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Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 6:40pm On May 14, 2020
All these didn't answer my question;

Were all the ethnic groups consulted and they gave their approval for inclusion in Eastern Region?


ALL parts of Nigeria have been in existence and interracted with their neighbours for centuries before the Advent of British Colonial rule.







Dikebuka:
Let me explain something
Before Britain, the various ethnic group were coexisting..though not in a perfect form we were existing already..

Just like I told u earlier
Nri was a spiritual place that most people went on pilgrimage.. Infact the Eze Nri was never seen

Igbos in Ahaba,Aboh, Iselle-ukwu was influence by the Oba of Benin and though they wia independent of his Dominion.

Igbos wia already in contact with Ijaw...if you recall King Jaja of Opobo...infact Jaja was never seen as a domineering igbo and he was one of the strong resistance the east hard toward British incursion.

Now igbos in Anambra, Imo, Abia down south hard wah they call chiefdoms not kingdom..it was the whiteman dt brought warrant chief.

The Aba women riot was Igbo, Efik and Ibibio women dt ended the taxation stuff to show dt they have been existing even before the whiteman came.

Now Aro-confederacy was the order of the day den..they was no true king for the places that had dt Confederacy.

Kalahari have been in contact with the igbos..from the slave trade era.

Now even before the establishment of the eastern region, they have been dia.

One thing again I will say is this the British came in through the ports but faced stiff resistance to conquer the region
They retired most of the sophisticated merchants in the riverine area..

Fought the war with the confederate states won yet could not get for grip...

Had to force the Eze Nri out and tell.him to denounce his title..

Brought warrant chief and even militarization of the region
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 6:35pm On May 14, 2020
But they have a lower poverty rate than you.

Akwa-Ibom and Cross-River States are doing far better than your States in certain areas, so be humble.



Kwashiman:
Because you SIMPLY can't compete SIMPLE. Leave too much talk. Like which indices can we even start from sef? bros una no abeg, waste of time. grin

Now if it comes to producing fuckable housegirls like Ekaette or Iniobong, then we fit give una that trophy. Statistically, one in every 4 Nigerian boys have at least been disvirgined by their Calabar abi Akwa Ibom house-girls at early childhood.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 6:12pm On May 14, 2020
But is it okay if the wealth from the crude oil of Niger-Delta is used to build the 2nd Niger Bridge and develop Ebonyi?


You are telling the SS minorities that it's not fair for people in Katsina or Sokoto to own oil Wells in the Niger Delta but you didn't tell them if it's fair for people from Aguleri, Awka, Nnewi or Afikpo to own oils in the Niger-Delta.



hammerP:
I TELL THEM AS IT IS BRO.

NNAMDI KANU WILL EVEN CALL THEM MAD PEOPLE.

IF YOU SEE A DOG, THE FIRST THING THEY TELL YOU IS THE DOG CAN SMELL FEAR AND ATTACK.

ALL WE HAVE SEEN FROM THIS UNREASONABLE MINORITIES IS FEAR.


IT GETS TO A POINT WEN ALL THEY FEAR STARTS HAPPENING TO THEM LIVE.

I BELIEVE THEY ARE ALREADY LIVING THAT FEAR, SO WEN THEY SEE IGBO AND START TALKING ABOUT FEAR, I WONDER IF THEY ARE INSANE.

A MAN FROM KATSINA AND SOKOTO OWNS THE OIL WELL ON YOUR LAND AND U THINK THAT IS FINE?

THE MONEY GOTTEN FROM OIL IN YOUR LAND IS USED TO FEED PEOPLE IN ZAMFARA, YET THAT IS OK.

I HOPE U SEE WHERE AM GOING WITH THIS.

ARE THE SS PEOPLE MAD?
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 5:29pm On May 14, 2020
You don't seems to get my point.


The people of Igbanke love Biafria and 90% of them had voted for Biafra.

However there are surrounded by Edoid Tribes who will not vote in the referendum.

Are you going to have Igbanke Biafran territory inside Edo Republic or Biafra will move in and just annex the whole of Edo Republic or they will evacuate the Igbanke people into Biafra Proper?


