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Pets › Re: Share Your Opinion: Is It Right To ALWAYS Beat Your Dog When Training Them? by OtyandTheFangs: 1:11pm On Apr 19, 2019

[b]An acclaimed dog trainer was invited to a house that had a very aggressive dog, a Rottweiler the dog was.
They asked him if he could tame the dog and make it less aggressive.
And he said "Of course, I surely can. It's not that hard"
So he took sticks, piled them up and used each on the dog. He changed sticks when the other broke and so it went, changing and using diff sticks to beat the hell out of the dog.
Till when the dog couldn't muster the strength to bark and cry.
"YES!" he thought he had tamed the monster.
So he came again the next day to see if the dog still proved stubborn and needed more whooping.
When the dog saw him, it didn't bark or growl at all, it just cawed its head.
The man feeling fly was bragging and waving his hands for gestures.
One of his hands was only few inches from the gnashing teeths of the dog when the dog grabbed his arm and tore off skin like a piece of cloth
He's still in a hospital I guess
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Lessons we learn[/b]

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Pets › Re: Share Your Opinion: Is It Right To ALWAYS Beat Your Dog When Training Them? by OtyandTheFangs: 11:54am On Apr 19, 2019

Originalme1, That dog will respect him out of FEAR and not out of LOVE. And if the dog has a choice, it will do two things 1. Run away at any chance it gets OR 2. It'll bite the dude with all the strength its got. Yh, sh!t happens.

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Pets › Re: HELP My Male Dog Is Not Mounting Female On Heat by OtyandTheFangs: 11:14am On Apr 19, 2019

HumphreyBold:
I will still wait then

You ever tried jacking him before she came on heat?
We do these to give the male dogs experience on what it feels like to be stimulated, ejaculate and to mate.
So they then start humping by themselves, first on your leg(the funny thing male dogs do) then if other dogs are in sight, they hump them.
So this will teach them what to do when they meet a female on heat
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My advice;
1. You lock them up in a confinement big enough to house the both of them but small enough for their body to be in contact
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2. You get a professional to assist
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3. You use another stud(male)
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4. You wait till her next heat. By then, you'd have personally made him more experienced.
Cheers!

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Pets › Re: HELP My Male Dog Is Not Mounting Female On Heat by OtyandTheFangs: 11:00am On Apr 19, 2019

HumphreyBold:
She’s not bossy , she stands and wait for him to mount but he just lick , she lift up her tail to show she’s ready ... but the male is just too lazy for my liking

Lol!
He's not lazy, he's just not experienced.
You said it yourself, its his first. And its not like he has seen other dogs do it.
So he trying to mount her is what his instinct tells him to do, but after that, he's got no clue on what to do next hence, he drops and walks away.
Your female dog flagging and opening up for him shows she's ovulating, and this should be the period when she should be mated.

Pets › Re: Whats The Best Feed For Dog Growth ? by OtyandTheFangs: 10:49am On Apr 19, 2019

The top two that are hyped are the RoyalCanin and the Diamond.
But really, other feeds are good too (Nutritola, Pedigree, Josi, Booster etc.).
What you supplement them with is what's important; vitamins, drugs and co.
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They are pretty huge for 5 months. Weldone!

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Pets › Re: Luwis,Nice SouthAfrican Mastiff(Beorbeol):NEEDS UR HELP TO MAKE HER GROW HEALTHY by OtyandTheFangs: 8:33pm On Apr 17, 2019

Hi MavenMykael,
Good work you doing mahn
Love your enthusiasm and passion.
And a lovely dog you've got too
I read it through, lol
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4 Months already? Wow, time flies, truely.
Might I ask, have you immensely changed her diet?
I mean the diet you did give her when she was about 10 weeks +, as it totally been changed?

Pets › Re: Nita is growing just as i wanted by OtyandTheFangs: 3:02pm On Apr 17, 2019

She's beautiful! Weldone, an awesome environment, by the way. Potty training...?

Pets › Re: Please Check If This Is A Pure Breed. by OtyandTheFangs: 2:55pm On Apr 17, 2019

Engrpj:
I asked for a Caucasian Puppy, I received this. Don't know of its a pure breed..

Thanks

1000angstroms:
Where are the parents? There is no how one can know. All puppies look alike.

mhd5757:
The problem is that everybody will tell you it's not pure just so that they can get you to return or get rid of this one and buy from them.

It's not!
Lets tell him the truth.

