₦airaland Forum

But if the Speaker had appointed you instead ,you won't be posting this.
















Just say the truth and put the Devil to shame!

mamajj17:
I tell you my dear, they never give the CHANCE to someone from a poor Background Useless Leaders

It's
#CATCH and not cash















Your obsession and fixation with 'Yoruba Muslims' is beginning to affect your rationality.

ChristianNorth:
This is savage.

If yoruba Moslems like Oyatz, Buhariguy, omenka, metaphysical cash you insulting their lords and personal saviours, you will be in a soup. Better retract before they arrive here or still, wear your armour.

You are changing the context to suit your bigoted fantasy.
In every religion, organization or ethnic groups, there are extremists.
There are Christians who will not like to rent their houses to Muslims or people outside their tribes.
This is however very minimal in Yorubaland because of the evolution of the imported religions in this part of the Country and the Yoruba worldviews which favour multiplicity over Monopoly.

In most Yoruba Towns, it's fairly common to see members of the same family practicing different religions. Most Yoruba extended families are multireligious

ChristianNorth:
A Yoruba Christian once told me that her father warned her never to marry a Yoruba Moslem.

Oyatz, a Yoruba Christian once told us how he was refused renting an apartment owned by a Yoruba Moslem.

He told us that the landlord only rent out property to Moslems.

Egbe omo oduduwa once wrote an open letter to Yoruba Moslems asking them to take a stand on either their Islamic religion or Yoruba heritage.

You are changing the narrative sir.

selemempe:
i am telling u that we have aluminium and steel enough to make cars...why u argue this is beyond me.

Consider these stats.

1. South korea doesnt have iron ore or metal
2. South Africa has iron ore

But

1. South korea makes 4 million cars annually
2. South Africa makes 600k cars annually

However
1. Nigeria makes 16k metric tons of cement yearly
2. South africa makes 11k

But in 1996
1. Nigeria made just 3k metric tonnes of cement
2. South Africa made 7k

Why do u think that we now surpass SA in cement?
We have the comparative advantage to surpass them in cars too...but a fulani man wont do that if it would benefit an igbo man first

The Federal Government under Buhari is the single largest buyer of Innoson vehicles.

For Innoson to compete very well, he needs to look beyond Government patronage and start

1) Targeting the ordinary citizens
2) Encourage other investors to invest in the company. This will bring in more fund for expansion and more importantly more human resources to compete with the older brands. Most giant manufacturing companies aren't owned and managed by one man but are usually Publicly qouted companies.
Let him list Innoson on the Stock exchange (Johanesburg Stock Exchange)

effoi:
There may be no need to ban tokunbo. However government can implement a deliberate policy of instructing all government agencies and parastatals to only purchase made in Nigerian cars. That ways Innoson and other local assembly plants will be encouraged. These guys are creating jobs and paying taxes to government afterall. Most countries in sub- Saharan africa are taking Innoson more serious than FGN. These countries are sending delegations to Nigeria to see for themselves, order vehicles and also attempt to lure him over to their end

Obviously you dont know much about Basic Chemistry, let alone Industrial Chemistry.

Let me explain some terminologies to you.

1) Aluminium (Al) is a type of metal, specifically, it's apost transition metal with an Atomic number of 13 on period-3 in the Periodic Table of Elements.

2) An alloy is a mixture of two or more metals and the commonest example of an alloy is Steel. Brass and Bronze are other examples of Alloys.

3) Steel is an alloy of Iron, Carbon and one or more other metals.
When the other metals are chromium and Tin, you can have Stainless Steel and when the other metal is mainly zinc, the product becomes galvanized steel.

4) Carbon Steel is a type of Steel in which the Carbon content is around 2%. In most conventional steel, the carbon content is usually between 0=5-1=5%.
With increasing Carbon content, the steel will become less ductile.