Dikebuka:
The will have to choose where the want to belong to..nobody will force them..but I doubt any igbo tribe or igboid tribe will want to remain in these current Nigeria..

Even with Nnamdi Kanu's type of confederation, I doubt any tribe will even consider d Nigeria

Even people that call themselves Anioma self.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 5:15pm On May 14, 2020
This post didn't answer my question sir.


Were Ngwa, Etche, Nri, Ogoni, Bende, Ikwerres, Ekpeyes, Ogojo, Ibiobio, Oron and Efik consulted and their approval gotten before the British Colonial Government created the Eastern Region in 1950?

Eastern Region was created by British imposition in 1950 just like Nigeria was created by British imposition in 1914.

Both were not organic or indigenous political entities.






Dikebuka:
Igbos where abit different in their approach then.
Igbos in the west( igbanke and delta) had reverence to the Oba but not loyal or subservient they had kings
Igbos in the north: (Reverence to d Eze Nri as king and priest) avatar
Igbos from anambra,imo,abia wia made of chiefdoms who wia in a Confederacy with Ibibio,Efik and other ethnic group within d region
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 2:59pm On May 14, 2020
Yes, you are right sir.


Even Taraba, Adamawa, Borno and Yobe Sttates will also to be parts of Biafra.



hammerP:
IF YORUBA KEEP FOCUSING ON BIAFRA AND IGBOS.


I PROMISE THEM, WEN BIAFRA LEAVE, EVEN ONDO WILL FOLLOW BIAFRA.



WE ARE WORKING AND TALKING.


WE ARE ON GROUND AND ONLINE.


BIAFRA IS NOT A TALKING SHOP.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 2:44pm On May 14, 2020
I too have thought of re-unification of the Yoruba people as one homogeneous Country but I feel it will be very difficult.

In Togo today, Indigenous Yorubas are sometimes accussed of being 'Nigerians' and marginalized.
Atakpame is the fourth largest city in Togo and it started as a Yoruba city but now gradually been mixed with the Ewe tribe.

It is one city in Togo where Yoruba language (called IFE language in Togo) is still been used to conduct sermons.



BeerParlour:
All they do is think and wish evil to the Easterners for just no reason.
Afonjas should be thinking of uniting with their brothers from Benin Republic and Togo to form one powerful or homogeneous country in Africa. They can be like Canada that speak English and French or they work on their Yoruba language.

If I was Afonja, that's what I would be thinking.
Yoruba nation is divided into 4 countries... Togo, Benin Republic, Nigeria and Ghana yet they leave their nation to poke others.
They should be thinking of reunification with their people.

Everyone is a looser in Nigeria.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 2:30pm On May 14, 2020
Okay, I see.

So you have started to let them know you aren't joining them before you start hearing statements like these



*We developed Port Harcourt, Calabar,Warri or Uyo.

* Calabar, Port Harcourt and Uyi are 'No man's lands'


Mystiquefia:
Call it anything you want, its okay by me. We have suffered enough marginalization from the big 3 and we will not be cowed, blackmailed, foisted into any unhealthy marriage with any of d major tribes in Nigeria, Without satisfactory liason. Self Determination is not an exclusive right, preserved for biafra & those who share in their ideology.

And we need to echo our disapproval before hand so that those who have degrees in grabbing peoples lands do not mistake our silence for consent or weakness. so dat blood no go flow..
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 2:21pm On May 14, 2020
Bros, I can't just stop laughing at 'However, one thing is sure; you people must stop acting as spoilers'.








Nowenuse:
You see, the only thing that unites your people is fear of Igbo domination. That is not enough to form a country cos that uniting factor will disappear as soon as you have your own country.

To be sincere, I don't think joining BIAFRA will even be a good idea for your people. However, one thing sure is that you people must stop acting as spoilers! (In the sense that you only mention your NDR whenever the issue of BIAFRA comes up).
Nobody ever hears of your own independent agitations without the mention of BIAFRA. Why?
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 2:15pm On May 14, 2020
If Nigeria should disintegrate in peaceful and friendly ways, there will be sharing of assets and liabilities such as in the case of Czechoslovakia.

