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If you were truly informed you would have known that Trump did not pick those 7 countries by himself. In fact, outside of syria refugees, he did not mention any of those countries in his executive order. How then did the islamic ban rhetoric came up? The media.

The media is refusing to tell you that ALL of those 7 majorly-moslem countries were placed under strict security watch under OBAMA.

Trump's order merely stated that immigration should be temporarily suspended from all Obama's ALREADY CLASSIFIED high threat countries until the security threat is fully analyzed by the new government.

THAT WAS THE MOST PATRIOTIC AND AMERICAN THING to do. But the bunch of traitors and the "new opposition party" (falsely called the mainstream media or CNN) would rather hide the truth from the public and feed the ignoramuses with pure lies.

Nonetheless, the ttrue Americans are learning fast. They are now dumping the traditional media for new media. For example, just go to Trump's personal Twitter handle and watch how the followership is litterally growing by the seconds.

efilefun:
You banning people from coming to your country yet you still drone bombing and shooting innocent civilians in those countries. Tell me how else to build hatred in human Lots of Widows and Orphans are being created everyday.

http://www.alternet.org/grayzone-project/nawar-anwar-al-awlaki-killed-us-trump-raid-yemen-civilians



Don't be deceived by any "America First" Bull shiii. All the countries whose citizens made up the 9/11 hijack aint on that list, guess why Trump got businesses in those countries and he aint ready to lose a dime and you here telling me America First lol wake up man

You actually have issues with basic comprehension.

1. $108 was not the average oil price during GEJ's era. You are still lying.
https://www.nairaland.com/2794237/which-nigerian-president-drank-most

2. Of course the hawks we now call APC did spearhead the excess funds sharing fight, you just did not know it. And yes, the narrative is about APC and PDP. Only hypocricy make you deny it.

3. The word "sell" is an active verb in present continous suggestive tense. I used it even though GEJ is no longer in power. So go back and reread my post slowly.

4. Of course all my assertions and facts are super relevant to the topic of the thread. You are the one who lost focus and forgot what the thread was about.

5. The only place there seem to be negation is in your imagination.

6. Of course poor comprehension has led you to delussion.

Sibrah:
Stop talking like a kid. The APC vs PDP tone you are sounding is making you look like one.
1) I used the average figure of $108 for GEJ tenure.
2) APC didn't sparehead sharing of excess funds. All the governors supported it.
3) Oil didn't sell for $25pb during GEJ's time. Lowest was 40-something.
4) You are stating irrelevant facts.
5) Your irrelevant facts negate some of your arguement.
6) Your last paragraph prove age is just a number.

First, it's a BIG FAT lie to suggest that GEJ earned extra $58pb throughout his 5yrs of presidency.

Second, GEJ institutionalized the saving culture at national level - but the bunch of hawks (which we we now call APC) used our bogus constitution against the national saving scheme and went to the supreme court to force the fed to share excess earnings rather than saving it.

Third, sell oil at $25pb but with GEJ's team ensuring peace in critical economic hubs, ensuring there was no losss of pipelines, no losss of foreign direct investments, no formulation of dumb monetary and fiscal policies. I would assure you that the GDP and the ease of doing business will remain positive (even during slow periods and at times of downward trends).

Mind you, oil sector did not contribute up to 18% to GDP growth during GEJ era. And recession means three consecutive negative quarterly contration of the GDP in a year. So the then dwindling oil prices would not have driven the country into recession if GEJ and his team were still incharge. GEJ's team simply did not allow oil to drive the GDP growth. They decently had the economy diversified and majorly driven by the services sector. And this was why the system was too complex for the anti-capital and socialistic APC to grasp let alone manage.

Sibrah:
Stop typing long epistles . . . Even with $58pb extra earning the economy was already on a declind. Our system of regulating stable dollar rate was largely dependent on govt's ability to supple most of the dollar demand at a fair rate and this was influenced by petrodollar earning as oil price crash meant inadequate dollar supply. Demand and supply law kicked in and we saw a increase in price of a scarce item - Dollar.

In a nutshell, three policy blunders destroyed the economy of the nation. And PMB was DIRECTLY responsible for all the three blunders. And, nope, the drop in oil price was not part of it.