Metals make up about two-thirds of the weight of vehicles.
You can't talk of automobile manufacturing without talking of Metal industries.

selemempe:
no. U are the one who knows little or nothing about wat u are talking about



Typically the material used to construct vehicle chassis and frames is carbon steel; or aluminum alloys to achieve a more light-weight construction. In the case of a separate chassis, the frame is made up of structural elements called the rails or beams.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vehicle_frame

Why didn't the Bible talk about Neanderthals?
Do they exist before Adam?

You are free to believe what suit your fancy (including comparing building of houses with buying cars in a country like Nigeria!)




However, when I read your first statement that
'Aluminum and not metals is used to build cars' I knew I had to stop this discussion with you because it shows your knowledge of the subject matter is quite shallow.

selemempe:
1st of all, aluminium not metal is used to make cars.

2ndly nigeria has the comparative advantage for auto industry simply because of our market. South Africa dont have the market nor alumium but they are the giants of auto in africa. Most toyota cars in nigeria were made in SA.

Dont blame igbo importers...they are products of the nigerian system too.

Car loans given by banks to purchase the final product is not a form of subsidy at all...who ever told u that loans are subsidies? The loans will have the dual purpose of making banks more profitable and making auto makers bigger. Both industry grows.

The only people that lose at the end of the day would be u.s and germany were majority of used cars come from.

New cars would still be imported and poor can still buy made in nigeria used cars.

It was in 1984 that nigerians started buying used cars abroad anyhow....the trend can still be reversed but someone is afraid that innosson will be the biggest beneficiary. If dangote starts making cars now, u will see that everything i wrote here can be implemented.

Ps there are more new houses built in nigeria in the last 10yrs than new cars bought by nigerians. Most nigerians will put up 25 million to build a house and then buy a 3 million used toyota car...why?

Theoretically ,the same policy will give the same result but in reality,it won't.

Try to find out the factors needed to manufacture vehicles and cement, then find out the ones readily available here.

The steel and metal industries as well as electricity will determine how well we can compete in the auto industry.

In economic terms, Nigeria of 2019 don't have the comperative and competitive advantages in automobile industry,it is not about the Government or the people of Nigeria hating Innoson or the Igbos.
More than 98% of the Igbo car owners don't buy Innoson cars but Toyota, Honda, Nissan etc.
Why do you think Igbo car importers don't just go to Innoson to buy cars instead of going to import Tokunbo cars in far away US, Europe or Asia?
Do they also hate Innoson?

Even if banks give car loans of #3million, it won't still help the industry (subsidizing consumption instead of subsidizing the production).

Apart from these, the economic factors differ alot.
The unit cost of the auto products is very different from the cement industry.
Even, a 25 year old NYSC member can buy 2 bags of cement (#2400*2= #4800) to renovate his Corper's lodge but not so with cars.

selemempe:
then start giving car loans na. How do u think countries develope?
Let me paint a scenerio for u so u knw hw shallow u sounded.

Cement used to be imported in nigeria and used to be very costly until obj and dangote changed the game. Even ibeto was importing cement...but now he makes his own. The cement industry now employs millions of nigerians and is a major nigerian export.

On the auto industry...if nigeria was not biased and insincere, the same policy will gv the same results. Think of a situation were u cant import used cars into nigeria anymore. Banks will gv good car loans to working class ppl...innosson will employ more nigerians and then big names like coscharis, PAN, kia and volkwagen will enter the industry too..milliins of nigerians would be employed and price of new cars crashed....

Common sense...but nigeria lack it.

The same thing can be done in all our industries too...but that is story for another day sha

What's the rationale and economic sense for this?

How many Nigerians can afford even the made-in-Nigeria cars at #3 million?

Instead,we can start by banning tokunboh cars older than 5years.
Increase local production of automobiles over a 5-10 year period.

selemempe:
let them ban importation of cars too

Bros stop this childish whining.

It's unnecessary to be comparing Innoson with Dangote.