However, if Nigeria should disintegrate with violence and/or under non-violent but hostiles atmosphere, things may not be as straight forward as that.



Head or tail, the succeeding countries where the projects are sited will own these projects.

In case of disintegration, can the Kanuris in Borno, the Jukuns in Taraba or the Yorubas in Osun States be laying claims to the crude oil in Delta State or the Oil refineries in Port Harcourt or Eleme?




Dedetwo:
Most Nigerians tend to reinforce the belief that Nigeria is a home of the fools. What have become the Niger Delta tribes? By the way, I can agree with you that if the silly Nigeria disintegrates, it will give rise to, at least, more three nation states. However, every project erected with Nigerian fund while lingering as Nigeria shall be owned by the emerging nation states else there will be no peace and cooperation among the nations. As of today, south east could standout as only region with no federal presence and stand to progress rapidly without any diplomatic encumbrance. The Republic of Igbo land does not need to answer to anybody about Nigerian property(s).
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 2:04pm On May 14, 2020
If care is not taken, if Nigieria should disintegrate,Anioma will be




A hotly contested Region just like Kashmir which was balkanized into 3 and controlled by India, Pakistan and China or Western Sahara between 1975-1979 when it was contested and claimed by Mauretania, Morrocco and The POLISARIO representing the Indigenous Saharawi people.




Bobonnukwu:
Just making my point, cause the way una dey rush to create these Niger Delta republic without due consultation with the people, make person no make make mistake draw map and include Anioma like some Ipob clowns force non-Igbos from the South South into Biafra.

Good luck to you guys.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 1:47pm On May 14, 2020
Congratulations for this declaration of not respecting a Yoruba person.






We have heard you and believe you sir.


You can now go back to your seat.

hammerP:
YORUBA DONT HAVE RIGHT TO KEEP DISTURBING MY TRIBE WITH THREAD ON NAIRALAND.


THEY HAVE RIGHT TO OPEN THREAD THAT CONCERN YORUBA.


NOT EVERY MINUTE, IGBO THIS, IGBO THAT.


TRYING TO CAUSE TROUBLE BETWEEN IGBOS AND OTHER GROUPS.


I THINK, THEY SHOULD COVER THEMSELVES A LITTLE IN SHAME, THEY HAVE SO EXPOSE THEMSELVES ON THIS INTERNET.


IT WILL BE HARD FOR ME TO EVER RESPECT A YORUBA MAN IN THIS WORLD AGAIN.

MIND YOU, I ONCE HELD THEM IN HIGH REGARD.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 1:21pm On May 14, 2020
Can you please explain how the backwardness of the Hausa-Fulanis are limiting the progress of the Igbos?



Nowenuse:
Igbos and others can still survive in Nigeria just that Hausa fulani backwardness will keep on limiting us and setting us backward.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 1:16pm On May 14, 2020
You seems to have this funny Messianic complex.

1) If Nigeria is going to disintegrate, it won't be into Nigeria and Biafra but into SEVERAL smaller countries.

2) You don't need to wait for any tribe because they fail to join Biafra.

3) The numerous tribes of the Niger-Delta can form a single countries if they like or multi countries.

4) The 'fear' of incoming Fulani Jihadists that you are using to blackmail these minority tribes into joining Biafran doesn't hold water.

These Niger-Delta Tribes have

*Fertile lands with large water bodies
*Access to the sea
*Crude oil
*Natural gas
* Aluminum Smelting Company, Ikot Abasi
*Aladja Steel
* Delta Steel Complex and above all
* Human Capital.

All they need to do is to sign an agreement with Vladimir Putin of Russia to take some barrels of crude oil free or manage the Steel /Aluminum complex for 3 years and supply their Army with the latest AK-47, APCs, Ground-to-Air Missiles, Helicopter Gunship and other deadly weapons.

Any Fulani Jihadists that set his feet on their territories will know that he is planning to commit suicide.


Can the Fulani Jihadists even withstand the Niger-Delta Militants?