1. Failing to unite the country; and provoking the Niger Delta uneccessarily

PMB, without any due consultations, terminated the survilence contract that had been handled by ND youths for years now. (By the way I heard that he had reawarded the contract to a notherner). As if that was not enough he cut down the budget for the armnesty programe and threatened to terminate the program altogether.

Of course this was after dividing the country into 97% and 5%. Mind you, sane people from around the world (and even here on NL) warned the govenment about its economic suscide mission. But they were too sturbborn and arrogant to listen to the voice of wisdom.

In fact they actually bombed ND with impunity, forgeting that there can never be prosperity where there is no peace. By the time the ND youths were done avenging whatever, the oil production had been virtually grounded. The country's major source of forex had just crumbled. And that was for several months.


2. Instigating massive capital flight and demolishing investors' confidence

Trump had 90% of his team up prior to his inaugration. But PMB took nearly six monrhs (AFTER his inaugration) to setup what can be termed Nigeria's worst cabinet since 1999. He even called them "noise makers" before their assembly. This delay in setting up the country's executive team made foreig direct investors to start looking elsewhere.

And by the time the presidency started demonizing and threathening everyone, the foreign investors started flying away in droves.Now add this to the fact that up till now this government does not have a seasoned economic team nor direction. This shows why official inflation rate got shoot up by more than 100% in a little over 1 year. (You certainly do not want to hear the unofficial rate).

3. Erratic approach to foreign exchange terms and other related policies.

First the govt. woke up one morning and decided that folks could no longer withdraw or deposite forex over the counter, thereby creating massive panic, confusion and more erossion of investor confidence. In fact many companies were blocked from accessing their funds in forex. But the govt. suddenly reversed this policy after creating nedless confusion. Talk of trial and error.

Later the case of needful devaluation (or free floating) of the Naira came up. But the presidency vowed that it would never happen thereby sending the remaining investors away.

Of course the govt. later shifted their position (after doing the damage) and claimed that they had adopted a free float system. But guess what? It's all a lie. Naira is still being pegged, though no longer at N199. However the investors are not fooled. So they are still not here.

Plus, when the import dependent economy could no longer be fueled with the scarce forex, the cost of production soared and so did the inflation, thereby crippling the production and GDP generally. Yet, all the while, interest rates remained high and wages were either slashed or owed.

And, mind you, while most manufacturers and importers could not access forex at reasonable rates and were therefore closing down their shops, some religious and connected folks were getting the stuff from the govt. at some obscene and insanely subsidized rates.

That's how we got here in a nutshell.

In conclusion...

Of course there is no way the previous govetnment (of seasoned technocrats) could have made any of the above three mistakes. And mind you those three mistakes are not actually distinct from each other. One simply led to the other until they translated to the vicious circle they are now. Unfortunately folks like you keep taking the night for the day.

Diamby:
People who criticize the present administration for the economic recession we are should tell us what the ousted government of GEJ would have done differently to halt the recession. We all know that i was the sharp drop in oil prices and lack of savings that threw us into this recession.Does jonathan have the powers to regulate international oil price? Nigeria is largely dependent on its earnings from crude oil for survival as such the oil prices affected our dollar earnings thereby causing the devaluation of the naira.I also ask what has previous administration done about diversifying the economy,building new refineries or revamping the old ones.power sector reforms as i know was a mess as most of the power infrastructure were handed over to those who have no capacity to manage them hence the eratic power supply we have now. The present govt might have its own issues about sound economic policies but i must say no foundation was built for the present government to build on so its like nigerian is just been nutured from the begining. Guys feel free to critise and add your own comments on how we found ourselves where we are today.Nigeria problem is structural.

Unforyunately there's a huge difference between your fancy imaginations and plain reality.

So, wake up.

The dream is over.

Protests are now the new reality.

No more dumb sermonizations.

Kid, go and look for your mates.

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akintom:
now the behavior of a typical meddlesome. You raised an issue that you can't substantiate or defend, yet you turn indecent in manners.

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If you don't know those already, then you should delete your original post and go back to sane reading.

akintom:
It's ok.
Could you then grace this page the specific policy reversals, and how it negativized the economy?