Pets › Re: My Dogs Are Driving Me Mad by OtyandTheFangs: 2:19pm On Apr 17, 2019

[b]Don't blame them Brah!
You just haven't thought them. You might think you have, but they know you haven't.
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Take them to the place you've destined for them to poo
Do this when you know they are pressed and they really need to let go.
Quickly take them on their leash to the place and wait with them till they poo or pee.
If they're feeling uneasy with you close-by, then simply tie the leash on a pole or rod then walk away, but make sure you can still see them.
When they position themselves to poo or pee, you'll come closer so when they drop, you then give them a reward. Either petting, singing songs for them or yummy treats.
Do this everytime.
So later on when you release them, they go there themselves.
And if at all they go pooing where they not supposed to, simply(not intensely or roughly) make them know you not happy bout' it. Either you yell "NO", stamp your fit on the ground or something they know you to do when they've done something wrong.
Not that hard per se.
Cheers![/b]

Pets › Re: My Dogs Are Driving Me Mad by OtyandTheFangs: 2:03pm On Apr 17, 2019

mhd5757:
My dogs have turned the front of the compound in to their toilet, anytime I release them, they will run to the front and shitt, so I started keeping them chained up all the time, yesterday, I released them for only 30 minutes to play and exercise a little and in that 30 minutes if you see the shitting they did ehh!? especially the gsd,
that one has got a reputation of being a shitting machine, he was the one that even corrupted my Rott/gsd bitch to be shitting anyhow.

From now on I'm going to keep these dogs chained up all the time, and let them loose only once in or twice a week to move and play around and even if I do so, I am going to be there to monitor their movements.

This shitt is getting out of hand, enough is enough! I'm keeping them chained up at all times, even if it makes them overly aggressive as they already are, I don't care.

Hahaha!!
Lawwd! knows I couldn't help it

Pets › Re: Is It Compulsory To Crop Caucasian Ear by OtyandTheFangs: 1:34pm On Apr 17, 2019*

Its kinda traditional, that as been passed on for about 2000 years.
Their ears were cropped for security reasons; to avoid them getting injury and injection during fights with enemies and running in bushes.
Now, those are importance of the ear-cropping.
But its not a must you follow that tradition, its your personal choice, really.
Especially if your dog doesn't do such task.
But hey, do know this, if at all your dog is to attend a Dog Show, it might get disqualified if the ears aren't cropped cause some people consider it standards.
Cheers!

Pets › Re: Help Guys, My Dogs Are Almost Stupid. by OtyandTheFangs: 8:38pm On Apr 09, 2019

davillian:
Ive seen Eskimos which are aggressive to strangers but when they bark and try to attack it makes me laugh.
Like these tiny things thinks they can scare me lol.

LOL!
But don't tempt them
Those tiny teeth you see aren't blunt o
They tear. That's why they are called Teeth like saws
Believe me, you wouldn't want those things on your body
And some even have the balls to engage you in a battle and you must run, lol
Their motto during battle is until death do us part

Pets › Re: Help Guys, My Dogs Are Almost Stupid. by OtyandTheFangs: 4:23pm On Apr 09, 2019

[quote author=Kelvin30286063 post=77292807][/quote]Make sure those dogs got the traits you want in yours
I.e. If you want your dog to be barking efficiently and regularly, mingle it with a dog that does that very well and everytime. Preferably a Lhasa Apso
If you want your dog to be security concious, associate it with a guard dog. A GSD, Malinois, Rott etc.
I would have added "If you want your pet to be extremely loyal, you can mingle it with Pitbull", but we know they do not possess tge perfect personality. They are an extremely jealous breed
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P.s. For you to be certain where the problem is from, check out the Parents. See if you can find any similarities in that aspect.
If you do, then you know its mainly a gene-trait-thing that's the cause, the temperament.
Cause there are lots of Eskimos that are naturally aggressive, some even too aggressive.
And also, go online and check the standards and the right trait. Either on AKC, UKC or other association.
Cheers

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Pets › Re: Help Guys, My Dogs Are Almost Stupid. by OtyandTheFangs: 4:07pm On Apr 09, 2019

Kelvin30286063:
Bro you're free to laugh, even though I don't find it funny. Thank you so much, I'll try everything you said.
I also lock them in most times. My house is fenced which means technically they are indoor 22 hours of 24 but once they get the chance and the get is open, out she goes.

I feel your pain brah
We've been there before, and we help Owners and their pet get out of it.
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You need to socialize them. I'm guessing they've associated with humans all their life, hence their reason for wanting to start a relationship with every person they come across, be it a stranger.
So don't blame then, its how they've been conditioned
So to help, you gotta now socialise them with other dogs and pets. Not just observing from afar, let them mingle and spend time with them(other dogs).
And I don't mean other stupid(if you know what I mean) dogs o, so we won't compound the problem.