Yujin:
Don't mind some ignorant Igbos here. When referendum comes, Biafra us certain. The referendum will only confirm the actual boundary of the new country. Agreements will be reached after everything is discussed. Those who reject Biafra will remain in Nigeria. IPOB will not be the one to fight for their own choice of country. We are fighting for Biafra and we expect some minority tribes that we included to reject Biafra at the referendum. We know where to wait for them. Their best bet is to start agitating for their own country NOW.
Some blind youths can talk shit at present but when they're faced with only two options, reality will become clearer to them.
It's easy to hate Igbo without having suffered any harm from them. The Jews have been hated similarly yet they continue to excel. Today, most first world countries respect Israel but small minded persons still engage in antisemitism. IPOB is aware of this. Whether in Delta, Bayelsa, Rivers, Akwa Ibom or Cross-river, we open our hands today for the coming referendum. Other tribes in the middlebelt are welcomed. Posterity will vindicate us.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 12:33pm On May 14, 2020
Your madness is like Z-World. . . It's extraordinary everyday.





Rodwave:
No foolish abobaku ritual killer is capable of intellectual discussion. I wouldn't waste my time engaging any ewedu monkey in one either. Abobaku monkeys are known for wickedness. Wicked people are intellectually handicapped just like yourself.

Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 12:29pm On May 14, 2020
Fulanis will now become foreigners and won't be allowed into their Countries.


Even Fulanis are victims of marginalization in other Countries.

Fulanis are being ridiculed, marginalized and killed in Central African Republic (CAR) which I strongly condemned because no Humanbeings deserved to be treated like that.





Fulanis are NOT more powerful than any other ethnic group. They are are only enjoying the protection of Federal Government of NIGIERIA.

Once there's no more Nigeria, Fulanis will run back to their domains.



Yujin:
Yet all of them will fall like a pack of cards when fulanis descend on them. We already permutated that hence we offer them the opportunity to survive. Whichever way, Igbos will survive. History is on our side. Do you agree with me?
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 11:49am On May 14, 2020
I like your arrangement.



However, let's assume that there are 3 wards within Edo State inhabited by Igbo clans (Igbankes) and they vote for Biafra but their surrounding neighbours will not partake in the referendum or if they do but vote against Biafra, will this Igbanke now exist as Biafran territory within Edo Kingdom/Niger-Delta Republic?





Dikebuka:
Who mentioned Edo again...
Their are Igbos in Edo state..

Igbos in part of Edo state are they once that will choose...not Benin or Esan
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 11:39am On May 14, 2020
Eastern Region was a creation of the British just like Nigeria was created by the British without consultations with the people.




Were the Ngwa, Ogoni, Efik, Nri, AroChukwus, Etche, Ibiobio consulted by the British Colonial Government if they will like to be in the same 'Eastern Region'?




Dikebuka:
I dont get the logic for these ignorance

Before the creation of States..was the east not an aggregate of all ethnic groups in the region..

What is wrong in referendum for same people that have existed even before Nigeria existed self..

I will like to know your ethnic group as I responded earlier. It will help us to understand ourselves
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 11:29am On May 14, 2020
It is either your parents didn't bring you up properly or you are just an untrainable kid that's why you easily reply with abuses and insults instead of intellectual responses which by your actions is obviously above your level of intelligence.


People like you need to be placed where they belong- in the gulag.




Rodwave:
Who be this abobaku monkey again? A fool think himself wise
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 11:25am On May 14, 2020
You are a well informed man on the subject matter.


pazienza:
Ideals rule the world I believe.

Biafra to me means strictly Igbo speaking Country comprising of entire SE and willing Igboid groups in SS and NC only.

How I intend to achieve it? This I believe is not supposed to be made a public knowledge if it must be efficient, but you get the feeling that having an established boundaries and map should be the first stage of freedom fight.
Its also not rocket science that you will need full political control of your region in Nigeria as the next step.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 10:25am On May 14, 2020
IPOB



omonnakoda:
Who is " THEY"?
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 10:24am On May 14, 2020
Your frustrations will NOT change the fact that Igbos benefit greatly from Nigeria.