Importation of cement was banned in favour of local production by Ibeto, Dangote, BUA and West African Larfarge(Ewekoro), so what do you mean by Dangote's Monopoly?

effoi:
They may be enjoying a little patronage now that they have become a brand the government can't ignore. You can't compare the support given to Innoson to that of Dangote. Cement importation was banned to give Dangote a near cement monopoly. Next year importation of petrol and petrochemicals will also be banned

Lagos State was created in 1967 as a merger of parts of Western Region +the old Federal Capital territory.

The Old Federal territory which was solely for Administration was limited to Lagos Island, LML, Apapa, Eti-Osa and parts of Surulere LGAs.

The other 15LGAs(e.g Ikeja, Shomolu, Ajeromi-Ifelodun,Agege, Badagary, Epe, Oshodi etc) out of 20 Local Government Areas where parts of Western Region.

Awolowo/Akintola built Ikeja Industrial Estate.

selemempe:
lol...we do u guys lie boldly? During the regional era the east was Africa's fastest growing economy.

We were the largest exporter of palm products in the world.

In industry, the coal mines of Enugu managed by the Nigerian Coal Corporation and Nigersteel's rolling mill which used steel scraps to produce mild steel bars were one of the few coal mines and steel plants in operation in West Africa in 1963. During the NCNC led government, a cement factory was established at Nkalagu, Nigerian Breweries chose a stout factory at Aba, a Tobacco and glass making plant was located at Port Harcourt. Oil mining in the region started by Shell D' Archy in 1937 did not yield commercial quantities until 1957. But by 1965, oil was a promising source of income.
In commerce, the port in ph was the 2nd largest import and export port in Nigeria after Apapa. Mind u, lagos was not western region then.

We did best than any other region...google eastern region bro

Where do you get this false rant that Innoson doesn't enjoy Government support?

The Governments, especially the Federal Government under President Buhari is the single largest buyer of Innoson vehicles.

effoi:
I am not igbo my dear but I visit Igbo land regularly and see things for myself. Take a trip to INNOSON Car manufacturing plant one day and you will be shocked at how a man without government support can be determined to build a local car manufacturing franchise.

Igbos are in every State utilizing their enterpreneural talents. How else do they need to be given chance.

effoi:
I never said that. I am only advocating that perhaps if they are given a chance could bring their entrepreneurial and can do acumen to rescue our dear country.

If the takented Igbos as you prescribed used their talents for the betterment of Igboland, then a significant part of Nigeria will become better.

horsepower101:
Any Igbo person that sacrifices their talent to save Nigeria from economic woes is a fool. Let us all die here.

The same people you sacrifice to save will continue to hate and despise you. The same people will swear with their lives that you will never rule them. The same people will cheer at your killings. The same people will cheer at any backwards policy that disproportionately affects igbo business.

Any and Every Talented Igbo person should apply their talents towards bettering Igboland and the lives of Igbo people.

DSS, NPF and NIA need to urgently investigate this guy.

francis5051:
Why will Bois start launching attack on dis efcc guys I think if some of dis efcc are killed dia rate of disturbance will reduce

Hmnn... guilty conscience!




















The wicked run even when no one pursues him.

adeolakemi:
im from benin republic not yoruba

But your own moniker and comments give you out as what?

adeolakemi:
only the way you reason has given you away as afonja ...i have never seen any good comment about biafra from you even if you hate kanu . no igbo man hates biafra no matter but you afonja pretending to be igbo goodness me you are something else

Since 1960, no KareKare, Ngizm, Jukun or Efik man has been President, Vice president, Senate President, Speaker or Minister of Defence

vanunu:
To show that the Nigerian state hate Igbos, no Igbo man has held the post of minister of works since 1970.

But you too don do premarital sex before nau.

donstan18:
Decided to knot with his pregnant fiancee.

I'm sure they've been having premarital sex in front of some Patients in the hospital they worked together.

Mr Seun, firstly I will like commend you for nurturing Nairaland to this stage.