2.5 million protested the INAUGRATION of Trump - due to his rhetorics ONLY.

Now, some educated half-brained fools in nigeria are bullying 2face for daring to question the slumbering mediocres in govt. who bombed scores of IDPs by "mistake", reversed vital economic policies SEVERALLY in 1 year, and are known by any sane person to be clueless and grossly insensitive.

Truly, only the 21st century illiterates question/ridicule the audacity and correctness of 2face led nationwide protest at this time.

akintom:
The ability to analyze and understand the indices, that defines good political economy in process, requires above average formal education.

Anyone who is a failure by choice, will see government policy that demand him to take personal responsibility for his life, as bad policy.


Can you put the "wood" in measurable context? and let's analyze it one after the other.

Spot On.

A terribly confused mamal.

TonyeBarcanista:
OP that wasn't a protest, it was an APC rally. The rally was about APC being the saviour and not about Jonathan.

Beside, it was held during a period to prepare the party for 2015 general election.

Please, do know the distinction between a rally and a protest.


BTW: Let everyone exercise his/her right. Those that wish to protest should go ahead. Those that wish to attend the pro-Buhari solidarity rally should proceed. Those of us that are doing "siddon look" should be allowed space. Let every man do what is right in his own eyes.

This is PEACEFUL march. NOT a riot. Get it in, pls.

kalindaminda:
This was immediately the first thing I thought of

What if people don't have any green clothes? Is he expecting people to go shopping for a protest?

This is thoughtless

The code for the last anti-Trump women's match in washinting was PINK and "pussy-hat".

MaziOmenuko:
Stay there...the next update will be list of comedians to perform and a beauty contest to sum it up.

Empty barrel. How about calling for your own protest? Cynical enemies of the people.


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MaziOmenuko:
You see my concern with this charade? It lacks vision, mission and goal! Sounds more like a Lagos edition of Calabar Christmas Carnival. There is no proper communication, no sensitization, lack of zeal, anonymous interest from unknown groups; it just doesn't seem right.

By now there should have been a clear road-map, renown groups and people would be enlisted (not just 2phase and some internet/social-media solidarity tweets), we still don't know how many days the carnival protest would be, we are just hearing the uniform is something green. I am sure we will be getting more tweets hours to the protest on which routes to follow, were to go etc.

I don't think 2phase even has the capacity to lead a nationwide protest! Yes, the reason for protest could be justified, but yet again, if there is no clear-cut objective/plan, you are presenting yourself as a likely shooting practice for the police.

I wont be surprised the likes of Fayose and FFK will be there to hijack the rally from 2phase. Why? 2phase lacks the charisma to lead a nationwide protest.

We need to demand for a responsible govt; we the youths need to take this country out from the hands of these present class of people. We should be discussing about forming a megaparty for the youths, set an age bracket in our party constitution and team up to take back our country before these old men sabotage our future.

#enoughsaid#

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Ignoramus lying like imph. The protest was ongoing BEFORE, DURING, AND AFTER INAUGRATION. In fact there were anti-Trump protests before he even won the presidency.

So if you could get this simple fact twisted, it means your entire writeup is one huge load of stinking poo that needs to get flushed down the latrine.

Ignoramuses posing like opinion leads.

Nonsense.

cc. baridamben

When you talk about the ongoing protest in America, everybody knows it is about immigration policies. If the government reverse that policy then everyone would also know that the protest has succeeded.

What stops you from calling your own PERFECT protest on March 1, 2017, since you think you had a better idea?

Armchair critict with empty clout and morale.

So it is too hard for you to condemn the murder of an innocent boy?

Is there any part of this country's constitution that says it is illegal to rally for Trump?

May your own son not be murdered on his 20th birthday.

May people not blame you and your family when the govt. murder your children illegally.

What you sow is what you reap.

Tazmode:
Sad, I still don't understand why they rallied behind Trump.

Perhaps to get assistance in achieving their desire to secede

I'm not sure yours is a human monica.

But even if nobody is a robot, I just want you to know that you nailed it here 102%.

Those who fail to get your drift are those who get confused as per why Igbos seem to oppose APC and PMB.