Anambra, Abia, Enugu, Imo and Ebonyi States collect allocations from the Federal account every month but you guys will like to come online to accuse the Hausa-Fulanis and Yorubas as the only people benefiting from the crude oil sales.


People are wiser than you assume.



Rodwave:
Shut up. you and your people are demonic. You Yorubas are very wicked. Face your ewedu republic. Stop acting like you care about South South when all your plans have always been to corner everything to your lazy tribe alone. What have your demonic tribe done for the people of South South if not scheming to corner their wealth? You Yorubas have never wished them well so face your ritual killers republic.

You are patronising them now because you want them to join in your eternal hate against the Igbos.

After using Nigeria collective wealth to develop lagos, your foolish people are beating their chest on how your phantom ingenuity developed lagos.

You people are ingrates.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 10:09am On May 14, 2020
Bros, calm down.

I think you are replying to a wrong person because I never talked about States creation ,SNC, Zoning and/Federalism in my post.




UdechiHD:
Mr man focus your energy on your ethnic group. The same way Delta, Imo, Ogun etc was created is the same way they can be disbanded for more smaller states. In the last SNC there were recommendations for the merging of states based on certain determinants, signifying that zoning is unconstitutional.
The choice of zoning is to promote federalism, which as a system of government can be dissolved tomorrow for unitarian or confederacy, depending on the futuristic needs of the country.
The rubbish you wrote up there proves your intellectual shallowness.

Both you and Pazienza are nairaland champions. However, you as a person still don’t understand that in Nigeria today, allegiance to ethnicity far outweighs political boundaries. This is why a Buhari can appoint Fulani’s from the NW,NE and NC because his tribesmen comes first before others. And this is also why Buhari can appoint Igbos from Delta and Rivers states to represent the wider Igbos because he understands the ethnic makeup of Nigeria.

Such jargons as limitations of ethnic powers in states or zones is bullcrap. You cannot put a bullet in people’s head and force them to remain with you when the interest of their ethnicity is their major bond. This was a major reason for the agitation of states in the first place and Gowon acted on that purpose.

Again, the constitution of Nigeria can be change at anytime to reflect the wishes of the people but ethnicities are inseparable.

Take for example, Delta state of today. Before it’s creation they existed a Bendel and before that we had the Midwest etc. Same was applicable to the division of the South into west and east and also Nigeria into north and south by the colonial masters. The only constant among the delineation is ethnicity and whether Anioma state is created tomorrow it changes nothing.

Therefore before you jump into stating a poorly held opinion, first understand your constitution which is ethnicity conscious. There is no where the constitution mention where states is constant, because it can be dissolved at anytime.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 10:04am On May 14, 2020
Because they actually want a smaller version of Nigeria in which there will be no Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba, the two other major tribes that they consider their opponents/enemies.




omonnakoda:
Why not give Fulani right to choose if they want to be in Biafra?

Why those places that give you sea access and crude oil?
Politics › Re: Here Comes A Presidential Baby-sitter By Farooq Kperogi by oyatz(m): 7:50am On May 14, 2020
The late President Yar'Adua didn't have any Chief of Staff.


Karlifate:
One of the reasons why Abba Kyari was powerful is that GMB did not employ a PPS. OBJ, Umaru Musa Yar'adua & GEJ all has CoS & PPS.
The summary of the matter is that:
Weak President = Powerful CoS.
Powerful President = Weak CoS.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m):
Good analysis.



1) However was there ever a time that ,Ngwaland, the Aros, the people of Oyigbo, Etche, Aniocha, Oshimili, Ika, Ndokwa and Igbanke were together with NRI people as kingdom or Republic or Empire of Biafra?

2) Do you honestly think that the people of Edo State will sit down and will just be looking while Igbanke will be ceded to 'Biafra' ? Did Ojukwu's Biafra had ANY territories beyond the River Niger?

3) Have you reached agreement with the people and Government of Kogi, Benue and Cross River that you will conduct a referendum on parts of their lands which you desire to add to Biafra?


4) What is the universally acceptable and unambiguous definition of an Igbo person/Igbo lands?