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Pets › Re: Help Guys, My Dogs Are Almost Stupid. by OtyandTheFangs: 3:56pm On Apr 09, 2019

Majikals:
Trying so hard not to laugh @ur predicament but your dogs are damn funny and stupid. Well, I suggest you lock them up during the day and release them only at night. Also try to feed them time to time with fura da nunu (opinion from some quarters says it makes dogs aggressive). If these methods doesn't work after few months, sell them off and get yourself different dogs,

That won't really change anything
Its part of them already, their temperament conditioning.
Its a very valid method you said, but the effect don't really show on this breed.
They could be locked up 24/7 and they still wouldn't budge.
The only exception is when its done from their Pup stage. Cause whatever they pick up at that stage sticks with them.
But doing it when they're grown? Damn, they wouldn't suck it in

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Pets › Re: Help Guys, My Dogs Are Almost Stupid. by OtyandTheFangs: 3:44pm On Apr 09, 2019*

TarOrfeek:
Principled Dogs List.

1). Rottweiler
2). Rottweiler/GSD cross
3). Rottweiler Male
4). Rottweiler unfed for 4 days
5). Rottweiler named Cesar/Max
6). Pittbulls fed with bloody meat

Hahaha!!
What happened to other dogs?

Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 5:32pm On Jan 25, 2019

Eveezy:
Bro we all had that dream for local dogs, until reality hits us, the local breed are extreme mutts, any attempt to bring a foreign breed would taint dem more, ur 15 years may become longer. Let me guess, dis is ur first or second year of ur project, I will keep tab in 5 years time lets see if u still have dis vision

You are a perfect example of a typical Nigerian whose mindset needs to be reformed
You praise the foreign but yet neglect/reject your country's!
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Do you know how the GSD of today began?
You ever heard of Max Von Stephanitz?
The animal lover(like agboedeh) saw a dog called Horand at a show and saw the possibilities and beauty in that dog. Horand was of an unknown breed of that time. So I'll leave you to research the timeline of the GSD
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I've been told about a friend who exports this our "ekuke" to SA and sells them for 150K, no stress.
Shey yunno its this Ekuke that were once the renowned AIYELABOLA. The farm dogs of the old-days
Beauty in every breed!

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Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 5:08pm On Jan 25, 2019

Starboytwo:
2- someone made mention of local dogs... Can they reach the same level or almost the same with the foreign breeds if they are subjected to the same training(eg smartness, agility, attack etc

Ok, this is where traits and temperaments is of essence, it draws a margin.
Not all dogs have the mental ability(brain power) to undergo some training sessions.
Thats why there are variations among the dog breeds, each mutated for a specific pur
According to Desmond Morris, there are 6 main groups of breeds officially recognized
The gun-dogs
The hounds
The working dogs
The terriers
The toy dogs
and the utility dogs.
So each of this groups have different mental capacity

So if you wondering what the mental power of a typical Nigeria stray dog is then do the research work. Get a first hand experience by breeding(no mixing please, if you really want your research to be pure) or ask anybody specialising on them. Like agboedeh of NL, doing a good job by studying n working on them.

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Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 4:50pm On Jan 25, 2019

Starboytwo:
OK now I'm kinda interested... 2 questions please... Do dogs get spoilt, like a spoilt brat?

Lol! Of course they get spoilt. "Over pamper" them and that's what you get
They start competing with you for the "Alpha role'. I mean, who doesn't wanna be the Alpha of the "pack"?
p.s. In this conversation, I want you to think dogs like you'll think a fellow human being. One who can think, share emotions and communicate. That's the best way you'll easily understand and relate with them well.
Now I'm not saying you neccessarily need to treat them as Humans in whole, but just understand that they too act as Humans.
Like Jay Z says, "I'm like a dog, I don't speak but I understand"
So if you think tha that pretty canine in your house kanor communicate or understand, I hope you now know better.
So in short, moderation is erything. Excess pampering(this doesn't equate to love tho) or abusal of the dog will lead to a stubborn dog or a spirit-broken dog respectively

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Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 12:49pm On Jan 25, 2019

Starboytwo:
And why so much training with dogs... I thought you'd just get one and feed milk till they grow or something, what I'm reading here is like taking care of a baby...

Proverbs 22:6 "Train up a child the way he should go, And when he's old he will not depart from it"
Same thing applies to pets.
Just cause its an "animal" doesn't mean you should treat/relate with it as such.
Training helps to correct, compose and construct the behaviour of your pet
Basically, removing any unwanted habits and putting in the habits you desire. More like the input and the ouput technique.
You know everydog has got its bad habit(s), so its how well you manage it from the start that'll show in the latter days.
Cheers! anyways

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Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 3:34pm On Jan 24, 2019

oluomoadebayo:
DOn't get me wrong ooo. I will be under a protective suit and I will do the same for you.

You didn't answer the questions. But its cool
I won't use an APBT. Like I said, its too typical.