However, the number-1 factor mitigating against the growth and maturity of Nairaland is unchecked evil TRIBALISM especially the Yoruba (Afonja) Vs Igbo (Igbo) threads.

These nauseating threads have taken over the forum and most well educated Nigerians have left Nairaland for the silly badly educated tribal bigots that post nonsensical threads everyday on this forum.

Seun:
Please post links to the home page threads that should not have made the home page. I will personally investigate them and figure out what needs to change.

I’m waiting for the links, please.

This post got me laughing hysterically.

ossaisly:
It is not even easy to be broke, hence it will make you to be humble unnecessarily

If I say




'Na Dem'

Does it have anything to do with Biafra or what's brings Biafra into this issue?

ideynl1:
Yoruba Muslim. Is Ozekhome an Edoman Biafra?

Have you suddenly agreed that Edo is part of Biafra?

I don't know what you are talking about and I don't defend anybody.

ChristianNorth:
That is a nice policy. If you are withdrawing cash, you will be charged 5% processing fee and if you are depositing over 3M into a corporate account, you will be charged N90,000.

This will force many to adopt the cashless policy.

But from the same next year, all online transactions including transfers would be taxed separately + additional charges from the new VAT regime.

You are discouraging cash movement at right hand side and encouraging cash payment at the left hand side with two strong policies.

Buhari is dead brain.

No apologies. I have never seen someone so confused and clueless.

Cc:
Omenka
Sarrki
Mannabbqgrill
Buhariguy
Oyatz
GenBuhari
Gworotango
Ngeneukwenu
Mynd44

Come and defend the dead wood.

But MelesZenawi himself is a proud Igboman and a well known hater of the Yorubas.

selemempe:
because he is an igbo hater. His sole aim in this nairaland is to sow discord within the igbo camp.

I think you should be happy about that.
Don't you want to leave the Zoo again?

orisa37:
In all of this Kanu's Venture, if Nigeria breaks, it will be Buhari's & APC's Undoings.

He is an Alimi man from Ilorin and NOT a descendant of Afonja.

Judolisco:
afonja man from Ilorin

No, he is not.

kaorama:
Is he an Igbo man?

Ojukwu should have sought alliance with the oppressed peoples of the North- the Middle Belt and offered them Independence with friendly relationship with Biafra and thereafter proceed to attack and conquer Kaduna.
He should also seek similar alliance with the leaders of the Mid-west and Western Regions in ways that will make all other regions allies of Biafra while working out their own secession.

If three regions I Nigeria support and/embark on seccession simultaneously, there is no way the country can stand.

SamNaijaboy:
The Igbo man unlike the African American was served just deserts for being supremacist towards other tribes. They just met their match with the Fulani who had similar expansionist culture.
The Yoruba were caught in between.
If Ojukwu had attacked Kaduna, the northerners would have made a beeline back to the North and that would have helped the Yoruba take control of Lagos and aided the disintegration

By 100 years after the civil war, the narrative would have changed to

















Biafra actually defeated Nigeria during the civil war but the Internal Community begged Biafra to have mercy on Nigeria by not seceeding.

Conner44:
Nigeria beats it’s chest for subduing Biafra in the past civil war. A war where everyone else in the country was against just a section of it.

When an army of over 300 tribes (with continuous external aid) attacked just highest 10 other tribes waging a war that lasted for years. Then after using starvation they are happy there was a surrender.

That scenario is like David and Goliath fight but this time Goliath won ... how? By begging his soldiers to surround and box tiny David into a corner knowing fully well that he couldn’t defeat tiny David all by himself.

Cowards.

Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet for neither flesh nor blood revealed this to you but only the gods can do this.

Kagarko:
Very Intelligent Politician.

Buying time and tactically gathering His disciples close and chained against 2023.

Because APC is tactically dying with PMB if a Southerner make the ticket.

Northerners will massively support Atiku