5) In Summary: How do you define the borders of Biafria?

pazienza:
What's there to explain? Ancient Israel was neighbours to Egypt. And it remains so till today.
What was in the past was restored in the present.

So will Igboland true boundaries be one day restored. When we get a serious group ready to work for only Igbo freedom and emancipation alone and no other ethnic group own. Not the current confused lots.
Its a matter of time. This organization will arise.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 11:14am On May 13, 2020
Let's assume that the referendum is conducted in Delta State in 2020 and the result is ;


Yes to Biafra= 500,000

Niger-Delta Republic= 1,200,000.



We
Where will the State go to?






Yujin:
Lol. You can tell me to keep it in Igboland and you'll be right. Which SE? The one created by enemies of Igboland? Go and sit down.
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 10:49am On May 13, 2020
What exactly give you the impression that Nnamdi Kanu /IPOB have the MANDATE of the people of Delta State to call for referendum on their soil?

Are Kanu/IPOB the legitimate Representatives of the people of Delta State?

Is Nnamdi Kanu, the Governor of Delta State?

Is IPOB the same as the House of Assembly of Delta State?

Is IPOB one of the Socio-cultural organizations or the Council of Traditional Rulers of Delta State?

Was ANY part of Delta State ever part of Biafra from 1967-1970?







Nwanyiogwashi:
Mister no body is begging you to join, you are free to relocate back to osun state
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 10:32am On May 13, 2020
People like you are making the Biafran agitations very complicated because you only view things from your own prisms and like to come online to espouse these your views not only as the truth but as the ONLY truth.

Anybody that share contrary views from your views are labeled 'Afonja' because you have been programmed to see the Yoruba people as your problem.


The first question you need to ask yourselves is 'What is Biafra?'

a) The Old Eastern Region which didn't include Delta and Edo States.

b) The five States of the S/East.

c) All territories inhabited by Igbos whereever they found

d) The present SE/SS.



franchasng:
They know all these, they know, they just want to continue to use their Lagos-Ibadan wack media tactics of the 70s to gather more haters for Igbos as a way of stopping Igbos from leaving their doomed Nigeria.



No country can be declared in this modern era without a referendum for the people agitating for the freedom and secession to decide where they want to belong, they know or may not know.


So called Niger Delta can never be forced to join Biafra if they refuse to.


There must be a referendum for Igbo speaking communities wrongly carved into Niger Delta of today and Benue/Kogi to decide if they want to join their Igbo brothers in Biafra or remain with Niger Delta or Middlebelt.


That is the procedure for granting freedom under UN charter.


So all these Ijaw boys and Urhobo people following Yoruba haters to indirectly attack Igbos on Biafra cause, you guys lack wisdom, u should be supportint Igbos so that as they succeed in getting a referendum, Niger Delta will equally demand for their own referendum to secede as their own independent nation if that's their wish
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 6:24am On May 12, 2020
The problem with Kanu's method is that;

1) There is no recognized part of Nigieria called Biafra.
Scotland is a constituent of Britain with well defined borders, elected representative and administration but Biafa is nothing similar to this.

2) The Scottish nationalist parties and the Scotland parliament legally made the demand for referendum NOT just a random guy from Scotland like Nnamdi Kanu is just a random guy from Abia State.



Dikebuka:
To further clarify all this.. What Nnamdi Kanu is doing is plain demanding for a referendum.

Which simply means if you want to stay in Nigeria, you click yes or no.

Afterall the Jada people that wia in Cameroon voted to move to Nigeria..

Nobody will force you..when ita time to vote...you vote for Nigeria.

Afterall people in Scotland voted to remain with Britain
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 5:59am On May 12, 2020
Point of correction for the sake of incoming generation.


1) The Ikwerres, Ekepeyes,Etche etc were part of the Calabar-Ogoja-Rivers (COR) Movement of the 1950s. This polical group was agitating for the creation of a separate Region from the Old Eastern Region to represent the non-Igbo groups in the old Eastern Region.