I'd use the Rott instead. You ever heard of Khan?
You must have

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Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 3:00pm On Jan 24, 2019

oluomoadebayo:
Give me your address and I will come and test your APBT for free with the condition of making videos. If you are ready to come to my place, I will put Darco on you as well. Deal?

Nah, I wouldn't make it so typical. Why will I use a Pitbull on you

So you doubting the profiency of what? My training or the dogs themselves?
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"Put Darco on me"?
To what end?
To prove what point? That your dog is trained too?

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Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 12:07pm On Jan 24, 2019

oluomoadebayo:
You can only know which dog bites better if you are under a suit and not behind a computer

You know I actually did test the bite force of an ABPT and a GSD. The reason for using this varying dogs that differ in so many things is cause I actually saw them being rated inca video "Top 10 Best Guard Dogs". The GSD being 3rd and the Pit 2nd.
So we werked it out. Got someone to put on the gears, trigger them and I gave them the command.
Even with the bite sleeve and chain, the scars left on the dummy's hand after the APBT showcased the talent in its fangs will narrate the story for you without you asking what happened.
Like you said, pure bred APBTs might have no human-agression tendencies, ok but when trained to do what you want them to, in this case; to be aggressive towards mankind (on command). They can and will wreck havoc to that man that dares.

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Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 11:31am On Jan 24, 2019

oluomoadebayo:
Let me find a way to explain this without revealing my training trade secret.

Hmm...
You wanna reveal this privately?

Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 12:20pm On Jan 23, 2019

oluomoadebayo:
I always ignore such people but there are some novice guys that are reading and learning.

Exactly the reason why I involved myself in the conversation
Silent viewers are yearning to learn. But with the much uneccesary comparing and comtrasting that as occured, I'm certain they are already lost in their decision
Well I'm done with that conversation. Talks like this only yields discord among we brethrens and discredits the already made efforts of anyone involved

..Back to the purpose of the thread..

Those are beautiful
canines. Your trainings are awesome, and your style of drilling dem' dogs too
Been wondering, just some few quetions if you don't mind

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Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 11:47am On Jan 23, 2019

oluomoadebayo:
Effectiveness of the bite is the most important thing but I guess you haven’t work a dog in your life because it’s getting ridiculous with these irrelevant claims.

Are you actually contrasting yourself openly?
Which bite force is most effective, the higher or the lower?
You call the bite force of a dog irrelevant? Wow. Here I was, reading a thread on my prospective and beautiful breed of dog, the Belgian Malinois. From a "renowned breeder" in the Dog world of Nigeria.
Until I kept reading on and stumbled upon some conversations or perhaps an argument between the fervent dog breeders about an obviously stronger breed of dog and an agile/trained(I wouldn't say weaker) breed of dog
Pains me to say, the purpose of this thread is lost to an unknown cause.

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Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 11:32am On Jan 23, 2019

oluomoadebayo:
CO lost her glory many years ago and majority of the CO in this world now are bred shows

Hmm...interesting.
In other words, you saying there was a time the Caucasian Ovcharkas was preferable in all ramifications than the BMs?

Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 11:08am On Jan 23, 2019

oluomoadebayo:
APBT has no human aggression. They are bred for their hunt drive.

I said trained
Well, you haven't seen mine. And the ones I've trained, brotha

Hunt drive you say?
They were bred for their strength, agility and their loyalty brotha.
Do you know their renowned "loyalty" once made them the number one American Family Dog. You disagree? Well research will help. And if at all you don't find it on the net then let me know so I'll forward a video of their history and their traits to you.
At least , you'd have no doubt left seeing that video

Now let me shock you, APBTs have better agility than the BMs and GSDs. I know you'll ask me why they aren't mainly used for police escorts and guarding.
Well I'll leave you to research

Pets › Re: Rapid Response Squad Dog: What Breed Of Dog Is This? by OtyandTheFangs: 2:26pm On Jan 21, 2019

arceem:
The most expensive Dog on earth!!

Lol.. No its not

Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 2:13pm On Jan 21, 2019

agboedeh:
the truth of d matter is DAT a trained Caucasian,and kangal are not in d same league with a trained malinois and gsd.
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what we sud compare the malinois with is d gsd not Caucasian or kangal
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Caucasian and kangal are bred to guard livestock not to do police work

Did you thoroughly read the thread? I doubt that though

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Pets › Re: Belgian Malinois Breeding Plan In Nigeria. by OtyandTheFangs: 1:43pm On Jan 21, 2019

abbeg:
Caucasians and the like are better guard dogs than malinois and their kind but malinois and co are better working dogs.

In heirachy, the Caucasian Ovcharka is higher in terms of fierceness and guarding duty thing. Making them better guard dogs than the BMs and GSDs
This is not a convecture but a proven fact!
Thorough research will make them learn better. And experience too
Cheers!

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