It's all in the collective ideoogy.

so are Ngige and Rochas Okorocha who are APC members the only South Easterners who qualify as National politicians in your view?

also it was not I who insinuated that Ojukwu only became Nigerian when he joined a political party that does not have its roots in East.

Sorry Sir but it is possible to be Nationalistic and be an APGA leader because the last time I checked South East is a geopolitical zone in Nigeria. While I agree that APGA people have not crafted the narrative of their argument in a civilized way that captures the aspirations of Ndigbo in a language that people from other regions can relate to; I reject the notion that it is un-Nigerian to be in APGA.

Ndigbo are Republican and Capitalist by Nature. The tax and spend welfare state practiced by Fashola and APC will always be alien to people in the South East. But then the Capitalist and the Welfarist can both co-exist as Nigerians.

Republicans and Democrats are all Americans. Igbos do not have to change their preferred political inclinations and join APC before they can be Nationalists or Nigerians!

Every sensible person knows this already.

You just showed how childish you are. Thought I was reading a grown up.

PStacks:
Trump has only created deep divisions in America..

His White house chief press secretary lied to the press on his first day on the job about something as trivial as inaugural crowd..


placing ban on 7 Islamic nations in my opinion is the lowest low America can ever descend.

i dont want Nigeria taking a leap from this trumps administration.

trump and apostle suleman are toeing the same part that wont augur well in the long term

Guess Tuface is trying to measure the rate of attention/engagement his fans give to the proposed protest after the massive antagonism from the enemies of Nigeria.

auntysimbiat:
PROTEST: Tuface 2BABA Tells Everyone To Meet Him Up Online By 3pm For An Important Message

[img]http://3.bp..com/-cxL_OX921H8/WJBqMRm_5RI/AAAAAAAC_8o/0mP-0xdITt0DsspQW5EvlGCzwA1l4LCqwCLcB/s1600/tu.png[/img]


A look at his tweet tells that he might just have an ordinary message to pass, but when we got to his instagram page, it was a video and the respected singer looks far from happy. His voice said it all. He sounded too deep, we have never heard him like that before and it shows that, what he is about to say by 3pm is sure a serious matter.

Recall that the singer has proposed he will stage a national protest on the 5th of February and few artistes and so many Nigerians have said they are behind him, but many were also fast to condemn him with some even saying the protest will be financed by a former Governor who is anti-buhari. It has just being messy ever since he made the announcement. But, then, what is Tubaba about to say by 3:00pm? Oh dear! The video below...



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQ-Mg5o1pIw

It bothers me that the mainstream media are bent on damaging America's political reputation by peddling lies, fear and raw hate. In doing this, they hide and under-report one of the most noble and patriotic calls-to-action (to the unity of all Americans) that ever emerged from the lips of a sitting POTUS.

'When You Open Your Heart to Patriotism, There Is No Room for Prejudice' - President Trump

I think Trump was right when he described the media as America's new "opposition party".

Just immagine what would have been acheived in the US in terms of peace and harmorny if the media had taken up this noble quote and amplified it with vigour and sheer patriotism.

What would have happened if the media had channeled their energy to persuading the immigrants to remain patriotic (against all odds) rather than ridiculing their own government in solidarity with people that hate America and what it stands for?

Here's an olive branch from Trump which the mefia had grossly tramped on, mocked, and seriously hid from the immigrants.

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My brother, the country is a text book case study of a modern extractive and exclusive political and economic system. Nothing for the general masses - they are all there to be exploited by the system. Only few manage to break loose from the oppression and that's by there own sheer dogededness as opposed to any leverage from the system. I'm a first hand example. The Nigerian system is designed to oppress the weak.

LordAdam:
Everyone on this thread, every Nairalander, please join me to lay hands on this person!

Oga I doubt you have an International certificate, because you lack comprehension skills. In fact, how u tk pass jamb?

The question is:

What are you benefiting as a Nigerian citizen?

And you're talking SH*T (no offense).

@OP, there is NO benefit to being a Nigerian citizen.

Becoming a Nigerian citizen is an everlasting burden no one deserves but we have to carry because we were UNFORTUNATE to be born in this country.

Anyone with a contrary view can quote me, let me analyze your worthless life and that of this VERY STUP*D country.

-Lord