2) The IKWERRES attended the Willinks Commision of 1958,set up by the departing Colonial Government to look into the fears of the Minorities ethnic group as Nigeria prepared for Independence.

3) The Ogbakwor Ikwerres declaration of 1963 defined Ikwerres as a distinct ethnic group.


All these evidence shows that these groups have been shouting that they are NOT Igbos long before the civil war... They only use the opportunity of the civil war to make a bold statement.





pazienza:
YorubaHero12



During this period in history. Hope you know that Ikwerre, Ogba, Ekpeye, Oyigbo, Ndoni, virtually all the most productive part of modern Rivers in terms of crude oil were still bona-fide members of Igbo Union and were not counted as minorities by the colonial government or Eastern region?

I am yet to get your point, because you are obviously making no point.





I don't know what you are talking about. The minorities region were quickly captured during the war, yet the OAU(Owerri, Aba Umuahia) part of Biafra held on for longer time. We were going to take Biafra without the minorities if it were offered at the end.
Minorities were part and parcel of Biafra from its beginning. Okoko Ndem, Rex Rawson, Effiong, Akpan, etc. It was always going to be hard for Ojukwu to just drop them overnight to prove to oil hungry Yorubas and North that he wasn't after their oil. I don't even understand how we can be having this argument.
Ojukwu had the opportunity to use Niger delta oil wells to negotiate for weapons and support with USSR but declined, because unlike those in Lagos who saw the place as a spoil to hunt in pack with anyone willing to assist them and share the spoils later. Ojukwu saw it as part of Biafra that must be protected from hawks.

As of Kanu adding Niger delta for crude oil and sea access. I don't know as I'm not Kanu, but I know he is claiming Igalaland too, and they are no where near the sea or have oil, likewise Igbanke in Edo.




The war was virtually Britain vs Biafra. I wouldn't take words coming from Britain papers serious. They would say and write anything to demonize Biafra. Biafra army had many minorities as part of it. How could they kill minorities?
Even in Igbo land, saboteurs and their families were usually targeted. Ifeajuna family were almost wiped off in Onitsha, their house were burnt and they were persecuted, in fact it got to a point that almost all Onitsha persons were seen as Sabos by everyone in Biafra. This was the state of things in Igboland. All over the world, traitors were never treated with kid gloves in war period, because many are usually in pains. What ever happened to traitors in minorities area, happened to those in Igboland. But I guess ignoring those in Igboland while magnifying those in Minorities area is an easier way of promoting the propaganda of Igbos forcing Minorities Into Biafra that Awolowo, Enahoro and Ayida were running, rather than taking the harder option of UN supervised plebiscite Ojukwu and Effiong were proposing to put the propaganda to test, right?




I am sure you will be back. Anything to keep Nigeria united so that you can exploit all, eh?
Politics › Re: South East Should Stop Disrespecting The Niger Delta by oyatz(m): 5:50am On May 12, 2020
Your last sentence show how you guys arrogate so much powers to yourself with a messiahnic complex.

1) IF Nigeria agree to insert secession clause in the constition, the secession will not be for only Igbo States but for ANY State that want to leave the Federal Republic of Nigieria.

2) Referendum for Biafra can not be approved in the ways you guys talk because there is no constituent part of Nigeria called Biafra.

Igbos States can unite after secession and call themselves Biafra or whatever name they like.


3) ANY State that want to secceed will then follow the laid down procedures e.g two-third majority vote in their Houses of Assembly ,approved by two-third majority of the National Assembly etc.


Yujin:
Igbos recognize all the nations in Southern Nigeria. What we don't recognize is the boundaries created by an enemy shortly before the Biafran war. We include majority of the ethnic groups around us that we feel share cultural beliefs with us. It's left for them to reject it at the referendum. At present, non of them is agitating for a country so you don't expect us to tell UN to include another country on the ballot. If any group or tribe wants a country, they can start agitating now to be recognized. Then, they can be put on the ballot. It's not IPOB job to do that for you. As a matter of fact, we expect a couple of tribes to vote to remain in Nigeria. It's their fundamental human right just like it will be ours to reject them when they'll flee the death that will brought upon them after our departure.

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