 12, 2016
Politics is one helluva game. But I will only take the OP serious if he isn't in way baised with his analysis..(wait...aren't we all biased?)

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Politics › Re: Real Or Photoshopped? by oteneaaron(m): 6:26pm On Jan 08, 2016
yemmynoni:
If you ask me!!!!
Na who I go ask??
Romance › Re: Am I Wasting My Time With This Guy? Pls Help!!!!!! by oteneaaron(m): 9:32am On Jan 08, 2016
IamLEGEND1:
[i] Why can't some people reason well?

just because his interest is wavering doesn't mean it's because she did something wrong or he's seeing someone else.

The problem has always been girls- They have this innate ability to bore guys to death.

Some guys are just better at putting up with that noñsense. but this guy sounds exactly like me.

when the sad realization of the pettiness of the things we always discuss dawns on me, I cut back on the phone calls drastically.

If the only thing you can talk about is what happened during the day or ask each other how u're doing plus all the other usual questions......... that shít gets old pretty fast.

Besides, you're no longer close....wic means you're virtually useless to me until you get back from school. I like to deal in person.
[/i]s
My unknown twin bro......ur so 100!!!
Politics › Re: $2.1bn Arms Deal: EFCC Arrest APC Chieftain And Buhari's Associate, Jafaea Isa by oteneaaron(m): 9:27am On Jan 07, 2016
OK.....nice move...i hope dem wailers won't come and start shouting propaganda....
Politics › Re: Free E-book(dealing With China) Same Book Given To President Buhari By Ifc by oteneaaron(m): 6:04am On Jan 06, 2016
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Politics › Re: Somebody Please Educate Me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! by oteneaaron(m): 7:12am On Dec 22, 2015
lordizak:
No offense taken, but You are a bigger fool.
He offered a solution and you call him a fool?? Sometimes I wonder, ....
Phone/Internet Market › Re: MTN Sues NCC, Hires Seven Senior Advocates by oteneaaron(m): 12:10pm On Dec 21, 2015
omonnakoda:
MTN is a business owned by shareholders.What would you expect them to do if you were a shareholder? What would you do if YOU owned MTN 100%? Just pay quietly? What MTN is doing is perfectly rational business behaviour. Cost -Benefit? What have they got to lose versus what have they got to gain?

Let us eschew sentiments and think rationally.We are talking hundreds of billions of naira i.e annual budget of several Nigerian states combined.Should they just pay without a fight?
So in simple terms....emptyhen are only doing initial gra-gra....Nd they must pay the money right??
Phone/Internet Market › Re: MTN Sues NCC, Hires Seven Senior Advocates by oteneaaron(m): 11:58am On Dec 21, 2015
You blame dem?? Its the Government i blame for giving emptyhen any reduction in the first place.

If you impose a fine, stick to it. .....Tell me if the south africans would consider a Nigerian company if the reverse was the case.....

Now emptyhen don get mind Sue NCC.....just imagine.....no be their fault.... angry
Christianity Etc › Was Sin A Necessary Evil??? by oteneaaron(op): 4:34pm On Dec 20, 2015
Before y'all start attacking me...please ask yourself these questions...

-- Am I going to church or practicing Christianity because
My parents are doing so?

--Do i worship God cos i don't wanna end up in "hell fire"?

Now to the main topic....."was Sin a necessary evil ?"

Thousands of years ago, the great architect ;God..created Adam and Eve. ....and he gave them instructions as to how they should live...

After he(God) created animals (male and female) and Adam, he gave them this instruction at Gensis 1:28b saying "be fruitful and become many, fill the earth........"

Now it was obvious that the only task man had was to keep "banging" and fill the earth with his offsprings.....

But something happened...at Genesis 2:16,17......God begins to talk about a special tree of the KNOWLEDGE OF GOOD AND BAD.....and he instructed that no one should eat it....

Well "sh*t happens" and Eve and her Husband ate out of the fruit....

Now here are my questions...

1. If God in his ominipotency quite knew that the "tree" was trouble, why did he put it in center of the garden?

2. Why did he even mention it?

3. How were Adam and Eve supposed to understand the concept of Death ??

4. Without the "Sin" would humans have evolved? Adam and Eve understood that they were naked and has to sew cloths only after eating they fruit.

5. Without the Sin, would humans have been living as zombies..only living to keep multiplying the earth??

6. Did the serpent in disguise- the Satan(the deceiver)- do mankind a favor by giving us the key to knowledgehuh


If you have concrete answers to these questions, please lets hear what you think.....I have more, but lets decipher this Issue first.
Politics › Re: Cramjones To Give Away $500 To Political Supporters! Get In Here! by oteneaaron(m): 6:50am On Dec 17, 2015
Cramjones...this is really a nice gesture and concept I must say....i'm joining the train and keeping my fingers crossed as well.
Politics › Re: Court Of Appeal Sacks Governor Wike, Upholds Tribunal Verdict by oteneaaron(m): 1:07pm On Dec 16, 2015
Ok....i de come
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Politics › Re: Dokpesi, Unable To Meet N400 Million Bail Condition, Spends Night In Kuje Prison by oteneaaron(m): 12:24pm On Dec 15, 2015
Khd95:
I see him spending more nights in prisongrin

cos any civil servant that will come out with 200m as surety under this administration will firstly or later ve to explain how he Got 200m as a civil servant,irrespective of his/her levelgringrin
Very serious trap....i like dis...

Politics › Re: Photo: Imo State Set To Unveil The Tallest Statue Of Jesus Christ In Africa by oteneaaron(m): 12:20pm On Dec 15, 2015
Like Jesus gives a damn.......

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